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** The bullet point's jossed.[[spoiler: In ''Valhalla'', Kratos gets the Blade of Olympus back.]]
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** Also, we never do learn what killed Faye.
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** [[spoiler:Ultimately, it seems Thrud will be the one who gets Mjolnir.]]
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[[spoiler:Odin or Thor will kidnap Atreus in the first hour of the game. Kratos will lose his powers again as is tradition. Kratos and Mimir will travel across the realms to find the boy. Atreus ages considerably faster (by Midgard standards) and learns magic in Asgard. He eventually escapes and travels back in time to blow the horn to prevent something horrible from happening, perhaps another time traveler was trying to kill Kratos and Atreus during "The Sickness". Freya will be the final boss and they'll reconcile after defeating her. Fimblewinter Fimbulwinter ends and Ragnarok properly begins.]]
* [[spoiler: While Kratos and Atreus do spend a good amount of the sequel apart (with Atreus becoming a playable charracter), they also work together for most of it, and the rest of the theory is jossed. The game starts after Fimbulwinter ends, Atreus goes to Asgard of his own free will, ages at a normal rate, Freya gives up her vendetta midway through, and Odin is the final boss.]]
* [[spoiler: While Kratos and Atreus do spend a good amount of the sequel apart (with Atreus becoming a playable charracter), they also work together for most of it, and the rest of the theory is jossed. The game starts after Fimbulwinter ends, Atreus goes to Asgard of his own free will, ages at a normal rate, Freya gives up her vendetta midway through, and Odin is the final boss.]]
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** He's still a ''kid'', guys.
* [[spoiler:Jossed. Kratos survives; that's Odin (the All-Father) Atreus is holding. Though there is the implication that if Kratos hadn't recognized his flaws and changed for the better, it ''would'' have been him.]]
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** [[spoiler: Double jossed. Doesn't happen in ''Ragnarok'' either.]]
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** Well, ''semi''-jossed. He doesn't get along with most Norse gods, but he befriends Freya [[spoiler:and ultimately tries to redeem Thor instead of fighting him, which probably ''would'' have led to a friendship if Odin hadn't been an asshole]].
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* [[spoiler: It's complicated. Odin wants to prevent destiny, but as it turns out the only way to actually do that is to change oneself for the better and stop making choices that will ultimately lead you to ruin. Kratos and Atreus get it (and though they do cause Ragnarok, both survive it), Odin doesn't.]]
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** [[spoiler: Given how the second game ends, that would require some ''impressive'' character derailment of Atreus.]]
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* [[spoiler: [[MetaphoricallyTrue Metaphorically confirmed]]. Kratos does visit Helheim (multiple times) and return to take part in Ragnarok, but he never goes there by ''dying''.]]
** Confirmed. No kids yet, though.
[[WMG: Atreus will be fully playable in the sequel.]]
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[[WMG: Atreus will be fully playable in the sequel.]]
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** Semi-confirmed. [[spoiler:Thor never becomes closer to Kratos nor helps him, but he choses to spare him after Kratos convinces him that he can be a better person for his daughter's sake and he realizes that his wife was right about Odin not caring for his family.]]
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** Semi-confirmed. [[spoiler:Thor never becomes closer to Kratos nor helps him, but he choses to spare him after Kratos convinces him that he can be a better person for his daughter's sake and he realizes that his wife was right about Odin not caring for his family. Unfortunately, Odin kills him before anything more can happen.]]
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** Jossed. [[spoiler:The axe resists against Mjolnir and stays with Kratos through all of the game, while Mjolnir stays with Thor.]]
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** Semi-confirmed. [[spoiler:Thor never becomes closer to Kratos nor helps him, but he choses to spare him after Kratos convinces him that he can be a better person for his daughter's sake and he realizes that his wife was right about Odin not caring for his family.]]
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** Confirmed. [[spoiler:Atreus gains control of shapeshifting abilities and can turn into a wolf as an analogue to his father's Spartan Rage, and gains new magical arrows as courtesy of the dwarves.]]
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** Semi-confirmed. [[spoiler:Atreus goes to journeys with Thor in Muspelheim and Niflheim to retrieve parts of Odin's mask, but he does so deliberately due to his plan, while Thor only does so because Odin ordered him to.]]
** Confirmed. Midgard has changed due to three years of Fimbulwinter and is covered by snow, with the Lake of Nine now being frozen, the locked realms can be visited, and new areas of the old ones are seen, such as Alfheim's desert and the regions of Nifleheim that haven't been affected by Ivaldi's curse.
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* Jossed. Thor's voice actor is Ryan Hurst, Odin's voice actor is Richard Schiff, and Loki's voice actor is [[spoiler: Sunny Suljic.]]
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Mimir explains that time travel apparently exists in Midgard as well with the World Serpent being said to have come from the future (which is also why he apparently recognizes Atreus). Going out from this, it's possible that Atreus himself returned from a future time to blow the horn and speak with Jormungandr for a particular reason. Reason for this guess would simply be the twist value of it.
** To speculate further, this will occur either after Kratos has died or during a sequence that sees Kratos in critical condition. After he speaks with Jormungandr, Atreus will follow Kratos and witness parts of Kratos' journey to cure Young Atreus[[spoiler:, possibly disguised as one of the deer that follow Kratos down the river]]. It will be a chance for Atreus (and the player) to remember Kratos subtle love for his son during on of the emotional low points of this prospective new game. Atreus' volatile emotional state during this sequence will be the cause of the inexplicable storm that rolls in while Kratos rows to Freya's forest, just as Young Atreus caused a storm with his rant against Sindri.
** To speculate further, this will occur either after Kratos has died or during a sequence that sees Kratos in critical condition. After he speaks with Jormungandr, Atreus will follow Kratos and witness parts of Kratos' journey to cure Young Atreus[[spoiler:, possibly disguised as one of the deer that follow Kratos down the river]]. It will be a chance for Atreus (and the player) to remember Kratos subtle love for his son during on of the emotional low points of this prospective new game. Atreus' volatile emotional state during this sequence will be the cause of the inexplicable storm that rolls in while Kratos rows to Freya's forest, just as Young Atreus caused a storm with his rant against Sindri.
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** To speculate further, this will occur either after Kratos has died or during a sequence that sees Kratos in critical condition. After he speaks with Jormungandr, Atreus will follow Kratos and witness parts of Kratos' journey to cure Young Atreus[[spoiler:, possibly disguised as one of the deer that follow Kratos down the river]]. It will be a chance for Atreus (and the player) to remember Kratos subtle love for his son duringon one of the emotional low points of this prospective new game. Atreus' volatile emotional state during this sequence will be the cause of the inexplicable storm that rolls in while Kratos rows to Freya's forest, just as Young Atreus caused a storm with his rant against Sindri.
** To speculate further, this will occur either after Kratos has died or during a sequence that sees Kratos in critical condition. After he speaks with Jormungandr, Atreus will follow Kratos and witness parts of Kratos' journey to cure Young Atreus[[spoiler:, possibly disguised as one of the deer that follow Kratos down the river]]. It will be a chance for Atreus (and the player) to remember Kratos subtle love for his son during
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[[WMG: Odin is intentionally speeding up to Ragnarök.]]
Mimir points out that he had Odin marry Faye to bring about peace. Odin instead use it as a chance to learn Vanir magic and turned against the giants once more. Furthermore, Mimir was trying everything to make sure Ragnarök was either averted or that Asgard would be as strong as it could be with enough allies to save as many people as possible. Also, [[spoiler:with the death of Baldur 100 years early being caused directly by Odin sending him to Kratos]] it's possible that Odin '''intended''' that to happen. Mimir assumes that Odin is just a monster, but maybe Odin has a bigger plan in mind or just wants a TakingYouWithMe scenario. It's hard to imagine that the wisest of all gods was just so paranoid that he unintentionally sped up doomsday and ruined his top advisor's credibility. The fact that [[spoiler:Magni and Baldur]] fail to resurrect after being killed when normally Aesir journey to Valhalla under their own power indicates something bigger at work here.
Mimir points out that he had Odin marry Faye to bring about peace. Odin instead use it as a chance to learn Vanir magic and turned against the giants once more. Furthermore, Mimir was trying everything to make sure Ragnarök was either averted or that Asgard would be as strong as it could be with enough allies to save as many people as possible. Also, [[spoiler:with the death of Baldur 100 years early being caused directly by Odin sending him to Kratos]] it's possible that Odin '''intended''' that to happen. Mimir assumes that Odin is just a monster, but maybe Odin has a bigger plan in mind or just wants a TakingYouWithMe scenario. It's hard to imagine that the wisest of all gods was just so paranoid that he unintentionally sped up doomsday and ruined his top advisor's credibility. The fact that [[spoiler:Magni and Baldur]] fail to resurrect after being killed when normally Aesir journey to Valhalla under their own power indicates something bigger at work here.
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[[spoiler:Odin or Thor will kidnap Atreus in the first hour of the game. Kratos will lose his powers again as is tradition. Kratos and Mimir will travel across the realms to find the boy. Atreus ages considerably faster (by Midgard standards) and learns magic in Asgard. He eventually escapes and travels back in time to blow the horn to prevent something horrible from happening, perhaps another time traveler was trying to kill Kratos and Atreus during "The Sickness". Freya will be the final boss and they'll reconcile after defeating her. Fimblewinter ends and Ragnarok properly begins.]]
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After [[spoiler:Baldur's death Freya swore an oath to destroy Kratos in every way she could imagine as revenge, but she didn't know what Kratos had done for the Valkiries.]] No matter how her opinion might change she can no longer change her mind because of that but knowing what happened between them Freya will be holding back considerably. [[spoiler: As their queen she will not be able to ignore the service Kratos did for the Vanier and being aware of her oath Kratos will tell Atreus to stay out accepting his death. Atreus will resist but eventually with explanation agree though his grief at the loss of his father will end up creating the World Serpant]] because god magic.
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Everything he did was in order to give man the knowledge to wage wars on a larger and even crueler scale, taking advantage of how HumansAreBastards. Ragnarok is his magnum opus of manipulation.
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[[WMG: Atreus will use magic to [[spoiler: reanimate and control the dead giants in Jotunheim (same thing Freya did with Thamur) and use them, along with them in his assault on Asgard.]]]]
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If what the final boss battle has shown, not only is what [[spoiler: Freya did to Thamur]] a foreshadowing of of Atreus's magical abilities, but also how vastly superior they will be to Freya's.
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[[WMG: There will be an utter TakeThat to Kratos's appearance in ''VideoGame/{{Fortnite}}'']]
Considering all the emotes that Fortnite has that people can make Kratos do, including the infamous Default Dance, they'll come across someone who's an imposter (and voiced by Christopher Judge, too) and have Kratos utterly murder the shit out of him or even have a choice of if Kratos, Atreus, or BOTH kill him.
Considering all the emotes that Fortnite has that people can make Kratos do, including the infamous Default Dance, they'll come across someone who's an imposter (and voiced by Christopher Judge, too) and have Kratos utterly murder the shit out of him or even have a choice of if Kratos, Atreus, or BOTH kill him.
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It would make sense in context depending on the story. Atreus going back in time to a point where Odin was still a jackass but not as much as he is now (maybe even when he drank from Mimir's Well of Knowledge) and using a type of precognition magic would show Odin a vision of his death. The resulting shock and horror from such a vision would spur Odin into becoming obsessed with changing his future and therefore setting down the path that Atreus laid out for him. The reason that Atreus would do this may be as part of his plan to take down the Aesir by sowing the seeds of hate and revenge in the people of all the realms and spurring them to fight with him against Asgard when Ragnarök arrives.
It would make sense in context depending on the story. Atreus going back in time to a point where Odin was still a jackass but not as much as he is now (maybe even when he drank from Mimir's Well of Knowledge) and using a type of precognition magic would show Odin a vision of his death. The resulting shock and horror from such a vision would spur Odin into becoming obsessed with changing his future and therefore setting down the path that Atreus laid out for him. The reason that Atreus would do this may be as part of his plan to take down the Aesir by sowing the seeds of hate and revenge in the people of all the realms and spurring them to fight with him against Asgard when Ragnarök arrives.
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Týr isn’t dead as many believe, he’s just locked up in Asgard. Odin is far too paranoid about Ragnarök to kill Týr, who is supposed to die by Garm during the final battle. He could also become an ally of Kratos in the next game.
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[[spoiler: She will start out the next game very much wanting revenge but over the course of the game see how Baldurs death was really her fault by setting up the self fulfilling prophecy in the first place. She will not like Kratos very much of course but hold no ill will towards Atreus and will help them out again. Especially after finding out that they freed the Valkyries from their torment.]]
[[spoiler: She will start out the next game very much wanting revenge but over the course of the game see how Baldurs death was really her fault by setting up the self fulfilling prophecy in the first place. She will not like Kratos very much of course but hold no ill will towards Atreus and will help them out again. Especially after finding out that they freed the Valkyries from their torment.]]
