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Control, but he already got what he wanted a long time ago. After the cult got shut down Andrew thought he could just live a normal life like he never did anything wrong, unfortunately(for him that is) he was wrong again. Which is why he is so called mysteriously zapped to the prison in which he tortured children in and brought to his untimely demise. Andrew already got what he wanted from Walter and thought he could just get away with it, but Walter showed him. Another one of his victims is Richard Braintree: a mentally unstable violent sociopath, that also happens to carry a deadly brain splattering revolver. What he wanted is madness or as the filthy cult's manual would have it chaos. Richard loved to intimidate physically hurt people and yell at kids. When he met the kid Walter he verbally tortured the youth by threatening him, insulting him and waving that big ass gun of his that was fully loaded and cocked in young Walter's face. He was practically Richard's verbal punching bag. To be continued.

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Control, but he already got what he wanted a long time ago. After the cult got shut down Andrew thought he could just live a normal life like he never did anything wrong, unfortunately(for him that is) he was wrong again. Which is why he is so called mysteriously zapped to the prison in which he tortured children in and brought to his untimely demise. Andrew already got what he wanted from Walter and thought he could just get away with it, but Walter showed him. Another one of his victims is Richard Braintree: a mentally unstable violent sociopath, that also happens to carry a deadly brain splattering revolver. What he wanted is madness or as the filthy cult's manual would have it chaos. Richard loved to intimidate physically hurt people and yell at kids. When he met the kid Walter he verbally tortured the youth by threatening him, insulting him and waving that big ass gun of his that was fully loaded and cocked in young Walter's face. He was practically Richard's verbal punching bag. To When he meets young Walter again as the player sees through Henry's eyes, Richard get's lost in a beserk euphoric state again and indulges in his destructive pleasures again while he chases the young Walter. With the evil Walter finally having enough of Richard's nonsense he finally decides to end the sadistic Richard's life. Almost last but certainly still not least is Eileen. In the game the player finds out that Eileen felt very sorry for Walter when she first met him as a little girl, with that being stated she would do or even sacrifice a lot to help the pathetic Walter if she could, well very late in the future when she became an adult she got what she wanted, making her situation a very good example of [[JackassGenie be continued.careful what you wish for]] as the player themselves should well know. Finally we have Henry. Now what in the universe could he want? Well the answer to that question is purpose, pretty much a reason to even exist. When the game first starts and even in the game pamphlet the player finds out that Henry has been living his life day by day not significantly impacting anything except for his wallet with his good career. It's like he doesn't exist even worst than when he was locked up in his apartment. The Walter Sullivan scenario however changed all that, by putting the fate of the world on his shoulders while at the same time giving Henry a chance to meet some pretty colorful characters. Even after he got his first chance to leave his apartment into subway world he didn't really seem like he was trying to escape from an ominous danger, he seemed like he was just looking for something(and it wasn't an escape either). Henry was pretty much a gloom trying to fill a void, rather than trying escape from a nightmare.
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Control, but he already got what he wanted a long time ago. After the cult got shut down Andrew thought he could just live a normal life like he never did anything wrong, unfortunately(for him that is) he was wrong again. Which is why he is so called mysteriously zapped to the prison in which he tortured children in and brought to his untimely demise. Andrew already got what he wanted from Walter and thought he could just get away with it, but Walter showed him. Another one of his victims is Richard Braintree: a mentally unstable violent sociopath, that also happens to carry a deadly brain splattering revolver. What he wanted is madness or as the filthy cult's manual would have it chaos. Richard loved to intimidate physically hurt people and yell at kids. When he met the kid Walter he verbally tortured the youth by threatening him, insulting him and waving that big ass gun of his that was fully loaded and cocked in young Walter's face. He was practically Richard's verbal punching bag. To be continued.
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Depending on the type of abuse and the extent of it, it would explain why Henry is very lackluster in his reactions to things. Severe abuse makes it difficult for people to relate to one another and express emotions. It could also explain why he keeps to himself so much that no one thought it was weird that he hadn't come out of his apartment for several days.

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Depending on the type of abuse and the extent of it, it would explain why Henry is very lackluster in his reactions to things. Severe abuse makes it difficult for people to relate to one another and express emotions. It could also explain why he keeps to himself so much that no one thought it was weird that he hadn't come out of his apartment for several days.days.

[[WMG: Walter Sullivan is "that special something" that his victims subconsiously desired.]]
He was really that important thing missing in one's life that someone can't put their finger on that they wanted but they still do crave it, for example Cynthia for starters. She is a no good trashy woman that despite all that lives a pretty descent life, but that's besides the point, It's clear that she wants to live in a fantasy world and that she is also real flirty and likes to play around with men rather it be physically or mentally, then here comes poor innocent sweet Walter. She thinks of him like a boy toy and the fact that she was doing better than him(only at the time that they first met) made her love her life even more. To see people doing worst than her(well only for that time of course). After her encounter with Walter Sullivan she felt like she was complete and that there were no more voids in her life and she felt like she got everything she could ever want, hence her think she's in a dream 24/7; even to the point where she's so deep in a euphoric like state that she can't even distinguish reality any more. Which is when Walter decides to sacrifice her because she obtained what she always wanted. Now for Gein. Jasper Gein in your average nerdy cult obsessed mentally challenged freak(there's nothing average about that) and was obsessed with the same cult that Walter was and was trying to learn everything about it and it's wretched false god. He eventually accomplished this twisted goal(after he says he met the devil) then he too is sacrificed. Next we have Andrew Desalvo. At first he appears harmless and friendly but when one learns about him they find out he is a [[CompleteMonster monster]]. What did he hunger for?

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** You have no idea how that made me screech. Though that begs the question: does that make the orphanage Walter was in 511 Kinderheim?



That explains why it's the first game in the Silent hill franchise to usher in a whole bunch of new stuff. With the previous three games apparently suffering from ''{{SeasonalRot}}'' Team Silent subconsiously felt they should surprise everyone with something unexpected, instead of what everyone would expect from Silent Hill. However the creator's couldn't make it seem like a gaiden game and just make it nothing like the other Silent Hill games and just only give it the name, and that's why Silent Hill 4 makes numerous references to its previous three predessors, to show the player that there is a connection if not in gameplay similarites like the player would be expecting since the last two games, but in ''{{Canon}}''.

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That explains why it's the first game in the Silent hill franchise to usher in a whole bunch of new stuff. With the previous three games apparently suffering from ''{{SeasonalRot}}'' Team Silent subconsiously felt they should surprise everyone with something unexpected, instead of what everyone would expect from Silent Hill. However the creator's couldn't make it seem like a gaiden game and just make it nothing like the other Silent Hill games and just only give it the name, and that's why Silent Hill 4 makes numerous references to its previous three predessors, to show the player that there is a connection if not in gameplay similarites like the player would be expecting since the last two games, but in ''{{Canon}}''.''{{Canon}}''.

[[WMG: Henry was horribly abused by his parents.]]
Depending on the type of abuse and the extent of it, it would explain why Henry is very lackluster in his reactions to things. Severe abuse makes it difficult for people to relate to one another and express emotions. It could also explain why he keeps to himself so much that no one thought it was weird that he hadn't come out of his apartment for several days.
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That explains why it's the first game in the Silent hill franchise to usher in a whole bunch of new stuff. With the previous three games apparently suffering from ''{{SeasonalRot}}'' Team Silent subconsiously felt they should surprise everyone with something unexpected, instead of what everyone [[Cliché would expect from Silent Hill]]. However the creator's couldn't make it seem like a gaiden game and just make it nothing like the other Silent Hill games and just only give it the name, and that's why Silent Hill 4 makes numerous references to its previous three predessors, to show the player that there is a connection if not in gameplay similarites like the player would be expecting since the last two games, but in ''{{Canon}}''.

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That explains why it's the first game in the Silent hill franchise to usher in a whole bunch of new stuff. With the previous three games apparently suffering from ''{{SeasonalRot}}'' Team Silent subconsiously felt they should surprise everyone with something unexpected, instead of what everyone [[Cliché everyone would expect from Silent Hill]].Hill. However the creator's couldn't make it seem like a gaiden game and just make it nothing like the other Silent Hill games and just only give it the name, and that's why Silent Hill 4 makes numerous references to its previous three predessors, to show the player that there is a connection if not in gameplay similarites like the player would be expecting since the last two games, but in ''{{Canon}}''.
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That explains why it's the first game in the Silent hill franchise to usher in a whole bunch of new stuff. With the previous three games apparently suffering from ''{{SeasonalRot}}'' Team Silent subconsiously felt they should surprise everyone with something unexpected, instead of what everyone [[Cliche's would expect from Silent Hill]]. However the creator's couldn't make it seem like a gaiden game and just make it nothing like the other Silent Hill games and just only give it the name, and that's why Silent Hill 4 makes numerous references to its previous three predessors, to show the player that there is a connection if not in gameplay similarites like the player would be expecting since the last two games, but in ''{{Canon}}''.

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That explains why it's the first game in the Silent hill franchise to usher in a whole bunch of new stuff. With the previous three games apparently suffering from ''{{SeasonalRot}}'' Team Silent subconsiously felt they should surprise everyone with something unexpected, instead of what everyone [[Cliche's [[Cliché would expect from Silent Hill]]. However the creator's couldn't make it seem like a gaiden game and just make it nothing like the other Silent Hill games and just only give it the name, and that's why Silent Hill 4 makes numerous references to its previous three predessors, to show the player that there is a connection if not in gameplay similarites like the player would be expecting since the last two games, but in ''{{Canon}}''.
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That's the reason why suddenly "dissappeared" from their apartment and forsaked their son. Being how The Mother Sect recieves financial rewards for it's "raising" orphan children,the Silent Hill Smile Support Society the cult could of been well off.When the player hear what Walter audibly remembers about his parents, they sound like there trying to elude something more than responsibility, or better yet said someone. It's stated in the game that Walter's parents most likely had financial problems, meaning Walter's parents [[DealWithTheDevil actually made a bargain with the sinister devil worshipping religous group]]. Walter's parents would "conviently" abandon their son(Walter), Walter would be eventually discovered by someone most likely the apartment tenants/employees then after all the paperwork and other nonsense was done for the baby, he would be conviently assimilated into the Silent Hill "Smile" Support Society, but not without Walter's good for nothing parents receiving financial compensation as well as immunity from future harassment and very possibly murder from the insane cult. Just like there was a logical explanation for what was happening to Henry and he didn't just coincidentally go insane, Walter being abandon and just suddenly adopted by a orphange like that seems a little to much to be a minor coincential catalyst that just so happened to spark up all of these catastrophic events. Walter being abandoned then getting adopted by the cult was really planned.

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That's the reason why suddenly "dissappeared" from their apartment and forsaked their son. Being how The Mother Sect recieves financial rewards for it's "raising" orphan children,the Silent Hill Smile Support Society the cult could of been well off.When the player hear what Walter audibly remembers about his parents, they sound like there trying to elude something more than responsibility, or better yet said someone. It's stated in the game that Walter's parents most likely had financial problems, meaning Walter's parents [[DealWithTheDevil actually made a bargain with the sinister devil worshipping religous group]]. Walter's parents would "conviently" abandon their son(Walter), Walter would be eventually discovered by someone most likely the apartment tenants/employees then after all the paperwork and other nonsense was done for the baby, he would be conviently assimilated into the Silent Hill "Smile" Support Society, but not without Walter's good for nothing parents receiving financial compensation as well as immunity from future harassment and very possibly murder from the insane cult. Just like there was a logical explanation for what was happening to Henry and he didn't just coincidentally go insane, Walter being abandon and just suddenly adopted by a orphange like that seems a little to much to be a minor coincential catalyst that just so happened to spark up all of these catastrophic events. Walter being abandoned then getting adopted by the cult was really planned.planned.

[[WMG: Silent hill 4 is a reboot.]]
That explains why it's the first game in the Silent hill franchise to usher in a whole bunch of new stuff. With the previous three games apparently suffering from ''{{SeasonalRot}}'' Team Silent subconsiously felt they should surprise everyone with something unexpected, instead of what everyone [[Cliche's would expect from Silent Hill]]. However the creator's couldn't make it seem like a gaiden game and just make it nothing like the other Silent Hill games and just only give it the name, and that's why Silent Hill 4 makes numerous references to its previous three predessors, to show the player that there is a connection if not in gameplay similarites like the player would be expecting since the last two games, but in ''{{Canon}}''.
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That's the reason why suddenly "dissappeared" from their apartment and forsaked their son. Being how The Mother Sect recieves financial rewards for it's "raising" orphan children,the Silent Hill Smile Support Society the cult could of been well off.When the player hear what Walter audibly remembers about his parents, they sound like there trying to elude something more than responsibility, or better yet said someone. It's stated in the game that Walter's parents most likely had financial problems, meaning Walter's parents [[DealWithTheDevil actually made a bargain with the sinister devil worshipping religous group]]. Walter's parents would "conviently" abandon their son(Walter), Walter would be eventually discovered by someone most likely the apartment tenants/employees then after all the paperwork and other nonsense was done for the baby, he would be conviently assimilated into the Silent Hill "Smile" Support Society, but not without Walter's good for nothing parents receiving financial compensation as well as immunity from future harassment and very possibly murder from the insane cult.

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That's the reason why suddenly "dissappeared" from their apartment and forsaked their son. Being how The Mother Sect recieves financial rewards for it's "raising" orphan children,the Silent Hill Smile Support Society the cult could of been well off.When the player hear what Walter audibly remembers about his parents, they sound like there trying to elude something more than responsibility, or better yet said someone. It's stated in the game that Walter's parents most likely had financial problems, meaning Walter's parents [[DealWithTheDevil actually made a bargain with the sinister devil worshipping religous group]]. Walter's parents would "conviently" abandon their son(Walter), Walter would be eventually discovered by someone most likely the apartment tenants/employees then after all the paperwork and other nonsense was done for the baby, he would be conviently assimilated into the Silent Hill "Smile" Support Society, but not without Walter's good for nothing parents receiving financial compensation as well as immunity from future harassment and very possibly murder from the insane cult. Just like there was a logical explanation for what was happening to Henry and he didn't just coincidentally go insane, Walter being abandon and just suddenly adopted by a orphange like that seems a little to much to be a minor coincential catalyst that just so happened to spark up all of these catastrophic events. Walter being abandoned then getting adopted by the cult was really planned.
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That's the reason why suddenly "dissappeared" from their apartment and forsaked their son. Being how The Mother Sect recieves financial rewards for it's "raising" orphan children,the Silent Hill Smile Support Society the cult could of been well off. It's stated in the game that Walter's parents most likely had financial problems, meaning Walter's parents [[DealWithTheDevil actually made a bargain with the sinister devil worshipping religous group]]. Walter's parents would "conviently" abandon their son(Walter), Walter would be eventually discovered by someone most likely the apartment tenants/employees then after all the paperwork and other nonsense was done for the baby, he would be conviently assimilated into the Silent Hill "Smile" Support Society, but not without Walter's good for nothing parents receiving financial compensation as well as immunity from future harassment and very possibly murder from the insane cult.

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That's the reason why suddenly "dissappeared" from their apartment and forsaked their son. Being how The Mother Sect recieves financial rewards for it's "raising" orphan children,the Silent Hill Smile Support Society the cult could of been well off.When the player hear what Walter audibly remembers about his parents, they sound like there trying to elude something more than responsibility, or better yet said someone. It's stated in the game that Walter's parents most likely had financial problems, meaning Walter's parents [[DealWithTheDevil actually made a bargain with the sinister devil worshipping religous group]]. Walter's parents would "conviently" abandon their son(Walter), Walter would be eventually discovered by someone most likely the apartment tenants/employees then after all the paperwork and other nonsense was done for the baby, he would be conviently assimilated into the Silent Hill "Smile" Support Society, but not without Walter's good for nothing parents receiving financial compensation as well as immunity from future harassment and very possibly murder from the insane cult.
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[[WMG: Walter Sullivan's unnamed biological parents were targeted by the Cult just like Sharon Blake's family.]]
That's the reason why suddenly "dissappeared" from their apartment and forsaked their son. Being how The Mother Sect recieves financial rewards for it's "raising" orphan children,the Silent Hill Smile Support Society the cult could of been well off. It's stated in the game that Walter's parents most likely had financial problems, meaning Walter's parents [[DealWithTheDevil actually made a bargain with the sinister devil worshipping religous group]]. Walter's parents would "conviently" abandon their son(Walter), Walter would be eventually discovered by someone most likely the apartment tenants/employees then after all the paperwork and other nonsense was done for the baby, he would be conviently assimilated into the Silent Hill "Smile" Support Society, but not without Walter's good for nothing parents receiving financial compensation as well as immunity from future harassment and very possibly murder from the insane cult.
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Practically Self explanotory. Despite their settings and the enviorments they were born in(Walter was abandoned and raised by an orphange whence Damien was raised by two loving caring parents) They are alike in many ways atleast when it comes in mental and auguably spiritual characteristics. Both of them confirmed religous prophecies Walter appeasing a blasphemous cult's prophecies while Damien acting out the prophecies in what's described in the holy righteous Christian bible as the antichrist. Both of them specialize in some worldly art, Walter specializes in unsacred blood rituals while Damien appears to specialize in politics. Both of them apparently despise the humans that gave birth to them.Both of them are the perfect examples of evil child tropes Walter Sullivan being a ''{{Psychopathic Manchild}}'' and Damien being a ''{{Creepy Child}}''. Both of them have a malevolent supernatural like parental/guardian figure Walter's being Room 302 and Damiens being Lucifer. Their hair is similar of course, and finally both of them intend to literally bring hell to earth.

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Practically Self explanotory. Despite their settings and the enviorments they were born in(Walter was abandoned and raised by an orphange whence Damien was raised by two loving caring parents) They are alike in many ways atleast when it comes in mental and auguably spiritual characteristics. Both of them confirmed religous prophecies Walter appeasing a blasphemous cult's prophecies while Damien acting out the prophecies in what's described in the holy righteous Christian bible as the antichrist. Both of them specialize in some worldly art, Walter specializes in unsacred blood rituals while Damien appears to specialize in politics. Both of them apparently despise the humans that gave birth to them.Both of them are the perfect examples of evil child tropes Walter Sullivan being a ''{{Psychopathic Manchild}}'' and Damien being a ''{{Creepy Child}}''. Both of them have a malevolent supernatural like parental/guardian figure Walter's being Room 302 and Damiens being Lucifer. Their hair is similar of course, and finally both of them intend to literally bring hell to earth.earth.
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Practically Self explanotory. Despite their settings and the enviorments they were born in(Walter was abandoned and raised by an orphange whence Damien was raised by two loving caring parents) They are alike in many ways atleast when it comes in mental and auguably spiritual characteristics. Both of them confirmed religous prophecies Walter appeasing a blasphemous cult's prophecies while Damien acting out the prophecies in what's described in the holy righteous Christian bible as the antichrist. Both of them specialize in some worldly art, Walter specializes in unsacred blood rituals while Damien appears to specialize in politics. Both of them apparently despise the humans that gave birth to them. Both of them have a malevolent supernatural like parental/guardian figure Walter's being Room 302 and Damiens being Lucifer. Their hair is similar of course, and finally both of them intend to literally bring hell to earth.

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Practically Self explanotory. Despite their settings and the enviorments they were born in(Walter was abandoned and raised by an orphange whence Damien was raised by two loving caring parents) They are alike in many ways atleast when it comes in mental and auguably spiritual characteristics. Both of them confirmed religous prophecies Walter appeasing a blasphemous cult's prophecies while Damien acting out the prophecies in what's described in the holy righteous Christian bible as the antichrist. Both of them specialize in some worldly art, Walter specializes in unsacred blood rituals while Damien appears to specialize in politics. Both of them apparently despise the humans that gave birth to them.Both of them are the perfect examples of evil child tropes Walter Sullivan being a ''{{Psychopathic Manchild}}'' and Damien being a ''{{Creepy Child}}''. Both of them have a malevolent supernatural like parental/guardian figure Walter's being Room 302 and Damiens being Lucifer. Their hair is similar of course, and finally both of them intend to literally bring hell to earth.
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Practically Self explanotory. Despite their settings and the enviorments they were born in(Walter was abandoned and raised by an orphange whence Damien was raised by two loving caring parents) They are alike in many ways atleast when it comes in mental and auguably spiritual characteristics. Both of them confirmed religous prophecies Walter appeasing a blasphemous cult's prophecies while Damien acting out the prophecies in what's described in the holy righteous Christian bible as the antichrist. Both of them specialize in some worldly art, Walter specializes in unsacred blood rituals while Damien appears to specialize in politics. Both of them apparently despise the humans that gave birth to them. Both of them have a malevolent supernatural like parental/guardian figure Walter's being Room 302 and Damiens being Lucifer. Both of them despise our Holy Savior Jesus Christ. Their hair is similar of course, and finally both of them intend to literally bring hell to earth.

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Practically Self explanotory. Despite their settings and the enviorments they were born in(Walter was abandoned and raised by an orphange whence Damien was raised by two loving caring parents) They are alike in many ways atleast when it comes in mental and auguably spiritual characteristics. Both of them confirmed religous prophecies Walter appeasing a blasphemous cult's prophecies while Damien acting out the prophecies in what's described in the holy righteous Christian bible as the antichrist. Both of them specialize in some worldly art, Walter specializes in unsacred blood rituals while Damien appears to specialize in politics. Both of them apparently despise the humans that gave birth to them. Both of them have a malevolent supernatural like parental/guardian figure Walter's being Room 302 and Damiens being Lucifer. Both of them despise our Holy Savior Jesus Christ. Their hair is similar of course, and finally both of them intend to literally bring hell to earth.
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Practically Self explanotory. Despite their settings and the enviorments they were born in(Walter was abandoned and raised by an orphange whence Damien was raised by two loving caring parents) They are alike in many ways atleast when it comes in mental and auguably spiritual characteristics. Both of them confirmed religous prophecies Walter appeasing a blasphemous cult's prophecies while Damien acting out the prophecies in what's described in the holy righteous Christian bible as the antichrist. Both of them specialize in some worldly art, Walter specializes in unsacred blood rituals while Damien appears to specialize in politics. Both of them apparently despise the humans that gave birth to them. Both of them have a malevolent supernatural like parental/guardian figure Walter's being Room 302 and Damiens being Lucifer. Their hair is similar of course, and finally both of them intend to literally bring hell to earth.

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Practically Self explanotory. Despite their settings and the enviorments they were born in(Walter was abandoned and raised by an orphange whence Damien was raised by two loving caring parents) They are alike in many ways atleast when it comes in mental and auguably spiritual characteristics. Both of them confirmed religous prophecies Walter appeasing a blasphemous cult's prophecies while Damien acting out the prophecies in what's described in the holy righteous Christian bible as the antichrist. Both of them specialize in some worldly art, Walter specializes in unsacred blood rituals while Damien appears to specialize in politics. Both of them apparently despise the humans that gave birth to them. Both of them have a malevolent supernatural like parental/guardian figure Walter's being Room 302 and Damiens being Lucifer. Both of them despise our Holy Savior Jesus Christ. Their hair is similar of course, and finally both of them intend to literally bring hell to earth.
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Being that Henry is an important facet to the 21 sacraments and more importantly that each suitalble sacrifice has to be killed in the correct order, Walter wouldn't just let Henry die until the time was right for the sake of his mother. The diary in Henry's apartment is in fact enchanted whether the player knows it or not and everytime he uses it, it stores his life force in it along with his thoughts. That is why when the player chooses to hit the continue option instead of the load option they will be in a sense respawned(brought back to life) with everything like it was before Henry's supposed death. That's because Henry actually was revived, by dark evil malicous powers that want him dead ironically. When Henry dies it's the exact same thing as when he uses the holes to get back in the apartment, he thinks he simply just dazed out and it is his so called wild imagination at work but all of this is actually happening. When we see Walter for the first time in game in subway world he tries to kill Henry, but even if his does why doesn't he die for good being that it will supposedly be the 21st and last sacrifice? Walter is the main source of Henry's diary protective power so he should be way more stronger than it. It's because Walter doesn't want Henry to die yet unbeilievably because he's not the Reciever of Wisdom yet. Walter or better yet Evil Walter is just having some fun tormenting Henry and brutally assaulting him while Walter is invunerable(pure satanism) having a little fun time until Henry truly becomes the Reciever of Wisdom(Which is Henry learning the truth) which happens after Henry get's baby Walter's umbillical cord and his head starts hurting right after seing a brief glimpse of Walter's real parents. You'll notice that after this happens Walter Sullivan isn't seen anymore until the final battle, that's because when Walter finally ready to kill Henry because he's officially the Reciever of Wisdom. That's why after you engage in that last battle you can't save or at least even access your save point(diary), because if Walter kills Henry by his hand now he won't let the diary bring Henry back to life because the sacrafices would be complete and he doesn't need Henry alive anymore. One last thing, the reason why the 21 sacraments ending doesn't play if Henry is killed by Walter(Gameplay) is only for the sake of the gameplay, because the creators wanted each individual ending no matter how good or how bad to be played after Henry killed Walter; they wanted the 21 sacraments ending to be achieved depending on how much Henry exorcised his apartment and whether or not Eileen lived.

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Being that Henry is an important facet to the 21 sacraments and more importantly that each suitalble sacrifice has to be killed in the correct order, Walter wouldn't just let Henry die until the time was right for the sake of his mother. The diary in Henry's apartment is in fact enchanted whether the player knows it or not and everytime he uses it, it stores his life force in it along with his thoughts. That is why when the player chooses to hit the continue option instead of the load option they will be in a sense respawned(brought back to life) with everything like it was before Henry's supposed death. That's because Henry actually was revived, by dark evil malicous powers that want him dead ironically. When Henry dies it's the exact same thing as when he uses the holes to get back in the apartment, he thinks he simply just dazed out and it is his so called wild imagination at work but all of this is actually happening. When we see Walter for the first time in game in subway world he tries to kill Henry, but even if his does why doesn't he die for good being that it will supposedly be the 21st and last sacrifice? Walter is the main source of Henry's diary protective power so he should be way more stronger than it. It's because Walter doesn't want Henry to die yet unbeilievably because he's not the Reciever of Wisdom yet. Walter or better yet Evil Walter is just having some fun tormenting Henry and brutally assaulting him while Walter is invunerable(pure satanism) having a little fun time until Henry truly becomes the Reciever of Wisdom(Which is Henry learning the truth) which happens after Henry get's baby Walter's umbillical cord and his head starts hurting right after seing a brief glimpse of Walter's real parents. You'll notice that after this happens Walter Sullivan isn't seen anymore until the final battle, that's because when Walter finally ready to kill Henry because he's officially the Reciever of Wisdom. That's why after you engage in that last battle you can't save or at least even access your save point(diary), because if Walter kills Henry by his hand now he won't let the diary bring Henry back to life because the sacrafices would be complete and he doesn't need Henry alive anymore. One last thing, the reason why the 21 sacraments ending doesn't play if Henry is killed by Walter(Gameplay) is only for the sake of the gameplay, because the creators wanted each individual ending no matter how good or how bad to be played after Henry killed Walter; they wanted the 21 sacraments ending to be achieved depending on how much Henry exorcised his apartment and whether or not Eileen lived.lived.

[[WMG: Walter Sullivan is the Silent hill version of [[TheOmen Damien]].]]
Practically Self explanotory. Despite their settings and the enviorments they were born in(Walter was abandoned and raised by an orphange whence Damien was raised by two loving caring parents) They are alike in many ways atleast when it comes in mental and auguably spiritual characteristics. Both of them confirmed religous prophecies Walter appeasing a blasphemous cult's prophecies while Damien acting out the prophecies in what's described in the holy righteous Christian bible as the antichrist. Both of them specialize in some worldly art, Walter specializes in unsacred blood rituals while Damien appears to specialize in politics. Both of them apparently despise the humans that gave birth to them. Both of them have a malevolent supernatural like parental/guardian figure Walter's being Room 302 and Damiens being Lucifer. Their hair is similar of course, and finally both of them intend to literally bring hell to earth.
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[[WMG: Walter's ''{{Psychopathic Man Child}}'' status stems from his inability to accept the truth rather than the cult's teachings]]

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[[WMG: Walter's ''{{Psychopathic Man Child}}'' [[PsychopathicManChild Homicidal Peter Pan]] status stems from his inability to accept the truth rather than the cult's teachings]]
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Being that Henry is an important facet to the 21 sacraments and more importantly that each suitalble sacrifice has to be killed in the correct order, Walter wouldn't just let Henry die until the time was right for the sake of his mother. The diary in Henry's apartment is in fact enchanted whether the player knows it or not and everytime he uses it, it stores his life force in it along with his thoughts. That is why when the player chooses to hit the continue option instead of the load option they will be in a sense respawned(brought back to life) with everything like it was before Henry's supposed death. That's because Henry actually was revived, by dark evil malicous powers that want him dead ironically. When Henry dies it's the exact same thing as when he uses the holes to get back in the apartment, he thinks he simply just dazed out and it is his so called wild imagination at work but all of this is actually happening. When we see Walter for the first time in game in subway world he tries to kill Henry, but even if his does why doesn't he die for good being that it will supposedly be the 21st and last sacrifice? Walter is the main source of Henry's diary protective power so he should be way more stronger than it. It's because Walter doesn't want Henry to die yet unbeilievably because he's not the Reciever of Wisdom yet. Walter or better yet Evil Walter is just having some fun tormenting Henry and brutally assaulting him while Walter is invunerable(pure satanism) having a little fun time until Henry truly becomes the Reciever of Wisdom(Which is Henry learning the truth) which happens after Henry get's baby Walter's umbillical cord and his head starts hurting right after seing a brief glimpse of Walter's real parents. You'll notice that after this happens Walter Sullivan isn't seen anymore until the final battle, that's because when Walter finally ready to kill Henry because he's officially the Reciever of Wisdom. That's why after you engage in that last battle you can't save or at least even access your save point(diary), because if Walter kills Henry by his hand now he won't let the diary bring Henry back to life because the sacrafices would be complete and he doesn't need Henry alive anymore.

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Being that Henry is an important facet to the 21 sacraments and more importantly that each suitalble sacrifice has to be killed in the correct order, Walter wouldn't just let Henry die until the time was right for the sake of his mother. The diary in Henry's apartment is in fact enchanted whether the player knows it or not and everytime he uses it, it stores his life force in it along with his thoughts. That is why when the player chooses to hit the continue option instead of the load option they will be in a sense respawned(brought back to life) with everything like it was before Henry's supposed death. That's because Henry actually was revived, by dark evil malicous powers that want him dead ironically. When Henry dies it's the exact same thing as when he uses the holes to get back in the apartment, he thinks he simply just dazed out and it is his so called wild imagination at work but all of this is actually happening. When we see Walter for the first time in game in subway world he tries to kill Henry, but even if his does why doesn't he die for good being that it will supposedly be the 21st and last sacrifice? Walter is the main source of Henry's diary protective power so he should be way more stronger than it. It's because Walter doesn't want Henry to die yet unbeilievably because he's not the Reciever of Wisdom yet. Walter or better yet Evil Walter is just having some fun tormenting Henry and brutally assaulting him while Walter is invunerable(pure satanism) having a little fun time until Henry truly becomes the Reciever of Wisdom(Which is Henry learning the truth) which happens after Henry get's baby Walter's umbillical cord and his head starts hurting right after seing a brief glimpse of Walter's real parents. You'll notice that after this happens Walter Sullivan isn't seen anymore until the final battle, that's because when Walter finally ready to kill Henry because he's officially the Reciever of Wisdom. That's why after you engage in that last battle you can't save or at least even access your save point(diary), because if Walter kills Henry by his hand now he won't let the diary bring Henry back to life because the sacrafices would be complete and he doesn't need Henry alive anymore. One last thing, the reason why the 21 sacraments ending doesn't play if Henry is killed by Walter(Gameplay) is only for the sake of the gameplay, because the creators wanted each individual ending no matter how good or how bad to be played after Henry killed Walter; they wanted the 21 sacraments ending to be achieved depending on how much Henry exorcised his apartment and whether or not Eileen lived.
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Being that Henry is an important facet to the 21 sacraments and more importantly that each suitalble sacrifice has to be killed in the correct order, Walter wouldn't just let Henry die until the time was right for the sake of his mother. The diary in Henry's apartment is in fact enchanted whether the player knows it or not and everytime he uses it, it stores his life force in it along with his thoughts. That is why when the player chooses to hit the continue option instead of the load option they will be in a sense respawned(brought back to life) with everything like it was before Henry's supposed death. That's because Henry actually was revived, by dark evil malicous powers that want him dead ironically. When Henry dies it's the exact same thing as when he uses the holes to get back in the apartment, he thinks he simply just dazed out and it is his so called wild imagination at work but all of this is actually happening. When we see Walter for the first time in game in subway world he tries to kill Henry, but even if his does why doesn't he die for good being that it will supposedly be the 21st and last sacrifice? Walter is the main source of Henry's diary protective power so he should be way more stronger than it. It's because Walter doesn't want Henry to die yet unbeilievably because he's not the Reciever of Wisdom yet. Walter or better yet Evil Walter is just having some fun tormenting Henry and brutally assaulting him while Walter is invunerable(pure satanism) having a little fun time until it's really time to be

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Being that Henry is an important facet to the 21 sacraments and more importantly that each suitalble sacrifice has to be killed in the correct order, Walter wouldn't just let Henry die until the time was right for the sake of his mother. The diary in Henry's apartment is in fact enchanted whether the player knows it or not and everytime he uses it, it stores his life force in it along with his thoughts. That is why when the player chooses to hit the continue option instead of the load option they will be in a sense respawned(brought back to life) with everything like it was before Henry's supposed death. That's because Henry actually was revived, by dark evil malicous powers that want him dead ironically. When Henry dies it's the exact same thing as when he uses the holes to get back in the apartment, he thinks he simply just dazed out and it is his so called wild imagination at work but all of this is actually happening. When we see Walter for the first time in game in subway world he tries to kill Henry, but even if his does why doesn't he die for good being that it will supposedly be the 21st and last sacrifice? Walter is the main source of Henry's diary protective power so he should be way more stronger than it. It's because Walter doesn't want Henry to die yet unbeilievably because he's not the Reciever of Wisdom yet. Walter or better yet Evil Walter is just having some fun tormenting Henry and brutally assaulting him while Walter is invunerable(pure satanism) having a little fun time until it's really time Henry truly becomes the Reciever of Wisdom(Which is Henry learning the truth) which happens after Henry get's baby Walter's umbillical cord and his head starts hurting right after seing a brief glimpse of Walter's real parents. You'll notice that after this happens Walter Sullivan isn't seen anymore until the final battle, that's because when Walter finally ready to bekill Henry because he's officially the Reciever of Wisdom. That's why after you engage in that last battle you can't save or at least even access your save point(diary), because if Walter kills Henry by his hand now he won't let the diary bring Henry back to life because the sacrafices would be complete and he doesn't need Henry alive anymore.
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Regarding Joseph Schreiber's intention for the effects of this WMG: Joseph had no choice but to let Henry know about Walter. The information he provides as the Giver of Wisdom serves not the purpose of arming Henry with the necessary knowledge to thwart Walter's plans, but to make him apt for sacrifice. Regardless of the Walter's intentions, Henry's role required him to be present at Walter's killings after Joseph and to know about Walter's past (which Joseph obediently recollected). If Walter wanted to succeed, he had no option but to hand Henry the layout of his life (and possibly the ways to thwart his plans). Joseph is not machinating on favour of Henry, but against him. Joseph's equivalence is number XV: the Devil. Whether it's straight or reversed, the Devil has negative connotations, so, regardless of circumstances, Joseph's ghost was trying to cause harm to Henry, or diminishing his probabilities at surviving. As Joseph appears upside-down on Room 302 of the Past, the most probable card layout intended for Joseph was reverted, which incidentally bears the most negative meanings for the given card. The scene is also reminiscent the card's layout: a demon (victimized Joseph under Walter's control) surrounded by a man and a woman chained to him (in the sense that all what he is doing is harming their probabilities at escaping Walter's plans). The dream at the beginning could be seen either as Joseph's spirit trying to get Henry's trust, one way or another, in order to manipulate him easily, or as a form of forcing Henry to know the truth before the Red Diary scraps and later the upside-down apparition were introduced in play.

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Regarding Joseph Schreiber's intention for the effects of this WMG: Joseph had no choice but to let Henry know about Walter. The information he provides as the Giver of Wisdom serves not the purpose of arming Henry with the necessary knowledge to thwart Walter's plans, but to make him apt for sacrifice. Regardless of the Walter's intentions, Henry's role required him to be present at Walter's killings after Joseph and to know about Walter's past (which Joseph obediently recollected). If Walter wanted to succeed, he had no option but to hand Henry the layout of his life (and possibly the ways to thwart his plans). Joseph is not machinating on favour of Henry, but against him. Joseph's equivalence is number XV: the Devil. Whether it's straight or reversed, the Devil has negative connotations, so, regardless of circumstances, Joseph's ghost was trying to cause harm to Henry, or diminishing his probabilities at surviving. As Joseph appears upside-down on Room 302 of the Past, the most probable card layout intended for Joseph was reverted, which incidentally bears the most negative meanings for the given card. The scene is also reminiscent the card's layout: a demon (victimized Joseph under Walter's control) surrounded by a man and a woman chained to him (in the sense that all what he is doing is harming their probabilities at escaping Walter's plans). The dream at the beginning could be seen either as Joseph's spirit trying to get Henry's trust, one way or another, in order to manipulate him easily, or as a form of forcing Henry to know the truth before the Red Diary scraps and later the upside-down apparition were introduced in play.play.

[[WMG: The random deaths Henry might experience in otherworld or in Room 302( not including the death he might suffer at the hands of Walter Sullivan) are canon.]]
Being that Henry is an important facet to the 21 sacraments and more importantly that each suitalble sacrifice has to be killed in the correct order, Walter wouldn't just let Henry die until the time was right for the sake of his mother. The diary in Henry's apartment is in fact enchanted whether the player knows it or not and everytime he uses it, it stores his life force in it along with his thoughts. That is why when the player chooses to hit the continue option instead of the load option they will be in a sense respawned(brought back to life) with everything like it was before Henry's supposed death. That's because Henry actually was revived, by dark evil malicous powers that want him dead ironically. When Henry dies it's the exact same thing as when he uses the holes to get back in the apartment, he thinks he simply just dazed out and it is his so called wild imagination at work but all of this is actually happening. When we see Walter for the first time in game in subway world he tries to kill Henry, but even if his does why doesn't he die for good being that it will supposedly be the 21st and last sacrifice? Walter is the main source of Henry's diary protective power so he should be way more stronger than it. It's because Walter doesn't want Henry to die yet unbeilievably because he's not the Reciever of Wisdom yet. Walter or better yet Evil Walter is just having some fun tormenting Henry and brutally assaulting him while Walter is invunerable(pure satanism) having a little fun time until it's really time to be
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* The Shabby Doll was originally Eileen's. If Henry stores it on his inventory box, he runs the risk of setting an apparition loose on his apartment. Why would Walter hand out and let alone curse one of his victim's possessions aside from it coming from one of his sacraments (again, trait no other victim's possessions have) is left unclear. If Eileen really is Walter, then it would make sense; Eileen would give Henry the doll in order to mark him out and curse him; the doll has no real value for her; she's just playing around the folie à deux. That would also explain the hazy meeting Eileen had with Walter; note that her tutor would not only let her be near a shady man, but also let her hand a doll out to him. Eileen was actually reminiscing on the time she first decided to become "Walter", which may or may not be an alternate personality. This may also imply that she's either a female-to-male transgender when being Walter, or having problems with being female. Her Walter side is essentially motherless, since he was technically not born from a real mother. Room 302 is probably the place where he began "having consciousness", after an undisclosed event, probably the coming of the presumed "real" Walter. That last bit about Eileen having problems with being female gains strength if you notice the female victims were more brutalized than the male ones (Miriam getting completely hacked while her brother just received an ax to the head, Cynthia being completely covered in knife wounds, Eileen getting killed by hitting her until she dies, etc).

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* The Shabby Doll was originally Eileen's. If Henry stores it on his inventory box, he runs the risk of setting an apparition loose on his apartment. Why would Walter hand out and let alone curse one of his victim's possessions aside from it coming from one of his sacraments (again, trait no other victim's possessions have) is left unclear. If Eileen really is Walter, then it would make sense; Eileen would give Henry the doll in order to mark him out and curse him; the doll has no real value for her; she's just playing around the folie à deux. That would also explain the hazy meeting Eileen had with Walter; note that her tutor would not only let her be near a shady man, but also let her hand a doll out to him. Eileen was actually reminiscing on the time she first decided to become "Walter", which may or may not be an alternate personality. This may also imply that she's either a female-to-male transgender when being Walter, or having problems with being female. Her Walter side is essentially motherless, since he was technically not born from a real mother. Room 302 is probably the place where he began "having consciousness", after an undisclosed event, probably the coming of the presumed "real" Walter. That last bit about Eileen having problems with being female gains strength if you notice the female victims were more brutalized than the male ones (Miriam getting completely hacked while her brother just received an ax to the head, Cynthia being completely covered in knife wounds, Eileen almost getting killed by hitting her until she dies, etc).
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In one of Joseph's notes the player reads that someone lied to Walter sullivan stating that Room 302 was his mother, but in another set of notes it reads that someone did tell Walter that his parents dropped him off at Room 302, so Walter was feed at least some of the truth; when the player enters apartment world for the second time and finds those things that look like bodies bags hanging up they can hear what Walter audibly remembers of his real parents when he get's close enough to them, showing the player that Walter is at least aware of the existence of his biological parents. Him despising the female body is due to him hating his real mother and the fact that people are conceived through their mother not mystically as his grown up child psyche would consider. Walter subconsiously knows that everything that the cult taught him was lies, but has built the nightmare world or better yet "his" fantasy world to escape reality rather than to isolate himself from society.

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In one of Joseph's notes the player reads that someone lied to Walter sullivan stating that Room 302 was his mother, but in another set of notes it reads that someone did tell Walter that his parents dropped him off at Room 302, so Walter was feed at least some of the truth; when the player enters apartment world for the second time and finds those things that look like bodies bags hanging up they can hear what Walter audibly remembers of his real parents when he get's close enough to them, showing the player that Walter is at least aware of the existence of his biological parents. Him despising the female body is due to him hating his real mother and the fact that people are conceived through their mother not mystically as his grown up child psyche would consider. Walter subconsiously knows that everything that the cult taught him was lies, but has built the nightmare world or better yet "his" fantasy world to escape reality rather than to isolate himself from society.society.

[[WMG: Eileen Galvin was Walter]]

Both Eileen and Henry have recollections of being together. The exchange on the hospital on the good endings imply that, at the very least, Henry was not her aggressor and that the victims really did share the experiences they lived on Walter's worlds. Moreover, the worst ending has Henry's face disfigured beyond recognition. Barring some improbable shenanigans, that implies he was not his own killer; he would have died well before inflicting disfiguring wounds to that extreme. If we knew the wounds were made post-mortem, that last fact would have been incontestable; unfortunately, we don't have that information at hand. Note here that because both Eileen and Henry have recollections of the events of the game and because of the fact that Eileen seems to get possessed by Walter the more she's hit by him or his demons (trait no other victim seems to possess), Eileen is the best candidate to be the "real" Walter, and the development and ending of the game would then be but a folie à deux, Eileen being the responsible for all of "Walter"'s killings, and Henry believing in her psychosis where a separate entity is stalking them and killing people around them. That last assumption gains strength when you realize that:
* Walter was a medic[al student], while Eileen has a nurse costume, hinting at her working as a nurse; they have similar abilities. She could have easily faked the surgical stitches performed on Walter's victims. It makes more sense than a freelance photographer faking them.
* The Shabby Doll was originally Eileen's. If Henry stores it on his inventory box, he runs the risk of setting an apparition loose on his apartment. Why would Walter hand out and let alone curse one of his victim's possessions aside from it coming from one of his sacraments (again, trait no other victim's possessions have) is left unclear. If Eileen really is Walter, then it would make sense; Eileen would give Henry the doll in order to mark him out and curse him; the doll has no real value for her; she's just playing around the folie à deux. That would also explain the hazy meeting Eileen had with Walter; note that her tutor would not only let her be near a shady man, but also let her hand a doll out to him. Eileen was actually reminiscing on the time she first decided to become "Walter", which may or may not be an alternate personality. This may also imply that she's either a female-to-male transgender when being Walter, or having problems with being female. Her Walter side is essentially motherless, since he was technically not born from a real mother. Room 302 is probably the place where he began "having consciousness", after an undisclosed event, probably the coming of the presumed "real" Walter. That last bit about Eileen having problems with being female gains strength if you notice the female victims were more brutalized than the male ones (Miriam getting completely hacked while her brother just received an ax to the head, Cynthia being completely covered in knife wounds, Eileen getting killed by hitting her until she dies, etc).
* As I've said, Eileen "connects" with Walter's memories and personality the more she is brutalized by him or his minions. Going by the assumption above, she hates being female, and sees getting hit by Walter's manifestations a way of becoming him. Outside of that assumption, it could be seen as her "Eileen" part and her "Walter" part contesting each other for dominance. Depending on how much damage she endures, she can really act like if she's Walter, especially on the scrapbook scene. She also goes towards the death machine faster the more she had been damaged, which would be the complete opposite of what should happen; the more wounded she is, the more sluggish she should become due to the pain and debilitating hits endured, mind control or not. Based on the previous assumptions, the endings are determined not by Eileen's damage and exorcism rate of the room, but whether or not Eileen's "Eileen" side wins against "Walter" side (Walter gets rid of the Eileen on his body if she dies in-game) and whether or not Henry submitted to the folie à deux (letting his room be haunted by Walter's apparitions would mean he is accepting Walter as the "real Eileen", and not Eileen herself). Note here that Walter's "win" conditions are to have possession over Henry['s apartment] and to kill Eileen; even if he gets killed by Henry before Walter can kill him, he succeeds; his real objective is to kill his female self; Henry's sacrifice is an extra he is aiming to, which I'll explain in a while.
* Walter is unable to kill Eileen until the end of the game. Little Walter saved Eileen once from big Walter, which could hint at the Walter persona starting out as an imaginary friend for Eileen, and he remembered it before killing her for the first time. He then changed tactics; he tried to gain control over Eileen's part of their mind and making her commit suicide, as to not have to kill her himself. The damage Eileen endures during the game debilitates her control over her mind, while increasing Walters'. Walter wins if Eileen dies at the last scene, and vice-versa. Her survival is also partly determined by Henry, the second participant of the dual psychosis. Even if he prevented Walter from harming Eileen, giving him an almost sure-fire way to save her from Walter, it is still possible for him to stall until Eileen dies. He basically is responsible of breaking the delusion and let Eileen be Eileen, or keep believing in Walter and thus let Walter take over completely Eileen before murdering Henry and committing suicide, or just let himself get killed, depending on the ending.
* We at least know that the "real" Walter was delusional; we know there had to be at least a "real" Walter killing people because of Silent Hill 2's magazine article on the subject; it's highly unlikely that the police officers would confuse Eileen for a male Walter. He at least killed Billy and Miriam Locane, and then tried to incriminate a so-called "Red Devil" before committing suicide. It is possible that the "Red Devil" was Eileen's "Walter" forcing the "real" Walter to kill and take the blame for him. As it's hinted that the "real" Walter was a follower of the one of Silent Hill's sects, as seen on the Wish House, it's possible that he actually thought Eileen was the reincarnation of God, [[http://images.wikia.com/silent/images/3/38/Myth3.jpg aptly dressed in red on her depictions]], and he decided to call her the Red Devil instead of God because of the atrocities she forced him to do (the Xuchilbara/Executioner imagery comes to mind, also). It then becomes completely plausible that, knowing where Walter was buried, Eileen profaned his tomb, took away his body and crucified him on room 302.
It's important to point out that the whole point of the ritual was to bring God into Earth to create a paradise, but Walter wanted to perform the ritual because he wanted to get inside his "mother", depicted as room 302 in the game. In any case, Walter chose Eileen as the "Mother" sacrifice; that would imply that he sees Eileen as how his mother would be. It could also be interpreted as him acknowledging that Eileen was his original creator, and unless he gets "inside his mother" and "gets conceived properly", he'll be forever trapped as Eileen. This also explains the amount of "birth" imagery on the game, including the umbilical cords; they represent Walter's desire to be born as "proper" Walter. At the end of the game, his own suicide as Eileen becomes fundamental for him to be a "proper Walter". Eileen's tarot equivalence is number XX: Judgement; the success of her sacrifice serves the purpose of judging whether Walter should keep on and become the "new Eileen" or Eileen should keep being Eileen. Going a little further, Henry's equivalence is number XXI: The World; this could mean that Eileen could have had feelings for Henry, and his sacrifice would sever all of Eileen's ties with the world, allowing Walter to become "proper" Walter. The World can also mean wholeness, involvement and integration, so it is also possible that Walter began to have feelings for Henry, and he felt the urge to take Henry with him in order to become proper Walter at last. It's more possible Walter had feelings for Henry because Walter gave him a means to stop him, as to let him "emergency abort" if it was not what Henry wanted or if he didn't want Walter to succeed. His role as the "Receiver of Wisdom" is merely representative; in order to accept Walter, he has to learn that he was Eileen, that he was struggling to become a proper Walter [for Henry] and that he needs his sacrifice to succeed. Even if Walter makes conscious attempts at forcing him to accept his will, it's ultimately up to Henry to decide whether Walter becomes proper or not, regardless of the result of the battle. In a sense, then, Henry ticked off Walter by sticking with his female side (note that he wasn't hostile towards Henry before, and probably didn't intend to be hostile towards him until it was time to get him integrated into his world). Walter thought he would choose Eileen instead of him, and tried to accelerate his "choice" by killing both at the same time. Note that the holes Henry sees are a means to escape Walter (Eileen cannot see the holes or escape with Henry because she is Walter in a sense); even if Walter's apparitions manage to sneak by Henry's apartment, they can be easily dispelled, contrary to what happens with apparitions in Walter's worlds. Walter essentially gave him a safe-spot while he prepared everything to become proper Walter. When Henry ticked off Walter, the latter decided Henry didn't deserve that luxury anymore. About the hole on the bathroom, Henry was supposed to see Eileen "die" at the apartment world, then get trapped in his room and eventually die by Walter. As Eileen didn't "die", Walter granted him another hole in order to see her die, but he didn't think he would get on her side, triggering the reaction I explained before. The second visits to Walter's worlds are essentially an overstaying on part of Henry and the female Eileen; the latter was supposed to die either while or shortly after the Hospital World. Under the previous assumptions, it then becomes possible that Eileen is Walter; she's the real culprit behind the killings and she's also delusional; the ending of the game determines whether she gets "cured" from Walter or not, and whether Henry accepts her as Walter or as Eileen.
Regarding Joseph Schreiber's intention for the effects of this WMG: Joseph had no choice but to let Henry know about Walter. The information he provides as the Giver of Wisdom serves not the purpose of arming Henry with the necessary knowledge to thwart Walter's plans, but to make him apt for sacrifice. Regardless of the Walter's intentions, Henry's role required him to be present at Walter's killings after Joseph and to know about Walter's past (which Joseph obediently recollected). If Walter wanted to succeed, he had no option but to hand Henry the layout of his life (and possibly the ways to thwart his plans). Joseph is not machinating on favour of Henry, but against him. Joseph's equivalence is number XV: the Devil. Whether it's straight or reversed, the Devil has negative connotations, so, regardless of circumstances, Joseph's ghost was trying to cause harm to Henry, or diminishing his probabilities at surviving. As Joseph appears upside-down on Room 302 of the Past, the most probable card layout intended for Joseph was reverted, which incidentally bears the most negative meanings for the given card. The scene is also reminiscent the card's layout: a demon (victimized Joseph under Walter's control) surrounded by a man and a woman chained to him (in the sense that all what he is doing is harming their probabilities at escaping Walter's plans). The dream at the beginning could be seen either as Joseph's spirit trying to get Henry's trust, one way or another, in order to manipulate him easily, or as a form of forcing Henry to know the truth before the Red Diary scraps and later the upside-down apparition were introduced in play.
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He then isolates himself from everyone and begins living in Silent Hill alone. In those days living there, his hair has become long and wears a coat, and begins his killings again under the name Walter Sullivan. The police has arrested him; this is part of Johan's plan to commit suicide while being locked up. He ''finally' did it, but his murders in Silent Hill have been part of a ritual to brought him back as a ghost. His soul splits into two: the psychopathic adult (the Monster personality) and the normal child (the normal personality). Johan has transferred his dead body into Room 302 and plans again the murders to have someone kill the Monster personality. That's when Henry Townsend gets to do it and successfully killed that personality.

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He then isolates himself from everyone and begins living in Silent Hill alone. In those days living there, his hair has become long and wears a coat, and begins his killings again under the name Walter Sullivan. The police has arrested him; this is part of Johan's plan to commit suicide while being locked up. He ''finally' ''finally'' did it, but his murders in Silent Hill have been part of a ritual to brought him back as a ghost. His soul splits into two: the psychopathic adult (the Monster personality) and the normal child (the normal personality). Johan has transferred his dead body into Room 302 and plans again the murders to have someone kill the Monster personality. That's when Henry Townsend gets to do it and successfully killed that personality.
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He then isolates himself from everyone and begins living in Silent Hill alone. In those days living there, his hair has become long and wears a coat, and finds the corpse of Sullivan hanging there. As a result, Johan has taken his name and begins murdering the people who were his targets. As for Little Walter, he is the manifestation of how crazy he has become ever since he lived in Silent Hill. His goal is to kill everyone in town until someone kills him, and that is Henry. Johan has died by him and his plan is fulfilled. It is shown in the "21 Sacraments" ending that his dead body is in Room 302.

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He then isolates himself from everyone and begins living in Silent Hill alone. In those days living there, his hair has become long and wears a coat, and finds begins his killings again under the corpse name Walter Sullivan. The police has arrested him; this is part of Sullivan hanging there. As Johan's plan to commit suicide while being locked up. He ''finally' did it, but his murders in Silent Hill have been part of a result, ritual to brought him back as a ghost. His soul splits into two: the psychopathic adult (the Monster personality) and the normal child (the normal personality). Johan has taken his name and begins murdering the people who were his targets. As for Little Walter, he is the manifestation of how crazy he has become ever since he lived in Silent Hill. His goal is to kill everyone in town until someone kills him, and that is Henry. Johan has died by him and his plan is fulfilled. It is shown in the "21 Sacraments" ending that transferred his dead body is in into Room 302.302 and plans again the murders to have someone kill the Monster personality. That's when Henry Townsend gets to do it and successfully killed that personality.
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In one of Joseph's notes the player reads that someone lied to Walter sullivan stating that Room 302 was his mother, but in another set of notes it reads that someone did tell Walter that his parents dropped him off at Room 302, so Walter was feed at least some of the truth. Him despising the female body is due to him hating his real mother and the fact that people are conceived through their mother not some sort of room. Walter subconsiously knows that everything that the cult taught him was lies, but has built the nightmare world or better yet "his" fantasy world to escape reality rather than to isolate himself from society.

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In one of Joseph's notes the player reads that someone lied to Walter sullivan stating that Room 302 was his mother, but in another set of notes it reads that someone did tell Walter that his parents dropped him off at Room 302, so Walter was feed at least some of the truth. truth; when the player enters apartment world for the second time and finds those things that look like bodies bags hanging up they can hear what Walter audibly remembers of his real parents when he get's close enough to them, showing the player that Walter is at least aware of the existence of his biological parents. Him despising the female body is due to him hating his real mother and the fact that people are conceived through their mother not some sort of room.mystically as his grown up child psyche would consider. Walter subconsiously knows that everything that the cult taught him was lies, but has built the nightmare world or better yet "his" fantasy world to escape reality rather than to isolate himself from society.
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Explaining why he hates all other forms of life and more importantly his insanity.

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Explaining why he hates all other forms of life and more importantly his insanity.insanity.

[[WMG: Walter's ''{{Psychopathic Man Child}}'' status stems from his inability to accept the truth rather than the cult's teachings]]
In one of Joseph's notes the player reads that someone lied to Walter sullivan stating that Room 302 was his mother, but in another set of notes it reads that someone did tell Walter that his parents dropped him off at Room 302, so Walter was feed at least some of the truth. Him despising the female body is due to him hating his real mother and the fact that people are conceived through their mother not some sort of room. Walter subconsiously knows that everything that the cult taught him was lies, but has built the nightmare world or better yet "his" fantasy world to escape reality rather than to isolate himself from society.
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He doesn't really care for social activity, also most would find it kind of odd how someone could be locked in a room with no interaction and still look as normal as if something like that wasn't going on. He sometimes has trouble socializing when ever he does choose to do so, an example of this is his somewhat akward verbal exchange with Richard Braintree. His brain is wired to a specific routine and hates having it being disturbed such as him living his life the same day everyday and being very content with it and no wanting any alterations in it(He lived in his apartment for two years and was enjoying his life) one could see that nothing was really going on before the Walter Sullivan conflict meaning that he wasn't really doing that much except living a normal life. He possess a narrow aray of interest, we see all of Henry's interest in his apartment: cars, photography,apparently smoking. Finally he appears to be heavily fixated with something just as anyone with Aspergers his, he seems to take a very keen interest or almost an obsession with Silent Hill.

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He doesn't really care for social activity, also most would find it kind of odd how someone could be locked in a room with no interaction and still look as normal as if something like that wasn't going on. He sometimes has trouble socializing when ever he does choose to do so, an example of this is his somewhat akward verbal exchange with Richard Braintree. His brain is wired to a specific routine and hates having it being disturbed such as him living his life the same day everyday and being very content with it and no wanting any alterations in it(He lived in his apartment for two years and was enjoying his life) one could see that nothing was really going on before the Walter Sullivan conflict meaning that he wasn't really doing that much except living a normal life. He possess a narrow aray of interest, we see all of Henry's interest in his apartment: cars, photography,apparently smoking. Finally he appears to be heavily fixated with something just as anyone with Aspergers his, he seems to take a very keen interest or almost an obsession with Silent Hill.Hill.

[[WMG: Walter Sullivan is suffering from severe xenophobia.]]
Explaining why he hates all other forms of life and more importantly his insanity.
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We know that the whole entire setting is Walter Sullivan's mindset, the more deeper the player delves deeper in there the more the player learns about Walter Sullivan because they are really digging in his mind. When Henry(the player) get's the umbillical cord they see a brief glimpse of his real parents, to add to that before the player enters Frank Sunderland's room for the second time they hear Walter parents so we the player know that Walter at least knows what his parents look and sound like. Why he didn't hunt them down to appease the ten hearts sacrifice is because he was still human at the time and had no way to find them. After Walter Sullivan performed the ritual of the "holy" assumption we know he attained numerous supernatrual powers even the ability to track someone down from hundreds or even thousands miles away(Tony Archibolt, the dude who got killed outside of the U.S). Walter doesn't acknowledge or better yet accept the fact that the couple he saw was a baby was his parents and has created a false world of illusion that revolves around the fact that Room 302 is his mother, to help him do this he tries to block out the identity of his biological parents; that's why the player never actually hears his real parents name. If by some chance he didn't know his parents name he could of easily found out by checking through the apartments past room owner records, but he won't because he doesn't acknowledge the truth. The reason why he didn't murder them for the round two murders is because they didn't fit any of the murder themes. If he knew where they were while he was committing the round one murders(ten hearts) he would of killed them because that required ten random humans, but the round two murders were a lot more specific.

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We know that the whole entire setting is Walter Sullivan's mindset, the more deeper the player delves deeper in there the more the player learns about Walter Sullivan because they are really digging in his mind. When Henry(the player) get's the umbillical cord they see a brief glimpse of his real parents, to add to that before the player enters Frank Sunderland's room for the second time they hear Walter parents so we the player know that Walter at least knows what his parents look and sound like. Why he didn't hunt them down to appease the ten hearts sacrifice is because he was still human at the time and had no way to find them. After Walter Sullivan performed the ritual of the "holy" assumption we know he attained numerous supernatrual powers even the ability to track someone down from hundreds or even thousands miles away(Tony Archibolt, the dude who got killed outside of the U.S). Walter doesn't acknowledge or better yet accept the fact that the couple he saw was a baby was his parents and has created a false world of illusion that revolves around the fact that Room 302 is his mother, to help him do this he tries to block out the identity of his biological parents; that's why the player never actually hears his real parents name. If by some chance he didn't know his parents name he could of easily found out by checking through the apartments past room owner records, but he won't because he doesn't acknowledge the truth. The reason why he didn't murder them for the round two murders is because they didn't fit any of the murder themes. If he knew where they were while he was committing the round one murders(ten hearts) he would of killed them because that required ten random humans, but the round two murders were a lot more specific.specific.

[[WMG: Henry Townsend is a man with Aspergers Syndrome.]]
He doesn't really care for social activity, also most would find it kind of odd how someone could be locked in a room with no interaction and still look as normal as if something like that wasn't going on. He sometimes has trouble socializing when ever he does choose to do so, an example of this is his somewhat akward verbal exchange with Richard Braintree. His brain is wired to a specific routine and hates having it being disturbed such as him living his life the same day everyday and being very content with it and no wanting any alterations in it(He lived in his apartment for two years and was enjoying his life) one could see that nothing was really going on before the Walter Sullivan conflict meaning that he wasn't really doing that much except living a normal life. He possess a narrow aray of interest, we see all of Henry's interest in his apartment: cars, photography,apparently smoking. Finally he appears to be heavily fixated with something just as anyone with Aspergers his, he seems to take a very keen interest or almost an obsession with Silent Hill.

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