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[[WMG: Big Jack Horner was originally in cahoots with Lord Farquaad]]
Given that Big Jack Horner had collected magical artefacts from many places and magical beings, it's fairly possible that he could've originally been allies with Lord Farquaad, who probably gave him said items, at one point before the events of the first Shrek film, all until his death.
Given that Big Jack Horner had collected magical artefacts from many places and magical beings, it's fairly possible that he could've originally been allies with Lord Farquaad, who probably gave him said items, at one point before the events of the first Shrek film, all until his death.
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[[WMG: Puss was about to drink himself to death when the wolf first showed up]]
To Puss, leche (milk) is like alcohol, and there were 8 empty glasses on the bar in front of him, symbolizing the 8 lives he had already thrown away frivolously. He asked for a 9th drink shortly before Death appeared next to him.
To Puss, leche (milk) is like alcohol, and there were 8 empty glasses on the bar in front of him, symbolizing the 8 lives he had already thrown away frivolously. He asked for a 9th drink shortly before Death appeared next to him.
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[[WMG: Death will be romanced by ComicBook/Thanos]]
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This is a huge CrackShip that could only ever be real if (god forbid) [[DisneyOwnsThisTrope Disney bought DreamWorks,]] but a man can dream.
This is a huge CrackShip that could only ever be real if (god forbid) [[DisneyOwnsThisTrope Disney bought DreamWorks,]] but a man can dream.
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** As a child, he refused to change his overused act, boring his audience. This could represent how Disney now focuses on huge franchises and live-action remakes at the expense of original properties, leading to fan backlash.
** Not to mention that he has many parallels with Farquaad, who we ''know'' is meant to be a satire of Disney.
** Not to mention that he has many parallels with Farquaad, who we ''know'' is meant to be a satire of Disney.
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** Counterpoint: We never learn what would have actually happened if Jack got all the magic in the world. Perhaps Jack's forest would have been [[SchmuckBait extremely easy...]] right up until Jack actually used the star and spectacularly blew himself up using his stolen magic.
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The Dark Forest never actually let them in. Puss, Kitty, Perrito, Goldi and the Three Bears (as a unit) and Jack Horner all have their own icon, but none of the Dozen do, nor do they appear on Jack's icon. Why? The Wishing Star isn't evil. It knew its only hope to get Jack to not destroy the world with his wish was lethal force, but the Baker's Dozen are just employees, kept in line through paychecks and abuse. What loyalty they have is misguided at best, and doesn't run deep.
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The Dark Forest never actually let them in. Puss, Kitty, Perrito, Goldi and the Three Bears (as a unit) and Jack Horner all have their own icon, but none of the Dozen do, nor do they appear on Jack's icon. Why? The Wishing Star isn't evil.
It knew its only hope to get Jack to not destroy the world with his wish was lethal force, but the Baker's Dozen are just employees, kept in line through paychecks and abuse. What loyalty they have is misguided at best, and doesn't rundeep.deep.
It knew its only hope to get Jack to not destroy the world with his wish was lethal force, but the Baker's Dozen are just employees, kept in line through paychecks and abuse. What loyalty they have is misguided at best, and doesn't run
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[[WMG: The Baker's Dozen aren't actually dead]]
The Dark Forest never actually let them in. Puss, Kitty, Perrito, Goldi and the Three Bears (as a unit) and Jack Horner all have their own icon, but none of the Dozen do, nor do they appear on Jack's icon. Why? The Wishing Star isn't evil. It knew its only hope to get Jack to not destroy the world with his wish was lethal force, but the Baker's Dozen are just employees, kept in line through paychecks and abuse. What loyalty they have is misguided at best, and doesn't run deep.
As the Forest killed them, they each woke up outside, none the worse for wear except for a very vivid nightmare and, after the human bridge incident if not the unicorn crossbow into melee incident, the knowledge that Jack really wasn't worth it.
Once the Star was freed and the Bears came out, they enthusiastically jumped at the chance of having a better boss, maybe even branching out into savoury pies - or at least anything other than plum...
The Dark Forest never actually let them in. Puss, Kitty, Perrito, Goldi and the Three Bears (as a unit) and Jack Horner all have their own icon, but none of the Dozen do, nor do they appear on Jack's icon. Why? The Wishing Star isn't evil. It knew its only hope to get Jack to not destroy the world with his wish was lethal force, but the Baker's Dozen are just employees, kept in line through paychecks and abuse. What loyalty they have is misguided at best, and doesn't run deep.
As the Forest killed them, they each woke up outside, none the worse for wear except for a very vivid nightmare and, after the human bridge incident if not the unicorn crossbow into melee incident, the knowledge that Jack really wasn't worth it.
Once the Star was freed and the Bears came out, they enthusiastically jumped at the chance of having a better boss, maybe even branching out into savoury pies - or at least anything other than plum...
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* After Puss gets cut and loses his sword, Death keeps telling him to "pick it up".
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* Even when chasing Puss out of the cave, the most he does is grab at his cape.
* Finally, when they meet at the Wishing Star, Death asks if Puss is "gonna take the coward's way out and run away to more lives, or fight." Death then returns Puss' sword and demands him to pick it up.
* Finally, when they meet at the Wishing Star, Death asks if Puss is "gonna take the coward's way out and run away to more lives, or fight." Death then returns Puss' sword and demands him to pick it up.
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* Even when chasing Puss out of the cave, the most he does is grab at his cape.cape, never swipe at him with his blades.
* Finally, when they meet at the Wishing Star, Death asks if Puss is "gonna take the coward's way out and run away to more lives, orfight." fight" Death then returns Puss' sword and demands him to pick it up. Death had plenty of time to just kill Puss before he could read the spell, but the dialogue implies he couldn't actually stop Puss from making the wish.
* Finally, when they meet at the Wishing Star, Death asks if Puss is "gonna take the coward's way out and run away to more lives, or
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Evidence: When Death first appears, he says "everyone thinks they'll defeat him, but no one has yet" and doesn't make a move until Puss raises his sword first. After Puss gets cut and loses his sword, Death keeps telling him to "pick it up". For the rest of the movie, Death keeps appearing to intimidate Puss but never attacks. In the Cave of Lost Souls, the only time Death uses his sickles are against the past lives in the crystals, never against Puss himself. Even when chasing Puss out of the cave, the most he does is grab at his cape. Finally, when they meet at the Wishing Star, Death asks if Puss is "gonna take the coward's way out and run away to more lives, or fight." Death then returns Puss' sword and demands him to pick it up. And Death only starts fighting after Puss finally says he's done running and picks up his sword. If he had wanted to, he probably could have still killed Puss right after telling him he'd never stop fighting for this life because he still had his sword raised at him.
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*After Puss gets cut and loses his sword, Death keeps telling him to "pick it
* For the rest of the movie, Death keeps appearing to intimidate Puss but never
*In the Cave of Lost Souls, the only time Death uses his sickles are against the past lives in the crystals, never against Puss
*Even when chasing Puss out of the cave, the most he does is grab at his
*Finally, when they meet at the Wishing Star, Death asks if Puss is "gonna take the coward's way out and run away to more lives, or fight." Death then returns Puss' sword and demands him to pick it up.
*Death only starts fighting after Puss finally says he's done running and picks up his sword. If he had wanted to, he probably could have still killed Puss right after telling him he'd never stop fighting for this life because he still had his sword raised at him.
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And this relationship is a positive one. Besides life and Death being connected concepts; Death is noticably angry about Puss wasting his lives. Which would make sense if Death has a psoitive relationship with Life.
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And this relationship is a positive one. Besides life and Death being connected concepts; Death is noticably noticeably angry about Puss wasting his lives. Which would make sense if Death has a psoitive positive relationship with Life.
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Death is still bound by the laws of nature and can't take Puss' last life without cause. But there's an exception that Death can take the life of [[ChessWithDeath someone who directly challenges him to some kind of contest]]. So, everything he did wasn't just for the fun of the hunt, it was to goad Puss' ego into attacking him so his life would be on the line for challenging him. Every time Death appeared when Puss was unarmed and not in a position to fight him, he never went for the killing blow because he literally wasn't allowed to.
Evidence: When Death first appears, he says "everyone thinks they'll defeat him, but no one has yet" and doesn't make a move until Puss raises his sword first. After Puss gets cut and loses his sword, Death keeps telling him to "pick it up". For the rest of the movie, Death keeps appearing to intimidate Puss but never attacks. In the Cave of Lost Souls, the only time Death uses his sickles are against the past lives in the crystals, never against Puss himself. Even when chasing Puss out of the cave, the most he does is grab at his cape. Finally, when they meet at the Wishing Star, Death asks if Puss is "gonna take the coward's way out and run away to more lives, or fight." Death then returns Puss' sword and demands him to pick it up. And Death only starts fighting after Puss finally says he's done running and picks up his sword. If he had wanted to, he probably could have still killed Puss right after telling him he'd never stop fighting for this life because he still had his sword raised at him.
Death is still bound by the laws of nature and can't take Puss' last life without cause. But there's an exception that Death can take the life of [[ChessWithDeath someone who directly challenges him to some kind of contest]]. So, everything he did wasn't just for the fun of the hunt, it was to goad Puss' ego into attacking him so his life would be on the line for challenging him. Every time Death appeared when Puss was unarmed and not in a position to fight him, he never went for the killing blow because he literally wasn't allowed to.
Evidence: When Death first appears, he says "everyone thinks they'll defeat him, but no one has yet" and doesn't make a move until Puss raises his sword first. After Puss gets cut and loses his sword, Death keeps telling him to "pick it up". For the rest of the movie, Death keeps appearing to intimidate Puss but never attacks. In the Cave of Lost Souls, the only time Death uses his sickles are against the past lives in the crystals, never against Puss himself. Even when chasing Puss out of the cave, the most he does is grab at his cape. Finally, when they meet at the Wishing Star, Death asks if Puss is "gonna take the coward's way out and run away to more lives, or fight." Death then returns Puss' sword and demands him to pick it up. And Death only starts fighting after Puss finally says he's done running and picks up his sword. If he had wanted to, he probably could have still killed Puss right after telling him he'd never stop fighting for this life because he still had his sword raised at him.
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[[WMG: Puss and Kitty will raise a family by the end of the next film]]
With Puss on his last life, he and Kitty may decide to settle down for a while and then pass on adventuring to a new generation of kittens, with Perrito as a doting uncle. Especially since Shrek and Donkey are both raising families, it would make sense for Puss to join the path of fatherhood as well.
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** Another idea is an adaptation of ''Literature/GodfatherDeath'' as this depiction of Death already has some similarities to Death in that story.
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** Another idea is an adaptation of ''Literature/GodfatherDeath'' as this depiction of Death already has some similarities to Death in that story. Though they would obviously either have to change the circumstances of why Death is the godfather or excise it entirely.[[note]]Before Death, {{God}} and {{Satan}} offered to be the boy's godfather. The boy's father [[GodAndSatanAreBothJerks refused both of them]], Satan for obvious reasons, and God because He only gives to the wealthy and doesn't give a rat's ass about the poor.[[/note]]
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[[WMG: Death is Anubis]]
* Anubis is Egyptian God of the Dead. Similarities include:
** Both are Canines.
** Both are Gods of Death.
** Both judge people.
** Both use sickle/khopesh and halberd with a sickle.
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[[WMG:Life is also has an anthropomorphic representation who is connected to Death]]
And this relationship is a positive one. Besides life and Death being connected concepts; Death is noticably angry about Puss wasting his lives. Which would make sense if Death has a psoitive relationship with Life.
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And this relationship is a positive one. Besides life and Death being connected concepts; Death is noticably angry about Puss wasting his lives. Which would make sense if Death has a psoitive relationship with Life.
And this relationship is a positive one. Besides life and Death being connected concepts; Death is noticably angry about Puss wasting his lives. Which would make sense if Death has a psoitive relationship with Life.
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[[WMG:The Wolf is InvisibleToNormals]]
We end up finding out The Wolf is Death incarnate, and for most of the film, the only person who notices him is Puss-in-Boots, who's on his last life.
No matter where he appears, nobody else notices him, except during the climax, where everybody's surrounded by the Wishing Star's barrier where one wrong move could spell their doom.
With this in mind, perhaps The Wolf is physically invisible to those who still have some life left in them, or are stuck in a situation where death is very much a possibility.
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[[WMG: Any wish made by the Wishing Star would've backfired in some way]]
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[[WMG: Any wish made by the Wishing Star would've backfired in some way]]either backfired, or been worthless]]
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[[WMG: The Wolf’s Whistle Is a Rendition of the Song “Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again”]]
Albeit a slowed version. However, if you listen closely, he doesn’t start the melody at the beginning of the song, but rather at the fourth verse, when one sings “♫ Wishing I could hear your voice again. Knowing that I never would. ♫”, signalizing the mourning of a deceased loved one.
But ultimately, the song is about moving past death and not resenting lost time (hence, why he whistles it), which is what the Wolf teaches Puss.
[[WMG: The Wolf is Thanatos the Greek God of Death]]
It doesn’t get more “straight up” than being the divine personification of death as a concept. That’s why the Wolf doesn’t bother pursuing Puss when he runs. As a divine being, he is literally everywhere, all at once, in every different scenario that may diverge into an alternative timeline. Not only that, but he is also all knowing, meaning he knows how the story plays out and how it ends. This is also why it is impossible to beat him, as he knows every move you’d ever make. It is also said that death is our eternal companion, another reason why he doesn’t chase his quarry…he’s always with you…
Furthermore, when Puss spots him a second time, while fleeing, the Wolf places two gold coins over his eyes, while gesturing to Puss that he’s watching him. This was a funerary custom in Ancient Greece, where gold coins were placed above the closed eyes of a person’s body, in order to pay the ferryman of the Underworld, Chrion, in order to cross the River Styx.
He’s enacting the age old Greek god custom of knocking a hubristic mortal down a few pegs, so they learn how to become better people and avoid tragedy (or die trying).
**In Greek myth, the Wolf’s weapons, the sickle, is a symbol of Chronos the God (and personification) of Time. And in his hands, it symbolizes the end of one’s life.
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** Horner would receive all the magic in the world, which would include magic which would end up affecting him negatively, such as curses.
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** Horner would receive all the magic in the world, which would include magic which would end up affecting him negatively, such as curses. being TooMuchForManToHandle and he would either die or become an unstable HumanoidAbomination like Tetsuo from ''Akira''.
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[[WMG: Any wish made by the Wishing Star would've backfired in some way]]
Each character's path to the star appears to be designed to dissuade them from making their wish by showing them that they don't need it, and making them learn some kind of lesson to help them grow into better people. The two exceptions are Perrito (whom the star apparently judges as pure of heart, and who doesn't ''have'' a wish to make) and Jack Horner (who never gets the map at all, and thus his own path is never shown). No one ends up getting to make the wish, but if they had, it would've blown up in their face somehow as punishment for failing to learn anything on their path, and leave them either no better off than they were before, or worse off.
** Puss' wish for more lives would've been utterly pointless because of Death's relentless pursuit of him, as well as his own tendency to squander them.
** Kitty's wish for a person she could trust would've simply granted her a mirror; her failure allow herself to take down her walls and let people in would ensure that the only person she could trust would be herself, and she would be no better off than she was before.
** Goldi would be reunited with her birth family...only to discover that they were all a bunch of abusive assholes and she was far better off with the bears.
** Horner would receive all the magic in the world, which would include magic which would end up affecting him negatively, such as curses.
Each character's path to the star appears to be designed to dissuade them from making their wish by showing them that they don't need it, and making them learn some kind of lesson to help them grow into better people. The two exceptions are Perrito (whom the star apparently judges as pure of heart, and who doesn't ''have'' a wish to make) and Jack Horner (who never gets the map at all, and thus his own path is never shown). No one ends up getting to make the wish, but if they had, it would've blown up in their face somehow as punishment for failing to learn anything on their path, and leave them either no better off than they were before, or worse off.
** Puss' wish for more lives would've been utterly pointless because of Death's relentless pursuit of him, as well as his own tendency to squander them.
** Kitty's wish for a person she could trust would've simply granted her a mirror; her failure allow herself to take down her walls and let people in would ensure that the only person she could trust would be herself, and she would be no better off than she was before.
** Goldi would be reunited with her birth family...only to discover that they were all a bunch of abusive assholes and she was far better off with the bears.
** Horner would receive all the magic in the world, which would include magic which would end up affecting him negatively, such as curses.
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[[WMG: Kitty was lying about not showing up to the wedding either]]
She ''did'' show up, but after realizing that Puss was genuinely regretful about leaving her at the alter, she just told him that she didn't show up either in order to make him not feel as bad about it.
She ''did'' show up, but after realizing that Puss was genuinely regretful about leaving her at the alter, she just told him that she didn't show up either in order to make him not feel as bad about it.
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A place inhabited by an army of Jack's flaws made manifest: an impossibly vast desert symbolizing he's empty inside. Giant plums all singing his nursery rhyme hanging from trees symbolizing his insecurities that just spawn ''more'' the more he burns, crushes, or smashes them. And an indestructible gate house run by a cheerful, immortal, invincible, business lady who Jack can't kill, intimidate, bind, avoid, etc, and forces Jack to experience helplessness, and the toll always being manipulated ... trapping him in a metaphysical prison he could only escape if he learned empathy.
A place inhabited by an army of Jack's flaws made manifest: an impossibly vast desert symbolizing he's empty inside. Giant plums all singing his nursery rhyme hanging from trees symbolizing his insecurities that just spawn ''more'' the more he burns, crushes, or smashes them. And an indestructible gate house run by a cheerful, immortal, invincible, business lady who Jack can't kill, intimidate, bind, avoid, etc, and forces Jack to experience helplessness, and the toll always being manipulated ... trapping him in a metaphysical prison he could only escape if he learned empathy.
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There is no explanation given for why the Baker's Dozen is loyal to Jack, someone who is not only openly apathetic to their wellbeing, but directly causes most of their deaths. One possible explanation for this level of devotion is that they were all orphans taken in by Jack and raised by him (or, more accurately, by his factory workers). Given that this is Jack, he of course would not have taken them in out of the goodness of his heart, but because children would work for less (or for free).
There is no explanation given for why the Baker's Dozen is loyal to Jack, someone who is not only openly apathetic to their wellbeing, but directly causes most of their deaths. One possible explanation for this level of devotion is that they were all orphans taken in by Jack and raised by him (or, more accurately, by his factory workers). Given that this is Jack, he of course would not have taken them in out of the goodness of his heart, but because children would work for less (or for free).
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* Tumblr user starleska also made [[https://www.tumblr.com/starleska/706274502752010240/i-think-big-jack-horner-is-disney-and-heres?source=share&_branch_match_id=812754536319338068&utm_source=web&utm_medium=Share&_branch_referrer=H4sIAAAAAAAAAwXBAQqAMAgAwBeZRATRb2xZszU31IJ%2B312O6L4iUgzx1O22IbWKHmQ3eyEUiCxaYJMTLkoFcjNlA3HYxZU%2FIN0hs7EjvbUvo85TP%2BIHqhA7MlgAAAA%3D a lengthy essay]] that delves into this interpretation.
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[[WMG: Jack Horner handed over a number of magical creatures to Lord Farquad in the original Shrek film.]]
Horner holds an intense hostility to and jealousy of magical fairy tale creatures and beings, much like Farquad. It would make sense for Horner, as part of his efforts to acquire magical artifacts, to go hunting for animals and other beings with magical abilities to take their stuff and why not get a little extra money on the side by taking the beings in question prisoner and turning them in to a somewhat local, like-minded monarch?
[[WMG: Expanding on the above, Horner personally convinced/threatened Gepetto to hand Pinnochio over to Farquad.]]
Whether he threatened Gepetto or simply sweet-talked him into handing over the puppet, Horner acting as TheCorrupter would fit his character, as would seeking petty revenge on the magical creature who upstaged him as a child.
Horner holds an intense hostility to and jealousy of magical fairy tale creatures and beings, much like Farquad. It would make sense for Horner, as part of his efforts to acquire magical artifacts, to go hunting for animals and other beings with magical abilities to take their stuff and why not get a little extra money on the side by taking the beings in question prisoner and turning them in to a somewhat local, like-minded monarch?
[[WMG: Expanding on the above, Horner personally convinced/threatened Gepetto to hand Pinnochio over to Farquad.]]
Whether he threatened Gepetto or simply sweet-talked him into handing over the puppet, Horner acting as TheCorrupter would fit his character, as would seeking petty revenge on the magical creature who upstaged him as a child.
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* The Wishing Star is implied to not want to be found by anybody, and it changes its layout in accordance to whoever is holding the map. This change is always meant to not just reflect the person's wishes, but to allow them to appreciate what they have. When the map changes for Kitty, Puss and Goldi, it provides them with a lot of challenges, but also gives them chances to self-reflect on what they have and reevaluate whether they want to actually make their wish or not (the cabin Goldi and the Bears find help her to realize that she already has a family, and Puss confronting his past lives allows him to face down Death properly in the end). Jack, on the other hand, is completely incapable of such self-reflection, so such a change to the environment would not work on him at all. Instead, had Jack gotten the map, it would have simply kicked him out of the forest to avoid the wish falling into the wrong hands.
** It's also simple math. Puss, Kitty, Goldi and the Bears all have somewhat selfish but ultimately small scale wishes that only really effect themselves, and as such, the Dark Forest, while difficult to navigate for them, doesn't make it impossible to get the Wishing Star because if they do get it, it ultimately won't be ''that'' bad for the world at large. Perrito, someone who doesn't have any wish to make, is given the easiest path because the Wishing Star knows he's not interested in the slightest. Jack is on the opposite extreme; he has an insanely selfish wish that would not only alter the fate of the world for ''everyone'', but do so ''extremely'' negatively, and the Forest would theoretically retaliate in full.
* The Wishing Star is implied to not want to be found by anybody, and it changes its layout in accordance to whoever is holding the map. This change is always meant to not just reflect the person's wishes, but to allow them to appreciate what they have. When the map changes for Kitty, Puss and Goldi, it provides them with a lot of challenges, but also gives them chances to self-reflect on what they have and reevaluate whether they want to actually make their wish or not (the cabin Goldi and the Bears find help her to realize that she already has a family, and Puss confronting his past lives allows him to face down Death properly in the end). Jack, on the other hand, is completely incapable of such self-reflection, so such a change to the environment would not work on him at all. Instead, had Jack gotten the map, it would have simply kicked him out of the forest to avoid the wish falling into the wrong hands.
** It's also simple math. Puss, Kitty, Goldi and the Bears all have somewhat selfish but ultimately small scale wishes that only really effect themselves, and as such, the Dark Forest, while difficult to navigate for them, doesn't make it impossible to get the Wishing Star because if they do get it, it ultimately won't be ''that'' bad for the world at large. Perrito, someone who doesn't have any wish to make, is given the easiest path because the Wishing Star knows he's not interested in the slightest. Jack is on the opposite extreme; he has an insanely selfish wish that would not only alter the fate of the world for ''everyone'', but do so ''extremely'' negatively, and the Forest would theoretically retaliate in full.
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[[WMG: Death is just playing, as a way to teach a lesson]]
* Death takes a different form for anyone, and for the arrogant legendary Puss in Boots, the fitting form is a sadistic bounty hunter who mocks him at every turn. However:
** Death never actually goes in for a kill, no matter what opportunities he has.
** He never shows up at the Cat Refuge, even when Puss tries to fight back.
** When he says he can end Puss in the cavern of lost souls, one soul says "but that's cheating", before Death destroys that image and says "don't tell".
** In their final duel, Death seems to actively restrict himself, going for more of a flashy duel than for the more pragmatic routes, like he is playing.
** The final moment when they lock eyes during the duel, Death says he came to reap an arrogant little legend.
Death can not kill Puss in Boots, because, as with many fairy tales, he has a set of rules and morals. He is also not there to actually kill the cat. He is there to kill the legend, and he did when Puss learnt the lesson about the value of life.
They will meet some day, and Death may not take the form of a wolf at that point.
* Death takes a different form for anyone, and for the arrogant legendary Puss in Boots, the fitting form is a sadistic bounty hunter who mocks him at every turn. However:
** Death never actually goes in for a kill, no matter what opportunities he has.
** He never shows up at the Cat Refuge, even when Puss tries to fight back.
** When he says he can end Puss in the cavern of lost souls, one soul says "but that's cheating", before Death destroys that image and says "don't tell".
** In their final duel, Death seems to actively restrict himself, going for more of a flashy duel than for the more pragmatic routes, like he is playing.
** The final moment when they lock eyes during the duel, Death says he came to reap an arrogant little legend.
Death can not kill Puss in Boots, because, as with many fairy tales, he has a set of rules and morals. He is also not there to actually kill the cat. He is there to kill the legend, and he did when Puss learnt the lesson about the value of life.
They will meet some day, and Death may not take the form of a wolf at that point.
