History WMG / Lisa

* Basically confirmed. There are moments where you control Buzzo as a kid or as an adult.

[[WMG: Female Joy Mutants are much stronger than their male counterparts.]]
From what we've seen of Joy Mutant Buddy and Sweetheart they seem to be some of the strongest mutants around. Sweetheart fatally wounds Buzzo, one of the most powerful men in Olathe, and Mutant Buddy is huge and literally rips Brad in half.

[[WMG: Female Joy Mutants Are Much Stronger Than Their Male Counterparts.]]
We can actually see that Buddy literally tore Joy Mutant Brad into pieces, and also that big mutant Sweetheart we see before meeting Yado has longer hair than other Joy Mutant, and it also fatally wounds Buzzo one of the strongest guys in Olathe. Sweetheart could also be Yado's wife, because who else calls someone "Sweetheart" besides a husband or lover.

Dr. Yado was never powerful enough to cause a global White Flash, but killing all women inside an enclosed area and then tricking the men into thinking this happened worldwide would be sufficient for his plan of his daughter sparking a war leaving him to conquer the area to work. Secretly, he erected a dome surrounding Olathe which simulates the sky and prevents anybody from entering or leaving and caused the Flash inside. That's why the day and night circle is no longer functioning properly since the Flash, because that's when the dome was placed. That's why Buzzo briefly mentions the existence of multiple women; they're the female population outside the doma which was never affected. That's why the sky is distorted at one point outside the Joy Lab. That's how Buddy survived; Yado took her outside the dome for the Flash. That's why Olathe is a WorldLimitedToThePlot and why noone entered or left it since the Flash. That's the reason for Jorgensen's ExactWords on "no other women in Olathe". That's why most plants died and Olathe turned into a desert, because the dome blocks out the natural light. That's why, in the SecretEnding of Joyful, Buzzo claims to have created Buddy's "little world". Buddy mistakenly thinks he's bluffing, but he literally did, and Buddy interrupted him from completely revealing the situation. The world outside Olathe is perfectly normal and Buddy's situation is a ShaggyDogStory.

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Mutant Brad’s absence in the Flowering ending of Joyful is thanks to Buddy giving him a MercyKill]].]]

In the first ending [[spoiler: Mutant Brad was torn in half by Mutant Buddy]]. The second ending instead [[spoiler: has Mutant Brad alive, docile and under Buddy’s control thanks to the trumpet she snagged from Yado]]. The third ending added in the remake, however, [[spoiler: lacks Mutant Brad entirely, with there being a second grave present underneath some flowers that isn’t there in the other endings]]. Considering that [[spoiler: Buddy’s TheReasonYouSuckSpeech in this ending path to Buzzo has her mention him being unable to rest thanks to his mutation]], it wouldn’t be a large jump in logic to assume [[spoiler: Buddy put Mutant Brad out of its misery and buried the body]].

Dr. Yado was never powerful enough to cause a global White Flash, but killing all women inside an enclosed area and then tricking the men into thinking this happened worldwide would be sufficient for his plan of his daughter sparking a war leaving him to conquer the area to work. Secretly, he erected a dome surrounding Olathe which simulates the sky and prevents anybody from entering or leaving and caused the Flash inside. That's why the day and night circle is no longer functioning properly since the Flash, because that's when the dome was placed. That's why Buzzo briefly mentions the existence of multiple women; they're the female population outside the doma which was never affected. That's why the sky is distorted at one point outside the Joy Lab. That's how Buddy survived; Yado took her outside the dome for the Flash. That's why Olathe is a WorldLimitedToThePlot and why noone entered or left it since the Flash. That's the reason for Jorgensen's ExactWords on "no other women in Olathe". That's why most plants died and Olathe turned into a desert, because the dome blocks out the natural light. That's why, [[spoiler: in the SecretEnding of Joyful, Buzzo claims to have created Buddy's "little world". Buddy mistakenly thinks he's bluffing, but he literally did, and Buddy interrupted him from completely revealing the situation]]. The world outside Olathe is perfectly normal and Buddy's situation is a ShaggyDogStory.

* Jossed. [[https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/14kkqw3/comment/jps2xbc/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 "There are no other women in Olathe."]]

[[WMG: Buddy is [[spoiler: Nancy, Dr. Yado's daughter.]] ]]
There must be a reason that Buddy is the only female left on the planet. Being the daughter of [[spoiler: Dr. Yado]] would make sense, as he was the one who created the great white flash. If he could kill all the females on earth, then he could also make one immune to the effects as well. He also wouldn't be dumb enough to not have a backup plan. He would let one female, [[spoiler: Nancy (or Buddy if this theory is correct)]] live, just in case the flash didn't work out as planned. We even find out that he's going to use [[spoiler: Nancy]] for some kind of plan in the future, most likely to be explored in the sequel.
** [[spoiler: '''Confirmed.''']]

In Lisa: The First, no mention of a sibling or reference to another person existing in Lisa's world is made. The game entirely revolves around Marty and herself, but according to Brad's hallucination, he took on the role of father for Lisa because of Marty's alcoholism. If Marty truly did force Brad to take over care of Lisa when she was born, Brad should've been a large feature in her dreamscape. However, if Brad fled from the home once Lisa could take care of her own basic needs, Lisa would most likely feel strong resentment toward him for leaving her to suffer Marty's abuse and for being able to leave the house when she couldn't. This would make her feel truly alone, and the resentment would not be the same as the outright hatred she had for Marty. As such, instead of killing versions of Brad in her dreamscape like she did with Tricky Rick, she would remove him entirely and focus only on Marty. In addition, their estrangement would contribute strongly to Brad's guilt over her death, as he is more likely to see her as his own child rather than a sister, and he would blame himself for all that happened to her and for her suicide. This also explains why [[spoiler: Buzzo]] would blame Brad for Lisa's death - he strongly implies that he and Lisa were close, so Lisa could have told him that Brad was her former father figure, and that he had since abandoned her.

* Semi-jossed; it's confirmed by one of the endings in the Painful that [[spoiler: Marty was definitely the main proponent of Lisa's abuse, but is heavily implied that Brad may have been forced by Marty to either assault Lisa or watch Marty do so in order to "become strong."]] Whatever the specific case may be, the only confirmation given is that Brad did not spearhead Lisa's abuse.

In Lisa the First, when Lisa is in the dirty world, she frequently sees splotches of red and yellow, flies and grime everywhere, and the the mutations with what look like tentacles for faces. They aren't hostile, however, and could simply be part of her psyche coping with her situation. Brad, however, sees the exact same images in Resort Island - the same mutants, the same grime everywhere, and even some of the same room decor as in the original game. Brad also sees [[spoiler: the happy Marty from the white world, with a long coiling neck sticking out of Marty's TV and hovering near Marty's couch.]] Just as in the original Lisa, these mutants never attack Brad. The only difference is that here, the mutants can occasionally be seen [[spoiler: in the sections where the Joy labs were.]] While it is unlikely, it's possible that Brad hallucinated the same images Lisa did, as the decor of the rooms on the resort look strikingly different than the labs, and seem closer to what Brad and Lisa's home looked like. Alternately...

[[WMG: Terry Hintz Used To Be a Cheerleader.]]

[[WMG: Brad's Encounter With His Father, Marty, On The Deserted Island Was a Hallucination and Didn't Actually Happen.]]

* Buddy does reference the encounter afterward, when Brad finds her on Rando's island after she was attacked by [[spoiler: Mr. Angoneli.]] This does not necessarily joss the theory, but it does call it into question.

* Buddy started Hallucinating during the Yado fight, and there was no indication that she ever stopped. In fact, as soon as "mutant" Buzzo dies, she transitions straight into the Join them/Leave them hallucination. Also, the same red organ screen appears while buzzo "mutates" that appeared in the Painful while [[spoiler: Brad was rapidly going insane from Joy overdose]] so it's likely that she killed a completely innocent and mortally wounded Buzzo in a Joy-induced fever dream and depending on your ending got a moment of clarity long enough to vaccinate herself right as she was about to mutate.

There's a throwaway line from Buzzo that basically says that Buddy would've been a great asset to the other women. [[spoiler: And if we assume that Yado has caused the White Flash to create a scenario where he could easily distribute Joy, thus creating addicts, along with releasing a random girl to the greater public to fight over, then who is to say that he didn't created a shelter for certain women? Maybe female soldiers, who are given a chemical to counteract the effects of the White Flash, or random women who happened to be related to his Joy creation. Maybe even genetics, since finger beams, fire balls, and other magical abilities are common occurance in the LISA series]]

The events of the entire series from Lisa: The First onward never actually happened. It's all taking place inside the head of a girl driven insane by her father's abuse. Everything, from her supposed mutilation and suicide, the destruction of nearly all women, Buddy's presence, Dr. Yago's plans, Brad and Buddy's actions as protagonists... all of it is part of Lisa's imaginary world she's buried herself in to cope with the abuse. She's probably sitting in an insane asylum somewhere, completely out of it.

The events of the entire series from Lisa: The First never actually happened. It's all taking place inside the head of a girl driven insane by her father's abuse. Everything, from her supposed mutilation and suicide, the destruction of nearly all women, Buddy's presence, Dr. Yago's plans, Brad and Buddy's actions as protagonists... all of it is part of Lisa's imaginary world she's buried herself in to cope with the abuse. She's probably sitting in an insane asylum somewhere, completely out of it.

Let me explain. Characters in Lisa can do stuff like throw fireballs or levitate because of genetics. What if Lisa herself was the catalyst for the Flash? The sheer trauma of her treatment by Marty caused her to become a FantasticNuke that wiped out all of the women in the world.

*** It's possible that she heard Buzzo talking about Lisa and it translated into the hallucination as the crazy joy-speak we see it as. It is also possible that his self-harm is to hurry his own death because Buddy is attacking him (if we assume he didn't actually muttate)

Carp never speaks in English, only in the native language of the Repulsive waste fish, which were a failed prototype of Joy mutant that refused to obey Yado and eventually formed their own stable civilization underground. This is further indicated by his unlock which requires you to feed him green paste, which the fish people eat.

** There are two things about Buzzo's transformation that confuse this theory. The first is that the reason Mutant Buzzo is peanuts compared to Human Buzzo isn't because he's weak - it's because he isn't attacking Buddy. He's attacking ''himself''. If you watch the dialogue, you'll see that he's actually biting and scratching at himself to kill himself faster. He does swing at Buddy occasionally, but mostly he is going for himself. The second thing is that, right before he transforms, he calls out for Lisa. Buddy has no idea who Lisa is, has never heard the name or been told about her by Brad or Buzzo, so she wouldn't be able to hallucinate that. It could be argued that it was some kind of spiritual connection type thing, and that's possible, but it doesn't make that much sense within the context of the game.

* Mutant Buzzo is weak compared to Human Buzzo. The joy is supposed to make you ten times stronger as a mutant than you were as a human. Human Buzzo was absolutely unstoppable so it makes no sense how Mutant Buzzo would be peanuts in comparison.

Given the nature of the scene that takes place, there's some question as to whether or not the encounter with Marty is actually real. It isn't referenced by Buddy in any other scene, save that one, and represents some of Brad's worst fears. It also represents a mirror of Brad's behavior, and his own quest for atonement. That Marty succeeded where Brad failed (being a good father, in any respect) would be its own profound, albeit internalized, wound.

We can actually see that Buddy literally tore Joy Mutant Brad into pieces, and also that big mutant Sweetheart we see before meeting Yado has longer hair than other Joy Mutant, and it also fatally wounds Buzzo one of the strongest guys in Olathe. Sweetheart could also be Yado's wife, because who else calls someone "Sweetheart" besides a husband or lover.