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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The reveal that Celestia [[spoiler:actually does fund anti-slavery movements and cells on top of playing the LongGame waiting for the right time to assassinate Prime Minister Surachi]] comes off as this after the overwhelmingly negative response to her handling of the issues listed under UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The horrible ways some pony slave owners are shown to treat their slaves and Celestia's gross incompetence has caused a lot of readers to either give up on the story altogether, or just continue reading in the hopes of Celestia and all of ponykind getting a real punishment for their actions. Some readers even expressed a desire for the Equestrians to be enslaved as a form of LaserGuidedKarma.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: If the whole enslavement situation came about because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs around in Equus? Griffons are the mythological arch-enemy of horses and chapter 15 states they are [[ForeverWar locked in a ceaseless state of on-again-off-again warfare]]. The horrible ways some pony slave owners Diamond Dogs are shown to treat their slaves and Celestia's gross incompetence has caused a lot of readers to either give up on the story altogether, or just continue reading in the hopes of Celestia and all of ponykind getting a real punishment for their actions. Some readers even expressed a desire for the Equestrians in-canon to be enslaved as a form of LaserGuidedKarma.[[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]].
** For that matter, why haven't the windigoes shown up to feed off the humans' misery/hatred?



* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: If the whole enslavement situation came about because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs around in Equus? Griffons are the mythological arch-enemy of horses; and chapter 15 states they are [[ForeverWar locked in a ceaseless state of on-again-off-again warfare]]. The Diamond Dogs are shown in-canon to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]].
** For that matter, why haven't the windigoes shown up to feed off the humans' misery/hatred?

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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: If the whole enslavement situation came about because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs around in Equus? Griffons are the mythological arch-enemy of horses; and chapter 15 states they are [[ForeverWar locked in a ceaseless state of on-again-off-again warfare]]. TooBleakStoppedCaring: The Diamond Dogs horrible ways some pony slave owners are shown in-canon to treat their slaves and Celestia's gross incompetence has caused a lot of readers to either give up on the story altogether, or just continue reading in the hopes of Celestia and all of ponykind getting a real punishment for their actions. Some readers even expressed a desire for the Equestrians to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]].
** For that matter, why haven't the windigoes shown up to feed off the humans' misery/hatred?
enslaved as a form of LaserGuidedKarma.
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* WoobieSpecies: Humanity as a whole has become this.

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* WoobieSpecies: Humanity as a whole has become this.this.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The reveal that Celestia [[spoiler:actually does fund anti-slavery movements and cells]] comes off as this after the overwhelmingly negative response to her handling of the issues listed under UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The reveal that Celestia [[spoiler:actually does fund anti-slavery movements and cells]] cells on top of playing the LongGame waiting for the right time to assassinate Prime Minister Surachi]] comes off as this after the overwhelmingly negative response to her handling of the issues listed under UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The horrible ways some pony slave owners are shown to treat their slaves and Celestia's gross incompetence has caused a lot of readers to either give up on the story altogether, or just continue reading in the hopes of Celestia and all of ponykind getting a real punishment for her actions. Some readers even expressed the desire for the Equestrians to be enslaved as a form of LaserGuidedKarma.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The horrible ways some pony slave owners are shown to treat their slaves and Celestia's gross incompetence has caused a lot of readers to either give up on the story altogether, or just continue reading in the hopes of Celestia and all of ponykind getting a real punishment for her their actions. Some readers even expressed the a desire for the Equestrians to be enslaved as a form of LaserGuidedKarma.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The horrible ways some pony slave owners are shown to treat their slaves and Celestia's gross incompetence has caused a lot of readers to either give up on the story altogether, or just continue reading in the hopes of Celestia getting a real punishment for her actions. Some readers even expressed the desire for the Equestrians to be enslaved as a form of LaserGuidedKarma.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The horrible ways some pony slave owners are shown to treat their slaves and Celestia's gross incompetence has caused a lot of readers to either give up on the story altogether, or just continue reading in the hopes of Celestia and all of ponykind getting a real punishment for her actions. Some readers even expressed the desire for the Equestrians to be enslaved as a form of LaserGuidedKarma.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The horrible ways some pony slave owners are shown to treat their slaves and Celestia's gross incompetence has caused a lot of readers to either give up on the story altogether, or just continue reading in the hopes of Celestia getting a real punishment for her actions. Some readers even expressed the desire for the Equestrians to be enslaved as a form of LaserGuidedKarma.



** For that matter, why haven't the windigoes shown up to feed off the human's misery/hatred?

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** For that matter, why haven't the windigoes shown up to feed off the human's humans' misery/hatred?
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* TheWoobie: Chains, naturally.

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* TheWoobie: Chains, naturally.naturally.
* WoobieSpecies: Humanity as a whole has become this.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The reveal that Celestia [[spoiler:actually does fund anti-slavery movements and cells]] comes off as this after the overwhelmingly negative response to her handling of the issues listed under UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.
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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: If the whole enslavement situation came about because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs around in Equus? Griffons are the mythological arch-enemy of horses; and chapter 15 states they are [[ForeverWar locked in a ceaseless state of on-again-off-again warfare,]]. The Diamond Dogs are shown in-canon to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]].

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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: If the whole enslavement situation came about because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs around in Equus? Griffons are the mythological arch-enemy of horses; and chapter 15 states they are [[ForeverWar locked in a ceaseless state of on-again-off-again warfare,]].warfare]]. The Diamond Dogs are shown in-canon to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]].
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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: If the whole enslavement situation came about because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs around in Equus? Griffons are the mythological arch-enemy of horses; and {{Fanon}} states they are [[ForeverWar locked in a ceaseless state of on-again-off-again warfare,]] and the Diamond Dogs are shown in-canon to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]].

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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: If the whole enslavement situation came about because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs around in Equus? Griffons are the mythological arch-enemy of horses; and {{Fanon}} chapter 15 states they are [[ForeverWar locked in a ceaseless state of on-again-off-again warfare,]] and the warfare,]]. The Diamond Dogs are shown in-canon to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]].
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** The fact that it took protests from pegasus abolitionists to outlaw the practice of human gladiatorial rings, as well as the fact that a great many slaves ''are'' being mistreated (Twilight and Applejack are very clearly exceptions rather than the rule), yet Celestia doesn't seem to have done much to improve those conditions doesn't exactly help her case either.
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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: If the whole enslavement situation came about because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs around in Equus? Griffons are the mythological arch-enemy of horses; and {{Fanon}} states they are [[ForeverWar locked in a ceaceless state of on-again-off-again warfare,]] and the Diamond Dogs are shown in-canon to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]].

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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: If the whole enslavement situation came about because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs around in Equus? Griffons are the mythological arch-enemy of horses; and {{Fanon}} states they are [[ForeverWar locked in a ceaceless ceaseless state of on-again-off-again warfare,]] and the Diamond Dogs are shown in-canon to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]].
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** For that matter, why haven't the windigoes shown up to feed off the human's misery/hatred?
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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: If the whole enslavement situation came about because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs around in Equus? Griffons are the mythological arch-enemy of horses; and {{Fanon}} states they are [[ForeverWar locked in a ceaceless state of on-again-off-again warfare,]] and the Diamond Dogs shown in-canon to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]].

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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: If the whole enslavement situation came about because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs around in Equus? Griffons are the mythological arch-enemy of horses; and {{Fanon}} states they are [[ForeverWar locked in a ceaceless state of on-again-off-again warfare,]] and the Diamond Dogs are shown in-canon to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]].
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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: If the whole enslavement situation came about because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs around in Equus? Griffons are the mythological arch-enemy of horses; and {{Fanon}} states they are in a ceaceless state of on-again-off-again warfare, and the Diamond Dogs shown in-canon to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]].

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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: If the whole enslavement situation came about because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs around in Equus? Griffons are the mythological arch-enemy of horses; and {{Fanon}} states they are [[ForeverWar locked in a ceaceless state of on-again-off-again warfare, warfare,]] and the Diamond Dogs shown in-canon to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]].
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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: If the whole enslavement situation came about because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs around in Equus? Griffons are the mythological arch-enemy of horses, and the Diamond Dogs shown in-canon to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]].

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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: If the whole enslavement situation came about because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs around in Equus? Griffons are the mythological arch-enemy of horses, horses; and {{Fanon}} states they are in a ceaceless state of on-again-off-again warfare, and the Diamond Dogs shown in-canon to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]].
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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: if the current situation is because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs; one race the mythological arch-enemy of horses, the other shown in-canon to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]]?

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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: if If the current whole enslavement situation is came about because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs; one race Dogs around in Equus? Griffons are the mythological arch-enemy of horses, and the other Diamond Dogs shown in-canon to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]]?are]].
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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: if the current situation is because two humans ate a pony]], how are there still Griffons or Diamond Dogs; one race the mythological arch-enemy of horses, the other shown in-canon to be [[MadeASlave perfectly willing to pull the same bullshit the ponies are]]?
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* IdiotBall: Many readers felt TheReveal in Chapter 15 with regards to why the humans were enslaved was a case of Celestia holding a particularly large one of these.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Celestia. While she clearly did not enjoy turning then humans into a SlaveRace for the ponies, her rather weak attempts to justify her decision to Luna as well as the fact that she refuses to just overturn slavery overnight have made her come off like a weak and incompetent leader easily manipulated by her {{Evil Chancellor}}s to many a reader.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Celestia. While she clearly did not enjoy turning then the humans into a SlaveRace for the ponies, her rather weak attempts to justify her decision to Luna as well as the fact that she refuses to just overturn slavery overnight have made her come off like a weak and incompetent leader easily manipulated by her {{Evil Chancellor}}s to many a reader.
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* BrokenBase: Let's just say that Chapter 15 made a lot of readers (especially those on Fimfiction) hate Celestia.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Celestia. While she clearly did not enjoy turning then humans into a SlaveRace for the ponies, her rather weak attempts to justify her decision to Luna as well as the fact that she refuses to just overturn slavery overnight have made her come off like a weak and incompetent leader easily manipulated by her {{Evil Chancellor}}s to many a reader.
--> '''Celestia:''' "Luna, please, I need your help. I want your help to bring things to how they should be, with humans free."
--> '''Luna:''' [[JustEatGilligan "Why don't you just force the council to do as you command?"]]
--> '''Celestia:''' "That would not solve the problem. Ponies have had humans as slaves for centuries, to just force them to give it up would be difficult, these things will take time, but..."
--> '''Luna:''' [[WhatTheHellHero "You say you want to set things right]], [[ArmorPiercingQuestion but you're not willing to do so in the quickest and simplest way?"]]
* TheWoobie: Chains, naturally.

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