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**[[http://www.capesite.net/episode-9-razer-official-description/ Confirmed, as of the episode nine official description.]]
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** The Cape isn't even very well trained, outside of stealth and sleight of hand cape skillz. He was an amateur fighter, which is useful and gives him an edge, but combat does not seem to be a common occurrence for him. I thought the hypnosis was used to speed up his own training, like conditioning him to pain or stealth.
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** The [strike]The Cape isn't even very well trained, outside of stealth and sleight of hand cape skillz.skillz[/strike] never mind, he's former special ops. He was an amateur fighter, which is useful and gives him an edge, but combat does not seem to be a common occurrence for him. I thought the hypnosis was used to speed up his own training, like conditioning him to pain or stealth.
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* There's already tension there. He's a cop living with criminals (although he does/did supply them with info out of necessity). Max appears to have many resources and lots of experience, as well as rich taste. Such a man may not be content with robbing banks and gathering wealth. Add to that the Circus of Crime's themed villainy is the natural prey of heroes like the Cape, and they will have irreconcilable differences leading to an epic enmity.
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* There's already tension there. He's a cop living with criminals (although he does/did supply them with info out of necessity). Max appears to have many resources and lots of experience, as well as rich taste. Such a man may not be content with robbing banks and gathering wealth. Add to that the Circus of Crime's themed villainy is the natural prey of heroes like the Cape, and they will have irreconcilable differences leading to an epic enmity.enmity.
[[WMG:Chess killed Orwells mother]]
Chess is a different persona than Peter Fleming and in his first appearence killed the mother of his child (They were not married, if there were any obvious connection Vince would have found it by now). Flemming then pushed Orwell away, afraid he couldn't protect his daughter from Chess otherwise. But since he is a CorruptCorporateExecutive he also used Chess hunger for blood in his buissnes, thus protecting Orwell further by distracting Chess. Orwell found out and is now trying to stop her father, this is the reason she is so deeply afraid of being found out.
[[WMG:Flemming killed Orwells mother]]
Mostly as above, but Fleming killed Orwells mother because she wanted to leave him/found out about his crimes and wanted to report him. He couldn't deal with what he had done and created the Chess persona so he had someone to blame. He left Orwell out of shame.
[[WMG:Chess killed Orwells mother]]
Chess is a different persona than Peter Fleming and in his first appearence killed the mother of his child (They were not married, if there were any obvious connection Vince would have found it by now). Flemming then pushed Orwell away, afraid he couldn't protect his daughter from Chess otherwise. But since he is a CorruptCorporateExecutive he also used Chess hunger for blood in his buissnes, thus protecting Orwell further by distracting Chess. Orwell found out and is now trying to stop her father, this is the reason she is so deeply afraid of being found out.
[[WMG:Flemming killed Orwells mother]]
Mostly as above, but Fleming killed Orwells mother because she wanted to leave him/found out about his crimes and wanted to report him. He couldn't deal with what he had done and created the Chess persona so he had someone to blame. He left Orwell out of shame.
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** The mundane explanation would be that you can't predict what a dead man will do. Vince isn't dead, true, but he's not really acting in a consistant way as when he was 'alive' which means she'd at least need more data to figure him out.
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*** The hypnosis used for training was just for the Dice episode. The actual hypnosis training was for Vince to use himself as demostrated by him using hypnosis to get the hypnotist into a bra. At as far as fighting, at worse, we can say he's not used to fighting with a cape.
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** This does make some sense. The two sides do seem to react to The Cape differently. Chess is openly hostile towards him while Flemming found him more amusing.
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** The cape isn't even very well trained, outside of stealth and sleight of hand cape skillz. He was an amateur fighter, which is useful and gives him an edge, but combat does not seem to be a common occurrence for him. I thought the hypnosis was used to speed up his own training, like conditioning him to pain or stealth.
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** The cape Cape isn't even very well trained, outside of stealth and sleight of hand cape skillz. He was an amateur fighter, which is useful and gives him an edge, but combat does not seem to be a common occurrence for him. I thought the hypnosis was used to speed up his own training, like conditioning him to pain or stealth.
*** He is a former military grunt who did things "that you would not like,", then a experienced cop, all before he donned [[TitleDrop The Cape]] What do you mean "The Cape isn't even very well trained."
*** He is a former military grunt who did things "that you would not like,", then a experienced cop, all before he donned [[TitleDrop The Cape]] What do you mean "The Cape isn't even very well trained."
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There's already tension there. He's a cop living with criminals (although he does/did supply them with info out of necessity). Max appears to have many resources and lots of experience, as well as rich taste. Such a man may not be content with robbing banks and gathering wealth. Add to that the Circus of Crime's themed villainy is the natural prey of heroes like the Cape, and they will have irreconcilable differences leading to an epic enmity.
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* There's already tension there. He's a cop living with criminals (although he does/did supply them with info out of necessity). Max appears to have many resources and lots of experience, as well as rich taste. Such a man may not be content with robbing banks and gathering wealth. Add to that the Circus of Crime's themed villainy is the natural prey of heroes like the Cape, and they will have irreconcilable differences leading to an epic enmity.
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** They're treating him as a serial killer. IIRC, he worked alone when he was public. The get-up is uniform, but minimalist and not all that elaborate. He could probably pass for a psycho with weird fashion sense.
** Although, on another note, both Scales and the Carnival of Crime are established presences. Chess' public face is not that large a step up.
** Although, on another note, both Scales and the Carnival of Crime are established presences. Chess' public face is not that large a step up.
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** The show's scope is pretty small, so far-nothing too ambitious. The story centers on a single city, and the Cape is more concerned with and motivated by his feelings for his family, with his sense of justice being secondary. So the conflicts are a little low key. A CorruptCorporateExecutive is more than enough for now. Think about the scale of SinCity, for reference, but remove the general public's involvement.
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** Seems very unlikely, unless Fleming is unaware of his actions as Chess. Fleming talks down to members of Tarot and openly questions their competence, and is unaware of their methods or practices.
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** The cape does not seem to be very acrobatic, and he's no killer, which is a big part of being an assassin.
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** Isn't the comic metafiction? Portraying the in-universe comic version of the Cape, and not Vince Faraday?
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** Or other brother [[{{Lost}} Daniel]]?
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*More CharlesAtlasSuperpower than anything else, right now. And that should be enough. To be fair, the show is hinting at supernatural elements, and Molotov was able to throw a guy across a room without really touching him.
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** The cape isn't even very well trained, outside of stealth and sleight of hand cape skillz. He was an amateur fighter, which is useful and gives him an edge, but combat does not seem to be a common occurrence for him. I thought the hypnosis was used to speed up his own training, like conditioning him to pain or stealth.
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** Possibly the two sides are in conflict? One reason to fake Chess' death--so that the psychological victory would take hold and keep the Chess personality down?
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* Given the MaybeMagicMaybeMundane aura surrounding the cape, it could be that Vince was in Dice's blind spot simply because the world thinks he's dead, or he uses tactics she didn't factor into her equations. On the other hand, it could be that the cape itself has the power to make its wearer unpredictable. It ''was'' highly coveted among thieves and murderers, after all.
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* Given the MaybeMagicMaybeMundane aura surrounding the cape, it could be that Vince was in Dice's blind spot simply because the world thinks he's dead, or he uses tactics she didn't factor into her equations. On the other hand, it could be that the cape itself has the power to make its wearer unpredictable. It ''was'' highly coveted among thieves and murderers, after all.all.
** Somehow, the Cape seems to be keeping a low profile, what with being lifted wholesale from a comic book and all. Dice just may not have known he existed at all. But magic implications were very strong and much cooler.
[[WMG: Max is planning something big and villainous, and Vince will leave the Circus when he finds out]]
There's already tension there. He's a cop living with criminals (although he does/did supply them with info out of necessity). Max appears to have many resources and lots of experience, as well as rich taste. Such a man may not be content with robbing banks and gathering wealth. Add to that the Circus of Crime's themed villainy is the natural prey of heroes like the Cape, and they will have irreconcilable differences leading to an epic enmity.
** Somehow, the Cape seems to be keeping a low profile, what with being lifted wholesale from a comic book and all. Dice just may not have known he existed at all. But magic implications were very strong and much cooler.
[[WMG: Max is planning something big and villainous, and Vince will leave the Circus when he finds out]]
There's already tension there. He's a cop living with criminals (although he does/did supply them with info out of necessity). Max appears to have many resources and lots of experience, as well as rich taste. Such a man may not be content with robbing banks and gathering wealth. Add to that the Circus of Crime's themed villainy is the natural prey of heroes like the Cape, and they will have irreconcilable differences leading to an epic enmity.
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*** With the introduction of ambiguously supernatural elements, its possible that contacts might not be a factor at all.
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[[WMG:There will be a [[TheCape Paragon of Justice]] known as {{The Cowl}}]]
* For the Irony, a rival super hero with [[FlyingBrick Superman]]-esque symbol of Inspiration will appear and call himself The Cowl. Said Cowl will probably be a Captain America styled safety goggle set up to protect his eyes during flight. The show's Troperiffic enough that I'm sure someone's noticed.
* For the Irony, a rival super hero with [[FlyingBrick Superman]]-esque symbol of Inspiration will appear and call himself The Cowl. Said Cowl will probably be a Captain America styled safety goggle set up to protect his eyes during flight. The show's Troperiffic enough that I'm sure someone's noticed.
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** So he'd be a CorruptCorporateExecutive with an even more corrupt alter ego? That's kinda messed up.
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** So he'd be a CorruptCorporateExecutive with an even more corrupt alter ego? That's kinda messed up.up.
[[WMG: The cape somehow makes Vince ImmuneToFate.]]
* Given the MaybeMagicMaybeMundane aura surrounding the cape, it could be that Vince was in Dice's blind spot simply because the world thinks he's dead, or he uses tactics she didn't factor into her equations. On the other hand, it could be that the cape itself has the power to make its wearer unpredictable. It ''was'' highly coveted among thieves and murderers, after all.
[[WMG: The cape somehow makes Vince ImmuneToFate.]]
* Given the MaybeMagicMaybeMundane aura surrounding the cape, it could be that Vince was in Dice's blind spot simply because the world thinks he's dead, or he uses tactics she didn't factor into her equations. On the other hand, it could be that the cape itself has the power to make its wearer unpredictable. It ''was'' highly coveted among thieves and murderers, after all.
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* The doctor in the most recent episode asked him "have there been any visits from our friend?" Not to mention at the end a chessboard magically appears in Peter's apartment, and he seems to know how it got there.
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* The doctor in the most recent episode asked him "have there been any visits from our friend?" Not to mention at the end a chessboard magically appears in Peter's apartment, and he seems to know how it got there.there.
** So he'd be a CorruptCorporateExecutive with an even more corrupt alter ego? That's kinda messed up.
** So he'd be a CorruptCorporateExecutive with an even more corrupt alter ego? That's kinda messed up.
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** This is true. For all the faults, the show does seem to make efforts to show that Vince isn't suppose to be special just well trained and to justify the things he does/that happen to him. For instance, before landing on the car, you can briefly see him flaring his cape, ostensibly to slow his fall. The several times he gets stabbed, it's always in places where he doesn't have armor and its debatable how much protection his chest plate actually allows since his circus training makes him more FragileSpeedster more than anything else - the fights with Rallo seemed mostly to tough him up and get him use to pain and punishment so that he can endure the contortions needed for whatever he does. Same for the villains; when the poisoner was first introduced, they lingered on his knife thingie for a while and showed him picking up the kitchen knife. Possibly as an attempt to show that he only has very few knifes he doesn't want to use often as opposed to a typical comic book villain like Bullseye who would effectively end up summoning things from his pockets.
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** This is true. For all the faults, the show does seem to make efforts to show that Vince isn't suppose to be special just well trained and to justify the things he does/that happen to him. For instance, before landing on the car, you can briefly see him flaring his cape, ostensibly to slow his fall. The several times he gets stabbed, it's always in places where he doesn't have armor and its debatable how much protection his chest plate actually allows since his circus training makes him more FragileSpeedster more than anything else - the fights with Rallo seemed mostly to tough him up and get him use to pain and punishment so that he can endure the contortions needed for whatever he does. Same for the villains; when the poisoner was first introduced, they lingered on his knife thingie for a while and showed him picking up the kitchen knife. Possibly as an attempt to show that he only has very few knifes he doesn't want to use often as opposed to a typical comic book villain like Bullseye who would effectively end up summoning things from his pockets.pockets.
[[WMG: Chess is actually Peter Flemming's alternate personality.]]
* The doctor in the most recent episode asked him "have there been any visits from our friend?" Not to mention at the end a chessboard magically appears in Peter's apartment, and he seems to know how it got there.
[[WMG: Chess is actually Peter Flemming's alternate personality.]]
* The doctor in the most recent episode asked him "have there been any visits from our friend?" Not to mention at the end a chessboard magically appears in Peter's apartment, and he seems to know how it got there.
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*** Who says he didn't recognize her? They were in the middle of a crowd of people, and he immediately (but subtly) chased after her when she fled. It's not like he can say "hey everyone, this girl who's tearing my argument to pieces is actually my daughter."
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**Besides, privatizing the police and military is the first step towards CyberPunk, which would make for a pretty awesome show.
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* This might been an example of me assuming that ViewersAreGeniuses but it is probably canon that all of his more improbable tricks are the result of hypnosis. The show seems to steer away from abilities that are explicitly superhuman or paranormal (i.e. teleportation).
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* This might been an example of me assuming that ViewersAreGeniuses but it is probably canon that all of his more improbable tricks are the result of hypnosis. The show seems to steer away from abilities that are explicitly superhuman or paranormal (i.e. teleportation).teleportation).
** This is true. For all the faults, the show does seem to make efforts to show that Vince isn't suppose to be special just well trained and to justify the things he does/that happen to him. For instance, before landing on the car, you can briefly see him flaring his cape, ostensibly to slow his fall. The several times he gets stabbed, it's always in places where he doesn't have armor and its debatable how much protection his chest plate actually allows since his circus training makes him more FragileSpeedster more than anything else - the fights with Rallo seemed mostly to tough him up and get him use to pain and punishment so that he can endure the contortions needed for whatever he does. Same for the villains; when the poisoner was first introduced, they lingered on his knife thingie for a while and showed him picking up the kitchen knife. Possibly as an attempt to show that he only has very few knifes he doesn't want to use often as opposed to a typical comic book villain like Bullseye who would effectively end up summoning things from his pockets.
** This is true. For all the faults, the show does seem to make efforts to show that Vince isn't suppose to be special just well trained and to justify the things he does/that happen to him. For instance, before landing on the car, you can briefly see him flaring his cape, ostensibly to slow his fall. The several times he gets stabbed, it's always in places where he doesn't have armor and its debatable how much protection his chest plate actually allows since his circus training makes him more FragileSpeedster more than anything else - the fights with Rallo seemed mostly to tough him up and get him use to pain and punishment so that he can endure the contortions needed for whatever he does. Same for the villains; when the poisoner was first introduced, they lingered on his knife thingie for a while and showed him picking up the kitchen knife. Possibly as an attempt to show that he only has very few knifes he doesn't want to use often as opposed to a typical comic book villain like Bullseye who would effectively end up summoning things from his pockets.
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[[WMG:Tarot is not just a secret society of assassins.]]
* Granted, it is a secret society with access to assassins. It is also an organization [[BreakTheBadass that even the nigh-omniscient Orwell has little intel on]]. Peter Fleming may, in fact, be a member like [=LaFleur=]. The Ark Corporation privatized the Palm City Police Department under orders from Tarot. [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel High Octane]] ParanoiaFuel and [[NebulousEvilOrganization the kind of thing that happens all the time in comic books]].
* Granted, it is a secret society with access to assassins. It is also an organization [[BreakTheBadass that even the nigh-omniscient Orwell has little intel on]]. Peter Fleming may, in fact, be a member like [=LaFleur=]. The Ark Corporation privatized the Palm City Police Department under orders from Tarot. [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel High Octane]] ParanoiaFuel and [[NebulousEvilOrganization the kind of thing that happens all the time in comic books]].
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* No one seems to comment on the sheer absurdity of a masked criminal mastermind with a CodeName terrorizing a major city. The guy killed people but that doesn't make him any less absurd. The underreaction of the public might be because supervillains, at least, are not new. Max Malini and the Carnival of Crime seems to imply that [[UnderStatement Palm City attracts a strange breed of criminals]].
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* No one seems to comment on the sheer absurdity of a masked criminal mastermind with a CodeName terrorizing a major city. The guy killed people but that doesn't make him any less absurd. The underreaction of the public might be because supervillains, at least, are not new. Max Malini and the Carnival of Crime seems seem to imply that [[UnderStatement Palm City attracts a strange breed of criminals]].
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[[WMG:Chess wasn't the first supervillain in Palm City.]]
*No one seems to comment on the sheer absurdity of a masked criminal mastermind with a CodeName terrorizing a major city. The guy killed people but that doesn't make him any less absurd. The underreaction of the public might be because supervillains, at least, are not new. Max Malini and the Carnival of Crime seems to imply that [[UnderStatement Palm City attracts a strange breed of criminals]].
*No one seems to comment on the sheer absurdity of a masked criminal mastermind with a CodeName terrorizing a major city. The guy killed people but that doesn't make him any less absurd. The underreaction of the public might be because supervillains, at least, are not new. Max Malini and the Carnival of Crime seems to imply that [[UnderStatement Palm City attracts a strange breed of criminals]].
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** Either the writers [[TheyPlottedAPerfectlyGoodWaste want us to underestimate Chess]] or [[BadWriting they don't know how to write]] a MagnificentBastard.
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*** That would make their encounter on the train in "Scales" a CallBack to "Kozmo" when he claimed he'd able to recognize his own daughter. Apparently, a wig and a feathery domino mask is enough to fool this MostTriumphantExample of a SmugSnake.
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Basically, in the instances where he would have greater difficulty just tossing a smoke bomb and disappearing into darkness or people are too close to do so effectively, he lightly hypnotizes them so they loose track of time and what's going on. In this case, the smoke acts like the slap on the table in the pilot, breaking them out of the light trance and making it seem like he disappeared in an instant when it may have been much longer.
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Basically, in the instances where he would have greater difficulty just tossing a smoke bomb and disappearing into darkness or people are too close to do so effectively, he lightly hypnotizes them so they loose track of time and what's going on. In this case, the smoke acts like the slap on the table in the pilot, breaking them out of the light trance and making it seem like he disappeared in an instant when it may have been much longer.longer.
* This might been an example of me assuming that ViewersAreGeniuses but it is probably canon that all of his more improbable tricks are the result of hypnosis. The show seems to steer away from abilities that are explicitly superhuman or paranormal (i.e. teleportation).
* This might been an example of me assuming that ViewersAreGeniuses but it is probably canon that all of his more improbable tricks are the result of hypnosis. The show seems to steer away from abilities that are explicitly superhuman or paranormal (i.e. teleportation).
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The show seems to be treating Rollo as an actual supporting character rather than comic relief or for TheWorfEffect so it'd be something to do to give the character something to do every so often in B-plots.
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The show seems to be treating Rollo as an actual supporting character rather than comic relief or for TheWorfEffect so it'd be something to do to give the character something to do every so often in B-plots.B-plots.
[[WMG: The Cape's smoke outs are a combination of tricks and hypnosis when he does it in the open.]]
Basically, in the instances where he would have greater difficulty just tossing a smoke bomb and disappearing into darkness or people are too close to do so effectively, he lightly hypnotizes them so they loose track of time and what's going on. In this case, the smoke acts like the slap on the table in the pilot, breaking them out of the light trance and making it seem like he disappeared in an instant when it may have been much longer.
[[WMG: The Cape's smoke outs are a combination of tricks and hypnosis when he does it in the open.]]
Basically, in the instances where he would have greater difficulty just tossing a smoke bomb and disappearing into darkness or people are too close to do so effectively, he lightly hypnotizes them so they loose track of time and what's going on. In this case, the smoke acts like the slap on the table in the pilot, breaking them out of the light trance and making it seem like he disappeared in an instant when it may have been much longer.
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Even more so if it turns out his daughter is Orwell. Essentially, something happened that he felt was unfair and he tried to 'fix' while she felt he was being a bad guy; she leaves and he, trying to fix things more, becomes a Well Intentioned Extremist intent on creating a safe place for his daughter.
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Even more so if it turns out his daughter is Orwell. Essentially, something happened that he felt was unfair and he tried to 'fix' while she felt he was being a bad guy; she leaves and he, trying to fix things more, becomes a Well Intentioned Extremist intent on creating a safe place for his daughter.daughter.
[[WMG: Orwell and Rollo will eventually hook up as a BetaCouple.]]
The show seems to be treating Rollo as an actual supporting character rather than comic relief or for TheWorfEffect so it'd be something to do to give the character something to do every so often in B-plots.
[[WMG: Orwell and Rollo will eventually hook up as a BetaCouple.]]
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[[WMG: Flemming's motivation for creating a police state is related to his separation from his daughter.]]
Even more so if it turns out his daughter is Orwell. Essentially, something happened that he felt was unfair and he tried to 'fix' while she felt he was being a bad guy; she leaves and he, trying to fix things more, becomes a Well Intentioned Extremist intent on creating a safe place for his daughter.
Even more so if it turns out his daughter is Orwell. Essentially, something happened that he felt was unfair and he tried to 'fix' while she felt he was being a bad guy; she leaves and he, trying to fix things more, becomes a Well Intentioned Extremist intent on creating a safe place for his daughter.
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** For laughs, perhaps Vince's wife becomes Rad Lass. As Rad Lass and The Cape, they start to team up and start getting close (not realizing who each other are) but held back by faithfulness to each other. At the same time, Vince will be able to visit her sans-costume and reveal he's not dead (but not revealing he's The Cape). Cue the funny as things get awkward.
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*** Plus the whole thing with Gregor claiming that Orwell had "Daddy Issues". There's really no way this could be made any more obvious.
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We've seen him get a surge of strength whenever he has a flashback of his family life. It's more than just heroic will- the longer he's separated from his family, the more this power will develop.develop.
[[WMG:Max is a retired supervillian from {{TheGoldenAge}} .]]
Come on its so obvious, not only is [[{{RetiredBadass}} Max running a crew of pulp comic criminals.]] He used to be one in the 60s. Can't you imagine him runnig around in the Cape pulling off robberies with his usuall flair of the dramatic while fighting the hero of the city with good natured quipps. Unfortunatly the modern age of criminals who rape and murder has made him a little bitter hence to him taking to drink. The fact that two of his students have gone to the dark site has not helped. The other student.. Chess.
[[WMG:Max is a retired supervillian from {{TheGoldenAge}} .]]
Come on its so obvious, not only is [[{{RetiredBadass}} Max running a crew of pulp comic criminals.]] He used to be one in the 60s. Can't you imagine him runnig around in the Cape pulling off robberies with his usuall flair of the dramatic while fighting the hero of the city with good natured quipps. Unfortunatly the modern age of criminals who rape and murder has made him a little bitter hence to him taking to drink. The fact that two of his students have gone to the dark site has not helped. The other student.. Chess.
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We've seen him get a surge of strength whenever he has a flashback of his family life. It's more than just HeroicWill- heroic will- the longer he's separated from his family, the more this power will develop.
