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The Djinn and other creatures existed before humanity and were pissed of about the talking monkeys having the blessing of Gaia, so they attacked them. In their defense, Gaia created the Bees and Lilith was one of their first Chosen, with Cucuvea as another one, but the battles traumaticed her and eventually killed Cucuvea's sister, a common mortal, because of PST. Following this she had to escape, furious with Gaia and everyone for among other things made her unable to die, and found the Host.
Samael met her and decided that having a Bee as a bodyguard and helper was not a bad idea, with her being distracted by his good looks and the plan of the Nephelim to create a New Gaia using the Dreamers. Eventually they took a RelationshipUpgrade and Samael betrayed the Nephelim, making them lost the war as the First Age was destroyed around them.
Samael met her and decided that having a Bee as a bodyguard and helper was not a bad idea, with her being distracted by his good looks and the plan of the Nephelim to create a New Gaia using the Dreamers. Eventually they took a RelationshipUpgrade and Samael betrayed the Nephelim, making them lost the war as the First Age was destroyed around them.
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The Djinn and other creatures existed before humanity and were pissed of ofF about the talking monkeys having the blessing of Gaia, so they attacked them. In their defense, Gaia created the Bees and Lilith was one of their first Chosen, with Cucuvea as another one, but the battles traumaticed her and eventually killed Cucuvea's sister, a common mortal, because of PST. Following this she had to escape, furious with Gaia and everyone for among other things made her unable to die, and found the Host.
Samael met her and decided that having a Bee asa bodyguard and helper was not a bad idea, with her being distracted by his good looks and the plan of the Nephelim to create a New Gaia using the Dreamers. Eventually they took a RelationshipUpgrade and Samael betrayed the Nephelim, making them lost the war as the First Age was destroyed around them.
Samael met her and decided that having a Bee as
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Considering that A)She is inmortal; B)She can travel to Agartha without problems; C)Her attacks during the fight against the minions of the Black Signal are very similar to the ones the player character does; D)Her obvious resistance to the Filth; and D)Her absolute betrayed look whem Emma choses the player character and the rage and sadness she shows when talking about her relationship with Samael, this story seem likely. The sad thing? If she had follow her husband sugestion and just rule the world using Orochi the events of the game would likely never happened and the two would be still happily married.
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Considering that A)She is inmortal; B)She can travel to Agartha without problems; C)Her attacks during the fight against the minions of the Black Signal are very similar to the ones the player character does; D)Her obvious resistance to the Filth; and D)Her absolute betrayed look whem Emma choses the player character and the rage and sadness she shows when talking about her relationship with Samael, this story seem likely. The sad thing? If she had follow her husband sugestion and just rule the world using Orochi the events of the game would likely never happened and the two would be still happily married.married.
[[WMG: H.P.Lovecraft knew about the Secret World]]
It's just that everything he knew was very parcial and second-handed. The Deep Ones and the Ak'ab are just like he described them, but likely he didn't know about the Mayan involvement. He also knew about a city on Antartica and the Ur-Draugr, the Wendigos and Akenaten, but in a very vague sense. It's confirmed that he was in the Frankling Mansion and likely was a witness of somo genuine hauntings, but obviously he was not a member of any of the secret societies and didn't know many truths about the world, just enough to make a broken puzzle that let him know about previous Ages in a very fragmented manner. Hey, he said that most of his tales were based on his nightmares. What if he contacted by chance with the Dreamers and get his knowledge at 3AM? That and pure ignorance about the world would explain many things...
[[WMG: H.P.Lovecraft knew about the Secret World]]
It's just that everything he knew was very parcial and second-handed. The Deep Ones and the Ak'ab are just like he described them, but likely he didn't know about the Mayan involvement. He also knew about a city on Antartica and the Ur-Draugr, the Wendigos and Akenaten, but in a very vague sense. It's confirmed that he was in the Frankling Mansion and likely was a witness of somo genuine hauntings, but obviously he was not a member of any of the secret societies and didn't know many truths about the world, just enough to make a broken puzzle that let him know about previous Ages in a very fragmented manner. Hey, he said that most of his tales were based on his nightmares. What if he contacted by chance with the Dreamers and get his knowledge at 3AM? That and pure ignorance about the world would explain many things...
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Samael meet her and decided that having a Bee as a bodyguard and helper was not a bad idea, with her being distracted by his good looks and the plan of the Nephelim to create a New Gaia usisng the Dreamers. Eventually they take a RelationshipUpgrade and Samael betrayed the Nephelim, making them lost the war as the First Age was destroyed around them.
During the next Ages they continued researching how to harness the Dreamers power and creating monsters, most of them being considered failures, until the end of the Third Age. Watching how Lilith's arrogance nearly cost the end of Gaia, Samael realiced that they must guide humanity to a point where they will be able to at least imitate First Age Tecnology to repair or even create Gaia Engines. However, Lilith was blinded by her need of revenge over Gaia, what strained their relationship. It's only then when Lilith began to take other lovers like Mozart and the brothers of Babel along with experimenting and creating cults like the Sol Invictus, still believing she has a chance of controlling the Dreamers to have her revenge.
Considering that A)She is inmortal; B)She can travel to Agartha without problems; C)Her attacks during the fight against the minions of the Black Signal are very similar to the ones the player character does; and D)Her absolute betrayaed look whem Emma choses the player character and the rage and sadness she shows when talking about her relationship with Samael, this story seem likely. The sad thing? If she had follow her husband sugestion and just rule the world using Orochi the events of the game would likely never happened and the two would be still happily married.
During the next Ages they continued researching how to harness the Dreamers power and creating monsters, most of them being considered failures, until the end of the Third Age. Watching how Lilith's arrogance nearly cost the end of Gaia, Samael realiced that they must guide humanity to a point where they will be able to at least imitate First Age Tecnology to repair or even create Gaia Engines. However, Lilith was blinded by her need of revenge over Gaia, what strained their relationship. It's only then when Lilith began to take other lovers like Mozart and the brothers of Babel along with experimenting and creating cults like the Sol Invictus, still believing she has a chance of controlling the Dreamers to have her revenge.
Considering that A)She is inmortal; B)She can travel to Agartha without problems; C)Her attacks during the fight against the minions of the Black Signal are very similar to the ones the player character does; and D)Her absolute betrayaed look whem Emma choses the player character and the rage and sadness she shows when talking about her relationship with Samael, this story seem likely. The sad thing? If she had follow her husband sugestion and just rule the world using Orochi the events of the game would likely never happened and the two would be still happily married.
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Samael meet met her and decided that having a Bee as a bodyguard and helper was not a bad idea, with her being distracted by his good looks and the plan of the Nephelim to create a New Gaia usisng using the Dreamers. Eventually they take took a RelationshipUpgrade and Samael betrayed the Nephelim, making them lost the war as the First Age was destroyed around them.
During the next Ages they continued researching how to harness the Dreamers power and creating monsters, most of them being considered failures, until the end of the Third Age. Watching how Lilith's arrogance nearly cost the end of Gaia, Samael realiced that they must guide humanity to a point where they will be able to at least imitate First Age Tecnology to repair or even create Gaia Engines. However, Lilith was blinded by her need of revenge overGaia, what Gaia and that strained their relationship. It's only then when Lilith began to take other lovers like Mozart and the brothers of Babel along with experimenting and creating cults like Sol Invictus and the Sol Invictus, Deathless, still believing she has a chance of controlling the Dreamers to have her revenge.
Considering that A)She is inmortal; B)She can travel to Agartha without problems; C)Her attacks during the fight against the minions of the Black Signal are very similar to the ones the player character does; D)Her obvious resistance to the Filth; and D)Her absolutebetrayaed betrayed look whem Emma choses the player character and the rage and sadness she shows when talking about her relationship with Samael, this story seem likely. The sad thing? If she had follow her husband sugestion and just rule the world using Orochi the events of the game would likely never happened and the two would be still happily married.
During the next Ages they continued researching how to harness the Dreamers power and creating monsters, most of them being considered failures, until the end of the Third Age. Watching how Lilith's arrogance nearly cost the end of Gaia, Samael realiced that they must guide humanity to a point where they will be able to at least imitate First Age Tecnology to repair or even create Gaia Engines. However, Lilith was blinded by her need of revenge over
Considering that A)She is inmortal; B)She can travel to Agartha without problems; C)Her attacks during the fight against the minions of the Black Signal are very similar to the ones the player character does; D)Her obvious resistance to the Filth; and D)Her absolute
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In Shamain 2012 Event the final boss is a antropomorphic cat called Irusan who rules over a pack of werewolves and is considered another Werewolf as type of enemy. This makes no sense...until you remember that werewolves[[spoiler:only have that form because millenia of folklore makes them believe it's their only form and the experimented children on his laboratory had other animal shapes because they weren't that limited]]. Obviously, considering his use of clothes and magic, he must be very old and had pass the 50 years required to become calmer again. Also, many places that didn't have wolves have oral traditions about werejaguars, werebears, weresharks, werespiders and more. In the Secret World they may be accounts of local werewolves taking shapes in imitation of sacred and/or local animals.[[spoiler:Of course, since Lilith didn't even think very high about her creations is possible that she was unaware of this until Schreber experiments and the Nephilim capturing her made her unable to use this, since she would be using that hability to create different specialised forms of werewolves for her, and likely Samael, army Ages ago.]]
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In Shamain 2012 Event the final boss is a an antropomorphic cat called Irusan who rules over a pack of werewolves and is considered another Werewolf as type of enemy. This makes no sense...until you remember that werewolves[[spoiler:only have that form because millenia of folklore makes them believe it's their only form and the experimented children on his laboratory had other animal shapes because they weren't that limited]]. Obviously, considering his use of clothes and magic, he must be very old and had pass the 50 years required to become calmer again. Also, many places that didn't have wolves have oral traditions about werejaguars, werebears, weresharks, werespiders and more. In the Secret World they may be accounts of local werewolves taking shapes in imitation of sacred and/or local animals.[[spoiler:Of course, since Lilith didn't even think very high about her creations is possible that she was unaware of this until Schreber experiments and the Nephilim capturing her made her unable to use this, since she would be using that hability to create different specialised forms of werewolves for her, and likely Samael, army Ages ago.]]
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Samael meet her and decided that having a Bee as a bodyguard and helper was not a bad idea, with her being distracted by his good looks and the plan of the Nephelim to create a New Gaia usisng the Dreamers. Eventually they take a RelationshipUpgrade and Samael betrayed the Nephelim, making them lost the war as the First Age was destroyed arround them.
During the next Ages they continued researching how to harness the Dreamers power and creating monsters, most of them being considered failures, until the end of the Third Age. Watching how Lilith's arrogance nearly cost the end of Gaia, Samael realiced that they must guide humanity to a point where they will be able to at least imitate First Age Tecnology to repair or even create Gaia Engines. However, Lilith was blinded by her need of revenge over Gaia, what strained their relationship. It's only then when Lilith began to take other lovers like Mozart and the brothers of Babel along with experimenting and creating cults like the Sol Invictus, still believing she has a chace of controlling the Dreamers to have her revenge.
Considering that A)She is inmortal; B)She can travel to Agartha without problems; C)Her attacks during the fight against the minions of the Black Signal are very similar to the ones the player character does; and D)Her absolute look of betrayal whem Emma choses the player character and the rage and sadness she shows when talking about her relationship with Samael, this story seem likely. The sad thing? If she had follow her husband suggestion and just rule the world using Orochi the events of the game would likely never happened and the two would be still happily married.
During the next Ages they continued researching how to harness the Dreamers power and creating monsters, most of them being considered failures, until the end of the Third Age. Watching how Lilith's arrogance nearly cost the end of Gaia, Samael realiced that they must guide humanity to a point where they will be able to at least imitate First Age Tecnology to repair or even create Gaia Engines. However, Lilith was blinded by her need of revenge over Gaia, what strained their relationship. It's only then when Lilith began to take other lovers like Mozart and the brothers of Babel along with experimenting and creating cults like the Sol Invictus, still believing she has a chace of controlling the Dreamers to have her revenge.
Considering that A)She is inmortal; B)She can travel to Agartha without problems; C)Her attacks during the fight against the minions of the Black Signal are very similar to the ones the player character does; and D)Her absolute look of betrayal whem Emma choses the player character and the rage and sadness she shows when talking about her relationship with Samael, this story seem likely. The sad thing? If she had follow her husband suggestion and just rule the world using Orochi the events of the game would likely never happened and the two would be still happily married.
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Samael meet her and decided that having a Bee as a bodyguard and helper was not a bad idea, with her being distracted by his good looks and the plan of the Nephelim to create a New Gaia usisng the Dreamers. Eventually they take a RelationshipUpgrade and Samael betrayed the Nephelim, making them lost the war as the First Age was destroyed arround around them.
During the next Ages they continued researching how to harness the Dreamers power and creating monsters, most of them being considered failures, until the end of the Third Age. Watching how Lilith's arrogance nearly cost the end of Gaia, Samael realiced that they must guide humanity to a point where they will be able to at least imitate First Age Tecnology to repair or even create Gaia Engines. However, Lilith was blinded by her need of revenge over Gaia, what strained their relationship. It's only then when Lilith began to take other lovers like Mozart and the brothers of Babel along with experimenting and creating cults like the Sol Invictus, still believing she has achace chance of controlling the Dreamers to have her revenge.
Considering that A)She is inmortal; B)She can travel to Agartha without problems; C)Her attacks during the fight against the minions of the Black Signal are very similar to the ones the player character does; and D)Her absolute betrayaed lookof betrayal whem Emma choses the player character and the rage and sadness she shows when talking about her relationship with Samael, this story seem likely. The sad thing? If she had follow her husband suggestion sugestion and just rule the world using Orochi the events of the game would likely never happened and the two would be still happily married.
During the next Ages they continued researching how to harness the Dreamers power and creating monsters, most of them being considered failures, until the end of the Third Age. Watching how Lilith's arrogance nearly cost the end of Gaia, Samael realiced that they must guide humanity to a point where they will be able to at least imitate First Age Tecnology to repair or even create Gaia Engines. However, Lilith was blinded by her need of revenge over Gaia, what strained their relationship. It's only then when Lilith began to take other lovers like Mozart and the brothers of Babel along with experimenting and creating cults like the Sol Invictus, still believing she has a
Considering that A)She is inmortal; B)She can travel to Agartha without problems; C)Her attacks during the fight against the minions of the Black Signal are very similar to the ones the player character does; and D)Her absolute betrayaed look
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During the next Ages they continued researching how to harness the Dreamers power and creating monsters, most of them being considered failures, until the end of the Third Age
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During the next Ages they continued researching how to harness the Dreamers power and creating monsters, most of them being considered failures, until the end of the Third AgeAge. Watching how Lilith's arrogance nearly cost the end of Gaia, Samael realiced that they must guide humanity to a point where they will be able to at least imitate First Age Tecnology to repair or even create Gaia Engines. However, Lilith was blinded by her need of revenge over Gaia, what strained their relationship. It's only then when Lilith began to take other lovers like Mozart and the brothers of Babel along with experimenting and creating cults like the Sol Invictus, still believing she has a chace of controlling the Dreamers to have her revenge.
Considering that A)She is inmortal; B)She can travel to Agartha without problems; C)Her attacks during the fight against the minions of the Black Signal are very similar to the ones the player character does; and D)Her absolute look of betrayal whem Emma choses the player character and the rage and sadness she shows when talking about her relationship with Samael, this story seem likely. The sad thing? If she had follow her husband suggestion and just rule the world using Orochi the events of the game would likely never happened and the two would be still happily married.
Considering that A)She is inmortal; B)She can travel to Agartha without problems; C)Her attacks during the fight against the minions of the Black Signal are very similar to the ones the player character does; and D)Her absolute look of betrayal whem Emma choses the player character and the rage and sadness she shows when talking about her relationship with Samael, this story seem likely. The sad thing? If she had follow her husband suggestion and just rule the world using Orochi the events of the game would likely never happened and the two would be still happily married.
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In Shamain 2012 Event the final boss is a antropomorphic cat called Irusan who rules over a pack of werewolves and is considered another Werewolf as type of enemy. This makes no sense...until you remember that werewolves[[spoiler:only have that form because millenia of folklore makes them believe it's their only form and the experimented children on his laboratory had other animal shapes because they weren't that limited]]. Obviously, considering his use of clothes and magic, he must be very old and had pass the 50 years required to become calmer again. Also, many places that didn't have wolves have oral traditions about werejaguars, werebears, weresharks, werespiders and more. In the Secret World they may be accounts of local werewolves taking shapes in imitation of sacred and/or local animals.[[spoiler:Of course, since Lilith didn't even think very high about her creations is possible that she was unaware of this until Schreber experiments and the Nephilim capturing her made her unable to use this, since she would be using that hability to create different specialised forms of werewolves for her, and likely Samael, army Ages ago.]]
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In Shamain 2012 Event the final boss is a antropomorphic cat called Irusan who rules over a pack of werewolves and is considered another Werewolf as type of enemy. This makes no sense...until you remember that werewolves[[spoiler:only have that form because millenia of folklore makes them believe it's their only form and the experimented children on his laboratory had other animal shapes because they weren't that limited]]. Obviously, considering his use of clothes and magic, he must be very old and had pass the 50 years required to become calmer again. Also, many places that didn't have wolves have oral traditions about werejaguars, werebears, weresharks, werespiders and more. In the Secret World they may be accounts of local werewolves taking shapes in imitation of sacred and/or local animals.[[spoiler:Of course, since Lilith didn't even think very high about her creations is possible that she was unaware of this until Schreber experiments and the Nephilim capturing her made her unable to use this, since she would be using that hability to create different specialised forms of werewolves for her, and likely Samael, army Ages ago.]]]]
[[WMG: Lilith was not a common human woman in the First Age, but a [[FallenHero Bee]]]]
The Djinn and other creatures existed before humanity and were pissed of about the talking monkeys having the blessing of Gaia, so they attacked them. In their defense, Gaia created the Bees and Lilith was one of their first Chosen, with Cucuvea as another one, but the battles traumaticed her and eventually killed Cucuvea's sister, a common mortal, because of PST. Following this she had to escape, furious with Gaia and everyone for among other things made her unable to die, and found the Host.
Samael meet her and decided that having a Bee as a bodyguard and helper was not a bad idea, with her being distracted by his good looks and the plan of the Nephelim to create a New Gaia usisng the Dreamers. Eventually they take a RelationshipUpgrade and Samael betrayed the Nephelim, making them lost the war as the First Age was destroyed arround them.
During the next Ages they continued researching how to harness the Dreamers power and creating monsters, most of them being considered failures, until the end of the Third Age
[[WMG: Lilith was not a common human woman in the First Age, but a [[FallenHero Bee]]]]
The Djinn and other creatures existed before humanity and were pissed of about the talking monkeys having the blessing of Gaia, so they attacked them. In their defense, Gaia created the Bees and Lilith was one of their first Chosen, with Cucuvea as another one, but the battles traumaticed her and eventually killed Cucuvea's sister, a common mortal, because of PST. Following this she had to escape, furious with Gaia and everyone for among other things made her unable to die, and found the Host.
Samael meet her and decided that having a Bee as a bodyguard and helper was not a bad idea, with her being distracted by his good looks and the plan of the Nephelim to create a New Gaia usisng the Dreamers. Eventually they take a RelationshipUpgrade and Samael betrayed the Nephelim, making them lost the war as the First Age was destroyed arround them.
During the next Ages they continued researching how to harness the Dreamers power and creating monsters, most of them being considered failures, until the end of the Third Age
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In Shamain 2012 Event the final boss is a antropomorphic cat called Irusan who rules over a pack of werewolves and is considered another Werewolf as type of enemy. This makes no sense...until you remember that werewolves[[spoiler:only have that form because millenia of folklore makes them believe thas their form and the experimented children on his laboratory have shapes of other animals because they are not that limited]]. Obviously, considering that he uses clothes and magic, he must be very old and had pass the 50 years required to become calmer again. Also, many places that didn't have wolves have oral traditions about werejaguars, werebears, weresharks, werespiders and more. In the Secret World they may be accounts of local werewolves taking a form according to the animals around them.[[spoiler:Of course, since Lilith didn't even think very high about her creations is possible that she was unaware of this until Schreber experiments and the Nephilim capturing her made her unable to use this, since she would be using that hability to create different specialised forms of werewolves for her, and likely Samael, army Ages ago.]]
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In Shamain 2012 Event the final boss is a antropomorphic cat called Irusan who rules over a pack of werewolves and is considered another Werewolf as type of enemy. This makes no sense...until you remember that werewolves[[spoiler:only have that form because millenia of folklore makes them believe thas it's their only form and the experimented children on his laboratory have had other animal shapes of other animals because they are not weren't that limited]]. Obviously, considering that he uses his use of clothes and magic, he must be very old and had pass the 50 years required to become calmer again. Also, many places that didn't have wolves have oral traditions about werejaguars, werebears, weresharks, werespiders and more. In the Secret World they may be accounts of local werewolves taking a form according to the animals around them.shapes in imitation of sacred and/or local animals.[[spoiler:Of course, since Lilith didn't even think very high about her creations is possible that she was unaware of this until Schreber experiments and the Nephilim capturing her made her unable to use this, since she would be using that hability to create different specialised forms of werewolves for her, and likely Samael, army Ages ago.]]
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* [[spoiler: CONFIRMED: Buzzing Lore indicates that the end of the Third Age was so bad that Gaia had to do a CosmicRetcon to repair the damage made by the Dreamers. Worse, it's stated that the Gaia Engines had to do that previously and, giving the strain that work makes on the Engines, it's unlikely that it would work again. What this means? If a single Dreamer manages to awake GAME.OVER.]]
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[[WMG: Dr. Scheber is[[spoiler:NOT the first one to discover how a werewolf transformation works]] ]]
In Shamain 2012 Event the final boss is a antropomorphic cat called Irusan who rules over a pack of werewolves and is considered another Werewolf as type of enemy. This makes no sense...until you remember that werewolves[[spoiler:only have that form because millenia of folklore makes them believe thas their form and the experimented children on his laboratory have shapes of other animals because they are not that limited]]. Obviously, considering that he uses clothes and magic he must be very old and had pass the 50 years required to become calmer again. Also, many places that didn't have wolves have oral traditions about werejaguars, werebears, weretigers, werespiders and more.In the Secret World they may be accounts of local werewolves taking a form according to the animals around them.
In Shamain 2012 Event the final boss is a antropomorphic cat called Irusan who rules over a pack of werewolves and is considered another Werewolf as type of enemy. This makes no sense...until you remember that werewolves[[spoiler:only have that form because millenia of folklore makes them believe thas their form and the experimented children on his laboratory have shapes of other animals because they are not that limited]]. Obviously, considering that he uses clothes and magic he must be very old and had pass the 50 years required to become calmer again. Also, many places that didn't have wolves have oral traditions about werejaguars, werebears, weretigers, werespiders and more.In the Secret World they may be accounts of local werewolves taking a form according to the animals around them.
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[[WMG: Dr. Scheber Schreber is[[spoiler:NOT the first one to discover how a werewolf transformation works]] ]]
In Shamain 2012 Event the final boss is a antropomorphic cat called Irusan who rules over a pack of werewolves and is considered another Werewolf as type of enemy. This makes no sense...until you remember that werewolves[[spoiler:only have that form because millenia of folklore makes them believe thas their form and the experimented children on his laboratory have shapes of other animals because they are not that limited]]. Obviously, considering that he uses clothes andmagic magic, he must be very old and had pass the 50 years required to become calmer again. Also, many places that didn't have wolves have oral traditions about werejaguars, werebears, weretigers, weresharks, werespiders and more.more. In the Secret World they may be accounts of local werewolves taking a form according to the animals around them.[[spoiler:Of course, since Lilith didn't even think very high about her creations is possible that she was unaware of this until Schreber experiments and the Nephilim capturing her made her unable to use this, since she would be using that hability to create different specialised forms of werewolves for her, and likely Samael, army Ages ago.]]
In Shamain 2012 Event the final boss is a antropomorphic cat called Irusan who rules over a pack of werewolves and is considered another Werewolf as type of enemy. This makes no sense...until you remember that werewolves[[spoiler:only have that form because millenia of folklore makes them believe thas their form and the experimented children on his laboratory have shapes of other animals because they are not that limited]]. Obviously, considering that he uses clothes and
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It's possible that the Dreamers, following the kidnaping of children to the Orochi laboratories connected with them and manifested their boogeyman in reality, turning a tale with no truth into predatory reality. If they did it before, why not again?
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It's possible that the Dreamers, that, following the [[spoiler:the kidnaping of children to by Dr. Schreber's minions]] the Orochi laboratories Dreamers connected with them and manifested their boogeyman in reality, turning a tale with no truth into predatory reality. If they did it before, why not again?again?
[[WMG: Dr. Scheber is[[spoiler:NOT the first one to discover how a werewolf transformation works]] ]]
In Shamain 2012 Event the final boss is a antropomorphic cat called Irusan who rules over a pack of werewolves and is considered another Werewolf as type of enemy. This makes no sense...until you remember that werewolves[[spoiler:only have that form because millenia of folklore makes them believe thas their form and the experimented children on his laboratory have shapes of other animals because they are not that limited]]. Obviously, considering that he uses clothes and magic he must be very old and had pass the 50 years required to become calmer again. Also, many places that didn't have wolves have oral traditions about werejaguars, werebears, weretigers, werespiders and more.In the Secret World they may be accounts of local werewolves taking a form according to the animals around them.
[[WMG: Dr. Scheber is[[spoiler:NOT the first one to discover how a werewolf transformation works]] ]]
In Shamain 2012 Event the final boss is a antropomorphic cat called Irusan who rules over a pack of werewolves and is considered another Werewolf as type of enemy. This makes no sense...until you remember that werewolves[[spoiler:only have that form because millenia of folklore makes them believe thas their form and the experimented children on his laboratory have shapes of other animals because they are not that limited]]. Obviously, considering that he uses clothes and magic he must be very old and had pass the 50 years required to become calmer again. Also, many places that didn't have wolves have oral traditions about werejaguars, werebears, weretigers, werespiders and more.In the Secret World they may be accounts of local werewolves taking a form according to the animals around them.
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3. The Bees seem to NOT know what they are, explaining that '''Whatever they were, between story and reality, has been corrupted by a parasite'''.
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3. The Bees seem to NOT know what they are, explaining that '''Whatever ''Whatever they were, between story and reality, has been corrupted by a parasite'''.
parasite''.
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1. When explainig about the Truce that Cucuvea enforces the Zmei are not mentioned.
2. In the Lore they are stated as characters of fairy-tales.
2. In the Lore they are stated as characters of fairy-tales.
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1. When explainig about the Truce that Cucuvea enforces the Zmei are not NOT mentioned.
2. In the Lore they are stated ascharacters ''characters of fairy-tales.
fairy-tales''.
2. In the Lore they are stated as
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4. Connecting with the former, ALL OF THEM ARE INFECTED WITH THE FILTH. Of course the Bees say that they bathed in the Filth-infested hot springs.
5.Lastly, the last line of the Lore is '''Where once they were the dreams of frightened children, now they are the walking dreams of the Dreamers who sleep just beyond space'''. What other things where Dreams until the Dreamers infected them? '''The Draugr'''.
5.Lastly, the last line of the Lore is '''Where once they were the dreams of frightened children, now they are the walking dreams of the Dreamers who sleep just beyond space'''. What other things where Dreams until the Dreamers infected them? '''The Draugr'''.
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4. Connecting with the former, ALL OF THEM ARE INFECTED WITH THE FILTH.''all of them are infected with the Filth''. Of course the Bees say that they bathed in the Filth-infested hot springs.
5.Lastly, the last line of the Lore is'''Where ''Where once they were the dreams of frightened children, now they are the walking dreams of the Dreamers who sleep just beyond space'''. space''. What other things where were Dreams until the Dreamers infected them? '''The Draugr'''.
5.Lastly, the last line of the Lore is
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3. The Bees seem to NOT know what they are, explaining that "Whatever they were, between story and reality, has been corrupted by a parasite".
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3. The Bees seem to NOT know what they are, explaining that "Whatever '''Whatever they were, between story and reality, has been corrupted by a parasite".
parasite'''.
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5.Lastly, the last line of the Lore is "Where once they were the dreams of frightened children, now they are the walking dreams of the Dreamers who sleep just beyond space". What other things where Dreams until the Dreamers infected them? "The Draugr".
It's possible that the Dreamers, following the kidnaping of children to the Orochi laboratories connected with them and manifested their boogeyman in reality, turning a tale with no truth into predatory reality.
It's possible that the Dreamers, following the kidnaping of children to the Orochi laboratories connected with them and manifested their boogeyman in reality, turning a tale with no truth into predatory reality.
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5.Lastly, the last line of the Lore is "Where '''Where once they were the dreams of frightened children, now they are the walking dreams of the Dreamers who sleep just beyond space". space'''. What other things where Dreams until the Dreamers infected them? "The Draugr".
'''The Draugr'''.
It's possible that the Dreamers, following the kidnaping of children to the Orochi laboratories connected with them and manifested their boogeyman in reality, turning a tale with no truth into predatory reality. If they did it before, why not again?
It's possible that the Dreamers, following the kidnaping of children to the Orochi laboratories connected with them and manifested their boogeyman in reality, turning a tale with no truth into predatory reality. If they did it before, why not again?
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[[WMG: Cassandra King is related to King Solomon in some way]]
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[[WMG: Cassandra King is related to King Solomon in some way]]way]]
[[WMG: The Zmei are not real]]
This sound strange so let me explain:
1. When explainig about the Truce that Cucuvea enforces the Zmei are not mentioned.
2. In the Lore they are stated as characters of fairy-tales.
3. The Bees seem to NOT know what they are, explaining that "Whatever they were, between story and reality, has been corrupted by a parasite".
4. Connecting with the former, ALL OF THEM ARE INFECTED WITH THE FILTH. Of course the Bees say that they bathed in the Filth-infested hot springs.
5.Lastly, the last line of the Lore is "Where once they were the dreams of frightened children, now they are the walking dreams of the Dreamers who sleep just beyond space". What other things where Dreams until the Dreamers infected them? "The Draugr".
It's possible that the Dreamers, following the kidnaping of children to the Orochi laboratories connected with them and manifested their boogeyman in reality, turning a tale with no truth into predatory reality.
[[WMG: The Zmei are not real]]
This sound strange so let me explain:
1. When explainig about the Truce that Cucuvea enforces the Zmei are not mentioned.
2. In the Lore they are stated as characters of fairy-tales.
3. The Bees seem to NOT know what they are, explaining that "Whatever they were, between story and reality, has been corrupted by a parasite".
4. Connecting with the former, ALL OF THEM ARE INFECTED WITH THE FILTH. Of course the Bees say that they bathed in the Filth-infested hot springs.
5.Lastly, the last line of the Lore is "Where once they were the dreams of frightened children, now they are the walking dreams of the Dreamers who sleep just beyond space". What other things where Dreams until the Dreamers infected them? "The Draugr".
It's possible that the Dreamers, following the kidnaping of children to the Orochi laboratories connected with them and manifested their boogeyman in reality, turning a tale with no truth into predatory reality.
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* Venice, as home of the Council of Venice could serve as a neutral hub.
** If so then Venice's story segment will also have more focus on Investigation and Sabotage Missions working to smoke out the moles on the Council, Orochi or otherwise.
** Partially confirmed in Issue 8 where we visit the Sunken Library which is in Venice.
*** And further sort of confirmed in Tokyo, with several intrigue/spy based missions
** If so then Venice's story segment will also have more focus on Investigation and Sabotage Missions working to smoke out the moles on the Council, Orochi or otherwise.
** Partially confirmed in Issue 8 where we visit the Sunken Library which is in Venice.
*** And further sort of confirmed in Tokyo, with several intrigue/spy based missions
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* Venice, as home of the Council of Venice Venice, could serve as a neutral hub.
** Ifso so, then Venice's story segment will also have more focus on Investigation and Sabotage Missions working to smoke out the moles on the Council, Orochi or otherwise.
**Partially confirmed in Confirmed. Issue 8 where we visit unlocks the Council of Venice headquarters in the Sunken Library which is in Venice.
*** And further sort of confirmed in Tokyo,as a neutral hub. No quest-givers, and you don't visit the surface city proper, but it does come with several intrigue/spy based missionsthe simulator and its challenge missions, and the story mission in Venice has you chasing down a Phoenician spy.
** If
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*** And further sort of confirmed in Tokyo,
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** Some of lore in Issue 10 mentions the Congo. Also [[spoiler:a different strain of Filth in Tokyo came from cargo aboard a ship from Africa.]]
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** Some of the lore in Issue 10 mentions the Congo. Also [[spoiler:a different strain of Filth in Tokyo came from cargo aboard a ship from Africa.]]
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* Norway. The Vikings have played a role in the lore, being the origin of the Draug, and it would also be an opportunity to mine Scandinavian folklore -- trolls, huldras, nattmaras, Myth/NorseMythology, etc. Plus, the studio and the game's original designer, Ragnar Tørnquist, are Norwegian.
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* Norway. The Vikings have played a role in the lore, being the origin of the Draug, and it would also be an opportunity to mine Scandinavian folklore -- trolls, huldras, nattmaras, Myth/NorseMythology, etc. Plus, The country's occupation by the studio and Nazis during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII also creates an opportunity to bring in the {{Ghostapo}}. It doesn't hurt that the game's developers, including the original designer, designer Ragnar Tørnquist, are Norwegian.
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* Scotland, Cassandra King was last sighted there and it is inevitable that she and the players will meet again.
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* Norway. The Vikings have played a role in the lore, being the origin of the Draug, and it would also be an opportunity to mine Scandinavian folklore -- trolls, huldras, nattmaras, Myth/NorseMythology, etc. Plus, the game's original designer, Ragnar Tørnquist, is Norwegian.
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* Norway. The Vikings have played a role in the lore, being the origin of the Draug, and it would also be an opportunity to mine Scandinavian folklore -- trolls, huldras, nattmaras, Myth/NorseMythology, etc. Plus, the studio and the game's original designer, Ragnar Tørnquist, is are Norwegian.
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** This one's practically confirmed, if I recall.
** Confirmed. The upcoming Issue 9 is said to be the start of the Tokyo arc.
** Confirmed. The upcoming Issue 9 is said to be the start of the Tokyo arc.
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* Area 51, with the revelation that the Aliens are actually a type of supernatural creatures the US Government has kept contained 'till now.
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* Area 51, {{Area 51}}, with the revelation that the Aliens are actually a type of supernatural creatures the US Government has kept contained 'till now.now.
** One could include the surrounding Nevada desert for some [[TheWestern Western]] influences -- a [[TheWildWest Wild West]] GhostTown turned TouristTrap, [[NoPartyLikeADonnerParty Donner Party-style escapades]], the ghosts of old gunfighters, a lost Mormon colony, Native American lore (specifically Paiute or Shoshone instead of Wabanaki), etc. And of course, giant radioactive (or Filth-infected) bugs from the more modern age. Alternatively, instead of Area 51, they could use Dulce Base in New Mexico instead for much the same feel, which would also allow them to get in the Anasazi ruins.
** One could include the surrounding Nevada desert for some [[TheWestern Western]] influences -- a [[TheWildWest Wild West]] GhostTown turned TouristTrap, [[NoPartyLikeADonnerParty Donner Party-style escapades]], the ghosts of old gunfighters, a lost Mormon colony, Native American lore (specifically Paiute or Shoshone instead of Wabanaki), etc. And of course, giant radioactive (or Filth-infected) bugs from the more modern age. Alternatively, instead of Area 51, they could use Dulce Base in New Mexico instead for much the same feel, which would also allow them to get in the Anasazi ruins.
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* Norway. The Vikings have played a role in the lore, being the origin of the Draug, and it would also be an opportunity to mine Scandinavian folklore -- trolls, huldras, nattmaras, Myth/NorseMythology, etc. Plus, the game's original designer, Ragnar Tørnquist, is Norwegian.
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[[WMG:The Dreamers are the [[Franchise/TheCthulhuMythos Outer Gods and the Filth is a manifestation of Nyarlathotep]]]]
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[[WMG:The Dreamers are the [[Franchise/TheCthulhuMythos [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Outer Gods and the Filth is a manifestation of Nyarlathotep]]]]
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Gerry mentions that the man who built it in the first place went mad and killed himself. What it it was the final step to finish the project. The reason he spews memes is that his spirit is now inhabiting the internet and it's a bit too much for him.
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Lilith says "time moves strangely when the ages flip," and she can't put a number on how many years are between the Third and Fourth Ages because of it. Given that the Third Age ended because a Dreamer woke up just a little bit, and a Dreamer is a CosmicHorror that eats stars and does bad things to reality itself, the Ages may be distinct from each other in more abstract ways than the passage of time, resulting in the radically different ways technology developed in previous Ages, among who knows what other differences; perhaps in a previous Age, the Earth was flat or the center of the universe. At the very least, it may be more than the occurrence of an extinction event that ends an Age and starts a new one going.
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Lilith says "time moves strangely when the ages flip," and she can't put a number on how many years are between the Third and Fourth Ages because of it. Given that the Third Age ended because a Dreamer woke up just a little bit, and a Dreamer is a CosmicHorror that eats stars and does bad things to reality itself, the Ages may be distinct from each other in more abstract ways than the passage of time, resulting in the radically different ways technology developed in previous Ages, among who knows what other differences; perhaps in a previous Age, the Earth was flat or the center of the universe. At the very least, it may be more than the occurrence of an extinction event that ends an Age and starts a new one going.going.
[[WMG: Cassandra King is related to King Solomon in some way]]
[[WMG: Cassandra King is related to King Solomon in some way]]
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As per Issue 14.
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[ ] Solomon's key [[spoiler: unless the Sword of Solomon Island counts, since the ''Key of Solomon'' was a book.]]\\
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* Incorrect, there are several cutscenes with gestures, as well as quests that require your character to communicate. Also, you can quite clearly ask questions about specific subjects. It is possible that characters are mute, but telepathic, but it is very clear that characters can communicate.
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This is most obvious with the Templar, as the Player and Richard Sonnac are both stated to be the "New Templars", and that they have earned the ire of the "Old Templars". Likewise, Kristen Geary makes similar (if more subtle) remarks about an "Old vs. New" dynamic at play in the Illuminati after [[TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness The Talking Heads]] give her a PsychicNosebleed. As for The Dragon, while getting [[spoiler: Daimon Koyota]] as the new [[TheConsigliere Voice of the Dragon]] seems to be a big score for them, [[AnarchyIsChaos his more "aggressive" approach to creating chaos]] is perilously close to JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope, and he's just a single MoralEventHorizon away (such as, say, [[NukeEm deciding to nuke a city off the map]], [[TheVirus or unleashing another filth bomb]], [[ForTheEvulz just to see what kind of "chaos" ensues]]) to make a FaceHeelTurn.
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This is most obvious with the Templar, as the Player and Richard Sonnac are both stated to be the "New Templars", and that they have earned the ire of the "Old Templars". Likewise, Kristen Geary makes similar (if more subtle) remarks about an "Old vs. New" dynamic at play in the Illuminati after [[TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness The Talking Heads]] give her a PsychicNosebleed. As for The Dragon, while getting [[spoiler: Daimon Koyota]] as the new [[TheConsigliere Voice of the Dragon]] seems to be a big score for them, [[AnarchyIsChaos his more "aggressive" approach to creating chaos]] is perilously close to JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope, and he's just a single MoralEventHorizon away (such as, say, [[NukeEm deciding to nuke a city off the map]], [[TheVirus or unleashing another filth bomb]], [[ForTheEvulz just to see what kind of "chaos" ensues]]) to make a FaceHeelTurn.FaceHeelTurn.
[[WMG: There's more to an Age than time.]]
Lilith says "time moves strangely when the ages flip," and she can't put a number on how many years are between the Third and Fourth Ages because of it. Given that the Third Age ended because a Dreamer woke up just a little bit, and a Dreamer is a CosmicHorror that eats stars and does bad things to reality itself, the Ages may be distinct from each other in more abstract ways than the passage of time, resulting in the radically different ways technology developed in previous Ages, among who knows what other differences; perhaps in a previous Age, the Earth was flat or the center of the universe. At the very least, it may be more than the occurrence of an extinction event that ends an Age and starts a new one going.
[[WMG: There's more to an Age than time.]]
Lilith says "time moves strangely when the ages flip," and she can't put a number on how many years are between the Third and Fourth Ages because of it. Given that the Third Age ended because a Dreamer woke up just a little bit, and a Dreamer is a CosmicHorror that eats stars and does bad things to reality itself, the Ages may be distinct from each other in more abstract ways than the passage of time, resulting in the radically different ways technology developed in previous Ages, among who knows what other differences; perhaps in a previous Age, the Earth was flat or the center of the universe. At the very least, it may be more than the occurrence of an extinction event that ends an Age and starts a new one going.
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In JapaneseMythology Amatsu Mikaboshi is seen as a primordial chaos which existed before creation, was shattered and broken, and became part of it upon the creation of the world. There have been cults dedicated to it in ancient Japanese times (the mythical queen Himiko was thought to be amongst them), it is said to be a corrupting force turning love into obsession, anger into hate, etc., and finally, Amatsu Mikaboshi means "The August Star of Heaven". All of these run parallel to many themes of when a cult forms around The Filth and The Dreamers.
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In JapaneseMythology Myth/JapaneseMythology Amatsu Mikaboshi is seen as a primordial chaos which existed before creation, was shattered and broken, and became part of it upon the creation of the world. There have been cults dedicated to it in ancient Japanese times (the mythical queen Himiko was thought to be amongst them), it is said to be a corrupting force turning love into obsession, anger into hate, etc., and finally, Amatsu Mikaboshi means "The August Star of Heaven". All of these run parallel to many themes of when a cult forms around The Filth and The Dreamers.
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[[WMG:The Dragon are a front of [[{{Illuminatus}} the Legion of Dynamic Discord]].]]
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[[WMG:The Dragon are a front of [[{{Illuminatus}} [[Literature/{{Illuminatus}} the Legion of Dynamic Discord]].]]
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[[WMG:The Tokyo Bomber becoming the Black Signal came out of the left field for all the parties involved, including [[spoiler:Lilith and Philip Marquard]]]]
I just like the idea that nobody saw it coming and now there is unexpected player. Especially since [[spoiler:after Issue #11 John has been freed from all previous obligations to stay in Tokyo and it's anyone's guess what he's going to do next.]]
I just like the idea that nobody saw it coming and now there is unexpected player. Especially since [[spoiler:after Issue #11 John has been freed from all previous obligations to stay in Tokyo and it's anyone's guess what he's going to do next.]]
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I just like the idea that nobody saw it coming and now there is unexpected player. Especially since [[spoiler:after Issue #11 John has been freed from all previous obligations to stay in Tokyo and it's anyone's guess what he's going to do next.
[[WMG: The fallout from the Tokyo arc will eventually lead to a CivilWar in all of the factions]]
This is most obvious with the Templar, as the Player and Richard Sonnac are both stated to be the "New Templars", and that they have earned the ire of the "Old Templars". Likewise, Kristen Geary makes similar (if more subtle) remarks about an "Old vs. New" dynamic at play in the Illuminati after [[TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness The Talking Heads]] give her a PsychicNosebleed. As for The Dragon, while getting [[spoiler: Daimon Koyota]] as the new [[TheConsigliere Voice of the Dragon]] seems to be a big score for them, [[AnarchyIsChaos his more "aggressive" approach to creating chaos]] is perilously close to JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope, and he's just a single MoralEventHorizon away (such as, say, [[NukeEm deciding to nuke a city off the map]], [[TheVirus or unleashing another filth bomb]], [[ForTheEvulz just to see what kind of "chaos" ensues]]) to make a FaceHeelTurn.
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* {{Jossed}} according to the Buzzing Lore in Issue 11 Ishtar is identified as being [[spoiler:Lilith]]. Additionally, the same person was also implied to be [[spoiler:[[ClassicalMythology Athena and Juno]]]].
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* {{Jossed}} according to the Buzzing Lore in Issue 11 Ishtar is identified as being [[spoiler:Lilith]]. Additionally, the same person was also implied to be [[spoiler:[[ClassicalMythology [[spoiler:[[Myth/ClassicalMythology Athena and Juno]]]].
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[[WMG:There is a reason ''VideoGame/TheSecretWorld'' didn't have a WMG page until now (December 16, 2012 at creation)]]
If only because a game of this nature would have had a very long one by now. Specifically, the Council of Venice has been suppressing all speculation on The Secret World, just in case the guess comes too close to reality and risks to blow the masquerade.
If only because a game of this nature would have had a very long one by now. Specifically, the Council of Venice has been suppressing all speculation on The Secret World, just in case the guess comes too close to reality and risks to blow the masquerade.
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[[WMG:There is a reason ''VideoGame/TheSecretWorld'' didn't have a WMG page until now (December December 16, 2012 at creation)]]
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If only because a game of this nature would have had a very long one bynow.then. Specifically, the Council of Venice has been suppressing all speculation on The Secret World, just in case the guess comes too close to reality and risks to blow the masquerade.
If only because a game of this nature would have had a very long one by
