History WMG / KamenRiderRyuki

[[WMG: [[AxCrazy Tojo]] is lying about wanting to be a hero.]]

[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation He's just using Kagawa's teachings as an excuse to kill people left and right.]]

[[WMG: KamenRiderRyuki and KamenRiderDragonKnight are in the same universe]]

[[WMG: The ''Episode Final'' iteration of the Rider War takes place in [[KamenRiderAgito Agito's]] world.]]

* Well there always Alternate Realities.

** Again, not possible. Remember that aside from the fact that these shows take place seven years apart, Eubulon created his Riders ''sixty years'' before Dragon Knight begins. That would mean that ''Eubulon's'' Riders are the originals. If one wanted to place these in the same reality, one would possibly be able to make the case that Kanzaki somehow stumbled onto knowledge of the Decks, and was able to create replicas of them, though with a few more goodies of his own invention, and instead of setting up a portal to another planet across the galaxy linked to Earth by mirrors, he created a bastardized 'mirror world' where the Riders could battle. Though why he would let the mirror world devour Riders when it would be so much easier to just let them fight to their hearts content until one was left standing and then kick their ass with Odin, who could say? But in any case, in order for these two shows to exist in the same universe, ''Dragon Knight's'' Decks, and much of the backstory, have to happen '''''first''''' just because of the canon established in ''Dragon Knight''.

** Again, not possible. Remember that aside from the fact that these shows take place seven years apart, Eubulon created his Riders ''sixty years'' before Dragon Knight begins. That would mean that ''Eubulon's'' Riders are the originals. If one wanted to place these in the same reality, one would possibly be able to make the case that Kanzaki somehow stumbled onto knowledge of the Decks, and was able to create replicas of them, though with a few more goodies of his own invention, and instead of setting up a portal to another planet across the galaxy linked to Earth by mirrors, he created a bastardized 'mirror world' where the Riders could battle. Though why he would let the mirror world devour Riders when it would be so much easier to just let them fight to their hearts content until one was left standing and then kick their ass with Odin, who could say? But in any case, in order for these two shows to exist in the same universe, ''Dragon Knight's Decks, and much of the backstory, have to happen '''''first''''' just because of the canon established in ''Dragon Knight''.

** Again, not possible. Remember that aside from the fact that these shows take place seven years apart, Eubulon created his Riders ''sixty years'' before Dragon Knight begins. That would mean that ''Eubulon's'' Riders are the originals. If one wanted to place these in the same reality, one would possibly be able to make the case that Kanzaki somehow stumbled onto knowledge of the Decks, and was able to create replicas of them, though with a few more goodies of his own invention, and instead of setting up a portal to another planet across the galaxy linked to Earth by mirrors, he created a bastardized 'mirror world' where the Riders could battle. Though why he would let the mirror world devour Riders when it would be so much easier to just let them fight to their hearts content until one was left standing and then kick their ass with Odin, who could say? But in any case, in order for these two shows to exist in the same universe, ''Dragon Knight's Decks, and much of the backstory, have to happen ''''''first''''' just because of the canon established in ''Dragon Knight''.

* Shiro was discovering the Mirror World [[spoiler: How it was connected to Yui, who is considered God to the Ventarians.]]

** Completely illogical. If they close off the Mirror World, all they would do is seal te portals that link the two realities. Closing aworld off doesn't necessarily mean dstroying it.
** Easier explaination. The Riders systems are all Ventara counterparts to the Ryuki Riders. They were just used for completely different reasons and Xaviax is Shiro's counterpart.

* Recently debunked by the revelation of images and details floating round the net of Odin's Survive Mode (assuming you can read/translate Japanese). Odin was just basically the most powerful Rider by default because Kanzaki wanted to be sure Yui survived at any cost. Further implied by the fact that if this were the case, his ''Dragon Knight'' counterpart Wrath would have ben able to win the war in the first two episodes instead of being held in reserve till near the end of the series, and would not have died in the singular use of his Final Vent against Kit. (Also of note is that Kase flat out says that all the Riders have a Survive Mode card in DK. But shewas only able to secure two of them. What happened to the others remains a mystery to this day.)

** Not possible. The way the Mirror World acts is so dfferent from Ventara it isn't even ''funny''. Themajor difference being that the Mirror World will eventully consume any Rider if they stay in there long enough, but will devour a human in moments. Ventara on the other hand, is established as a actual world that can connect to ours via some kind of interdimensional warp accessed through reflecive surfaces.

** If that were the case, then the Ryuki Riders would have already battled Xaviax.

* Recently Jossed by the revelation of images and details floating round th net of Odin's Survive Mode. Od was just basically the most powerful Rider by default because Kanzaki wanted to be sure Yui survived at any cost. Further implied by the fact that if this were the case, his ''Dragon Knight'' counterpart Wrath would have ben able to win the war in the first two episodes instead ofbeing held in reserve till near the end of the series, and would not have died in the singular use of his Final Vent against Kit. (Also of note is that Kase flat out says that all the Riders have a Survive Mode card in DK. But shewas only able to secure two of them. What happened to the others remains a mystery to this day.)

But not in the way he thought. He was correct that Yui was the key to the Mirror world, but he failed to realize that her importance was from an emotional stand-point, as opposed to simply being [[InvertedTrope Inverse]] BarrierMaiden. We've seen that in both Episode Final, and the TV series that even when she dies, the mirror world does not close. More to the point, we know that Kanzaki can [[ResetButton REWIND TIME]] so if she dies too early, he could just try again. If fact, it's pretty much implied that that's exactly what happened a few times. The real key to preventing the deaths was simply being honest with her, as once she found out what exactly was going on, she very much rejected her brothers actions. As the only person he cares about, and the only person he'd likely listen too (although it did take a while) Shirou eventually caved and stopped the whole clusterfuck that was the Rider War. If Kagawa had gone in this direction instead of [[IDidWhatIHadToDo doing what he thought he had to do]] he might have actually succeeded, and would have had Shinji's support as well.

Shinji keeps getting involved in the Rider war, and influencing some of them (Ren and Kitaoka mainly) so he decided to kill him off. Unfortuanately, this just led to [[NiceJobFixingItVillain Shinji becoming]] [[SelfFufillingProphecy Ryuki anyway.]]

Shinji keeps getting involved in the Rider war, and influencing some of them (Ren and Kitaoka mainly) so he decided to kill him off. Unfortuanately, this just led to [[NiceJobFixiingItVillain Shinji becoming]] [[SelfFufillingProphecy Ryuki anyway.]]