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** ''PlayedWith'' -- it's Tom who ends up in charge. Greg does get to keep his job, though.

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** ''PlayedWith'' '''PlayedWith''' -- it's Tom who ends up in charge. Greg does get to keep his job, though.job at Waystar, though, so he ends up in a better position than the Roy siblings.

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** ''PlayedWith'' -- it's Tom who ends up in charge. Greg does get to keep his job, though.

!!Despite what Roman claims, Iverson is Kendall's biological son
In the finale, Roman tells an increasingly unstable Kendall that neither of his children are "bloodline" Roys -- [[AdoptionDiss Sophie was adopted]], while [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe Iverson isn't his (Ken's) biological son]]. He adds that Logan told him that, and that well and truly pushes Ken's last BerserkButton, ruining for good his chances of taking over the company. While it's pretty clear that he's right about Sophie (who's of a different ethnicity to her parents), he's wrong about Iverson -- Logan made that up. It would be entirely in keeping for [[AbusiveParents a man]] [[{{Jerkass}} like Logan]] to be disgusted with the idea of having a grandson with developmental issues (it's even hinted at in his [[IWantGrandkids conversation with Tom]] in "Hunting"), and to try and distance himself from the boy by claiming that they're not biologically related -- which simulatenously serves to undermine his "number one boy" behind his back by calling his manhood into question (given that the most likely conclusions anyone would draw from this allegation would be either that Rava cheated on him, or they were only able to conceive with a sperm donation -- neither of which was ever even hinted at in the series).

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** ''PlayedWith'' -- it's Tom who ends up in charge. Greg does get to keep his job, though.

!!Despite what Roman claims, Iverson is Kendall's biological son
In the finale, Roman tells an increasingly unstable Kendall that neither of his children are "bloodline" Roys -- [[AdoptionDiss Sophie was adopted]], while [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe Iverson isn't his (Ken's) biological son]]. He adds that Logan told him that, and that well and truly pushes Ken's last BerserkButton, ruining for good his chances of taking over the company. While it's pretty clear that he's right about Sophie (who's of a different ethnicity to her parents), he's wrong about Iverson -- Logan made that up. It would be entirely in keeping for [[AbusiveParents a man]] [[{{Jerkass}} like Logan]] to be disgusted with the idea of having a grandson with developmental issues (it's even hinted at in his [[IWantGrandkids conversation with Tom]] in "Hunting"), and to try and distance himself from the boy by claiming that they're not biologically related -- which simulatenously serves to undermine his "number one boy" behind his back by calling his manhood into question (given that the most likely conclusions anyone would draw from this allegation would be either that Rava cheated on him, or they were only able to conceive with a sperm donation -- neither of which was ever even hinted at in the series).
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* Jossed: While she does remind Kendall of the incident in the finale, this is in private and he claims that he made it up.

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* Jossed: While '''Jossed''' -- while she does remind Kendall of the incident in the finale, this is in private and he claims that he made it up.



** PlayedWith: It’s Tom who ends up in charge. Greg does wind up with a fairly high position, though.

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** PlayedWith: It’s ''PlayedWith'' -- it's Tom who ends up in charge. Greg does wind up get to keep his job, though.

!!Despite what Roman claims, Iverson is Kendall's biological son
In the finale, Roman tells an increasingly unstable Kendall that neither of his children are "bloodline" Roys -- [[AdoptionDiss Sophie was adopted]], while [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe Iverson isn't his (Ken's) biological son]]. He adds that Logan told him that, and that well and truly pushes Ken's last BerserkButton, ruining for good his chances of taking over the company. While it's pretty clear that he's right about Sophie (who's of a different ethnicity to her parents), he's wrong about Iverson -- Logan made that up. It would be entirely in keeping for [[AbusiveParents a man]] [[{{Jerkass}} like Logan]] to be disgusted with the idea of having a grandson with developmental issues (it's even hinted at in his [[IWantGrandkids conversation with Tom]] in "Hunting"), and to try and distance himself from the boy by claiming that they're not biologically related -- which simulatenously serves to undermine his "number one boy" behind his back by calling his manhood into question (given that the most likely conclusions anyone would draw from this allegation would be either that Rava cheated on him, or they were only able to conceive
with a fairly high position, though.sperm donation -- neither of which was ever even hinted at in the series).
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* PlayedWith: It’s Tom who ends up in charge. Greg does wind up with a fairly high position, though.

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* ** PlayedWith: It’s Tom who ends up in charge. Greg does wind up with a fairly high position, though.
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* Jossed/PlayedWith: It’s Tom who ends up in charge. Greg does wind up with a fairly high position, though.

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* Jossed/PlayedWith: PlayedWith: It’s Tom who ends up in charge. Greg does wind up with a fairly high position, though.
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* Jossed: While she does remind Kendall of the incident in the finale, this is in private and he claims that he made it up.



* Others have noticed Greg's potential. Tom, who shares his outsider status in the Roy family, is more aware of this than most. Kendall, who once described Greg as "Machiavellian", is aware of it too.

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* Others have noticed Greg's potential. Tom, who shares his outsider status in the Roy family, is more aware of this than most. Kendall, who once described Greg as "Machiavellian", is aware of it too.too.
* Jossed/PlayedWith: It’s Tom who ends up in charge. Greg does wind up with a fairly high position, though.
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* '''Jossed''' as of "America Decides"; when she finally tells Tom that she's pregnant, she also tells him that it's his.
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!!Shiv will expose the waiter incident
She’s one of two (living) people who knows, Kendall’s trying to ice her out of the business, and she found out that Mattson’s offer is complete BS. Not to mention, she wrote the open letter against Kendall in Season 3. While Roman’s probably too shattered to even remember the incident, Shiv is angry. When Kendall goes a step too far in getting her out of Waystar, she’ll tell.
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She's been pretty much in favour of them having an open relationship, so it stands to reason that she ''could'' have been sleeping around.

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She's cheated on him before and has been pretty much in favour of them having an open relationship, so it stands to reason that she ''could'' have been sleeping around.
the man who got her pregnant may not be the man she's married to.



* Logan saw it, which was why he encouraged him to stick around at Waystar when Greg was wavering about quitting after Ewan threatened to disinherit him. Logan also wrote Greg's name (with a question mark next to it, admittedly) on the piece of paper that named Kendall as his successor but muddied the waters by a mark that [[AmbiguousSituation either underlines Kendall's name or crosses it out]]. Given that Greg does not have the massive emotional baggage that his cousins carry as a result of actually being raised by Logan, it could be that, although he probably would never have acknowledged that he was responsible for them being screw-ups, Logan saw Greg as the OnlySaneMan of the Roy family's next generation, and therefore the best option for keeping the business in the family. After all, Greg was the only one who had the balls to tell Kerry that her audition sucked (OK, he was forced into it, but he still did it when everyone else was too scared to do so) and he went as far as to to have sex with that random woman in Logan's apartment — acts of defiance that Logan appreciated in his own way.

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* Logan saw it, which was why he encouraged him to stick around at Waystar when Greg was wavering about quitting after Ewan threatened to disinherit him. Logan also wrote Greg's name (with a question mark next to it, admittedly) on the piece of paper that named Kendall as his successor but muddied the waters by adding a mark line that [[AmbiguousSituation either underlines underlined Kendall's name or crosses crossed it out]]. Given that Greg does not have the massive emotional baggage that his cousins carry as a result of actually being raised by Logan, it could be that, although he probably would never have acknowledged that he was responsible for them being screw-ups, Logan saw Greg as the OnlySaneMan of the Roy family's next generation, and therefore the best option for keeping the business in the family. After all, Greg was the only one who had the balls to tell Kerry that her audition sucked (OK, he was forced into it, but he still did it when everyone else was too scared to do so) and he went as far as to to have sex with that random woman in Logan's apartment — acts of defiance that Logan appreciated in his own way.

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He's either playing up the ObfuscatingStupidity for all it's worth, or he genuinely does not realise the potential he has; if it's the latter, that will change as he becomes more adept at playing the corporate game.
* Logan saw it, which was why he encouraged him to stick around at Waystar and wrote his name (with a question mark next to it, admittedly) on the piece of paper that named Kendall as his successor, followed by [[AmbiguousSituation either underlining his name or crossing it out]].
* Others have noticed that Greg has the potential to be better than any of his cousins who, unlike him, bear the emotional scars of being raised by Logan which is crippling their behaviour as adults; although he probably would never have acknowledged that he was responsible for them being screw-ups, Logan saw Greg as the OnlySaneMan of the Roy family's next generation, and therefore the best option for keeping the business in the family. After all, Greg was the only one who had the balls to tell Kerry that her audition sucked (OK, he was forced into it, but he still did it when everyone else was too scared to do so) and he went as far as to to have sex with that random woman in Logan's apartment — acts of defiance that Logan appreciated in his own way. As of "Kill List", Tom is more aware of this than most. Kendall, who once described Greg as "Machiavellian" is aware of it too.

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He's either playing up the ObfuscatingStupidity for all it's worth, or he genuinely does not realise the potential he has; if it's the latter, that will change as he becomes more adept at playing the corporate game.game -- in short, a CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass who becomes less of a moron and more of a badass.
* Logan saw it, which was why he encouraged him to stick around at Waystar and when Greg was wavering about quitting after Ewan threatened to disinherit him. Logan also wrote his Greg's name (with a question mark next to it, admittedly) on the piece of paper that named Kendall as his successor, followed successor but muddied the waters by a mark that [[AmbiguousSituation either underlining his underlines Kendall's name or crossing crosses it out]].
* Others have noticed
out]]. Given that Greg has does not have the potential to be better than any of massive emotional baggage that his cousins who, unlike him, bear the emotional scars carry as a result of actually being raised by Logan which is crippling their behaviour as adults; Logan, it could be that, although he probably would never have acknowledged that he was responsible for them being screw-ups, Logan saw Greg as the OnlySaneMan of the Roy family's next generation, and therefore the best option for keeping the business in the family. After all, Greg was the only one who had the balls to tell Kerry that her audition sucked (OK, he was forced into it, but he still did it when everyone else was too scared to do so) and he went as far as to to have sex with that random woman in Logan's apartment — acts of defiance that Logan appreciated in his own way. As of "Kill List", Tom
* Others have noticed Greg's potential. Tom, who shares his outsider status in the Roy family,
is more aware of this than most. Kendall, who once described Greg as "Machiavellian" "Machiavellian", is aware of it too.

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* Others have noticed that Greg has the potential to be better than any of his cousins who, unlike him, bear the emotional scars of being raised by Logan which is crippling their behaviour as adults; although he probably would never have acknowledged that he was responsible for them being screw-ups, Logan saw Greg as the OnlySaneMan of the Roy family's next generation, and therefore the best option for keeping the business in the family. After all, Greg was the only one who had the balls to tell Kerry that her audition sucked, and he was badass enough to have sex with that random woman in Logan's apartment — acts of defiance that Logan appreciated in his own way. As of "Kill List", Tom is more aware of this than most.

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* Others have noticed that Greg has the potential to be better than any of his cousins who, unlike him, bear the emotional scars of being raised by Logan which is crippling their behaviour as adults; although he probably would never have acknowledged that he was responsible for them being screw-ups, Logan saw Greg as the OnlySaneMan of the Roy family's next generation, and therefore the best option for keeping the business in the family. After all, Greg was the only one who had the balls to tell Kerry that her audition sucked, sucked (OK, he was forced into it, but he still did it when everyone else was too scared to do so) and he was badass enough went as far as to to have sex with that random woman in Logan's apartment — acts of defiance that Logan appreciated in his own way. As of "Kill List", Tom is more aware of this than most. Kendall, who once described Greg as "Machiavellian" is aware of it too.
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* Others have noticed that Greg has the potential to be better than any of his cousins who, unlike him, bear the emotional scars of being raised by Logan which is crippling their behaviour as adults; although he probably would never have acknowledged that he was responsible for them being screw-ups, Logan saw Greg as the OnlySanePerson of the Roy family's next generation, and therefore the best option for keeping the business in the family. After all, Greg was the only one who had the balls to tell Kerry that her audition sucked, and he was badass enough to have sex with that random woman in Logan's apartment — acts of defiance that Logan appreciated in his own way. As of "Kill List", Tom is more aware of this than most.

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* Others have noticed that Greg has the potential to be better than any of his cousins who, unlike him, bear the emotional scars of being raised by Logan which is crippling their behaviour as adults; although he probably would never have acknowledged that he was responsible for them being screw-ups, Logan saw Greg as the OnlySanePerson OnlySaneMan of the Roy family's next generation, and therefore the best option for keeping the business in the family. After all, Greg was the only one who had the balls to tell Kerry that her audition sucked, and he was badass enough to have sex with that random woman in Logan's apartment — acts of defiance that Logan appreciated in his own way. As of "Kill List", Tom is more aware of this than most.

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* Logan saw it (one outsider recognising another), which was why he encouraged him to stick around at Waystar and wrote his name (with a question mark next to it, admittedly) on the piece of paper that named Kendall as his successor, followed by [[AmbiguousSituation either underlining his name or crossing it out]].
* Others have noticed that Greg has the potential to be better than any of his cousins (who, unlike him, bear the emotional scars of being raised by Logan which is crippling their behaviour as adults) — after all, he was the only one who had the balls to tell Kerry that her audition sucked, and he was badass enough to have sex with that random woman in Logan's apartment. As of "Kill List", Tom is more aware of this than most.

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* Logan saw it (one outsider recognising another), it, which was why he encouraged him to stick around at Waystar and wrote his name (with a question mark next to it, admittedly) on the piece of paper that named Kendall as his successor, followed by [[AmbiguousSituation either underlining his name or crossing it out]].
* Others have noticed that Greg has the potential to be better than any of his cousins (who, who, unlike him, bear the emotional scars of being raised by Logan which is crippling their behaviour as adults) — after adults; although he probably would never have acknowledged that he was responsible for them being screw-ups, Logan saw Greg as the OnlySanePerson of the Roy family's next generation, and therefore the best option for keeping the business in the family. After all, he Greg was the only one who had the balls to tell Kerry that her audition sucked, and he was badass enough to have sex with that random woman in Logan's apartment.apartment — acts of defiance that Logan appreciated in his own way. As of "Kill List", Tom is more aware of this than most.
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He's either playing up the ObfuscatingStupidity for all it's worth, or he genuinely does not realise the potential he has. Logan saw it, which was why he encouraged him to stick around at Waystar and wrote his name (with a question mark next to it, admittedly) on the piece of paper that named Kendall as his successor, followed by [[AmbiguousSituation either underlining his name or crossing it out]]. Others have noticed that Greg has the potential to be better than any of his cousins (who, unlike him, bear the emotional scars of being raised by Logan which is crippling their behaviour as adults) — after all, he was the only one who had the balls to tell Kerry that her audition sucked, and he was badass enough to have sex with that random woman in Logan's apartment.

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He's either playing up the ObfuscatingStupidity for all it's worth, or he genuinely does not realise the potential he has. has; if it's the latter, that will change as he becomes more adept at playing the corporate game.
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Logan saw it, it (one outsider recognising another), which was why he encouraged him to stick around at Waystar and wrote his name (with a question mark next to it, admittedly) on the piece of paper that named Kendall as his successor, followed by [[AmbiguousSituation either underlining his name or crossing it out]]. out]].
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Others have noticed that Greg has the potential to be better than any of his cousins (who, unlike him, bear the emotional scars of being raised by Logan which is crippling their behaviour as adults) — after all, he was the only one who had the balls to tell Kerry that her audition sucked, and he was badass enough to have sex with that random woman in Logan's apartment.apartment. As of "Kill List", Tom is more aware of this than most.
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That's why he kept Mo around, as he knew he could spill the beans if he was let go. We know that Logan emotionally (and perhaps physically) abused his own children and always treated his underlings like shit, so it stands to reason that he could have been one of the abusers.

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That's why he kept Mo around, as he knew he could spill the beans if he was let go. We know that Logan emotionally (and perhaps physically) abused his own children and always usually treated his underlings like shit, so it stands to reason that he could have been one of the abusers.
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That's why he kept Mo around, as he knew he could spill the beans if he was let go. We know that Logan emotionally abused his own children and always treated his underlings like shit, so it stands to reason that he could have been one of the abusers.

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That's why he kept Mo around, as he knew he could spill the beans if he was let go. We know that Logan emotionally (and perhaps physically) abused his own children and always treated his underlings like shit, so it stands to reason that he could have been one of the abusers.
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These relate to the final series. As s result, '''all spoilers are unmarked on this page.'''

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These relate to the final series. As s result, Be warned that '''all spoilers are unmarked on this page.'''
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He's either playing up the ObfuscatingStupidity for all it's worth, or he genuinely does not realise the potential he has. Logan saw it, which was why he encouraged him to stick around at Waystar and wrote his name (with a question mark next to it, admittedly) on the piece of paper that named Kendall as his successor, followed my either underlining his name or crossing it out. Others have noticed that Greg has the potential to be better than any of his cousins (who, unlike him, bear the emotional scars of being raised by Logan which is crippling their behaviour as adults) — after all, he was the only one who had the balls to tell Kerry that her audition sucked, and he was badass enough to have sex with that random woman in Logan's apartment.

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He's either playing up the ObfuscatingStupidity for all it's worth, or he genuinely does not realise the potential he has. Logan saw it, which was why he encouraged him to stick around at Waystar and wrote his name (with a question mark next to it, admittedly) on the piece of paper that named Kendall as his successor, followed my by [[AmbiguousSituation either underlining his name or crossing it out.out]]. Others have noticed that Greg has the potential to be better than any of his cousins (who, unlike him, bear the emotional scars of being raised by Logan which is crippling their behaviour as adults) — after all, he was the only one who had the balls to tell Kerry that her audition sucked, and he was badass enough to have sex with that random woman in Logan's apartment.
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!!Logan was personally involved in the cruise ship abuse
That's why he kept Mo around, as he knew he could spill the beans if he was let go. We know that Logan emotionally abused his own children and always treated his underlings like shit, so it stands to reason that he could have been one of the abusers.

!!Shiv's baby isn't Tom's
She's been pretty much in favour of them having an open relationship, so it stands to reason that she ''could'' have been sleeping around.

!!Greg will end up in charge
He's either playing up the ObfuscatingStupidity for all it's worth, or he genuinely does not realise the potential he has. Logan saw it, which was why he encouraged him to stick around at Waystar and wrote his name (with a question mark next to it, admittedly) on the piece of paper that named Kendall as his successor, followed my either underlining his name or crossing it out. Others have noticed that Greg has the potential to be better than any of his cousins (who, unlike him, bear the emotional scars of being raised by Logan which is crippling their behaviour as adults) — after all, he was the only one who had the balls to tell Kerry that her audition sucked, and he was badass enough to have sex with that random woman in Logan's apartment.

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