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[[WMG: Ichika is a [[CloningBlues clone]] of Chifuyu]]

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[[WMG: Ichika is a [[CloningBlues clone]] clone of Chifuyu]]



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[[WMG: There is a CloningBlues cloning going on]]
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The reason why Ichika can pilot an I.S. is due to [[spoiler: the latest events of the [[LightNovel Light Novels]] (Ichika not having any photos before 1st grade elementary school, a younger version Chifuyu (Madoka Orimura)), and the fact that Chifuyu always wants Ichika to have photos all the time. So Chifuyu may not be Ichika's sibling, ''but he could be her son.'']]

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The reason why Ichika can pilot an I.S. is due to [[spoiler: the latest events of the [[LightNovel Light Novels]] {{Light Novel}}s (Ichika not having any photos before 1st grade elementary school, a younger version Chifuyu (Madoka Orimura)), and the fact that Chifuyu always wants Ichika to have photos all the time. So Chifuyu may not be Ichika's sibling, ''but he could be her son.'']]



* Ichika really doesn't want his harem. He likes all of the girls, but he will never be able to pick just one, lest the others attack him for it. If this was any other harem anime, this would be fine, but no, all the girls are armed to the teeth with their IS Suits, so Ichika will continue to act completely clueless so he doesn't get his ass beat down by the girls he ''didn't'' choose. Rin has already proven she's a bit {{Yandere}} for Ichika. People have said that only [[Manga/NegimaMagisterNegiMagi Negi]] and [[{{LightNovel/Kampfer}} Natsuru]] are this dense, but is he really? Or does he simply have a well-developed sense of self-preservation?

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* Ichika really doesn't want his harem. He likes all of the girls, but he will never be able to pick just one, lest the others attack him for it. If this was any other harem anime, this would be fine, but no, all the girls are armed to the teeth with their IS Suits, so Ichika will continue to act completely clueless so he doesn't get his ass beat down by the girls he ''didn't'' choose. Rin has already proven she's a bit {{Yandere}} for Ichika. People have said that only [[Manga/NegimaMagisterNegiMagi Negi]] and [[{{LightNovel/Kampfer}} [[Literature/{{Kampfer}} Natsuru]] are this dense, but is he really? Or does he simply have a well-developed sense of self-preservation?
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** Jossed -- [[spoiler:Chifuyu, Ichika and Madoka are {{Artificial Human}}s, and while M and Chifuyu are clones of each other, Ichika is not. All three are DesignerBabies, though]].
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* Ichika really doesn't want his harem. He likes all of the girls, but he will never be able to pick just one, lest the others attack him for it. If this was any other harem anime, this would be fine, but no, all the girls are armed to the teeth with their IS Suits, so Ichika will continue to act completely clueless so he doesn't get his ass beat down by the girls he ''didn't'' choose. Rin has already proven she's a bit {{Yandere}} for Ichika. People have said that only [[Manga/MahouSenseiNegima Negi]] and [[{{LightNovel/Kampfer}} Natsuru]] are this dense, but is he really? Or does he simply have a well-developed sense of self-preservation?

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* Ichika really doesn't want his harem. He likes all of the girls, but he will never be able to pick just one, lest the others attack him for it. If this was any other harem anime, this would be fine, but no, all the girls are armed to the teeth with their IS Suits, so Ichika will continue to act completely clueless so he doesn't get his ass beat down by the girls he ''didn't'' choose. Rin has already proven she's a bit {{Yandere}} for Ichika. People have said that only [[Manga/MahouSenseiNegima [[Manga/NegimaMagisterNegiMagi Negi]] and [[{{LightNovel/Kampfer}} Natsuru]] are this dense, but is he really? Or does he simply have a well-developed sense of self-preservation?
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[[WMG: Tabane is [[spoiler: The leader of Phantom Task, just like the leader of Celestial Being in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'' is Aeolia Schenberg.]]]]

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[[WMG: Tabane is [[spoiler: The the leader of Phantom Task, just like the leader of Celestial Being in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'' is Aeolia Schenberg.]]]]
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** Let's start with this one. What if he had found out the truth about his origins?

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** Let's start with this one. What if he had found out the truth about his origins?origins?

[[WMG: The IS is not the be-all, end-all weapon that it is purported to be in-series.]]
* Let's just say that the main reason why the nations that signed the Alaska Treaty in the first place, despite it basically being rammed down their throats, is not just what the IS brings to the table in and of itself. Sure, it's a serious game-changer, but at best it's a force multiplier when used properly, especially in conjunction with conventional forces (which we sadly don't see in canon). No, the reason why was that these signatory nations don't want to admit how vulnerable their nuclear arsenals were after the "White Knight" incident. There's no guarantee that Tabane wouldn't pull a repeat of such an incident on the nations that refuse to sign it.
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** Isn't it extremely likely that M/Madoka is a clone of Chifuyu created as her foil/antithesis for malicious purposes? This could also explain why she wants to kill Chifuyu so badly. Perhaps she was created with a gene modification that greatly accelerates the aging process at the expense of drastically reduced overall lifespan too, a la [[MetalGear Solid Snake]]? Her existence is a major sign of some sort of cloning muckery.

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** Isn't it extremely likely that M/Madoka is a clone of Chifuyu created as her foil/antithesis for malicious purposes? This could also explain why she wants to kill Chifuyu so badly. Perhaps she was created with a gene modification that greatly accelerates the aging process at the expense of drastically reduced overall lifespan too, a la [[MetalGear [[VideoGame/MetalGear Solid Snake]]? Her existence is a major sign of some sort of cloning muckery.
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[[WMG: The reason why is Ichika's the only male to pilot an IS is because it's part of an extremely elaborate plan that Tabane Shinonono set up and he's clueless about it]]
Well, for one thing, Tabane's genius puts Albert Einstein's to shame. She ''is'' far more intelligent than what she looks and behaves like. Plus, she mentions that the IS units being only pilotable by females was a side-effect that she apparently overlooked and it wasn't intentional. But how can Ichika pilot an IS if he's a guy? It's most likely that Tabane, with her vastly superior technology, actually went to great lengths to brainwash the whole world into believing that only females can pilot the IS's and that Ichika (whom she knows via Chifuyu) is the only male who can do so. This works so well that everyone believes that only females can pilot it, thus making it easier for her to find the token male who can pilot it and thus further her plans. What exactly her goals are remains to be seen, but whatever it is, its grandiosity and elaborateness would put the likes of Lelouch Lamperouge and Light Yagami to shame in the {{Magnificent Bastard}}ry department.

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[[WMG: The reason why is Ichika's the only male to pilot an IS is because it's part of an extremely elaborate plan that that Tabane Shinonono set up and he's clueless about it]]
Well, for one thing, Tabane's genius puts Albert Einstein's to shame. She ''is'' far more intelligent than what she looks and behaves like. Plus, she mentions that the IS units being only pilotable by females was a side-effect that she apparently overlooked and it wasn't intentional. But how can Ichika pilot an IS if he's a guy? It's most likely that Tabane, with her vastly superior technology, actually went to great lengths to brainwash by brainwashing the whole world into believing that only females can pilot the IS's and that Ichika (whom she knows via Chifuyu) is the only male who can do so. This works so well that everyone believes that only females can pilot it, thus making it easier for her to find the token male who can pilot it and thus further her plans. What exactly her goals are remains remains to be seen, but whatever it is, its grandiosity and elaborateness would put the likes of Lelouch Lamperouge and Light Yagami to shame in the {{Magnificent Bastard}}ry department.
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[[WMG: The reason why is Ichika's the only male to pilot an IS is because it's part of an extremely elaborate plan that Tabane Shinonono set up and he's clueless about it]]
Well, for one thing, Tabane's genius puts Albert Einstein's to shame. She ''is'' far more intelligent than what she looks and behaves like. Plus, she mentions that the IS units being only pilotable by females was a side-effect that she apparently overlooked. But how can Ichika pilot an IS if he's a guy? It's most likely that Tabane, with her vastly superior technology, actually went to great lengths to brainwash the whole world into believing that only females can pilot the IS's and that Ichika (whom she knows via Chifuyu) is the only male who can do so. This works so well that everyone believes that only females can pilot it, thus making it easier for her to find the token male who can pilot it and thus further her plans. What exactly her goals are remains to be seen, but whatever it is, its grandiosity and elaborateness would put the likes of Lelouch Lamperouge and Light Yagami to shame in the {{Magnificent Bastard}}ry department.

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[[WMG: The reason why is Ichika's the only male to pilot an IS is because it's part of an extremely elaborate plan that that Tabane Shinonono set up and he's clueless about it]]
Well, for one thing, Tabane's genius puts Albert Einstein's to shame. She ''is'' far more intelligent than what she looks and behaves like. Plus, she mentions that the IS units being only pilotable by females was a side-effect that she apparently overlooked.overlooked and it wasn't intentional. But how can Ichika pilot an IS if he's a guy? It's most likely that Tabane, with her vastly superior technology, actually went to great lengths to brainwash the whole world into believing that only females can pilot the IS's and that Ichika (whom she knows via Chifuyu) is the only male who can do so. This works so well that everyone believes that only females can pilot it, thus making it easier for her to find the token male who can pilot it and thus further her plans. What exactly her goals are remains remains to be seen, but whatever it is, its grandiosity and elaborateness would put the likes of Lelouch Lamperouge and Light Yagami to shame in the {{Magnificent Bastard}}ry department.
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[[WMG: The reason why is Ichika's the only male to pilot an IS is because it's part of an extremely elaborate plan Tabane Shinonono set up and he's clueless about it]]
Well, for one thing, Tabane's genius puts Albert Einstein's to shame. She ''is'' far more intelligent than what she looks and behaves like. Plus, she mentions that the IS units being only pilotable by females was a side-effect that she apparently overlooked. But how can Ichika pilot an IS if he's a guy? It's most likely that Tabane, with her vastly superior technology, actually went to great lengths to brainwash the whole world into believing that only females can pilot the IS's and that Ichika (whom she knows via Chifuyu) is the only male who can do so. This works so well that everyone believes that only females can pilot it, thus making it easier for her to find the token male who can pilot it and thus further her plans. What exactly her goals are remains to be seen, but whatever it is, its grandiosity and elaborateness would put the likes of Lelouch Lamperouge and Light Yagami to shame in the {{Magnificent Bastard}}ry department.

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[[WMG: The reason why is Ichika's the only male to pilot an IS is because it's part of an extremely elaborate plan that Tabane Shinonono set up and he's clueless about it]]
Well, for one thing, Tabane's genius puts Albert Einstein's to shame. She ''is'' far more intelligent than what she looks and behaves like. Plus, she mentions that the IS units being only pilotable by females was a side-effect that she apparently overlooked. But how can Ichika pilot an IS if he's a guy? It's most likely that Tabane, with her vastly superior technology, actually went to great lengths to brainwash the whole world into believing that only females can pilot the IS's and that Ichika (whom she knows via Chifuyu) is the only male who can do so. This works so well that everyone believes that only females can pilot it, thus making it easier for her to find the token male who can pilot it and thus further her plans. What exactly her goals are remains remains to be seen, but whatever it is, its grandiosity and elaborateness would put the likes of Lelouch Lamperouge and Light Yagami to shame in the {{Magnificent Bastard}}ry department.
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Well, for one thing, Tabane's genius puts Albert Einstein's to shame. She ''is'' far more intelligent than what she looks and behaves like. Plus, she mentions that the IS units being only pilotable by females was a side-effect that she apparently overlooked. But how can Ichika pilot an IS if he's a guy? It's most likely that Tabane, with her vastly superior technology, actually went to great lengths to brainwash the whole world into believing that only females can pilot the IS's and that Ichika (whom she knows via Chifuyu) is the only male who can do so. This works so well that everyone believes that only females can pilot it, thus making it easier for to find the token male who can pilot it and thus further her plans.

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Well, for one thing, Tabane's genius puts Albert Einstein's to shame. She ''is'' far more intelligent than what she looks and behaves like. Plus, she mentions that the IS units being only pilotable by females was a side-effect that she apparently overlooked. But how can Ichika pilot an IS if he's a guy? It's most likely that Tabane, with her vastly superior technology, actually went to great lengths to brainwash the whole world into believing that only females can pilot the IS's and that Ichika (whom she knows via Chifuyu) is the only male who can do so. This works so well that everyone believes that only females can pilot it, thus making it easier for her to find the token male who can pilot it and thus further her plans.
plans. What exactly her goals are remains to be seen, but whatever it is, its grandiosity and elaborateness would put the likes of Lelouch Lamperouge and Light Yagami to shame in the {{Magnificent Bastard}}ry department.
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[[WMG: The reason why is Ichika's the only male to pilot an IS is because it's part of an extremely elaborate plan Tabane Shinonono set up and he's clueless about it]]
Well, for one thing, Tabane's genius puts Albert Einstein's to shame. She ''is'' far more intelligent than what she looks and behaves like. Plus, she mentions that the IS units being only pilotable by females was a side-effect that she apparently overlooked. But how can Ichika pilot an IS if he's a guy? It's most likely that Tabane, with her vastly superior technology, actually went to great lengths to brainwash the whole world into believing that only females can pilot the IS's and that Ichika (whom she knows via Chifuyu) is the only male who can do so. This works so well that everyone believes that only females can pilot it, thus making it easier for to find the token male who can pilot it and thus further her plans.
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* Fan opinion polls have consistently shown that of the original 5 girls, Cecilia is the least popular. She is [[MediumAwareness aware]] of this. Hence in Season 2 Episode 10, she decided to make the most of [[ADayInTheLimelight her day in the limelight]] and eliminate as much of the competition as she could, and [[CrazyEnoughToWork it worked]], with only Lingyin and Kanzashi escaping her wrath, the former because she was GenreSavvy and the latter probably because Cecilia doesn't know enough about her to make a plan of attack. End result: she managed to hospitalize 3/5 of her competition and got to spend most of the night getting Ichika to feel her up under the guise of "cooking", AllAccordingToPlan. [[NoblewomansLaugh Ohohohohoho!]]

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* Fan opinion polls have consistently shown that of the original 5 girls, Cecilia is the least popular. She is [[MediumAwareness aware]] of this. Hence in Season 2 Episode 10, she decided to make the most of [[ADayInTheLimelight her day in the limelight]] and eliminate as much of the competition as she could, and [[CrazyEnoughToWork it worked]], with only Lingyin and Kanzashi escaping her wrath, the former because she was GenreSavvy and the latter probably because Cecilia doesn't know enough about her to make a plan of attack. End result: she managed to hospitalize 3/5 of her competition and got to spend most of the night getting Ichika to feel her up under the guise of "cooking", AllAccordingToPlan. [[NoblewomansLaugh Ohohohohoho!]]
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As of episode 12, Tabane states outright that Ichika can use any core, that it wasn't intentional on her part, and she has no idea how it happened. Here's my theory: Tabane used the most {{Badass}} person she knew, Chifuyu Orimura, as the model for the advanced PoweredArmor she was developing for the military. On crafting the core, she made a breakthrough that allows for all the "magic" (hammerspace, massive power reserves, etc) that the IS has, but it only worked when a living person wore it--Tabane tried it herself, and it worked fine, so she hammered out any errors and took it to her backers. That's where they found out that because Tabane's model was female, the cores ''only'' work for women, and no one could reverse engineer it enough for it to work with men. Maybe Tabane even tried building it from the ground up with a male model, but couldn't get it right (you really can't force genius you know). Which brings us to Ichika. His DNA is close enough to Chifuyu's that the core still works for him. I don't know how close, exactly, siblings usually are genetically--I know parents are 50% (obviously), but I'm not sure whether siblings are more or less. This also fits well with the "Ichika is Chifuyu's clone" theory. If the only difference is a couple chromosomes, then obviously he's close enough.

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As of episode 12, Tabane states outright that Ichika can use any core, that it wasn't intentional on her part, and she has no idea how it happened. Here's my theory: Tabane used the most {{Badass}} badass person she knew, Chifuyu Orimura, as the model for the advanced PoweredArmor she was developing for the military. On crafting the core, she made a breakthrough that allows for all the "magic" (hammerspace, massive power reserves, etc) that the IS has, but it only worked when a living person wore it--Tabane tried it herself, and it worked fine, so she hammered out any errors and took it to her backers. That's where they found out that because Tabane's model was female, the cores ''only'' work for women, and no one could reverse engineer it enough for it to work with men. Maybe Tabane even tried building it from the ground up with a male model, but couldn't get it right (you really can't force genius you know). Which brings us to Ichika. His DNA is close enough to Chifuyu's that the core still works for him. I don't know how close, exactly, siblings usually are genetically--I know parents are 50% (obviously), but I'm not sure whether siblings are more or less. This also fits well with the "Ichika is Chifuyu's clone" theory. If the only difference is a couple chromosomes, then obviously he's close enough.
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* In the anime, Charlotte notes that it's extremely strange for him to have the same special move as his sister. The main problem with this is timing; there is no evidence cloning is widespread, so it's unlikely Chifuyu would get a clone just because she wanted a younger brother. The most obvious motive, of course, is copying Chifuyu's ability with the IS (possibly as a test of ''exactly'' why males are incompatible). However, Houki remembers him from prior to the IS being unveiled. There are two main ways to reconcile this: 1. Tabane spent several years designing the IS and cloned him during that period, or 2. Mind-imprinting technology exists and was used on both of them to fabricate a conveniently unverifiable backstory

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* In the anime, Charlotte notes that it's extremely strange for him to have the same special move as his sister. The main problem with this is timing; there is no evidence cloning is widespread, so it's unlikely Chifuyu would get a clone just because she wanted a younger brother. The most obvious motive, of course, is copying Chifuyu's ability with the IS (possibly as a test of ''exactly'' why males are incompatible). However, Houki remembers him from prior to the IS being unveiled. There are two main ways to reconcile this: 1. Tabane spent several years designing the IS and cloned him during that period, or 2. Mind-imprinting technology exists and was used on both of them to fabricate a conveniently unverifiable backstory
backstory.
* Due to some spoilers from Volume 10 being revealed, this theory is starting to gain traction.

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