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[[WMG: Big Jack Horner is the [[TakeThat satirical embodiment of modern-day Disney]]]]
* This one is actually "borrowed" from [[https://knowyourmeme.com/comments/6100315#comment_6100315 a comment on]] Website/KnowYourMeme, where the following points and observations were made:
** Jack runs a ludicrously wealthy company inherited from his family (Symbolic of Disney execs taking over the wealth and fame that was attributed to Walt)
** He collects magical artifacts (Disney's continuous desire to have a monopoly on the "magic" of what makes people attached to film and television)
** His wish is to have all of the world's magic ([[DisneyOwnsThisTrope Disney is obsessed with attempting to create a media monopoly]])
** Mass production of pies, all of which are plum pies (Disney releasing similarly-plotted movies for the past decade)
** He [[BadBoss actively abuses and sacrifices his workers to reach his goals]] (Self-explanatory, as Disney has done this nonstop since the '90s; in fact, that was why Dreamworks was founded in the first place)
* This one is actually "borrowed" from [[https://knowyourmeme.com/comments/6100315#comment_6100315 a comment on]] Website/KnowYourMeme, where the following points and observations were made:
** Jack runs a ludicrously wealthy company inherited from his family (Symbolic of Disney execs taking over the wealth and fame that was attributed to Walt)
** He collects magical artifacts (Disney's continuous desire to have a monopoly on the "magic" of what makes people attached to film and television)
** His wish is to have all of the world's magic ([[DisneyOwnsThisTrope Disney is obsessed with attempting to create a media monopoly]])
** Mass production of pies, all of which are plum pies (Disney releasing similarly-plotted movies for the past decade)
** He [[BadBoss actively abuses and sacrifices his workers to reach his goals]] (Self-explanatory, as Disney has done this nonstop since the '90s; in fact, that was why Dreamworks was founded in the first place)
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* It was just a matter of getting him to properly respect the value of his life that was the trick. The whole unavoidable death, sadistic streak, etc was a show to get someone who clearly needed it to start respecting his life so he would die pointlessly. Granted he did enjoy it, the 'laugh in the face of death' boast was angering him, and was a bit annoyed the fun ended earlier then anticipated but getting Puss to respect death and the value of life was his actual goal the whole time. After all he's death he had to know exactly what would happen being a force of nature who has seen this sort of story play out since the dawn of time.
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* It was just a matter of getting him to properly respect the value of his life that was the trick. The whole unavoidable death, sadistic streak, etc was a show to get someone who clearly needed it to start respecting his life so he would die pointlessly. Granted he did enjoy it, the 'laugh in the face of death' boast was angering him, and was a bit annoyed the fun ended earlier then anticipated but getting Puss to respect death and the value of life was his actual goal the whole time. After all he's death Death; he had to know exactly what would happen happen/ being a force of nature who has seen this sort of story play out since the dawn of time.
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[[WMG:The next movie will be in Interquel.]]
It might not be logical to have it carry-off from The Last Wish because that's where Shrek 5 may begin, and also not logical to carry-off from Shrek 5, since Puss in Boots may not even be alive (Heroic Sacrifice theory) or not want to risk losing his last life, a film taking place during one of Puss' several lives or mere days before his 1st or 8th death is plausible, but a sequel can be amazing if it's done right.
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[[WMG:The sequel will [[SequelGoesForeign go global]].]]
We've only seen fairy tales/nursery rhymes/folk tales/public domain children's literature from Europe from the franchise, so this opens a lot more possibilities. We could see Aladdin (already alluded to with the magic carpet in Jack's possession), Mulan, Sun Wukong, yokai, and Anansi. Plus, they could go beyond the normal world and visit Wonderland (alluded to with the "Eat Me" cookie and "Drink Me" potion) and/or Oz.
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[[WMG: Death knew Puss would change.]]
* It was just a matter of getting him to properly respect the value of his life that was the trick. The whole unavoidable death, sadistic streak, etc was a show to get someone who clearly needed it to start respecting his life so he would die pointlessly. Granted he did enjoy it, the 'laugh in the face of death' boast was angering him, and was a bit annoyed the fun ended earlier then anticipated but getting Puss to respect death and the value of life was his actual goal the whole time. After all he's death he had to know exactly what would happen being a force of nature who has seen this sort of story play out since the dawn of time.
* It was just a matter of getting him to properly respect the value of his life that was the trick. The whole unavoidable death, sadistic streak, etc was a show to get someone who clearly needed it to start respecting his life so he would die pointlessly. Granted he did enjoy it, the 'laugh in the face of death' boast was angering him, and was a bit annoyed the fun ended earlier then anticipated but getting Puss to respect death and the value of life was his actual goal the whole time. After all he's death he had to know exactly what would happen being a force of nature who has seen this sort of story play out since the dawn of time.
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After seeing how happy Shrek, Fiona, and Donkey were, Puss decided to give marriage a try himself and proposed to Kitty, then invited his new friends from Far Far Away to Santa Coloma to see his marriage. If Kitty didn't turn up either, as she claims later in the film, she may not have gotten the chance to meet Puss' other friends yet.
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* After seeing how happy Shrek, Fiona, and Donkey were, Puss decided to give marriage a try himself and proposed to Kitty, then invited his new friends from Far Far Away to Santa Coloma to see his marriage. If Kitty didn't turn up either, as she claims later in the film, she may not have gotten the chance to meet Puss' other friends yet.
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She's aware of the fact that her love, Puss, has only one life. In order to prevent being left alone by his death as long as possible, she takes up a very active defense.
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[[WMG: Death would've left Puss alone if he'd stayed at Mamma Luna's]]
* Puss was completely miserable at the place but continued staying there (presumably for weeks or months given his beard) out of fear for his life. It's only once he leaves in an attempt to reclaim his lost lives that Death starts appearing again and does so several times over the course of a few days. Death was likely content with Puss being afraid and miserable for the rest of his days and only came back to make sure he didn't return to being "An arrogant legend who thought he was immortal".
* Puss was completely miserable at the place but continued staying there (presumably for weeks or months given his beard) out of fear for his life. It's only once he leaves in an attempt to reclaim his lost lives that Death starts appearing again and does so several times over the course of a few days. Death was likely content with Puss being afraid and miserable for the rest of his days and only came back to make sure he didn't return to being "An arrogant legend who thought he was immortal".
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** Another idea is an adaptation of ''Literature/GodfatherDeath'' as this depiction of Death already has some similarities to Death in that story.
** A third possibility is an adaptation of one of the various fairy tales where Death is trapped or tricked by a person, like in the fairy tale ''Aunt Misery.''
** A third possibility is an adaptation of one of the various fairy tales where Death is trapped or tricked by a person, like in the fairy tale ''Aunt Misery.''
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** The patrons probably fled because they're bears and Puss probably still thinks they're running a crime family.
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[[WMG: Puss will die for good in a HeroicSacrifice in Shrek 5.]]
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* The patrons flee from the family and Puss still refers to them as a crime family.
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[[WMG: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNZLedgN5sw This advertisement]] took place after the film]]
It's likely Puss decided to avoid going on dangerous adventures to keep his last life and decided to work in a safe job at a theater, meeting Goldilocks & The Bears who would have moved on from committing crime and do normal things as a family.
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It's why the Bears didn't immediately kill him when they saw Puss.
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It's likely Puss decided to avoid going on dangerous adventures to keep his last life and decided to work in a safe job at a theater, meeting Goldilocks & The Bears who would have moved on from committing crime and do normal things as a family.
It's why the Bears didn't immediately kill him when they saw Puss.
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It's likely Puss decided to avoid going on dangerous adventures to keep his last life and decided to work in a safe job at a theater, meeting Goldilocks & The Bears who would have moved on from committing crime and do normal things as a family.
It's why the Bears didn't immediately kill him when they saw Puss.
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[[WMG: In Shrek 5, there will be a minor reference to the Three Bears]]
While the family won't show up in-person in the film, we are going to get a follow-up to their plan to take over Jack's pie factory. We'd probably see in a kitchen or on a table a pie with a label like, "Just right pies." or some other reference to the Three Bears.
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After seeing how happy Shrek Shrek, Fiona, and Fiona Donkey were, Puss decided to give marriage a try himself and proposed to Kitty, then invited his new friends from Far Far Away to Santa Coloma to see his marriage. If Kitty didn't turn up either, as she claims later in the film, she may not have gotten the chance to meet Puss' other friends yet.
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[[WMG: Kitty will become a ViolentlyProtectiveGirlfriend after the events of the movie.]]
She's aware of the fact that her love, Puss, has only one life. In order to prevent being left alone by his death as long as possible, she takes up a very active defense.
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[[WMG:Shrek and the rest of the gang were guests at Puss' botched wedding with Kitty]]
After seeing how happy Shrek and Fiona were, Puss decided to give marriage a try himself and proposed to Kitty, then invited his new friends from Far Far Away to Santa Coloma to see his marriage. If Kitty didn't turn up either, as she claims later in the film, she may not have gotten the chance to meet Puss' other friends yet.
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** After taking over Horner's Pies, Goldi and the Bears are closer to each other than ever. But with their newfound fame and success, Goldi's biological parents suddenly show up wanting to reconnect with their long-lost daughter, creating a conflict where Goldi's tries to figure out whether they or the Bears are her "real" family.
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** ADayInTheLife (no pun intended) story showing him visiting different folks and how he interacts with them in their final moments. It could even have flashbacks showing his perspective of other death scenes in the ''Shrek'' movies (King Harold, Humpty, the villains, etc).
[[WMG: After being set up here, Death will return as a major supporting character in a future ''Shrek'' sequel]]
One of the previous villains (Farquaad or Fairy Godmother) will escape from him and try to return to the living, and Death needs the heroes' help to stop them.
[[WMG: After being set up here, Death will return as a major supporting character in a future ''Shrek'' sequel]]
One of the previous villains (Farquaad or Fairy Godmother) will escape from him and try to return to the living, and Death needs the heroes' help to stop them.
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[[WMG:Death personally went after Perrito's owners]]
* Given his [=MO=], Death would hunt down the pup's former owners and kill them ''Film/FinalDestination''-style.
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[[WMG:The wishing star wanted to help people through their problems rather them relying on magic]]
*The dark forest that surrounds the star changes by someone looking at the map reflecting their hearts desire and insecurities as well as leaving messages in the map, basically forcing the person holding the map to reflect upon themselves and see how to change for the better without magic. So, the wishing star knowing people would come after its wishing power grew the dark forest so it could help them grow without using up the wish.
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* The Three Bears we saw in this movie are actually relatives of the family in the first film. Lord Faarquad's men attacked the bears' homes and destroyed them. Maybe during that event, those bears of the first film sacrificed themselves to protect Goldie and Goldie ever since blamed herself for her aunt's death because she wasn't as capable as the bears.
* The Three Bears we saw in this movie are actually relatives of the family in the first film. Lord Faarquad's men attacked the bears' homes and destroyed them. Maybe during that event, those bears of the first film sacrificed themselves to protect Goldie and Goldie ever since blamed herself for her aunt's death because she wasn't as capable as the bears.
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* The Three Bears we saw in this movie are actually relatives of the family in the first film. LordFaarquad's Farquaad's men attacked the bears' homes and destroyed them. Maybe during that event, those bears of the first film sacrificed themselves to protect Goldie Goldi and Goldie Goldi ever since blamed herself for her aunt's death because she wasn't as capable as the bears.bears.
* Depending on the TimeSkip between this film and the main ''Shrek'' series, Goldi's Papa or Mama Bear might actually ''be'' the Baby Bear that lost his or her mother in the original film. So when starting their own family, they decided that becoming hardened criminals would better prepare their children to defend themselves from people like Farquaad and Jack Horner in the future.
* The Three Bears we saw in this movie are actually relatives of the family in the first film. Lord
* Depending on the TimeSkip between this film and the main ''Shrek'' series, Goldi's Papa or Mama Bear might actually ''be'' the Baby Bear that lost his or her mother in the original film. So when starting their own family, they decided that becoming hardened criminals would better prepare their children to defend themselves from people like Farquaad and Jack Horner in the future.
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[[WMG: There will be a Possible SequelHook to Puss In Boots 3]]
Since this sequel was announced, its a third will happen later in the future.
Since this sequel was announced, its a third will happen later in the future.
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