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* HilariousInHindsight: Oliver’s rhetorical question regarding Bruce Wayne leaving Gotham to hang out in Star City was in fact half true. According to “Elseworlds”, Bruce Wayne hadn’t been seen in Gotham for two years when Queen posed such question.

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* WhamLine: On a meta level; Oliver name-dropping [[Franchise/{{Batman}} a certain Gotham-based billionaire]] confirms the latter's existence in the Arrowverse, which comes as quite a surprise to viewers, who have long assumed that Oliver was essentially the franchise's version of Batman, who is otherwise ExiledFromContinuity; though there had been subtle hints before like that "Deranged Female Inmate" who's considered too dangerous for Taskforce X, "Oracle" already been taken as moniker, Thawne's newspaper mentioning a merger between Queen Inc. and Wayne Tech, not to mention Rip's line how he's seen "Dark Knights fall".

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* WhamLine: On a meta level; Oliver name-dropping [[Franchise/{{Batman}} a certain Gotham-based billionaire]] confirms the latter's existence in the Arrowverse, which comes as quite a surprise to viewers, who have long assumed that Oliver was essentially the franchise's version of Batman, who is otherwise ExiledFromContinuity; Batman,; though there had been subtle hints before like that "Deranged Female Inmate" who's considered too dangerous for Taskforce X, "Oracle" already been taken as moniker, Thawne's newspaper mentioning a merger between Queen Inc. and Wayne Tech, not to mention Rip's line how he's seen "Dark Knights fall".



** To be fair, the complexities of the multiverse make it possible that the Arrowverse may have a [[RichIdiotWithNoDayJob Bruce Wayne]] but not a Franchise/{{Batman}}. Perhaps Thomas and Martha Wayne were never murdered on this earth; or maybe they were, but this Bruce Wayne just never had the makings of a vigilante superhero.
** The existence of Wayne Enterprises (and by extension, Bruce) is mentioned on ''Series/{{The Flash|2014}}'' in an article from the future, when the merger of Wayne Enterprises and Queen Consolidated is to take place in/around 2026. It also implies that Oliver will get his company back, since when Ray Palmer bought it out, he renamed it as "Palmer Technologies".

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** To be fair, the complexities of the multiverse make it possible that the Arrowverse may have a [[RichIdiotWithNoDayJob Bruce Wayne]] but not a {{Franchise/Batman}}. Perhaps Thomas and Martha Wayne were never murdered on this earth; or maybe they were, but this Bruce Wayne just never had the makings of a vigilante superhero.
** The existence of Wayne Enterprises (and by extension, Bruce) is mentioned on ''Series/TheFlash'' in an article from the future, when the merger of Wayne Enterprises and Queen Consolidated is to take place in/around 2026. It also implies that Oliver will get his company back, since when Ray Palmer bought it out, he renamed it as "Palmer Technologies."

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** To be fair, the complexities of the multiverse make it possible that the Arrowverse may have a [[RichIdiotWithNoDayJob Bruce Wayne]] but not a {{Franchise/Batman}}.Franchise/{{Batman}}. Perhaps Thomas and Martha Wayne were never murdered on this earth; or maybe they were, but this Bruce Wayne just never had the makings of a vigilante superhero.
** The existence of Wayne Enterprises (and by extension, Bruce) is mentioned on ''Series/TheFlash'' ''Series/{{The Flash|2014}}'' in an article from the future, when the merger of Wayne Enterprises and Queen Consolidated is to take place in/around 2026. It also implies that Oliver will get his company back, since when Ray Palmer bought it out, he renamed it as "Palmer Technologies."Technologies".
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** To be fair, the complexities of the multiverse make it possible that the Arrowverse may have a [[RichIdiotWithNoDayJob Bruce Wayne]] but not a {{Franchise/Batman}}. Perhaps Thomas and Martha Wayne were never murdered on this earth; or maybe they were, but this Bruce Wayne just never had the makings of a vigilante superhero.

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** To be fair, the complexities of the multiverse make it possible that the Arrowverse may have a [[RichIdiotWithNoDayJob Bruce Wayne]] but not a {{Franchise/Batman}}. Perhaps Thomas and Martha Wayne were never murdered on this earth; or maybe they were, but this Bruce Wayne just never had the makings of a vigilante superhero.superhero.
** The existence of Wayne Enterprises (and by extension, Bruce) is mentioned on ''Series/TheFlash'' in an article from the future, when the merger of Wayne Enterprises and Queen Consolidated is to take place in/around 2026. It also implies that Oliver will get his company back, since when Ray Palmer bought it out, he renamed it as "Palmer Technologies."
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** To be fair, the complexities of the multiverse make it possible that the Arrowverse may have a [[RichIdiotWithNoDayJob Bruce Wayne]] but not a {{Franchise/Batman}}. Perhaps Thomas and Martha Wayne were never murdered on this earth; or they were and this Bruce Wayne just never had the makings of a vigilante superhero.

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** To be fair, the complexities of the multiverse make it possible that the Arrowverse may have a [[RichIdiotWithNoDayJob Bruce Wayne]] but not a {{Franchise/Batman}}. Perhaps Thomas and Martha Wayne were never murdered on this earth; or maybe they were and were, but this Bruce Wayne just never had the makings of a vigilante superhero.
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** Given that Flashpoint and the time aberrations have happened since then, the BadFuture is unlikely to be set in stone ([[RealLifeWritesThePlot especially if the creators don't want the show to have]] a depressing ForegoneConclusion). Besides, we have no reason to believe Oliver was even told of this possible future anyway, so he's not at fault for not considering it.

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** Given that Flashpoint and the time aberrations have happened since then, the BadFuture is unlikely to be set in stone ([[RealLifeWritesThePlot especially if the creators don't want the show to have]] a depressing ForegoneConclusion). Besides, we have no reason to believe Oliver was even told of this possible future anyway, so he's not at fault for not considering it.it.
* WhamLine: On a meta level; Oliver name-dropping [[Franchise/{{Batman}} a certain Gotham-based billionaire]] confirms the latter's existence in the Arrowverse, which comes as quite a surprise to viewers, who have long assumed that Oliver was essentially the franchise's version of Batman, who is otherwise ExiledFromContinuity; though there had been subtle hints before like that "Deranged Female Inmate" who's considered too dangerous for Taskforce X, "Oracle" already been taken as moniker, Thawne's newspaper mentioning a merger between Queen Inc. and Wayne Tech, not to mention Rip's line how he's seen "Dark Knights fall".
-->'''Oliver''': (to the press) Photos can be doctored. They could have put ''Bruce Wayne's'' head on that body. Has Bruce Wayne left Gotham to hang out in Star City recently? No.
** To be fair, the complexities of the multiverse make it possible that the Arrowverse may have a [[RichIdiotWithNoDayJob Bruce Wayne]] but not a {{Franchise/Batman}}. Perhaps Thomas and Martha Wayne were never murdered on this earth; or they were and this Bruce Wayne just never had the makings of a vigilante superhero.
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** Given that Flashpoint and the time aberrations have happened since then, the BadFuture is unlikely to be set in stone ([[RealLifeWritesThePlot Especially if the creators Won't want the show to have]] a depressing ForegoneConclusion). Besides, we have no reason to believe Oliver was even told of this possible future anyway, so he's not at fault for not considering it.

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** Given that Flashpoint and the time aberrations have happened since then, the BadFuture is unlikely to be set in stone ([[RealLifeWritesThePlot Especially especially if the creators Won't don't want the show to have]] a depressing ForegoneConclusion). Besides, we have no reason to believe Oliver was even told of this possible future anyway, so he's not at fault for not considering it.
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** Though to be fair, Diggle is already Spartan and risking his life every night anyway. And it's not like he was forced to do it, he willingly accepted the position (even in-spite of the degenerative nerve condition Oliver ''still'' doesn't know about).

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** Though to be fair, Diggle is already Spartan and risking his life every night anyway. And it's not like he was forced to do it, he willingly accepted the position (even in-spite of the degenerative nerve condition Oliver ''still'' doesn't know about).about).
** Given that Flashpoint and the time aberrations have happened since then, the BadFuture is unlikely to be set in stone ([[RealLifeWritesThePlot Especially if the creators Won't want the show to have]] a depressing ForegoneConclusion). Besides, we have no reason to believe Oliver was even told of this possible future anyway, so he's not at fault for not considering it.
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** Though to be fair Diggle is already Spartan and risking his life every night anyway. And it's not like he was force to do it, he willing accepted the position.

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** Though to be fair fair, Diggle is already Spartan and risking his life every night anyway. And it's not like he was force forced to do it, he willing willingly accepted the position.position (even in-spite of the degenerative nerve condition Oliver ''still'' doesn't know about).
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* MoralEventHorizon: If Anatoly didn't cross it last season, he certainly crosses it this episode when he kills is hostage just to spite Oliver.
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** Though to be fair Diggle is already Spartan and risking his life every night anyway.

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** Though to be fair Diggle is already Spartan and risking his life every night anyway. And it's not like he was force to do it, he willing accepted the position.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Oliver retires from hero-ing so he won't risk leaving his child fatherless...but apparently he's perfectly fine with Diggle taking the exact same risk. And it's going to happen, assuming the BadFuture seen in ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'' is still on track.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Oliver retires from hero-ing so he won't risk leaving his child fatherless...but apparently he's perfectly fine with Diggle taking the exact same risk. And it's going to happen, assuming the BadFuture seen in ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'' is still on track.track.
** Though to be fair Diggle is already Spartan and risking his life every night anyway.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Oliver retires from hero-ing so he won't risk leaving his child fatherless...but apparently he's perfectly fine with Diggle taking the exact same risk.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Oliver retires from hero-ing so he won't risk leaving his child fatherless...but apparently he's perfectly fine with Diggle taking the exact same risk. And it's going to happen, assuming the BadFuture seen in ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'' is still on track.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Oliver retires from hero-ing so he won't risk leaving his child fatherless...but apparently he's perfectly fine with Diggle taking the exact same risk.

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