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#. Silver is an alien and therefore is unlikely to be able to interbreed with humans.
#. There was a whole montage of Jim and Silver bonding. It's entirely possible he told Silver about his mom during that montage. Furthermore, there is no possible way that Jim's dad from the flashback(s) and Silver are the same person.

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#. # Silver is an alien and therefore is unlikely to be able to interbreed with humans.
#. # There was a whole montage of Jim and Silver bonding. It's entirely possible he told Silver about his mom during that montage. Furthermore, there is no possible way that Jim's dad from the flashback(s) and Silver are the same person.
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1. Silver is an alien and therefore is unlikely to be able to interbreed with humans.
2. There was a whole montage of Jim and Silver bonding. It's entirely possible he told Silver about his mom during that montage. Furthermore, there is no possible way that Jim's dad from the flashback(s) and Silver are the same person.

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1.#. Silver is an alien and therefore is unlikely to be able to interbreed with humans.
2.#. There was a whole montage of Jim and Silver bonding. It's entirely possible he told Silver about his mom during that montage. Furthermore, there is no possible way that Jim's dad from the flashback(s) and Silver are the same person.

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I want to keep this short, so I will cut to the evidence: the ship with Billy Bones in it just ''happens'' to land near Jim's tavern. Not very much proof, but why did Bones choose that area in the first place? Did he happen to know "the cyborg" had family there? Jim and Silver are both looking for Treasure Planet. Maybe Jim's father taught Jim about the Planet? That may explain the story book. Silver also almost immediately grows attached to Jim and coaches him during Cabin Boy duties. On a ship, the chef and the cabin boy don't have any attachment as far as I know. How does he grow so attached to him? The only other friend of Silver is Morph, who also grows attached to Jim.

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I want to Paraphrased from [[https://old.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/22ds3r/treasure_planet_silver_is_jim_hawkins_biological/ a fan theory on Reddit]]:

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keep this short, so I will short and cut to the evidence: the ship with Billy Bones in it just ''happens'' to land near Jim's tavern. Not very much proof, but why did Bones choose that area in the first place? Did he happen to know "the cyborg" had family there? Jim and Silver are both looking for Treasure Planet. Maybe Jim's father taught Jim about the Planet? That may explain the story book. Silver also almost immediately grows attached to Jim and coaches him during Cabin Boy duties. On a ship, the chef and the cabin boy don't have any attachment as far as I know.anyone knows. How does he grow so attached to him? The only other friend of Silver is Morph, who also grows attached to Jim.



Finally, during the scene where Silver and Jim say their last goodbyes, Silver gives Jim Morph, but most strangely (to me), he gives him a bunch of treasure from Treasure Planet and says "Oh, this is for yer mum, to rebuild that inn of hers!" This is one of the stronger supporters, as he didn't encounter Jim and his mom at their tavern, so how would he know his mom owns it and that he was connected to the destroyed tavern? The map, maybe, but that doesn't explain how he knows his MOM owns it and not another family member like a uncle, sibling, etc.

I hope you guys at reddit like my theory, as I didn't find any other people with it"
-->-- A reddit user.
* Two things: 1. Silver is an alien and therefore is unlikely to be able to interbreed with humans. 2. There was a whole montage of Jim and Silver bonding. It's entirely possible he told Silver about his mom during that montage. Furthermore, there is no possible way that Jim's dad from the flashback(s) and Silver are the same person.

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Finally, during the scene where Silver and Jim say their last goodbyes, Silver gives Jim Morph, but most strangely (to me), strangely, he gives him a bunch of treasure from Treasure Planet and says "Oh, this is for yer mum, to rebuild that inn of hers!" This is one of the stronger supporters, as he didn't encounter Jim and his mom at their tavern, so how would he know his mom owns it and that he was connected to the destroyed tavern? The map, maybe, but that doesn't explain how he knows his MOM owns it and not another family member like a uncle, sibling, etc.

I hope you guys at reddit like my theory, as I didn't find any other people with it"
-->-- A reddit user.
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* Two things: things:
1. Silver is an alien and therefore is unlikely to be able to interbreed with humans. humans.
2. There was a whole montage of Jim and Silver bonding. It's entirely possible he told Silver about his mom during that montage. Furthermore, there is no possible way that Jim's dad from the flashback(s) and Silver are the same person.



* Again I must ask, Doesn't the tech in each respective universe seem too different to be from the same universe? I think it would make more sense for Titan A.E. and Mass Effect to take place in the same universe. Heck, doesn't Chowkin look like a Mass Effect character?

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* Again I must ask, asking, Doesn't the tech in each respective universe seem too different to be from the same universe? I think it It would make more sense for Titan A.E. and Mass Effect to take place in the same universe. Heck, doesn't Chowkin look like a Mass Effect character?



...Hm. I've just written a messy outline for a fanfic, haven't I?
** Oh hell yes. Permission to use, given time to finish what I've got?



** Tell me, good sir, have you ever heard of a thing called "Spaghettification"? Yes, that's an actual, technical term in science. You see, near a black hole, the gravity gets so strong so quickly that it's significantly heavier closer to the black hole than further away. The result is that anyone who is entering a black hole WILL BE STRETCHED APART BY TIDAL FORCES. Nobody deserves that fate. DEFINITELY not somebody as awesome as Mr. Arrow. Face it, Scroop was a terrible being. Also, remember that he tried to kill Jim just for talking back.

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** Tell me, Pray, good sir, have you ever heard of a thing called "Spaghettification"? Yes, that's an actual, technical term in science. You see, near a black hole, the gravity gets so strong so quickly that it's significantly heavier closer to the black hole than further away. The result is that anyone who is entering a black hole WILL BE STRETCHED APART BY TIDAL FORCES. Nobody deserves that fate. DEFINITELY not somebody as awesome as Mr. Arrow. Face it, Scroop was a terrible being. Also, remember that he tried to kill Jim just for talking back.



* All of the pirates? This troper remembers John Silver being the only pirate that tries to open it, and the reason why he can't is likely due to his cyborg arm. Also, Doppler never once tried to figure out. He merely mentioned that it would probably take him years and years to figure it out.

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* All of the pirates? This troper remembers John Silver being is the only pirate that tries to open it, and the reason why he can't is likely due to his cyborg arm. Also, Doppler never once tried to figure out. He merely mentioned that it would probably take him years and years to figure it out.



Okay, hear me out on this crazy one! XD It kinda hit me like a ton of bricks and now I can't unsee it.



* According to the creators Silver is supposed to be a bear-like alien similar to how Delbert and Amelia resemble dogs and cats, respectively. That would explain the claws and ear. Speaking of which, I'm not sure I want to know how he lost the other one.

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* According to the creators Silver is supposed to be a bear-like alien similar to how Delbert and Amelia resemble dogs and cats, respectively. That would explain the claws and ear. Speaking of which, I'm not sure I want to know it's anyone's guess on how he lost the other one.



* The lyrics in I'm Still Here can very much be hinting towards Jim's identity and how he percieves the world's attitude towards him based on that. Some would say that it's just a song about generic teenage angst, but combined with the above points it makes me think it means something more:

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* The lyrics in I'm "I'm Still Here Here" can very much be hinting towards Jim's identity and how he percieves the world's attitude towards him based on that. Some would say that it's just a song about generic teenage angst, but combined with the above points it makes me think it means could mean something more:



Well it IS called an Inn, so it does presumably have rooms for guests to stay in. However, we see pretty much no people or any mention of them after the time-skip from the morning's busy breakfast. Even if everyone had gone to bed then (it seems remarkably early for people to be asleep to this troper- probably 6 to 8-ish going by the light at the beginning of the scene but that might be [[BuffySpeak weird planet rotation science]]) certainly there would've been SOME kind of crowd escaping when the pirates attack, but there's none. So this leads to a guess that the Benbow Inn is treated as more of a restaurant; people come and eat and rest a bit, but don't really stay the night.

And before someone points out that there could have been [[FridgeHorror people unable to escape the fire]] rather than there being no people at all... Well I prefer this as an alternative given Jim and Doppler's troubled, but not deeply troubled or stunned, reactions to the inn burning down.

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Well it IS called an Inn, so it does presumably have rooms for guests to stay in. However, we see pretty much no people or any mention of them after the time-skip from the morning's busy breakfast. Even if everyone had gone to bed then (it seems remarkably early for people to be asleep to this troper- probably 6 to 8-ish to, likely young children, going by the light at the beginning of the scene but that might be [[BuffySpeak weird planet rotation science]]) certainly there would've been SOME kind of crowd escaping when the pirates attack, but there's none. So this leads to a guess that the Benbow Inn is treated as more of a restaurant; people come and eat and rest a bit, but don't really stay the night.

And before someone points out that there could have been [[FridgeHorror people unable to escape the fire]] rather than there being no people at all... Well I prefer preferring this as an alternative given Jim and Doppler's troubled, but not deeply troubled or stunned, reactions to the inn burning down.



Though it may be out there, my proposal is this: The Ancient Culture that created Treasure Planet actually created it for an entirely different purpose than the one it serves in the movie. They created the planet as one of many "Terraforming Planets", meant to pump out a thick, viscous, but breathable atmosphere into space and contain it with a powerful forcefield, essentially creating a gas giant planet the size of the Milky Way, with its own ecosystems, solar systems within itself, planets inside this planet, and breathable air in a low gravity environment. This "airless void" that the Wiki speaks of is nothing more than outer space.

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Though it may be out there, my the proposal is this: The Ancient Culture that created Treasure Planet actually created it for an entirely different purpose than the one it serves in the movie. They created the planet as one of many "Terraforming Planets", meant to pump out a thick, viscous, but breathable atmosphere into space and contain it with a powerful forcefield, essentially creating a gas giant planet the size of the Milky Way, with its own ecosystems, solar systems within itself, planets inside this planet, and breathable air in a low gravity environment. This "airless void" that the Wiki speaks of is nothing more than outer space.



I have nothing to back this up, but it'd be the perfect irony if his father left on a treasure hunt to give his family a better life, exactly like his son would end up doing.

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I have There's nothing to back this up, but it'd be the perfect irony if his father left on a treasure hunt to give his family a better life, exactly like his son would end up doing.
doing.

[[WMG: Jim's father died while looking for Treasure Planet.]]
A supplement from the above, but with deeper reprocussions for Jim.
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[[WMG: Jim's father went looking for Treasure Planet.]]
I have nothing to back this up, but it'd be the perfect irony if his father left on a treasure hunt to give his family a better life, exactly like his son would end up doing.
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* This could be a few thousand years after ''Mass Effect 3'', more specifically [[spoiler: the destroy ending with a very low EMS rating, which results in the Mass Relays and the Citadel being destroyed. Without mass effect technology, the new races in the galaxy would have to develop their own methods of traveling across the cosmos. The humans in ''Treasure Planet'' could be descendants of the few surviving humans at the end of ME3, which could also explain why humans appear to be a minority in this universe.]]

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* This could be a few thousand years after ''Mass Effect 3'', more specifically [[spoiler: the destroy ending with a very low EMS rating, which results in the Mass Relays and the Citadel being destroyed. Without mass effect technology, the new races in the galaxy would have to develop their own methods of traveling across the cosmos. The humans in ''Treasure Planet'' could be descendants of the few surviving humans at the end of ME3, [=ME3=], which could also explain why humans appear to be a minority in this universe.]]



It makes sense: Envy could be Morph's EvilTwin in a [[AlternateUniverse different world]]. Both are ShapeShifters and both have at least ''worked for'' the bad guy (in Morph's case, it was Silver). Then there's [[spoiler:Envy's true form, or [[FanNickName Fetus!Envy]], which happens to bear a little resemblence to Morph.]]

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It makes sense: Envy could be Morph's EvilTwin in a [[AlternateUniverse different world]]. Both are ShapeShifters [[{{Shapeshifting}} shapeshifters]] and both have at least ''worked for'' the bad guy (in Morph's case, it was Silver). Then there's [[spoiler:Envy's true form, or [[FanNickName Fetus!Envy]], which happens to bear a little resemblence to Morph.]]



In TheVerse of Treasure Planet, however, the existence of aether was proved instead, hence how SpaceIsAnOcean complete with SpaceWhales, BatmanCanBreatheInSpace, and sailboats.

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In TheVerse of Treasure Planet, however, the existence of aether was proved instead, hence how SpaceIsAnOcean complete with SpaceWhales, {{Space Whale}}s, BatmanCanBreatheInSpace, and sailboats.
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* This could be a few thousand years after ''Mass Effect 3'', more specifically [[spoiler: the destroy ending with a very low EMS rating, which results in the Mass Relays and the Citadel being destroyed. Without mass effect technology, the new races in the galaxy would have to develop their own methods of traveling across the cosmos. The humans in Treasure Planet could be descendants of the few surviving humans at the end of ME3, which could also explain why humans appear to be a minority in this universe.]]

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* This could be a few thousand years after ''Mass Effect 3'', more specifically [[spoiler: the destroy ending with a very low EMS rating, which results in the Mass Relays and the Citadel being destroyed. Without mass effect technology, the new races in the galaxy would have to develop their own methods of traveling across the cosmos. The humans in Treasure Planet ''Treasure Planet'' could be descendants of the few surviving humans at the end of ME3, which could also explain why humans appear to be a minority in this universe.]]
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* This could be a few thousand years after ''Mass Effect 3'', more specifically [[spoiler: the destroy ending with a very low EMS rating, which results in the Mass Relays and the Citadel being destroyed. Without mass effect technology, the new races in the galaxy would have to develop their own methods of traveling across the cosmos. The humans in Treasure Planet could be descendants of the few surviving humans at the end of ME3, which could also explain why humans appear to be a minority in this universe.]]
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** That or it was the off-season for any tourists or travelers. The people being seen again at the end and Mrs. Hawkins' knowing more than a few names implies that these were locals and/or regulars.
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[[spoiler: For Amelia's daughters, the couple might've went with a family theme naming for them. Like their mother, the girls would name after some great and historical women in history that match what they would like to do one day. As for the couple's only son, Amelia and Delbert went with DeadGuyJunior name; they would've named their son after Captain Amelia's best friend and NumberTwo, Mr. Arrow, whatever his first name was.]]

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[[spoiler: For Amelia's daughters, the couple might've went with a family theme naming for them. Like their mother, the girls would name after some great and historical women in history that match what they would like to do one day. As for the couple's only son, Amelia and Delbert went with DeadGuyJunior name; they would've named their son after Captain Amelia's best friend and NumberTwo, Mr. Arrow, whatever his first name was.]]
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* Maybe ''WesternAnimation/TitanAE'' is the ''WesternAnimation/TreasurePlanet'' universe TwentyMinutesInTheFuture?

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* Maybe ''WesternAnimation/TitanAE'' is the ''WesternAnimation/TreasurePlanet'' universe TwentyMinutesInTheFuture?
TwentyMinutesInTheFuture (or alternatively ''Treasure Planet'' is the future and the tech level regressed somehow in between the two films)?
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* Maybe ''WesternAnimation/TitanAE'' is the ''WesternAnimation/TreasurePlanet'' universe TwentyMinutesInTheFuture?
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[[WMG:In this universe SpaceAir exists.]]

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[[WMG:In this universe SpaceAir exists.]][[BatmanCanBreatheInSpace there's air in space.]]]]

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