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[[WMG: Any Time Lord can bi-generation, it's just that the Time Lords were trying to stop it from happening.]]

If you think about it, he is TheDreaded of the Doctor's many incarnations, to the point where Valeyard has been given a new moniker to hide his true identity, which would alert The Doctor if his true name was uttered. It would also make sense ''if'' Fourteenth Doctor eventually becomes Valeyard after many years have passed due to his rehab not working out, allowing the depression to consume him over time. Effectively, he would wait for the depression to takeover. Regardless, Valeyard taking on a hidden moniker would make sense.

If you think about it, he is TheDreaded of the Doctor's many incarnations, to the point where Valeyard has been given a new moniker to hide his true identity, which would alert The Doctor if his true name was uttered. It would also make sense ''if'' Fourteenth Doctor eventually becomes Valeyard after many years have passed due to his rehab not working out, allowing the depression to consume him over time. Effectively, he would wait for the depression to takeover. Regardless, Valeyard taking on a hidden moniker would make sense.

[[WMG: The Celestial Toymaker, [[Series/HowIMetYourMother Barney Stinson]], [[WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog Doctor Horrible]], [[WesternAnimation/StaticShock Johnny Morrow]], [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold The Music Meister]], [[Series/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents2017 Count Olaf]] and are all the same person.]]
[[LostInCharacter He's not sure which one he really is anymore.]] He doesn't know how old he is or what species he's from, if his super powers are real, [[MagicFromTechnology if they come from his inventions]] or if he's just that good a magician. It's possible all these characters are from Barney's playbook, or roles Count Olaf assumed as part of his schemes, maybe Johnny Morrow duplicated himself so many times they started taking on identities of their own or they could all be different games The Toymaker's playing with people, different civilian identities of Doctor Horrible, maybe it's all just an excuse to perform a bunch of elaborate musical numbers. It's equally likely none of them are real and the true identity of the person playing all these roles has been lost to time. He might have an actual doctorate but if so [[Series/DoogieHowserMD he got it years ago]] and hasn't really used it in a while, [[Series/AmericanHorrorStoryFreakShow or maybe he's just a magician with severe schizophrenia]], he could be [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague a boy who was horrifically muted by a nuclear bomb creating new realities for himself with his telepathic powers]] but most likely of all he's [[Film/HaroldAndKumarGoToWhitecastle a washed-up child actor, inventing tons of different characters while trying to meet women]].

If you think about it, he is TheDreaded of the Doctor's many incarnations, to the point where Valeyard has been given a new moniker to hide his true identity, which would alert The Doctor if his true name was uttered. It would also make sense ''if'' Fourteenth Doctor eventually becomes Valeyard after many years have passed due to his rehab not working out, allowing the depression to consume him over time. Effectively, he would wait for the depression to takeover. Regardless, Valeyard taking on a hidden moniker would make sense.

[[WMG: The Doctor will wind up catching a ride with a Zingo in an upcoming episode.]]

* The Trickster (Maybe The Toymaker is also a member of the Pantheon Of Chaos?)

* The Timeless Child's species

* The Kasaavin

Both the Master and the Toymaker showed great affinity for showing off, dancing and lip-syncing to music ("Rasputin" and "Spice Up Your Life", respectively), and the Toymaker has shown that linear time means nothing to them. The Toymaker and Master made it to the final, where Ru judged the Toymaker the winner. Which, considering the Toymaker is not allowed to cheat, meant that he had the Charisma, Uniqueness, Nerve and Talent to make it all the way through. Never one to be upstaged, the Master would've given it his all and despite his nature, would not have been able to backstab the other Queens (other than "throwing shade") because that would be "cheating" and the Toymaker would win. Or maybe he did cheat and that's why the Toymaker turned him into a gold tooth?

[[WMG: The game that the Toymaker played with the Master was actually an entire season of ''RuPaul's Drag Race UK'']]

Hence his vagueness about his past and private life, his penchant for "magic" tricks, the various weird personas he adopts in order to seduce women, his warped values and his incredible competitiveness. In 2000s New York he is simply playing a twisted game with the lives of the other characters. He even remarks at one point "I accept your challenge".

Hence his vagueness about his past and private life, his penchant for "magic" tricks, the various weird personas he adopts in order to seduce women, his warped values and his incredible competitiveness. In 2000s New York he is simply playing a twisted game with the lives of the other characters.

The Doctor is just pointing it out because Shirley happened to be there.

A possible explanation for the bi-generation could be that the Fourteenth Doctor was still in the first fifteen hours of his new incarnation, assuming an hour or so for "Liberation of the Daleks", a relatively late-night arrival on Earth to deal with the Meep, and he and Donna spending an hour or so on the ship before returning to Earth to face the Toymaker (a couple of days elapsed for the rest of the world, but there's nothing to indicate that an equivalent amount of time passed for the Doctor and Donna). Essentially, Fourteen's body still had residual regeneration energy much like when his tenth self re-grew his hand, so when the process was triggered again he was able to channel that energy to grow a new version of himself.

[[WMG: The Tardis has ALWAYS been wheelchair accessible.]]

** Could also be justified by the Toymaker's statement that his "Legions are coming." After all, the Toymaker is an OutsideContextProblem who does not conform to any of the rules of the Whoniverse. His Legions (or maybe "Toys") similarly don't need a sci-fi reason to exist, they just do.

* A possible explanation for the bi-generation could be that the Fourteenth Doctor was still in the first fifteen hours of his new incarnation, assuming an hour or so for "Liberation of the Daleks", a relatively late-night arrival on Earth to deal with the Meep, and he and Donna spending an hour or so on the ship before returning to Earth to face the Toymaker (a couple of days elapsed for the rest of the world, but there's nothing to indicate that an equivalent amount of time passed for the Doctor and Donna). Essentially, Fourteen's body still had residual regeneration energy much like when his tenth self re-grew his hand, so when the process was triggered again he was able to channel that energy to grow a new version of himself.

* So it's unlikely to come up again because it was under those odd circumstances.

* The actual Odin, not the Mire leader

When the two Doctors are talking in the TARDIS after the Toymaker's defeat, Fifteen observes that he's basically Fourteen having overcome the trauma of his last few lives, and even Donna refers to Fifteen as the future Doctor rather than the "other" Doctor. This seems to suggest that Fourteen will now just have a single life, and when he dies "again" Fifteen will somehow receive the full benefit of his memories, having already 'inherited' the emotional benefits to overcome Fourteen's trauma.

* A possible explanation for the bi-generation could be that the Fourteenth Doctor was still in the first fifteen hours of his new incarnation, assuming an hour or so for "Liberation of the Daleks", a relatively late-night arrival on Earth to deal with the Meep, and he and Donna spending an hour or so on the ship before returning to Earth to face the Toymaker. Essentially, his body still had residual regeneration energy, so when the process was triggered again he was able to channel that energy to grow a new version of himself.

When the two Doctors are talking in the TARDIS after the Toymaker's defeat, Fifteen observes that he's basically Fourteen having overcome the trauma of his last few lives, and even Donna refers to Fifteen as the future Doctor rather than the "other" Doctor. This seems to suggest that Fourteen will now just have a single life, and when he dies "again" Fifteen will basically receive the full benefit of his memories, having already 'inherited' the emotional benefits to overcome Fourteen's trauma.

* In "Solitaire" the Toymaker was already engaged in another game when he summoned the Eighth Doctor's TARDIS, so he essentially never played the Doctor on that occasion.