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** Locke sometimes comes off as this. He commits some people pretty extreme acts on the way to his goals.

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** Locke sometimes comes off as this. He commits some people pretty extreme acts on the way to his goals.
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* ''Series/StrangerThings'': In the fourth season, Jason Carver is genuinely devastated by the death of his girlfriend and becomes convinced she and the other teens who die mysteriously are the victims of a satanic cult run by Eddie. He's wrong, but from his perspective, based on the limited information he gets from what is in fact due to otherworldly events, he's acting heroically.

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* ''Series/StrangerThings'': In the fourth season, Jason Carver is genuinely devastated by the death of his girlfriend and becomes convinced she and the other teens who die mysteriously are the victims of a satanic cult run by Eddie. He's wrong, but from his perspective, based on the limited information he gets from what is are in fact due to otherworldly events, he's acting heroically.
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** While Varys can and will switch sides if it suits him and is willing to commit some pretty ambiguous acts, in the long run, Varys is doing it all for the sake of the Realm. He might even be one of the most genuinely well-intentioned characters in the show since he takes the little people into consideration, though his methods and goals for doing so lack imagination. (His counterpart in the books is more sinister, and commits some truly malovolent acts, but still comes off in this category.)

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** While Varys can and will switch sides if it suits him and is willing to commit some pretty ambiguous acts, in the long run, Varys is doing it all for the sake of the Realm. He might even be one of the most genuinely well-intentioned characters in the show since he takes the little people into consideration, though his methods and goals for doing so lack imagination. (His counterpart in (In the books is he’s somewhat more sinister, sinister and commits some truly malovolent acts, but still comes off in this category.)
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* ''Series/StrangerThings'': In the fourth season, Jason Carver is genuinely devastated by the death of his girlfriend and becomes convinced she and the other teens who die mysteriously are the victims of a satanic cult run by Eddie. He's wrong, but from his perspective, based on the limited information he gets from what is in fact due to otherworldly events, he's acting heroically.
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** Locke sometimes comes off as this. He commits some people pretty extreme acts on the way to his goals.
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** While Varys can and will switch sides if it suits him and is willing to commit some pretty ambiguous acts, in the long run, Varys is doing it all for the sake of the Realm. He might even be one of the most genuinely well-intentioned characters in the show since he takes the little people into consideration, though his methods and goals for doing so lack imagination.

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** While Varys can and will switch sides if it suits him and is willing to commit some pretty ambiguous acts, in the long run, Varys is doing it all for the sake of the Realm. He might even be one of the most genuinely well-intentioned characters in the show since he takes the little people into consideration, though his methods and goals for doing so lack imagination. (His counterpart in the books is more sinister, and commits some truly malovolent acts, but still comes off in this category.)

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* ''Series/MotherlandFortSalem'': The songs that call down storms and tornados cause environmental disaster in other places around the world; droughts, famines, disease and other similar catastrophes. The world governments are completely aware of this, they simply don't care. They think the good their power does in war makes the resulting deaths from their consequences worth it.

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The songs that call down storms and tornados tornadoes cause environmental disaster in other places around the world; droughts, famines, disease and other similar catastrophes. The world governments are completely aware of this, they simply don't care. They think the good their power does in war makes the resulting deaths from their consequences worth it.it.
** The Spree oppose witches being mass conscipted into the military, which they condemn as a kind of slavery, with a high death toll as witch soldiers fight {{muggles}} wars. However, they fight this by massacring {{muggles}} with their spells, [[WouldHurtAChild including children]].
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* ''Series/{{Touch}}'': Guillermo Ortiz may be the most ruthless person to ever hold this distinction, [[KnightTemplar singularly devoted to the goal of killing a group of 36 people whose very existence he believes]] [[TheHeretic to be a crime against]] {{God}} [[YouAreWhatYouHate and bound to this goal by being a member of said group (presumably he intends to commit suicide after all of the others have been killed),]] but when he nearly took the life of someone outside this group of 36, it caused him to doubt himself, and when his attempt to confess his sins forced him to do what he'd narrowly avoided doing in order to remain free to continue his mission, he had a severe crisis of faith that only ended when he saved the life of a man who'd been DrivenToSuicide and restored the man's will to live. It truly appears that he is genuine in his belief that in hunting down and killing 35 highly gifted individuals and then committing suicide he is merely [[ChurchMilitant carrying out God's will.]]

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* ''Series/{{Touch}}'': ''Series/Touch2012'': Guillermo Ortiz may be the most ruthless person to ever hold this distinction, [[KnightTemplar singularly devoted to the goal of killing a group of 36 people whose very existence he believes]] [[TheHeretic to be a crime against]] {{God}} [[YouAreWhatYouHate and bound to this goal by being a member of said group (presumably he intends to commit suicide after all of the others have been killed),]] but when he nearly took the life of someone outside this group of 36, it caused him to doubt himself, and when his attempt to confess his sins forced him to do what he'd narrowly avoided doing in order to remain free to continue his mission, he had a severe crisis of faith that only ended when he saved the life of a man who'd been DrivenToSuicide and restored the man's will to live. It truly appears that he is genuine in his belief that in hunting down and killing 35 highly gifted individuals and then committing suicide he is merely [[ChurchMilitant carrying out God's will.]]
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* In Season 3 of ''Series/TheBoys2019'', [[TheLeader Butcher]] and [[NaiveNewcomer Hughie]] resolve to do whatever it takes in their [[CapeBusters war against the Supes]], which leads to them butting heads with the rest of the team especially after they start taking SuperSerum to [[EmpoweredBadassNormal level the playing field]] as the others argue that NoManShouldHaveThisPower. [[spoiler:Eventually, the two end up betraying the others and teaming up with ComicBook/CaptainAmerica {{expy}} Soldier Boy to try to kill [[BigBad Homelander]], in spite of him killing M.M.'s family and numerous others.]]
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** ''Series/KamenRiderRevice'': [[spoiler:Hideo Akaishi]] believes humankind will inevitably [[InYourNatureToDestroyYourselves destroy itself]] and that the best way to ensure humans survive is to make them all servants of an immensely powerful demon god. He's later joined by [[spoiler:Daiji Igarashi]], who believes it's hopeless to oppose said demon god and that the best way to ensure the least casualties is to put an end to the conflict as quickly as possible.
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* ''Series/HenryDanger'': Rick Twitler wants to permanently shut down the Internet because he feels that social media websites are taking over people's lives.
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** ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'' lead villain Kuroto Dan is looking for the cure for death, and he intends to share once he has it. A pity that his method of ''creating'' the cure involves using thousands of people as his unwilling test subjects by uploading their minds into his video games, without knowing if he can actually resurrect them when he's done.

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** ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'' lead villain Kuroto Dan is looking for the cure for death, and he intends to share once he has it. A pity that his method of ''creating'' the cure involves using thousands of people as his unwilling test subjects by uploading their minds into injecting them with a lethal pathogen that will make them trade places with characters from his video games, without knowing if he can actually resurrect them when he's done.

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* ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'':
** Yggdrasil is seen as this post-episode 19, as they are trying to prevent the Helheim Forest from over taking the world. The following episodes go on to reveal the lengths they're willing to go to to stop this from happening ([[spoiler:which goes up to and including the worst-case-scenario of making {{transformation trinket}}s to ensure the survival of a billion people then killing off the other six]]) but soon after it's revealed that ''no one'' is actually well-intentioned. A good chunk of Yggdrasil don't care about the ends ([[DragonWithAnAgenda their own goals are more important]]) and the only one who ''does'' care is deeply upset with the means and latches onto a more optimistic option the first chance he gets... [[spoiler:which gets him overthrown by the former]].
** After Yggdrasil's done and over with, [[spoiler:along with a group of people who control Helheim Forest]], a victim of their extremism steps in and declares his vow to destroy the world. When Kouta confronts him in the final battle, he points out that his experience taught him that the strong hurt the weak because they lost their compassion in the process of being strong. His conclusion? Kill all of humanity and replace it with his own kind of race, one that wouldn't trade compassion for strength. Kouta knows where he's coming from, but believes he's going about it the wrong way.

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** ''Series/KamenRiderKabuto'' has the Natives as its final villains, a group of shapeshifting aliens that infiltrated humanity long ago and have spent most of the show exterminating their more warlike cousins the Worms. However, those same events lead the Natives to believe that humanity will be a threat to them too, which leads them to attempt to convert all of humanity into more Natives via AssimilationPlot.
** ''Series/KamenRiderDecade'''s closest thing to a main villain, Narutaki, never has his motives fully explained, but seems to be driven by a belief that Decade is a threat to all universes and needs to be stopped by any means necessary. He's not unjustified in this accusation, as Decade ''is'' the Destroyer of Worlds.
** ''Series/KamenRiderDouble'' lead villain Ryubee Sonozaki is driven by fear that mankind could one day go extinct for any number of reasons, with the belief that his research into the FantasticDrug that drives the series will allow them to escape this fate by evolving into EnergyBeings. None of his family or coworkers are nearly so well-intentioned, however, being more interested in the wealth and power that come with their status as drug kingpins.
** ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'' has many.
Yggdrasil is seen as this post-episode 19, as they are trying to prevent the extinction of humanity when the Helheim Forest from over taking overtakes the world. The following episodes go on world and replaces all edible plantlife with BodyHorror-inducing AlienKudzu. They plan to reveal the lengths they're willing to go to to stop do this from happening ([[spoiler:which goes up to and including the worst-case-scenario of by making {{transformation trinket}}s to ensure the survival of a billion people people, then killing off the other six]]) but soon after it's revealed six. It doesn't take long, however, for it to become clear that ''no one'' is actually well-intentioned. A a good chunk of Yggdrasil don't care about the ends ([[DragonWithAnAgenda their own goals are more important]]) important]]), and the only one who ''does'' care is deeply upset with the means and latches onto a more optimistic option the first chance he gets... [[spoiler:which gets...which gets him overthrown by the former]].
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rest. After Yggdrasil's done and over with, [[spoiler:along Yggdrasil falls, along with a group all of people who control Helheim Forest]], the other villains that emerge along the way, a victim of their extremism steps in and declares his vow to destroy the world. When Kouta confronts him in the final battle, he points out that his experience taught him that the strong hurt the weak because they lost their compassion in the process of being strong. His conclusion? Kill all of humanity and replace it with his own kind of race, one that wouldn't trade compassion for strength. Kouta knows where he's coming from, but believes he's going about it the wrong way.way.
** ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'' lead villain Kuroto Dan is looking for the cure for death, and he intends to share once he has it. A pity that his method of ''creating'' the cure involves using thousands of people as his unwilling test subjects by uploading their minds into his video games, without knowing if he can actually resurrect them when he's done.
** ''Series/KamenRiderZeroOne'' centers around a supercomputer that spent its formative years being pumped full of all the information its creator could find about why HumansAreBastards, in order to spur it into becoming a robot supremacist driven by deeming humanity a threat to all other life on Earth. However, it's nearly immediately stopped and thrown to the bottom of a lake to rot for over a decade, with the result that when its remaining followers resurrect it, they find that MotiveDecay has set in ''hard'', and the now-insane computer is driven purely by hatred for everything and everyone but itself.
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** Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries has several examples of this: One villainous leader put thousands of people to death in order to save thousands of other people. There's also the episode in which someone sets up a version of Nazi Germany on a particular planet, intending to capture only the good aspects of that culture and not the bad, only to have things go horribly wrong. In "The Cage," the aliens who kidnap Captain Pike are trying to help a disfigured woman by giving her a mate, and they think they are helping Captain Pike as well, but they release him after they realize that humans have an intense dislike of captivity.
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** A father who had won custody rights of his children goes to pick them up from school but finds them missing. Cue him going to his ex-wife's lawyer and threatening him with a gun because he thought the lawyer kidnapped his children to fly them out of the country.
** A widow lost her husband to a rare drug reaction and then lost support of people who accepted a settlement with the pharmaceutical company. She decided to go on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against those who she felt was responsible for her husband's death by going to the company's conference party and it's horrifyingly clear she has an ''extensive'' target list.
** The leader of a drug rehab program that became a cult honestly wanted to keep his people safe from the outside world. When he finds out he is dying of cancer, he claims they cannot survive on their own without him and decides to kill them all, including himself. Ironically, if he had just told them what his plans were, it is possible they might have gone with it but because he didn't tell them anything, everyone panicked once they realized they were in danger.
** The sister of an abused woman wanted to stop the abusive husband after several failed attempts, so she kidnaps him and holds him at gunpoint to make him stop hurting her sister.
** A woman kidnaps her children after they have been HappilyAdopted by two separate families, as she had been led to believe once she got out of prison they would be returned to her. When she finds out the truth, she has a meltdown and decides to kidnaps them.
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* ''Literature/TheGoodLordBird'': Brown is willing to use violence, including killing unarmed prisoners, in his crusade to eradicate slavery (it helps that his victims are its proponents).

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** Several villains, including Stephen Saunders, who threatens the US with a biological weapon to halt American globalism; [[spoiler:President Logan]] in season 5, who sold nerve gas to Central Asian terrorists in order to frame them as an excuse for US intervention in Central Asia and gain oil from the area, and ordered the assassination of an ex-president to cover it up; and Tom Lennox in season 6, who seeks to inter thousands of American Muslims in the hopes of protecting the country from terrorism, and becomes involved in an assassination plot against the president when his proposals are declined. [[spoiler:Though, in fairness, he was only pretending to go along with the assassination in order to uncover the conspirators]].

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** Several villains, including Stephen Saunders, who threatens the US with a biological weapon to halt American globalism; [[spoiler:President Logan]] in season Season 5, who sold nerve gas to Central Asian terrorists in order to frame them as an excuse for US intervention in Central Asia and gain oil from the area, and ordered the assassination of an ex-president to cover it up; and Tom Lennox in season Season 6, who seeks to inter thousands of American Muslims in the hopes of protecting the country from terrorism, and becomes involved in an assassination plot against the president when his proposals are declined. [[spoiler:Though, in fairness, he was only pretending to go along with the assassination in order to uncover the conspirators]].



** In season 3, it turns out Alie was the artificial intelligence who believed the best way to control population was to start a nuclear war.

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** Also the Order of Byzantium from season 5. Their main goal was to destroy the key to stop Glory from using it and destroying the universe. Notably, in a later season Buffy admits to Giles that she's come to realize they were right at the time, and if she had to make a similar choice now she ''would'' do it.

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** Also the Order of Byzantium from season Season 5. Their main goal was to destroy the key to stop Glory from using it and destroying the universe. Notably, in a later season Buffy admits to Giles that she's come to realize they were right at the time, and if she had to make a similar choice now she ''would'' do it.



** Gideon, the BigBad of season 6. He believed that Wyatt, born of a Charmed One and Whitelighter, was too powerful a being to remain good, and, after learing about a future where Wyatt did indeed turn evil, was determined to prevent that from happening. What Gideon didn't realize, however, was that it was his pursuit of Wyatt for weeks in the Underworld is what caused the boy to turn evil eventually in that future. He [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope solidified this status]] in allowing innocents to be killed to cover his tracks, and even personally killing his friend and confidant Sigmund when he left to expose Gideon's plans to the sisters. He was willing to go so far as to work with his [[MirrorUniverse Evil Mirror opposite]], which just unbalanced the world even more.

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** Gideon, the BigBad of season Season 6. He believed that Wyatt, born of a Charmed One and Whitelighter, was too powerful a being to remain good, and, after learing learning about a future where Wyatt did indeed turn evil, was determined to prevent that from happening. What Gideon didn't realize, however, was that it was his pursuit of Wyatt for weeks in the Underworld is what caused the boy to turn evil eventually in that future. He [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope solidified this status]] in allowing innocents to be killed to cover his tracks, and even personally killing his friend and confidant Sigmund when he left to expose Gideon's plans to the sisters. He was willing to go so far as to work with his [[MirrorUniverse Evil Mirror opposite]], which just unbalanced the world even more.



* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'': A few [[VictimOfTheWeek Victims Of The Week]] fall into this category, as does [[MyCountryRightOrWrong Control]]. In the second half of season four, [[TheCracker Root]] tumbles backwards into this after she had just managed to pull herself into a [[ThouShaltNotKill relatively moral code]] due to a SanitySlippage following [[spoiler: [[UncertainDoom Shaw's disappearance]]]]. Toyed with to Hell and back with [[MissionControl Finch]], who played it straight by building the Machine following September 11th, constantly violating the privacy of basically ''everyone in the United States'' to stop terrorist activity, but built it as a closed system so that it couldn't be abused by the government, specifically to avert this.

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* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'': A few [[VictimOfTheWeek Victims Of The Week]] fall into this category, as does [[MyCountryRightOrWrong Control]]. In the second half of season four, Season 4, [[TheCracker Root]] tumbles backwards into this after she had just managed to pull herself into a [[ThouShaltNotKill relatively moral code]] due to a SanitySlippage following [[spoiler: [[UncertainDoom Shaw's disappearance]]]]. Toyed with to Hell and back with [[MissionControl Finch]], who played it straight by building the Machine following September 11th, constantly violating the privacy of basically ''everyone in the United States'' to stop terrorist activity, but built it as a closed system so that it couldn't be abused by the government, specifically to avert this.



** [[spoiler:Lana Lang]] around season five to seven (it is not made too clear) in her mission to get revenge on Lex. Chloe slams her for it. WhatTheHellHero doesn't seem bad enough to cover it.

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** [[spoiler:Lana Lang]] around season five Season 5 to seven (it is not made too clear) in her mission to get revenge on Lex. Chloe slams her for it. WhatTheHellHero doesn't seem bad enough to cover it.



** Sam Winchester had a few shades of it too in seasons 3 and 4 where he was reluctantly willing to sacrifice one for the good of the many.
** In season 6, the Big Bad of the season, to whom both [[spoiler: Crowley and Eve]] played {{Disc One Final Boss}}, is revealed to be [[spoiler: Castiel. To put Heaven on the right track by defeating Raphael]] to keep the Apocalypse from being restarted, he has decided anything is acceptable - in this case, [[DealWithTheDevil allying with Crowley]] and opening Purgatory, the afterlife From Whence Monsters Come. The Winchester boys do their best to stop their {{Face Heel Turn}}ed ally throughout the final episodes of the season. He continues to plead for them to accept him and his choices up until he decides [[IgnoredEpiphany he doesn't care anymore]] and [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon kills his angel allies]], distracts his human allies by [[KickTheDog breaking Sam's mind]], and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking betrays Crowley]] to take all the souls' power for himself]].
** In season 12, Sam and Dean are at first impressed by how the British Men of Letters keep things safe in England with very few monster attacks, highly organized and effective. However, the brothers are thrown when they learn that the reason there hasn't been a werewolf attack in England in nearly a century is because the MOL just kill them all off. As far as the MOL are concerned, ''all'' monsters are evil and must be killed. When a teenaged girl is bitten by a wolf, Agent Mick kills her in her hospital bed on the chance she may turn. The Winchesters argue about it but Mick doesn't seem to grasp that there can be monsters who aren't that bad.

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** Sam Winchester had a few shades of it too in seasons Seasons 3 and 4 where he was reluctantly willing to sacrifice one for the good of the many.
** In season Season 6, the Big Bad of the season, to whom both [[spoiler: Crowley and Eve]] played {{Disc One Final Boss}}, is revealed to be [[spoiler: Castiel. To put Heaven on the right track by defeating Raphael]] to keep the Apocalypse from being restarted, he has decided anything is acceptable - in this case, [[DealWithTheDevil allying with Crowley]] and opening Purgatory, the afterlife From Whence Monsters Come. The Winchester boys do their best to stop their {{Face Heel Turn}}ed ally throughout the final episodes of the season. He continues to plead for them to accept him and his choices up until he decides [[IgnoredEpiphany he doesn't care anymore]] and [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon kills his angel allies]], distracts his human allies by [[KickTheDog breaking Sam's mind]], and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking betrays Crowley]] to take all the souls' power for himself]].
** In season Season 12, Sam and Dean are at first impressed by how the British Men of Letters keep things safe in England with very few monster attacks, highly organized and effective. However, the brothers are thrown when they learn that the reason there hasn't been a werewolf attack in England in nearly a century is because the MOL just kill them all off. As far as the MOL are concerned, ''all'' monsters are evil and must be killed. When a teenaged girl is bitten by a wolf, Agent Mick kills her in her hospital bed on the chance she may turn. The Winchesters argue about it but Mick doesn't seem to grasp that there can be monsters who aren't that bad.
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* ''Series/NoughtsAndCrosses'': The Liberation Militia uses methods like bombings (which kill civilians) and kidnapping relatives of government officials to fight an oppressive, racist regime which keeps the Noughts as second-class citizens living in their own land. Even some who agree with their goals find these means unacceptable.
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* ''Series/Stargirl2020'': The ISA, it turns out, doesn't want anything evil. Rather, their goal is to make a better America that works to stop climate change and has no homophobia or racism. However, they plan to do this through brainwashing millions of people, with a process that will inevitably kill 25 percent of those affected, the deaths of a percentage of their victims as a side-effect and murder of those who oppose them as well as their families.

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* ''Series/Stargirl2020'': The ISA, it turns out, doesn't want anything evil. Rather, their goal is to make a better America that works to stop climate change and has no homophobia or racism. However, they plan to do this through brainwashing millions of people, with a process that will inevitably kill 25 percent of those affected, affected; the deaths of a sizable percentage of their victims as a side-effect side-effect, and the murder of those who oppose them as (as well as their families.families) are written off as acceptable losses.
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* ''Series/Stargirl2020'': The ISA, it turns out, doesn't want anything evil. Rather, their goal is to make a better America that works to stop climate change and has no homophobia or racism. However, they plan to do this through brainwashing millions of people, with a process that will inevitably kill 25 percent of those affected.

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* ''Series/Stargirl2020'': The ISA, it turns out, doesn't want anything evil. Rather, their goal is to make a better America that works to stop climate change and has no homophobia or racism. However, they plan to do this through brainwashing millions of people, with a process that will inevitably kill 25 percent of those affected.affected, the deaths of a percentage of their victims as a side-effect and murder of those who oppose them as well as their families.
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* ''Series/Stargirl2020'': The ISA, it turns out, doesn't want anything evil. Rather, their goal is to make a better America that works to stop climate change and has no homophobia or racism. However, they plan to do this through brainwashing people.

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* ''Series/Stargirl2020'': The ISA, it turns out, doesn't want anything evil. Rather, their goal is to make a better America that works to stop climate change and has no homophobia or racism. However, they plan to do this through brainwashing people.millions of people, with a process that will inevitably kill 25 percent of those affected.
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* ''Series/BraveNewWorld'': Those in control of New London will go to any lengths to preserve the peace they have created even at the cost of a society where you ''must'' be happy, your place is non-negotiable and pills are needed to keep everyone complacent.
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** Also the Order of Byzantium from season 5. Their main goal was to destroy the key to stop Glory from using it and destroying the universe. Notably, in a later season Buffy admits to Giles that she would have let them do it if she knew then what she knows now.

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** Also the Order of Byzantium from season 5. Their main goal was to destroy the key to stop Glory from using it and destroying the universe. Notably, in a later season Buffy admits to Giles that she would have let them do it she's come to realize they were right at the time, and if she knew then what had to make a similar choice now she knows now.''would'' do it.



** Gideon, the BigBad of season 6. He believed that Wyatt, born of a Charmed One and Whitelighter, was too powerful a being to remain good, and, after learnng about a future where Wyatt did indeed turn evil, was determined to prevent that from happening. What Gideon didn't realize, however, was that it was his pursuit of Wyatt for weeks in the Underworld is what caused the boy to turn evil eventually in that future. He [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope solidified this status]] in allowing innocents to be killed to cover his tracks, and even personally killing his friend and confidant Sigmund when he left to expose Gideon's plans to the sisters. He was willing to go so far as to work with his [[MirrorUniverse Evil Mirror opposite]], which just unbalanced the world even more.

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** Gideon, the BigBad of season 6. He believed that Wyatt, born of a Charmed One and Whitelighter, was too powerful a being to remain good, and, after learnng learing about a future where Wyatt did indeed turn evil, was determined to prevent that from happening. What Gideon didn't realize, however, was that it was his pursuit of Wyatt for weeks in the Underworld is what caused the boy to turn evil eventually in that future. He [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope solidified this status]] in allowing innocents to be killed to cover his tracks, and even personally killing his friend and confidant Sigmund when he left to expose Gideon's plans to the sisters. He was willing to go so far as to work with his [[MirrorUniverse Evil Mirror opposite]], which just unbalanced the world even more.
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** Tom Zarek sees himself as this, in universe. It's the perspective of other characters that show he's more of an ego-centric power seeker.

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** Tom Zarek sees himself as this, in universe. universe, genuinely believing his goals are benevolent and just even if others don't agree with his means (such as terrorist bombings, assassinations, secret trials and executions, coup d'etats, etc). It's the perspective of other characters that show he's usually more of an ego-centric power seeker.seeker than he admits even to himself.
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* ''Series/MotherlandFortSalem'': The songs that call down storms and tornados cause environmental disaster in other places around the world; droughts, famines, disease and other similar catastrophes. The world governments are completely aware of this, they simply don't care. They think the good their power does in war makes the resulting deaths from their consequences worth it.
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* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1985'': In "The Last Defender of Camelot", Myth/{{Merlin}} seeks to place a king on the throne who will rule the world according to the principles of honor, integrity, morality and chivalry that he and Myth/KingArthur created in Camelot. However, he is willing to [[HumanSacrifice sacrifice]] Tom in order to restore his powers fully. Lancelot warns him that war has changed in the 1,000 years that he slept and there are weapons capable of destroying the entire world. Merlin ignores him, intending to do whatever is necessary to fulfil his grand design. After he kills Morgan le Fay, Lancelot tells Tom not to hate him as he was "just an old man who slept too long and dreamt too hard."
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* ''Series/CaptainPowerAndTheSoldiersOfTheFuture'': Lyman Taggart sincerely thought that humanity would be improved by becoming [[AssimilationPlot a cybernetic organism]]. After becoming [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Lord Dread]], though...
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* ''Series/{{Utopia}}'': It becomes apparent that [[TheConspiracy The Network]] wish to avert a global catastrophe by [[spoiler: [[SterilityPlague covertly sterilising 90% of the planet]]. By the end of the series, the good guys have ''[[HeWhoFightsMonsters also]]'' [[HeWhoFightsMonsters become]] [[BlackAndGreyMorality Well Intentioned Extremists]].]]

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* ''Series/{{Utopia}}'': It becomes apparent that [[TheConspiracy The Network]] wish to avert a global catastrophe by [[spoiler: [[SterilityPlague covertly sterilising 90% of the planet]]. By the end of the series, the good guys have ''[[HeWhoFightsMonsters also]]'' [[HeWhoFightsMonsters become]] [[BlackAndGreyMorality [[BlackAndGrayMorality Well Intentioned Extremists]].]]

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* ''Series/AngieTribeca'' may be a parody of cop shows, but it ends up having one in the second season with [[spoiler: Eddie Pepper and his organization, Mayhem Global. Eddie created it in order to take down Mayor Perry and his corruption. [[DeconstructedTrope However, his efforts become increasingly horrible and violent, ranging from having moles in the FBI and Perry's camp to having people kill themselves via allergies to keep his secrets. Most of his actions only ever resulted in Perry getting more support, and when he tried to assassinate him on the day of the election, Perry ended up winning instead.]] Meanwhile,Eddie ended up all alone as his cohort Diane Duran disappeared, and he got arrested and shot by Angie, who was on his side until she remembered that she had something to live for: her son.]]

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* ''Series/AngieTribeca'' may be a parody of cop shows, but it ends up having one in the second season with [[spoiler: Eddie Pepper and his organization, Mayhem Global. Eddie created it in order to take down Mayor Perry and his corruption. [[DeconstructedTrope However, his efforts become increasingly horrible and violent, ranging from having moles in the FBI and Perry's camp to having people kill themselves via allergies to keep his secrets. Most of his actions only ever resulted in Perry getting more support, and when he tried to assassinate him on the day of the election, Perry ended up winning instead.]] Meanwhile,Eddie Meanwhile, Eddie ended up all alone as his cohort Diane Duran disappeared, and he got arrested and shot by Angie, who was on his side until she remembered that she had something to live for: her son.]]



** The Judoon. In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E1SmithAndJones Smith and Jones]]", they're trying to stop a sociopathic killer. They do this by transporting an entire hospital and everyone inside it to the Moon. Ultimately, they return it as planned, but it's still an incredible risk to take with the lives of probably hundreds of innocent bystanders. [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E11TurnLeft "Turn Left"]] reveals that, if the Doctor hadn't intervened, everybody but one man in that hospital (including Martha) would have suffocated. Similarly, the book ''Judgement of the Judoon'' opens with them forcing their way into a spaceship by driving an access tunnel through the hull, in order to ask the occupants about the Invisible Assassin. On discovering that they don't know anything, the Judoon leave... and don't think twice about retracting the access tunnel to leave a gaping hole.

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** The Judoon. In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E1SmithAndJones Smith [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E1SmithAndJones "Smith and Jones]]", Jones"]], they're trying to stop a sociopathic killer. They do this by transporting an entire hospital and everyone inside it to the Moon. Ultimately, they return it as planned, but it's still an incredible risk to take with the lives of probably hundreds of innocent bystanders. [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E11TurnLeft "Turn Left"]] reveals that, if the Doctor hadn't intervened, everybody but one man in that hospital (including Martha) would have suffocated. Similarly, the book ''Judgement of the Judoon'' opens with them forcing their way into a spaceship by driving an access tunnel through the hull, in order to ask the occupants about the Invisible Assassin. On discovering that they don't know anything, the Judoon leave... and don't think twice about retracting the access tunnel to leave a gaping hole.



** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E6TheVampiresOfVenice "The Vampires of Venice"]]: Rosanna Calvierri's goal is to save her species from extinction, as well as her family, which is rather understandable and sympathetic. The means by which she goes about it, including forcibly converting unwilling humans into her species, killing people who find out, and planning to sink Venice, which will kill all of the humans there, are what make her villainous.



** In the spin-off ''Creator/BigFinish'' audio series ''Doom Coalition'', this arguably applies to the villain [[spoiler:Padrac and his titular 'Doom Coalition']]; their final objective is [[spoiler:to save Gallifrey from the destruction that Padrac has predicted will inevitably strike them at some future date, which the Doctor can agree with in principle, but Padrac has concluded that the only way to guarantee Gallifrey's safety is to destroy ''every other planet in the universe'', which the Doctor is less inclined to agree with]].

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** In the spin-off ''Creator/BigFinish'' audio series ''Doom Coalition'', this arguably applies to the villain [[spoiler:Padrac and his titular 'Doom Coalition']]; "Doom Coalition"]]; their final objective is [[spoiler:to save Gallifrey from the destruction that Padrac has predicted will inevitably strike them at some future date, which the Doctor can agree with in principle, but Padrac has concluded that the only way to guarantee Gallifrey's safety is to destroy ''every other planet in the universe'', which the Doctor is less inclined to agree with]].



-->'''Michael''': Who ''are'' you people?
-->'''"Henry Gale"''': We're the good guys, Michael.

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-->'''Michael''': --->'''Michael''': Who ''are'' you people?
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'''"Henry
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