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[[WMG: Tabuu is the embodiment of the UsefulNotes/Xbox360.]]

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[[WMG: Tabuu is the embodiment of the UsefulNotes/Xbox360.Platform/Xbox360.]]



*** No, Frogger made an appearance on the UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube. Haven't heard of him after that, though.

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*** No, Frogger made an appearance on the UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube.Platform/NintendoGameCube. Haven't heard of him after that, though.
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* The Ancient Minister is the robotic version of ''Literature/{{Pinocchio}}''. Somewhere along the line, a [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZelda Great Fairy]] turned him into a Real Trophy.

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* The Ancient Minister is the robotic version of ''Literature/{{Pinocchio}}''. Somewhere along the line, a [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZelda [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Great Fairy]] turned him into a Real Trophy.
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[[WMG: Smash bros Wii U/3DS will have different unlockable characters.]]

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[[WMG: Smash ''Smash bros Wii U/3DS U/3DS'' will have different unlockable characters.]]



** Possibly jossed, if this [[http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/06/super_smash_bros_will_have_the_same_character_roster_on_both_wii_u_and_3ds article]] is correct. Sakurai wants the "roster experience" to be the same for both versions, so platform-exclusive characters, unlockable or not, are, at best, unlikely. Then again, they could do what Namco did with [[VideoGame/SoulSeries Soulcalibur IV]] and have characters exclusive to one version be DLC for the other.

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** Possibly jossed, if this [[http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/06/super_smash_bros_will_have_the_same_character_roster_on_both_wii_u_and_3ds article]] is correct. Sakurai wants the "roster experience" to be the same for both versions, so platform-exclusive characters, unlockable or not, are, at best, unlikely. Then again, they could do what Namco did with [[VideoGame/SoulSeries ''[[VideoGame/SoulSeries Soulcalibur IV]] IV]]'' and have characters exclusive to one version be DLC for the other.



[[WMG: The next Smash Bros game's story mode with have more dialogue in cutscenes and to a lesser extent the gameplay.]]

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[[WMG: The next Smash Bros ''Smash Bros'' game's story mode with have more dialogue in cutscenes and to a lesser extent the gameplay.]]



* Because thanks to certain games like the recent Kid Icarus game, Nintendo is becoming more open to voice acting.

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* Because thanks to certain games like the recent Kid Icarus ''Kid Icarus'' game, Nintendo is becoming more open to voice acting.



[[WMG: The next Smash Bros will be an outright [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover Crossover]]]]
Smash 4 will take the the precedent set by introducing Sonic and Snake in Brawl to its logical conclusion, pitting Nintendo's combatants against an entirely different company's roster of fighters. My money's on [[WMG/CapcomVsWhatever Capcom]].

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[[WMG: The next Smash Bros ''Smash Bros'' will be an outright [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover Crossover]]]]
Smash 4 ''Smash 4'' will take the the precedent set by introducing Sonic and Snake in Brawl ''Brawl'' to its logical conclusion, pitting Nintendo's combatants against an entirely different company's roster of fighters. My money's on [[WMG/CapcomVsWhatever [[WMG/CapcomVs Capcom]].



* This troper feels ''Smash Bros. VS [[VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy Dissidia]]'' is more likely, given how many people from Square helped out on Brawl.

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* This troper feels ''Smash Bros. VS [[VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy Dissidia]]'' is more likely, given how many people from Square helped out on Brawl.''Brawl''.



** And no-one has even mentioned the fact that Square Enix made the first Mario RPG (before Paper Mario), aptly called Super Mario RPG.

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** And no-one has even mentioned the fact that Square Enix made the first Mario ''Mario'' RPG (before Paper Mario), ''Paper Mario''), aptly called Super ''Super Mario RPG.RPG''.



* Marx from Kirby Super Star has to be in there somewhere. He's got his moves.

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* Marx from Kirby ''Kirby Super Star Star'' has to be in there somewhere. He's got his moves.



* Solid Snake appears in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''. He previously appeared in another MassiveMultiplayerCrossover FightingGame, ''VideoGame/DreamMixTVWorldFighters'', which, among others, featured Optimus Prime and Megatron of Franchise/{{Transformers}}, who were featured in their own Marvel comic book, where they met Spider-Man and Marvel-owned characters like Circuit Breaker. Marvel, of course, has had crossovers with DC (and thus bringing in ''Franchise/MortalKombat'' and a bunch of others), ''Series/DoctorWho'', ''Franchise/StarTrek'' and more. It also means that, by way of ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' and others, almost all Capcom characters are brought in, as well as ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' (itself a crossover!) and numerous Tatsunoku anime characters. Capcom also had the crossover with many [[Creator/BandaiNamcoEntertainment Namco]] games in ''VideoGame/NamcoXCapcom'', which included characters from VideoGame/SoulCalibur so we can also bring in the GuestFighter from ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'', ''Franchise/StarWars'', and Creator/ImageComics. The two main leads of Namco x Capcom originally appeared in VideoGame/SuperRobotWars, opening the door to just about every mecha anime ever made. Image, of course, had the reputation for the horrific ''ComicBook/{{Deathmate}}'' crossover, which drags Creator/ValiantComics (the only name most people will recognize from there is ''ComicBook/{{Turok}}''). Also, since we have established Marvel and DC are part of this mess, we can bring in their parent companies Disney and Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers brings with it Creator/CartoonNetwork originals and Disney brings Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon and Franchise/KingdomHearts. Naturally, Kingdom Hearts brings along Final Fantasy as well. If you wanted to go even further, you could connect this universe to the [[http://www.pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Pulp.htm Expanded Wold Newton Universe]]. So, in short, SSB is the lynchpin of one of the biggest crossovers by implication ever.

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* Solid Snake appears in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''. He previously appeared in another MassiveMultiplayerCrossover FightingGame, ''VideoGame/DreamMixTVWorldFighters'', which, among others, featured Optimus Prime and Megatron of Franchise/{{Transformers}}, ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'', who were featured in their own Marvel comic book, where they met Spider-Man and Marvel-owned characters like Circuit Breaker. Marvel, of course, has had crossovers with DC (and thus bringing in ''Franchise/MortalKombat'' and a bunch of others), ''Series/DoctorWho'', ''Franchise/StarTrek'' and more. It also means that, by way of ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' and others, almost all Capcom characters are brought in, as well as ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' (itself a crossover!) and numerous Tatsunoku anime characters. Capcom also had the crossover with many [[Creator/BandaiNamcoEntertainment Namco]] games in ''VideoGame/NamcoXCapcom'', which included characters from VideoGame/SoulCalibur ''VideoGame/SoulCalibur'' so we can also bring in the GuestFighter from ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'', ''Franchise/StarWars'', and Creator/ImageComics. The two main leads of Namco ''Namco x Capcom Capcom'' originally appeared in VideoGame/SuperRobotWars, ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'', opening the door to just about every mecha anime ever made. Image, of course, had the reputation for the horrific ''ComicBook/{{Deathmate}}'' crossover, which drags Creator/ValiantComics (the only name most people will recognize from there is ''ComicBook/{{Turok}}''). Also, since we have established Marvel and DC are part of this mess, we can bring in their parent companies Disney and Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers brings with it Creator/CartoonNetwork originals and Disney brings Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon and Franchise/KingdomHearts. Naturally, Kingdom Hearts brings along Final Fantasy as well. If you wanted to go even further, you could connect this universe to the [[http://www.pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Pulp.htm Expanded Wold Newton Universe]]. So, in short, SSB is the lynchpin of one of the biggest crossovers by implication ever.



*** Going by the Disney/Warner Bros. route, we have ''WesternAnimation/CartoonAllStarsToTheRescue'' (although this is dubious at best), which brings (not counting the well-known characters mentioned above) ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}, WesternAnimation/{{The Smurfs|1981}}, the 1987 ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'' (and, by TMNT Forever, the 2003 series and the original comics), WesternAnimation/MuppetBabies, Series/{{ALF}}, WesternAnimation/AlvinandtheChipmunks and WesternAnimation/TheRealGhostbusters into the mix. Going by the company logic, Nickelodeon is brought in by [=TMNT's=] presence as present owner. And if we stretch it, Literature/HarryPotter is brought in by the film series being produced by WB. Any bets that we'll run into something like TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} sooner or later if we keep finding links?

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*** Going by the Disney/Warner Bros. route, we have ''WesternAnimation/CartoonAllStarsToTheRescue'' (although this is dubious at best), which brings (not counting the well-known characters mentioned above) ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}, WesternAnimation/{{The Smurfs|1981}}, the 1987 ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'' (and, by TMNT Forever, the 2003 series and the original comics), WesternAnimation/MuppetBabies, Series/{{ALF}}, WesternAnimation/AlvinandtheChipmunks WesternAnimation/AlvinAndTheChipmunks and WesternAnimation/TheRealGhostbusters into the mix. Going by the company logic, Nickelodeon is brought in by [=TMNT's=] presence as present owner. And if we stretch it, Literature/HarryPotter is brought in by the film series being produced by WB. Any bets that we'll run into something like TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} sooner or later if we keep finding links?



* this would also explain why Kirby can use some of his powers without eating beasties (am i the only person who dislikes this?), master hand found that those were the powers he used most often

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* this This would also explain why Kirby can use some of his powers without eating beasties (am i the only person who dislikes this?), master hand found that those were the powers he used most often



[[WMG: Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are [[VideoGame/{{Killer7}} Harman Smith, Kun Lan, and Iwazaru.]]]]

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[[WMG: Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are [[VideoGame/{{Killer7}} [[VideoGame/Killer7 Harman Smith, Kun Lan, and Iwazaru.]]]]



Master Hand created the world of the trophies, so he fits in with being Brahma the Creator. SSBB explicitly states that Crazy Hand is a destructive force opposing Master Hand, thus he can be likened to Shiva the Destroyer. This leaves Tabuu, who's like Vishnu the Preserver, [[spoiler:gathering together all the interesting people and places of the world in his domain, where they would stay for eternity, had Dedede's Main/GambitRoulette not come to fruition]].

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Master Hand created the world of the trophies, so he fits in with being Brahma the Creator. SSBB explicitly states that Crazy Hand is a destructive force opposing Master Hand, thus he can be likened to Shiva the Destroyer. This leaves Tabuu, who's like Vishnu the Preserver, [[spoiler:gathering together all the interesting people and places of the world in his domain, where they would stay for eternity, had Dedede's Main/GambitRoulette GambitRoulette not come to fruition]].



In short, a world where Nintendo characters (plus one blue hedgehog and a [[Main/RougeAnglesOfSatin rouge]] [=FoxHound=] agent) fight and turn into life-sized trophies upon defeat doesn't make much in the way of sense. The only way it could make sense is if, indeed, Snake is playing out a, albeit rather outlandish by Kojima standards, virtual simulation to get up to speed in terms of combat since the events of MGS 2.

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In short, a world where Nintendo characters (plus one blue hedgehog and a [[Main/RougeAnglesOfSatin [[RougeAnglesOfSatin rouge]] [=FoxHound=] agent) fight and turn into life-sized trophies upon defeat doesn't make much in the way of sense. The only way it could make sense is if, indeed, Snake is playing out a, albeit rather outlandish by Kojima standards, virtual simulation to get up to speed in terms of combat since the events of MGS 2.



[[WMG: Luigi has somehow gotten his hand on [[Manga/Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure Dio's]] "The World" Stand and all his negative thoughts about being in Mario's Shadow has lead to his Negative Zone final Smash.]]

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[[WMG: Luigi has somehow gotten his hand on [[Manga/Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure Dio's]] "The World" Stand and all his negative thoughts about being in Mario's Shadow has lead to his Negative Zone final Smash.]]



In VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy, there are two Luigis: the playable one and the one who you rescue and who subsequently finds stars for you. One of them is the "normal" Luigi who has no seemingly occult powers, and the other is the Brawl-playable one who knows the ways of the Negative Zone. As much as it carries the implication that we're not really playing as Luigi in Brawl, or at least not the "true" one, on the other hand, this troper is a fan of Luigi and thinks that he might have gotten a bit too weird in Brawl. I've also mentioned this idea in [[WMG/SuperMarioBros the WMG page for Super Mario Bros.]]

[[WMG: Luigi will have Negative Zone replaced by something else in Smash 4...]]

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In VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy, ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'', there are two Luigis: the playable one and the one who you rescue and who subsequently finds stars for you. One of them is the "normal" Luigi who has no seemingly occult powers, and the other is the Brawl-playable one who knows the ways of the Negative Zone. As much as it carries the implication that we're not really playing as Luigi in Brawl, or at least not the "true" one, on the other hand, this troper is a fan of Luigi and thinks that he might have gotten a bit too weird in Brawl. I've also mentioned this idea in [[WMG/SuperMarioBros the WMG page for Super Mario Bros.]]

[[WMG: Luigi will have Negative Zone replaced by something else in Smash 4...''Smash 4''...]]



Think about it. In Brawl, Pikachu has one of Pichu's taunts, two of Pichu's costumes from Melee (in particular, the goggles) and, of course, it knows Volt Tackle, a move that can only be known by a Pikachu evolved from a Pichu.
* Not to mention it can wall jump -- something that Pichu could do, but Melee's Pikachu couldn't.
** Correction: Pikachu could in Melee. Many stories are made up (possibly) because everyone hated Pichu... yet missed him in Brawl.

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Think about it. In Brawl, ''Brawl'', Pikachu has one of Pichu's taunts, two of Pichu's costumes from Melee ''Melee'' (in particular, the goggles) and, of course, it knows Volt Tackle, a move that can only be known by a Pikachu evolved from a Pichu.
* Not to mention it can wall jump -- something that Pichu could do, but Melee's ''Melee'''s Pikachu couldn't.
** Correction: Pikachu could in Melee.''Melee''. Many stories are made up (possibly) because everyone hated Pichu... yet missed him in Brawl.''Brawl''.



** Perhaps the Pikachu from Melee evolved into Raichu, justifying the need for a replacement Pikachu.

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** Perhaps the Pikachu from Melee ''Melee'' evolved into Raichu, justifying the need for a replacement Pikachu.



[[WMG: The [[VideoGame/IceClimber Ice Climbers]] as seen in this game, intentionally or not, represents two faces of {{Yandere}}.]]

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[[WMG: The [[VideoGame/IceClimber Ice Climbers]] VideoGame/{{Ice Climber}}s as seen in this game, intentionally or not, represents two faces of {{Yandere}}.]]



* Let's extend it even farther; in the first game, the characters are plushes. In Melee, they are trophies. Why? The Master Hand's friend, the Crazy Hand, brought over a bunch of character trophies from the second series of Nintendo's "Smash Bros." toy line, the successor to the Master Hand's collection of plush dolls. The friend is a bit more destructive (and thus perhaps younger) than the Master Hand, and, of course, left-handed. Their playtime depicted in Melee convinces the Master Hand to start collecting them, but he was unable to find the out-of-print Mewtwo, Roy, Pichu, Young Link, and Dr. Mario trophies in time for Brawl. The Crazy Hand comes back over to play during Classic and Boss Battles, but his absence in [=SSE=] means he wasn't playing over that day.
* And the ungloved hand in Melee's opening? Notice how it's the ''left hand'', and how it throws the Mario trophy rather haphazardly. That hand is the Crazy Hand, before Tabuu comes in and tells him that, in their house, they have a rule that you have to wear gloves when playing with toys so you don't hurt yourself. Tabuu is ''really'' overprotective.

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* Let's extend it even farther; in the first game, the characters are plushes. In Melee, ''Melee'', they are trophies. Why? The Master Hand's friend, the Crazy Hand, brought over a bunch of character trophies from the second series of Nintendo's "Smash Bros." toy line, the successor to the Master Hand's collection of plush dolls. The friend is a bit more destructive (and thus perhaps younger) than the Master Hand, and, of course, left-handed. Their playtime depicted in Melee convinces the Master Hand to start collecting them, but he was unable to find the out-of-print Mewtwo, Roy, Pichu, Young Link, and Dr. Mario trophies in time for Brawl.''Brawl''. The Crazy Hand comes back over to play during Classic and Boss Battles, but his absence in [=SSE=] means he wasn't playing over that day.
* And the ungloved hand in Melee's ''Melee'''s opening? Notice how it's the ''left hand'', and how it throws the Mario trophy rather haphazardly. That hand is the Crazy Hand, before Tabuu comes in and tells him that, in their house, they have a rule that you have to wear gloves when playing with toys so you don't hurt yourself. Tabuu is ''really'' overprotective.



* The characters which must be "unlocked" are either "lost" (for example, Ness in Brawl) by MH or "new" (as in the case of MK, Sonic, etc.). The "areas" merely represent the aforementioned "playsets." The subspace bombs and "arrow-shootin' guns" in Brawl may represent putting them away in boxes to simplify clean-up. As for the Ancient Minister and Dr. Mario, Mario and R.O.B. just came in regular and "collector's edition" versions.

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* The characters which must be "unlocked" are either "lost" (for example, Ness in Brawl) ''Brawl'') by MH or "new" (as in the case of MK, Sonic, etc.). The "areas" merely represent the aforementioned "playsets." The subspace bombs and "arrow-shootin' guns" in Brawl ''Brawl'' may represent putting them away in boxes to simplify clean-up. As for the Ancient Minister and Dr. Mario, Mario and R.O.B. just came in regular and "collector's edition" versions.



First of all, it's a Main/FloatingContinent with just about the same shape as Angel Island is shown to have in the Sonic Games. Second, if you watch the cutscene where Samus and Pikachu leave the Research Facility, you can see a stone altar that looks almost exactly like the Shrine of the Master Emerald, sans Emeralds. As a [[Main/PhoenixWrightAceAttourney wise judge]] once said: "two conicidences pointing to the same thing seems more like a pattern".

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First of all, it's a Main/FloatingContinent FloatingContinent with just about the same shape as Angel Island is shown to have in the Sonic Games. Second, if you watch the cutscene where Samus and Pikachu leave the Research Facility, you can see a stone altar that looks almost exactly like the Shrine of the Master Emerald, sans Emeralds. As a [[Main/PhoenixWrightAceAttourney [[VideoGame/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney wise judge]] once said: "two conicidences pointing to the same thing seems more like a pattern".
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*** Well, a lot of them didn’t have any new games after that, though, despite being well-remembered. Something akin to [[WesternAnimation/TheBookOfLife The Land of the Remembered]] is a thing, a paradisiacal afterlife for well-remembered but dead IPs and characters, which can potentially be attacked by the likes of Galleem. It is the new home of series like Frogger. This also explains why Sherrif, for example, is only an ancient sprite; he’s a ghost firing shots from the afterlife. If he was still alive, he would still be a 3D model like everyone else. There may or may not be a Land of the Forgotten as well… or is that Subspace?

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*** Well, a lot of them didn’t have any new games after that, though, despite being well-remembered. Something akin to [[WesternAnimation/TheBookOfLife The Land of the Remembered]] is a thing, a paradisiacal afterlife for well-remembered but dead IPs franchises and characters, which can potentially be attacked by the likes of Galleem. It is the new home of series like Frogger. This also explains why Sherrif, for example, is only an ancient sprite; he’s a ghost firing shots from the afterlife.afterlife, due to his minimal legacy at Nintendo outside of this series. If he was still alive, he would still be a 3D model like everyone else. There may or may not be a Land of the Forgotten as well… or is that Subspace?



* Hmm, does this all mean that Galeem and Darhkon also represent something? Maybe Galleom is the embodiment of the worst aspects of mobile gaming, while Dharkon is the embodiment of bloated, faceless Western game corporations that chronically kill their developers and bury franchises under oodles of copyright entanglements? Both have become bigger threats to Nintendo than the Xbox has, which is why they were able to defeat Tabuu.

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* Hmm, does this all mean that Galeem and Darhkon also represent something? Maybe Galleom Galeem, with his bright and angelic exterior hiding the fact he turns everything in sight into Spirits, even franchises in the afterlife, is the embodiment of the worst aspects of mobile gaming, while Dharkon is the embodiment of bloated, faceless Western game corporations that chronically kill their developers and bury franchises under oodles of copyright entanglements? Both have become bigger threats to Nintendo than the Xbox has, which is why they were able to defeat Tabuu.
Tabuu, plus why some Microsoft characters even fight alongside the Nintendo ones. If Tabuu embodies dead companies, it would explain why Terry showed up to help.

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