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** [[ADateWithRosiePalms She obviously does]]. It does raise certain questions, though; Season one's timeline is hard to pin down but it seems that at the time Illithya arranged to fuck a gladiator, she hadn't seen Glaber in a bit and it wasn't until the season finale some time later that they saw each other again. If this turns out to be the case, how long before Glaber realizes the timeline in Illithya's pregnancy is off?

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** [[ADateWithRosiePalms She obviously does]].does. It does raise certain questions, though; Season one's timeline is hard to pin down but it seems that at the time Illithya arranged to fuck a gladiator, she hadn't seen Glaber in a bit and it wasn't until the season finale some time later that they saw each other again. If this turns out to be the case, how long before Glaber realizes the timeline in Illithya's pregnancy is off?
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* The whole UsefulNotes/TrojanWar thing just turned into too much of a debacle, and Hephaestus decided that for their next entertainment they would aim a little lower (and pick a historical event that did not have so much active involvement from the gods themselves). So this time they setup the Third Servile War. As an added bonus, the war was less thoroughly documented and there was more room to play with the characters and their individual lives, rather than trying to keep the whole thing consistent with a piece of literature like ''Literature/TheIliad''. They might have even used Mars as the location again, which would account for why Italy looks so uncharacteristically bleak.

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* The whole UsefulNotes/TrojanWar UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar thing just turned into too much of a debacle, and Hephaestus decided that for their next entertainment they would aim a little lower (and pick a historical event that did not have so much active involvement from the gods themselves). So this time they setup the Third Servile War. As an added bonus, the war was less thoroughly documented and there was more room to play with the characters and their individual lives, rather than trying to keep the whole thing consistent with a piece of literature like ''Literature/TheIliad''. They might have even used Mars as the location again, which would account for why Italy looks so uncharacteristically bleak.

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[[WMG: ''Spartacus'' is set in the shame shared universe as all the following...]]

- ''Apocalypto''

- ''Solomon Kane'' (the 2009 film)

- ''Centurion''

- ''Bone Tomahawk''

- ''The Revenant''

- ''The Shield''

- ''Breaking Bad'', ''Better Call Saul'' and ''El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie''

- ''Sons Of Anarchy'' and ''Mayans MC''

- ''Transformers Prime''

- ''Keepers Of The Lost Cities'' (Book Series)

- ''Tales From The Crypt Presents Demon Knight''

- ''Deathwatch''

- ''Overlord''

- ''The Incredibles''

- ''Shameless'' (U.S.)

- ''Where Eagles Dare''

- ''We Were Soldiers''

- ''Kingdom Of Heaven'' - Director's Cut

- ''The Mummy'' (1999)

- ''Pair Of Kings''

- ''Megamind''

- ''Despicable Me'', ''Despicable Me 2'', ''Minions'', ''Despicable Me 3'' and ''Minions: The Rise Of Gru''

- ''Crimson Peak''

- ''Annihilation''

- ''The Old Guard''

- ''300'' (the 2006 film)

- ''Excalibur''

- ''Cronos''

- ''Mimic''

- ''Chronicle''

- ''Lights Out''

- ''The Northman''

- ''Conan The Barbarian'' (1982)

- ''Pirates Of The Caribbean: The Curse Of The Black Pearl'', ''Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest'' and ''Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End''

and finally last but not least

- ''Shazam!'' (2019)

* Theokoles is a [[Franchise/{{Highlander}} Highlander-style Immortal]].
* Spartacus take place in the same universe as ''Film/ThreeHundred''.
** Theokoles is a descendant of Leonidas. In the motion comic, it's mentioned that Theokoles' DisappearedDad was a Spartan.

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[[WMG: ''Spartacus'' is set in the shame shared universe as all the following...]]

- ''Apocalypto''

- ''Solomon Kane'' (the 2009 film)

- ''Centurion''

- ''Bone Tomahawk''

- ''The Revenant''

- ''The Shield''

- ''Breaking Bad'', ''Better Call Saul'' and ''El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie''

- ''Sons Of Anarchy'' and ''Mayans MC''

- ''Transformers Prime''

- ''Keepers Of The Lost Cities'' (Book Series)

- ''Tales From The Crypt Presents Demon Knight''

- ''Deathwatch''

- ''Overlord''

- ''The Incredibles''

- ''Shameless'' (U.S.)

- ''Where Eagles Dare''

- ''We Were Soldiers''

- ''Kingdom Of Heaven'' - Director's Cut

- ''The Mummy'' (1999)

- ''Pair Of Kings''

- ''Megamind''

- ''Despicable Me'', ''Despicable Me 2'', ''Minions'', ''Despicable Me 3'' and ''Minions: The Rise Of Gru''

- ''Crimson Peak''

- ''Annihilation''

- ''The Old Guard''

- ''300'' (the 2006 film)

- ''Excalibur''

- ''Cronos''

- ''Mimic''

- ''Chronicle''

- ''Lights Out''

- ''The Northman''

- ''Conan The Barbarian'' (1982)

- ''Pirates Of The Caribbean: The Curse Of The Black Pearl'', ''Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest'' and ''Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End''

and finally last but not least

- ''Shazam!'' (2019)

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Theokoles is a [[Franchise/{{Highlander}} Highlander-style Immortal]].
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Spartacus take place in the same universe as ''Film/ThreeHundred''.
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- ''Lights Out''

- ''The Northman''

- ''Conan The Barbarian'' (1982)

- ''Pirates Of The Caribbean: The Curse Of The Black Pearl'', ''Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest'' and ''Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End''

and finally last but not least

- ''Shazam!'' (2019)
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- ''The Old Guard''

- ''300'' (the 2006 film)

- ''Excalibur''

- ''Cronos''

- ''Mimic''

- ''Chronicle''
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- ''Megamind''

- ''Despicable Me'', ''Despicable Me 2'', ''Minions'', ''Despicable Me 3'' and ''Minions: The Rise Of Gru''

- ''Crimson Peak''

- ''Annihilation''
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[[WMG: ''Spartacus'' is set in the shame shared universe as all the following...]]

- ''Apocalypto''

- ''Solomon Kane'' (the 2009 film)

- ''Centurion''

- ''Bone Tomahawk''

- ''The Revenant''

- ''The Shield''

- ''Breaking Bad'', ''Better Call Saul'' and ''El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie''

- ''Sons Of Anarchy'' and ''Mayans MC''

- ''Transformers Prime''

- ''Keepers Of The Lost Cities'' (Book Series)

- ''Tales From The Crypt Presents Demon Knight''

- ''Deathwatch''

- ''Overlord''

- ''The Incredibles''

- ''Shameless'' (U.S.)

- ''Where Eagles Dare''

- ''We Were Soldiers''

- ''Kingdom Of Heaven'' - Director's Cut

- ''The Mummy'' (1999)

- ''Pair Of Kings''
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* Spartacus take place in the same universe as ''ThreeHundred''.

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* Spartacus take place in the same universe as ''ThreeHundred''.''Film/ThreeHundred''.
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Sura's vision about Spartacus "kneeling before a red serpent" is generally thought to refer to his first battle in the arena, and to the events of the series finale. But, what if it also refers to Spartacus's enslavement to the House of the Batiatus and, in particular, the threat Lucretia poses due to her hatred of him? Who does Spartacus get enslaved by? Batiatus and his wife Lucretia. What colour does Lucretia frequently wear? Red (be it dresses or wigs). What animal is Lucretia associated with? The snake (her father-in-law outright calls her a serpent, she has be known to use poison on her enemies, she 'drips poison' into the ears of those she manipulates and she also occasionally wears a bracelet with a snake on it).

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Sura's vision about Spartacus "kneeling before a red serpent" is generally thought to refer to his first battle in the arena, and to the events of the series finale. But, what if it also refers to Spartacus's enslavement to the House of the Batiatus and, in particular, the threat Lucretia poses due to her hatred of him? Who does Spartacus get enslaved by? Batiatus and his wife Lucretia. What colour does Lucretia frequently wear? Red (be it dresses or wigs). What animal is Lucretia associated with? The snake (her father-in-law outright calls her a serpent, she has be known to use poison on her enemies, she 'drips poison' into the ears of those she manipulates and she also occasionally wears a bracelet with a snake on it).it).

[[WMG: The series takes place in ''Series/{{Westworld}}'']]
Westworld is just one of many parks run by the Delos corporation; one of the other established parks is Romanworld. Now, the go to show to be labeled as actually being Romanworld is, of course, ''Series/{{Rome}}'', but as ''Westworld'' demonstrates, major storylines and narratives are shifted all the time in the park, and there's no reason that ''Spartacus'' couldn't be a replacement narrative for ''Rome's'' storyline, acting as an action packed prequel or some such. It would explain, among other things, the various instances of TheOtherDarrin and the major changes to the historical account of the Third Servile War that are listed under the artistic license history entry on the main page.
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It doesn't really matter seeing as [[spoiler: she is killed in the final battle]], but her repeatedly looking at babies in the Rebel camp and her conversation about starting a family with Crixus [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation could be interpreted]] as her already knowing she's pregnant and simply having not told Crixus yet. Then, during the final battle, after being [[spoiler: stabbed by Caesar]], she holds her stomach and seems to look down at it with a sad expression [[spoiler: even though this wasn't where she was stabbed]]: possibly thinking of her unborn child?

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It doesn't really matter seeing as [[spoiler: she is killed in the final battle]], but her repeatedly looking at babies in the Rebel camp and her conversation about starting a family with Crixus [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation could be interpreted]] as her already knowing she's pregnant and simply having not told Crixus yet. Then, during the final battle, after being [[spoiler: stabbed by Caesar]], she holds her stomach and seems to look down at it with a sad expression [[spoiler: even though this wasn't where she was stabbed]]: possibly thinking of her unborn child?child?

[[WMG: Sura's prediction about the "red serpent" has a third meaning]]
Sura's vision about Spartacus "kneeling before a red serpent" is generally thought to refer to his first battle in the arena, and to the events of the series finale. But, what if it also refers to Spartacus's enslavement to the House of the Batiatus and, in particular, the threat Lucretia poses due to her hatred of him? Who does Spartacus get enslaved by? Batiatus and his wife Lucretia. What colour does Lucretia frequently wear? Red (be it dresses or wigs). What animal is Lucretia associated with? The snake (her father-in-law outright calls her a serpent, she has be known to use poison on her enemies, she 'drips poison' into the ears of those she manipulates and she also occasionally wears a bracelet with a snake on it).

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** Kore ultimately kills him, but Caesar helped by delivering him to the rebels in the first place.




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* Apparently, the creators were going to make this explicit, but thought it would be a tad unbelievable or contrived. However, there are pictures floating about of Sibyl and Laeta standing together in one of the show's final scenes, and Sibyl, at least, seems to have her hands on her abdomen, perhaps hinting at pregnancy. It's also not impossible, seeing as both of them were having sexual relationships with Spartacus and Gannicus, respectively, before the final battle (Gannicus and Sibyl slept together the night before, no less). If either of them were pregnant, they most likely wouldn't be showing yet and may not even be aware of it, so it could be considered 'partially-canon'.



It doesn't really matter seeing as [[spoiler: she is killed in the final battle]], but her repeatedly looking at babies in the Rebel camp and her conversation about starting a family with Crixus [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation could be interpreted]] as her already knowing she's pregnant and simply having not told Crixus yet. Then, during the final battle, after being [[spoiler: stabbed by Caesar]], she seems to look down at her stomach with a sad expression [[spoiler: even though this wasn't where she was stabbed]]: possibly thinking of her unborn child?

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It doesn't really matter seeing as [[spoiler: she is killed in the final battle]], but her repeatedly looking at babies in the Rebel camp and her conversation about starting a family with Crixus [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation could be interpreted]] as her already knowing she's pregnant and simply having not told Crixus yet. Then, during the final battle, after being [[spoiler: stabbed by Caesar]], she holds her stomach and seems to look down at her stomach it with a sad expression [[spoiler: even though this wasn't where she was stabbed]]: possibly thinking of her unborn child?
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[[WMG: Naevia was pregnant with Crixus's child]]
It doesn't really matter seeing as [[spoiler: she is killed in the final battle]], but her repeatedly looking at babies in the Rebel camp and her conversation about starting a family with Crixus [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation could be interpreted]] as her already knowing she's pregnant and simply having not told Crixus yet. Then, during the final battle, after being [[spoiler: stabbed by Caesar]], she seems to look down at her stomach with a sad expression [[spoiler: even though this wasn't where she was stabbed]]: possibly thinking of her unborn child?
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* The whole TrojanWar thing just turned into too much of a debacle, and Hephaestus decided that for their next entertainment they would aim a little lower (and pick a historical event that did not have so much active involvement from the gods themselves). So this time they setup the Third Servile War. As an added bonus, the war was less thoroughly documented and there was more room to play with the characters and their individual lives, rather than trying to keep the whole thing consistent with a piece of literature like ''Literature/TheIliad''. They might have even used Mars as the location again, which would account for why Italy looks so uncharacteristically bleak.

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* The whole TrojanWar UsefulNotes/TrojanWar thing just turned into too much of a debacle, and Hephaestus decided that for their next entertainment they would aim a little lower (and pick a historical event that did not have so much active involvement from the gods themselves). So this time they setup the Third Servile War. As an added bonus, the war was less thoroughly documented and there was more room to play with the characters and their individual lives, rather than trying to keep the whole thing consistent with a piece of literature like ''Literature/TheIliad''. They might have even used Mars as the location again, which would account for why Italy looks so uncharacteristically bleak.
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With Spartacus' and Gannicus' children, respectively.

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With Spartacus' and Gannicus' children, respectively.respectively.

[[WMG: The whole thing is just another historical recreation by the {{Transhuman}} [[AGodAmI Olympian Gods]] from ''Literature/{{Illium}}'']]
* The whole TrojanWar thing just turned into too much of a debacle, and Hephaestus decided that for their next entertainment they would aim a little lower (and pick a historical event that did not have so much active involvement from the gods themselves). So this time they setup the Third Servile War. As an added bonus, the war was less thoroughly documented and there was more room to play with the characters and their individual lives, rather than trying to keep the whole thing consistent with a piece of literature like ''Literature/TheIliad''. They might have even used Mars as the location again, which would account for why Italy looks so uncharacteristically bleak.

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** Entirely possible he would not have cared, any more than Batiatus would have about Lucretia's child really being Crixus'. By the late Republic era, the Roman upper class was suffering from a serious (and mysterious) fertility problem. For example, Julius Caesar had only one legitimate child, his daughter Julia, and several supposed illegitimate ones he never confirmed one way or the other. Polite pretense was the order of the day for many who wanted heirs but were having trouble producing them. That and adoption.



*** Whether she was really insane in the beginning, by the end of ''Vengeance'' she is for real.

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*** Whether she was really insane in the beginning, beginning or not, by the end of ''Vengeance'' she is for real. real - and it is horrific!
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*** Whether she was really insane in the beginning, by the end of ''Vengeance'' she is for real.
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* Nasir. But don't count the rookie out just yet.

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* Nasir. But don't count the rookie out just yet.yet.

[[WMG: Laeta and Sybil are pregnant]]
With Spartacus' and Gannicus' children, respectively.

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*** Implied but not fully confirmed with Crassus crushing Tiberius' death mask.




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* [[spoiler: Confirmed for Agron and Nasir. Naevia is killed by Caesar and Gannicus is crucified.]]




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* Jossed. The Romans win, though the rebellion gives its DyingMomentOfAwesome.
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* That would be awesome
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** Confirmed.
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* Theokoles is a Franchise/{{Highlander}}.

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* Theokoles is a Franchise/{{Highlander}}.[[Franchise/{{Highlander}} Highlander-style Immortal]].
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* Jossed.

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* Jossed.Jossed.

[[WMG: So...who gets to kill Tiberius?]]
The guy has apparently made it his mission in life to get on as many shit lists as possible. Let us count the possibilities, shall we?
* Kore. This one should be obvious.
* Marcus. If he finds out the truth about the above.
* Ceasar. Because...damn.
* Spartacus. The man has a very good track record when it comes to vengeance.
* Nasir. But don't count the rookie out just yet.
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The preview for episode eight has the two kissing, only for Spartacus to rebuff her saying that he could "never hold [her] to heart" because shes Roman. She replies that "Its not [his] heart I'm after tonight". Now, the obvious meaning for this is that she's after, ahem, another one of his organs. But the double meaning is that she's after his ''life'', and will try to kill him in revenge for what his war has put her through, subverting the whole season's setting up her as his new love interest.

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The preview for episode eight has the two kissing, only for Spartacus to rebuff her saying that he could "never hold [her] to heart" because shes Roman. She replies that "Its not [his] heart I'm after tonight". Now, the obvious meaning for this is that she's after, ahem, another one of his organs. But the double meaning is that she's after his ''life'', and will try to kill him in revenge for what his war has put her through, subverting the whole season's setting up her as his new love interest.interest.
*Jossed.
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In a shocking swerve ending, it will turn out that the series takes place in an alternate universe- accounting for the various faults in historical accuracy.

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In a shocking swerve ending, it will turn out that the series takes place in an alternate universe- accounting for the various faults in historical accuracy.accuracy.

[[WMG: Laeta is going to try and kill Spartacus in episode 8]]
The preview for episode eight has the two kissing, only for Spartacus to rebuff her saying that he could "never hold [her] to heart" because shes Roman. She replies that "Its not [his] heart I'm after tonight". Now, the obvious meaning for this is that she's after, ahem, another one of his organs. But the double meaning is that she's after his ''life'', and will try to kill him in revenge for what his war has put her through, subverting the whole season's setting up her as his new love interest.
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History and honour both demand that the story end with Spartacus's death, in battle or on the cross (they'll probably go with battle), but they'll probably want to avoid a complete downer ending. Somebody has to get away, somehow. I'm guessing Crixus and Naevia will die within minutes of one another, but Gannicus may yet survive -- not least because Sibyl seems to have been introduced to give him the option of a peaceful ending. Which is a pity, because Saxa is awesome. Agron and Nasir may also make it out, assuming they can get over the pretty-boy pirate.

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History and honour both demand that the story end with Spartacus's death, in battle or on the cross (they'll probably go with battle), but they'll probably want to avoid a complete downer ending. Somebody has to get away, somehow. I'm guessing Crixus and Naevia will die within minutes of one another, but Gannicus may yet survive -- not least because Sibyl seems to have been introduced to give him the option of a peaceful ending. Which is a pity, because Saxa is awesome. Agron and Nasir may also make it out, assuming they can get over the pretty-boy pirate.pirate.

[[WMG: The Rebels are going to win.]]
In a shocking swerve ending, it will turn out that the series takes place in an alternate universe- accounting for the various faults in historical accuracy.
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** And when Tiberius corners her in the villa, her first words to him are [[spoiler: ''All the years I cared for you...did they mean nothing??'']]

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** And when Tiberius corners her in the villa, her first words to him are [[spoiler: ''All the years I cared for you...did they mean nothing??'']]nothing??'']]

[[WMG: So, who will survive?]]
History and honour both demand that the story end with Spartacus's death, in battle or on the cross (they'll probably go with battle), but they'll probably want to avoid a complete downer ending. Somebody has to get away, somehow. I'm guessing Crixus and Naevia will die within minutes of one another, but Gannicus may yet survive -- not least because Sibyl seems to have been introduced to give him the option of a peaceful ending. Which is a pity, because Saxa is awesome. Agron and Nasir may also make it out, assuming they can get over the pretty-boy pirate.
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** Going off that, Crassus' fury over what Tiberius did will result in Tiberius being condemned "damnatio memoriae," which is why we have never heard of him.

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** Going off that, Crassus' fury over what Tiberius did will result in Tiberius being condemned "damnatio memoriae," which is why we have never heard of him.him.
** And when Tiberius corners her in the villa, her first words to him are [[spoiler: ''All the years I cared for you...did they mean nothing??'']]

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