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* Doc realizes that he can't remain in 1885, so he goes to tell his LoveInterest Clara that he will be leaving town, and she'll never see him again. Doc initially wants to keep the time travel a secret, but when she presses him for a reason why and demands to know the truth, he decides to tell her.\\
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* Doc realizes that he can't remain in 1885, so he goes to tell his LoveInterest {{Love Interest|s}} Clara that he will be leaving town, and she'll never see him again. Doc initially wants to keep the time travel a secret, but when she presses him for a reason why and demands to know the truth, he decides to tell her.\\
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'''You'd Expect:''' Doc to tell Jennifer that he needs to borrow Marty real quick for a science experiment, and that they'll be back in less than five minutes, which she would likely accept because she knows Doc. Doc could then drive Marty around the corner and fly the [=DeLorean=] away from there. There's no rush because they're in a time machine.\\
'''Instead:''' Doc decides to let Jennifer tag along because he's inexplicably imposing SanDimasTime on himself and in a rush, and "couldn't just leave her there with that information" even though she would have no way of knowing that the car is a time machine. Jennifer ultimately becomes a liability in 2015.
'''Instead:''' Doc decides to let Jennifer tag along because he's inexplicably imposing SanDimasTime on himself and in a rush, and "couldn't just leave her there with that information" even though she would have no way of knowing that the car is a time machine. Jennifer ultimately becomes a liability in 2015.
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'''You'd Expect:''' Doc to tell Jennifer that he needs to borrow Marty real quick for a science experiment, and that they'll be back in less than five minutes, which she would likely accept because she knows Doc. Doc could then drive Marty around the corner into an alley and fly the [=DeLorean=] away from there.there so she doesn't see them. There's no rush because they're in a time machine.\\
'''Instead:''' Doc decides to let Jennifer tag along because he's inexplicably imposing SanDimasTime on himself and in a rush, and "couldn't just leave her there with that information" even though she would have no way of knowing that the car is a time machine. Jennifer ultimately becomes a liability in 2015.\\
'''You'd Also Expect:''' Even with Jennifer in the car, Doc to pull around the corner into an alley and take off from there so no one on Marty's block sees them. There's no rush to depart because ''they are literally in a time machine.''\\
'''Instead:''' Doc decides to be cheeky ("Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads.") and takes off out in the open where ''anyone'' could potentially see them -- and in this case, ''Biff'' sees them. As a result, Old Biff retains a vague memory of this in 2015, which leads him to spy on Doc and Marty and figure out that the car is a time machine.
'''Instead:''' Doc decides to let Jennifer tag along because he's inexplicably imposing SanDimasTime on himself and in a rush, and "couldn't just leave her there with that information" even though she would have no way of knowing that the car is a time machine. Jennifer ultimately becomes a liability in 2015.\\
'''You'd Also Expect:''' Even with Jennifer in the car, Doc to pull around the corner into an alley and take off from there so no one on Marty's block sees them. There's no rush to depart because ''they are literally in a time machine.''\\
'''Instead:''' Doc decides to be cheeky ("Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads.") and takes off out in the open where ''anyone'' could potentially see them -- and in this case, ''Biff'' sees them. As a result, Old Biff retains a vague memory of this in 2015, which leads him to spy on Doc and Marty and figure out that the car is a time machine.
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* Doc pulls up to the [=McFly=] residence in 1985 to pick up Marty to go back to 2015. He finds Jennifer there with Marty.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Doc to tell Jennifer that he needs to borrow Marty real quick for a science experiment, and that they'll be back in less than five minutes, which she would likely accept because she knows Doc. Doc could then drive Marty around the corner and fly the [=DeLorean=] away from there. There's no rush because they're in a time machine.\\
'''Instead:''' Doc decides to let Jennifer tag along because he's inexplicably imposing SanDimasTime on himself and in a rush, and "couldn't just leave her there with that information" even though she would have no way of knowing that the car is a time machine. Jennifer ultimately becomes a liability in 2015.
'''You'd Expect:''' Doc to tell Jennifer that he needs to borrow Marty real quick for a science experiment, and that they'll be back in less than five minutes, which she would likely accept because she knows Doc. Doc could then drive Marty around the corner and fly the [=DeLorean=] away from there. There's no rush because they're in a time machine.\\
'''Instead:''' Doc decides to let Jennifer tag along because he's inexplicably imposing SanDimasTime on himself and in a rush, and "couldn't just leave her there with that information" even though she would have no way of knowing that the car is a time machine. Jennifer ultimately becomes a liability in 2015.
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I'd still argue that it's less an emotional decision not to show her, and more of just Doc being scatterbrained per the norm.
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* Doc realizes that he can't remain in 1885, so he goes to tell his LoveInterest Clara that he will be leaving town, and she'll never see him again. Doc initially wants to keep the time travel a secret, but when she presses him for a reason why and demands to know the truth, he decides to tell her.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Doc to take her to the time machine and show her that he's from the future, or show her some future tech (like the hoverboard). She's smart and progressive for her time and would probably understand, since the future tech would be pretty hard to explain otherwise. Plus, if he takes her directly to the [=DeLorean=], Marty would be there to vouch for Doc's word. Heck, Clara was originally supposed to die in the original timeline anyway (as the ravine was named after her in the original timeline after her wagon plummeted), so why not take her back to 1985 with them as Marty had suggested, as it would limit the potential damage to the timeline?\\
'''Instead:''' Doc decides that he doesn't want to further alter the timeline, despite the fact that he had already done so by saving Clara's life. The lovesick Doc tells Clara the truth with no evidence other than his word, and she naturally assumes he's lying and tearfully tells him to get lost. Brokenhearted, he lollygags around the saloon and passes out at an inopportune time. The delay nearly costs him and Marty their lives, and nearly costs Clara hers when she finds out that Doc wasn't lying.
'''You'd Expect:''' Doc to take her to the time machine and show her that he's from the future, or show her some future tech (like the hoverboard). She's smart and progressive for her time and would probably understand, since the future tech would be pretty hard to explain otherwise. Plus, if he takes her directly to the [=DeLorean=], Marty would be there to vouch for Doc's word. Heck, Clara was originally supposed to die in the original timeline anyway (as the ravine was named after her in the original timeline after her wagon plummeted), so why not take her back to 1985 with them as Marty had suggested, as it would limit the potential damage to the timeline?\\
'''Instead:''' Doc decides that he doesn't want to further alter the timeline, despite the fact that he had already done so by saving Clara's life. The lovesick Doc tells Clara the truth with no evidence other than his word, and she naturally assumes he's lying and tearfully tells him to get lost. Brokenhearted, he lollygags around the saloon and passes out at an inopportune time. The delay nearly costs him and Marty their lives, and nearly costs Clara hers when she finds out that Doc wasn't lying.
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In that case, it’s less him being stupid and more so him being emotional
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* Doc realizes that he can't remain in 1885, so he goes to tell his LoveInterest Clara that he will be leaving town, and she'll never see him again. Doc initially wants to keep the time travel a secret, but when she presses him for a reason why, he resolves to tell her the truth.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Doc to take her to the time machine and show her that he's from the future, or show her some future tech (like the hoverboard). She's smart and progressive for her time and would probably understand, since the future tech would be pretty hard to explain otherwise, plus Marty would be there to vouch for Doc's word. Heck, she was originally supposed to die in the original timeline anyway (as the ravine was named after her in the original timeline after her wagon plummeted), so why not take her back to 1985 with them as Marty had suggested, as it would limit the potential damage to the timeline?\\
'''Instead:''' Doc decides that he doesn't want to further alter the timeline, despite the fact that he had already saved Clara's life. The lovesick Doc tells Clara the truth with no evidence other than his word, and she naturally assumes he's lying and tearfully tells him to get lost. Brokenhearted, he lollygags around the saloon and passes out at an inopportune time. The delay nearly costs him and Marty their lives, and nearly costs Clara hers when she finds out that Doc wasn't lying.\\
'''However:''' The only reason Doc tells her the truth, as unbelievable as it would sound, is because she tells him that if he truly loves her, he'll tell her the truth. Doc does so without a single moment of hesitation.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Doc to take her to the time machine and show her that he's from the future, or show her some future tech (like the hoverboard). She's smart and progressive for her time and would probably understand, since the future tech would be pretty hard to explain otherwise, plus Marty would be there to vouch for Doc's word. Heck, she was originally supposed to die in the original timeline anyway (as the ravine was named after her in the original timeline after her wagon plummeted), so why not take her back to 1985 with them as Marty had suggested, as it would limit the potential damage to the timeline?\\
'''Instead:''' Doc decides that he doesn't want to further alter the timeline, despite the fact that he had already saved Clara's life. The lovesick Doc tells Clara the truth with no evidence other than his word, and she naturally assumes he's lying and tearfully tells him to get lost. Brokenhearted, he lollygags around the saloon and passes out at an inopportune time. The delay nearly costs him and Marty their lives, and nearly costs Clara hers when she finds out that Doc wasn't lying.\\
'''However:''' The only reason Doc tells her the truth, as unbelievable as it would sound, is because she tells him that if he truly loves her, he'll tell her the truth. Doc does so without a single moment of hesitation.\\
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* In 2015, when Marty and Doc go to the subdivision Hilldale to get back Jennifer, who was mistaken for her future self by a couple of cops, who brought her to her future self's home, Doc proceeds to go to the house on foot after parking the [=DeLorean=], and tells Marty to stay and keep watch. Some time later, he spots an automated dog walker probe exclusive to 2015.\\
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* In 2015, when Marty and Doc go to the subdivision Hilldale to get back Jennifer, who was mistaken for her future self by a couple of cops, who brought her to her future self's home, Doc proceeds to go to the house on foot after parking the [=DeLorean=], and tells Marty to stay and keep watch. Some time later, he Marty spots an automated dog walker probe exclusive to 2015.\\
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'''Instead:''' Doc decides that he doesn't want to further alter the timeline, despite the fact that he had already saved Clara's life. The lovesick Doc tells Clara the truth with no evidence other than his word, and she naturally assumes he's lying and tearfully tells him to get lost. Brokenhearted, he lollygags around the saloon and passes out at an inopportune time. The delay nearly costs him and Marty their lives, and nearly costs Clara hers when she finds out that Doc wasn't lying.
'''However:''' The only reason Doc tells her the truth, as unbelievable as it would sound, is because she tells him that if he truly loves her, he'll tell her the truth. Doc does so without a single moment of hesitation.
'''However:''' The only reason Doc tells her the truth, as unbelievable as it would sound, is because she tells him that if he truly loves her, he'll tell her the truth. Doc does so without a single moment of hesitation.
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'''Instead:''' Doc decides that he doesn't want to further alter the timeline, despite the fact that he had already saved Clara's life. The lovesick Doc tells Clara the truth with no evidence other than his word, and she naturally assumes he's lying and tearfully tells him to get lost. Brokenhearted, he lollygags around the saloon and passes out at an inopportune time. The delay nearly costs him and Marty their lives, and nearly costs Clara hers when she finds out that Doc wasn't lying.
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'''However:''' The only reason Doc tells her the truth, as unbelievable as it would sound, is because she tells him that if he truly loves her, he'll tell her the truth. Doc does so without a single moment of hesitation.\\
'''However:''' The only reason Doc tells her the truth, as unbelievable as it would sound, is because she tells him that if he truly loves her, he'll tell her the truth. Doc does so without a single moment of hesitation.\\
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'''However:''' The only reason Doc tells her the truth, as unbelievable as it would sound, is because she tells him that if he truly loves her, he'll tell her the truth. Doc does so without a single moment of hesitation.
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'''Instead:''' He goes straight to the antique store, and he doesn't return to Jennifer right away, because he stops to marvel at his new purchase.\\
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'''Instead:''' He goes straight to the antique store, and even after buying the book, he doesn't return to Jennifer right away, because he stops stopping first to marvel at his new purchase.\\
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'''Then:''' Doc returns to pick up Marty. He arrives by flying through the alley that they had landed in earlier, where Jennifer is.\\
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'''Then:''' After Marty escapes Griff when things go sideways, he starts making his way back across the street. He's immediately distracted by Terry, by the holographic billboard, and by talk of gambling. He decides to buy the almanac he saw.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' At the VERY least, Marty to go check on Jennifer first.\\
'''Instead:''' He goes straight to the antique store, and he doesn't return to Jennifer right away, because he stops to marvel at his new purchase.\\
'''Meanwhile:''' Doc returns to pick up Marty. He arrives by flying through the alley that they had landed in earlier, where Jennifer is.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' At the VERY least, Marty to go check on Jennifer first.\\
'''Instead:''' He goes straight to the antique store, and he doesn't return to Jennifer right away, because he stops to marvel at his new purchase.\\
'''Meanwhile:''' Doc returns to pick up Marty. He arrives by flying through the alley that they had landed in earlier, where Jennifer is.\\
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* Shortly after arriving in 2015, Doc uses a sleep inducer to get Jennifer to go to sleep. They land in a back alley in preparation of Marty going undercover as Marty Jr.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Doc to take Jennifer somewhere -- anywhere (or anywhen) -- to keep her out of the back alley. She's pretty vulnerable in her state, and he's got a time machine, so he's got all the time in the world.\\
'''Instead:''' Doc and Marty leave Jennifer next to some cubes of garbage in the alley. When Marty protests, Doc says it'll just be for a few minutes. It isn't.\\
'''Then:''' Doc returns to pick up Marty. He arrives by flying through the alley that they had landed in earlier, where Jennifer is.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Doc to get Jennifer first, since he's ''right there''.\\
'''Instead:''' He completely forgets about Jennifer, floats on through, lands on the street in front of the antique store, rubbernecks during the Griff situation, and only ''then'' remembers that they have to pick up Jennifer -- which they don't do, because he gets distracted by the almanac. Because of the delay, Jennifer gets discovered by Officers Reese and Foley, who think she's the Jennifer of the future and decide to take her home.
'''You'd Expect''': Doc to take Jennifer somewhere -- anywhere (or anywhen) -- to keep her out of the back alley. She's pretty vulnerable in her state, and he's got a time machine, so he's got all the time in the world.\\
'''Instead:''' Doc and Marty leave Jennifer next to some cubes of garbage in the alley. When Marty protests, Doc says it'll just be for a few minutes. It isn't.\\
'''Then:''' Doc returns to pick up Marty. He arrives by flying through the alley that they had landed in earlier, where Jennifer is.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Doc to get Jennifer first, since he's ''right there''.\\
'''Instead:''' He completely forgets about Jennifer, floats on through, lands on the street in front of the antique store, rubbernecks during the Griff situation, and only ''then'' remembers that they have to pick up Jennifer -- which they don't do, because he gets distracted by the almanac. Because of the delay, Jennifer gets discovered by Officers Reese and Foley, who think she's the Jennifer of the future and decide to take her home.
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Traveling back in time sounds like a unique idea to meet the past and future of the exploits utilizing them. However, the idiotic moments caused TemporalParadox to the character's choices.
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* During the third act, Marty learns that Old!Biff gave the almanac to Young!Biff in 1955 and that Young!Biff earned his first million(s) in 1958 by betting on the ponies after turning 21. That gives Doc and Marty about a three-year span of time to steal the almanac back from Young!Biff.\\
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* During the third act, Marty learns that Old!Biff Old Biff gave the almanac to Young!Biff Young Biff in 1955 and that Young!Biff Young Biff earned his first million(s) in 1958 by betting on the ponies after turning 21. That gives Doc and Marty about a three-year span of time to steal the almanac back from Young!Biff.Young Biff.\\
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** During the third act, Marty learns that Old!Biff gave the almanac to Young!Biff in 1955 and that Young!Biff earned his first million(s) in 1958 by betting on the ponies after turning 21. That gives Doc and Marty about a three-year span of time to steal the almanac back from Young!Biff.\\
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'''You'd Expect:''' Marty and Doc to go back in time between the day Biff got the almanac and when he bet on the horse races when he turned 21 in 1958. That way, Doc and Marty don't risk running into their Part I selves.
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'''You'd Expect:''' Marty and Doc to go back in time between the day Biff got the almanac and when he bet on the horse races when he turned 21 in 1958. That way, Doc and Marty don't risk running into their Part I selves.\\
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'''You'd Expect:''' Older Biff to make sure his plans worked out all right, and to help out younger Biff in case anything unforeseen happens. Or at the very least, he would keep the [=DeLorean=] for himself and ''not'' return it to 2015 right where Doc and Marty left it, because they're bound to go back to 1985 at some point and realize something is amiss. Or he could destroy it so that no one else can use it to undo what he's done. Since he has the time machine, he's basically holding all the cards at this point.\\
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'''You'd Expect:''' Think:''' Older Biff to would make sure his plans worked out all right, and to help out younger Biff in case anything unforeseen happens. Or at the very least, he would keep the [=DeLorean=] for himself and ''not'' return it to 2015 right where Doc and Marty left it, because they're bound to go back to 1985 at some point and realize something is amiss. Or he could destroy it so that no one else can use it to undo what he's done. Since he has the time machine, he's basically holding all the cards at this point.\\
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** During the third act, Marty learns that Old!Biff gave the almanac to Young!Biff in 1955 and that Young!Biff earned his first million(s) in 1958 by betting on the ponies after turning 21. That gives Doc and Marty about a three-year span of time to steal the almanac back from Young!Biff.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Marty and Doc to go back in time between the day Biff got the almanac and when he bet on the horse races when he turned 21 in 1958. That way, Doc and Marty don't risk running into their Part I selves.
'''Alternatively:''' If they still think it would've been better to get rid of the almanac as soon as possible to minimize any changes to the timeline and because they probably don't know where else Biff is besides that date, to go to 1955, but wait until about 3am on the day of the Under the Sea Dance (after the storm had passed) and steal it while Biff is asleep or whatever.\\
'''Instead:''' Neither option is considered and they go directly to November 1955, on the day Biff got the almanac, and Marty is told not to interfere with Old Biff giving Young Biff the almanac, to which Marty ends up having to steal DURING the school dance and risk running into his Part I self. All of the urgency of the third act in Part II is incredibly forced.
'''You'd Expect:''' Marty and Doc to go back in time between the day Biff got the almanac and when he bet on the horse races when he turned 21 in 1958. That way, Doc and Marty don't risk running into their Part I selves.
'''Alternatively:''' If they still think it would've been better to get rid of the almanac as soon as possible to minimize any changes to the timeline and because they probably don't know where else Biff is besides that date, to go to 1955, but wait until about 3am on the day of the Under the Sea Dance (after the storm had passed) and steal it while Biff is asleep or whatever.\\
'''Instead:''' Neither option is considered and they go directly to November 1955, on the day Biff got the almanac, and Marty is told not to interfere with Old Biff giving Young Biff the almanac, to which Marty ends up having to steal DURING the school dance and risk running into his Part I self. All of the urgency of the third act in Part II is incredibly forced.
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* Doc realizes that he can't remain in 1885, so he goes to tell his LoveInterest Clara that he will be leaving town, and she'll never see him again. She presses him for a reason why.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Doc to take her to the time machine and show her that he's from the future, or show her some future tech (like the hoverboard). She's smart and progressive for her time and would probably understand, since the future tech would be pretty hard to explain otherwise. Heck, she was originally supposed to die in the original timeline anyway (as the ravine was named after her in the original timeline after her wagon plummeted), so why not take her back to 1985 with them, as it would limit the potential damage to the timeline?\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Doc to take her to the time machine and show her that he's from the future, or show her some future tech (like the hoverboard). She's smart and progressive for her time and would probably understand, since the future tech would be pretty hard to explain otherwise. Heck, she was originally supposed to die in the original timeline anyway (as the ravine was named after her in the original timeline after her wagon plummeted), so why not take her back to 1985 with them, as it would limit the potential damage to the timeline?\\
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* Doc realizes that he can't remain in 1885, so he goes to tell his LoveInterest Clara that he will be leaving town, and she'll never see him again. She Doc initially wants to keep the time travel a secret, but when she presses him for a reason why.why, he resolves to tell her the truth.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Doc to take her to the time machine and show her that he's from the future, or show her some future tech (like the hoverboard). She's smart and progressive for her time and would probably understand, since the future tech would be pretty hard to explainotherwise. otherwise, plus Marty would be there to vouch for Doc's word. Heck, she was originally supposed to die in the original timeline anyway (as the ravine was named after her in the original timeline after her wagon plummeted), so why not take her back to 1985 with them, them as Marty had suggested, as it would limit the potential damage to the timeline?\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Doc to take her to the time machine and show her that he's from the future, or show her some future tech (like the hoverboard). She's smart and progressive for her time and would probably understand, since the future tech would be pretty hard to explain
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'''Instead''': He doesn't bother to even try and land the [=DeLorean=], and wouldn't you know it, the [=DeLorean=] (with Doc inside) gets struck by lightning when the storm approaches, sending him back all the way to 1885, where he eventually gets shot by Buford Tannen (aka "Mad Dog"), Biff's ancestor.
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'''Instead''': He doesn't bother to even try and land the [=DeLorean=], and wouldn't you know it, the [=DeLorean=] (with Doc inside) gets struck by lightning when the storm approaches, sending him back all the way to 1885, where he eventually gets shot by Buford Tannen (aka "Mad Dog"), Dog" Tannen, Biff's ancestor.
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'''The Result:''' Upon returning to 1985, the [=DeLorean=] stalls again, forcing Marty to run on foot to the mall, where he arrives just in time to see Doc get shot. Fortunately, Doc eventually read the letter and protected himself with a bullet-proof vest.
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'''The Result:''' Upon returning to 1985, the [=DeLorean=] stalls again, forcing Marty to run on foot to the mall, where he arrives just in time to see Doc get shot. Fortunately, Doc eventually read the letter and protected himself with a bullet-proof vest.vest, but Marty couldn't have known that.
