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* All Jossed.


[[WMG: The BigBad is of the same species as [[TwinPeaks BOB]].]]

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[[WMG: The BigBad is of the same species as [[TwinPeaks [[Series/TwinPeaks BOB]].]]


[[WMG: The [[TheSlenderManMythos Slender Man]] is also from the Red World, or in some other way connected to Kaysen/his dimension]]

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[[WMG: The [[TheSlenderManMythos [[Franchise/TheSlenderManMythos Slender Man]] is also from the Red World, or in some other way connected to Kaysen/his dimension]]


* Makes sense when you realize all the faults in practice York makes that a [[HeavyRain proper FBI agent]] wouldn't, such as York not realizing that he does in fact not have to deal with the crap the entire city gives him and yes he is entitled to all information on the murders because he's an agent of the federal government.

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* Makes sense when you realize all the faults in practice York makes that a [[HeavyRain [[VideoGame/HeavyRain proper FBI agent]] wouldn't, such as York not realizing that he does in fact not have to deal with the crap the entire city gives him and yes he is entitled to all information on the murders because he's an agent of the federal government.


[[WMG:Forrest Kaysen is [[spoiler:related to, or might even be the same species as [=Pennywise/=]{{IT}}]]]]

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[[WMG:Forrest Kaysen is [[spoiler:related to, or might even be the same species as [=Pennywise/=]{{IT}}]]]][=Pennywise/=]Literature/{{IT}}]]]]

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[[spoiler:An entity of the White Room, as Kaysen and Willie are entities of the Red World.]]
[[spoiler:The presence of Kaysen and the red tree sprouting from Zach's mother allowed him to intercept Zach when Kaysen tried to send him to the Red Room. Because he is really a nonhuman, supernatural entity inhabiting Zach's body, a sort of low-level precognition comes through in things like messages in his coffee and seeming leaps of illogic like the incident with the mug leading them to the waterfall. This is why he is able to converse with the real Zach and depart with Emily and the Goddesses at the end, which he wouldn't be able to do if he was an alternate personality.]]


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[[WMG: The wall-crawling female enemies are all [[spoiler: Kaysen's]] previous victims.]]

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[[WMG: The wall-crawling female enemies are all [[spoiler: Kaysen's]] Kaysen's previous victims.]]]]]]



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* [[spoiler: George isn't "fat," he's muscular. At least one profiling segment shows the modern Raincoat Killer wearing George's spiked armbands, and it's suggested that the one York faces off against in the dark world is the original killer (George's grandfather), with the possible exception of the very last encounters in the police station.]]




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* Er, no. [[spoiler: Kaysen is the one who "plants" the seeds. As for the substitutes, Carol and Thomas were the only ones called that, because it seems George intended to use Emily for the last "sacrifice" but had to use Carol when that became an impossibility.]]

[[WMG: The wall-crawling female enemies are all [[spoiler: Kaysen's]] previous victims.]]
The sexual connotation explains their nudity, plus this would make sense as to why they're all female compared to the mix of men and women among the regular enemies.


[[WMG: [[Red seeds grow into red trees if planted into someone the planter loves.]]

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[[WMG: [[Red Red seeds grow into red trees if planted into someone the planter loves.]]

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[[WMG: [[Red seeds grow into red trees if planted into someone the planter loves.]]
[[spoiler: George loved his mother (though in a love/hate kind of way), Zach/York's father was the one who planted the red seed in his wife, and George loved Emily. George's other murders were failures because he planted the seeds in the bodies of people that he thought might count but weren't loved enough by him (which is why they're called "substitutes").]]


[[WMG: [[Polly Oliver is the killer]]]]

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[[WMG: [[Polly [[spoiler: Polly Oliver is the killer]]]]
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Original Rain Coat Killer's name is Sergeant Timothy Woodman.]] ]]

When York first meets The General Lysander in the Town Hall meeting chapter he tells him to come by the junkyard and he will tell York all about the Raincoat Killer. However, as anyone who has completed all his sidequests know, he rambles on about a [[spoiler: "Crybaby" Sergeant Timothy who caused problems for the rest of his men but ultimately saved his life.]] York takes this as solving the mystery of why Lysander claims to be a General yet wears the patch of a Sergeant. But this troper believes that is just how Lysander CHOOSES to remember Timothy, as [[spoiler: Lysander and Timothy were probably with the military doing the purple gas experiment. Timothy tried to stop the military before they started, but probably got beat down and his gas mask torn off, leaving him somewhere in town. The last time Lysander sees Timothy, he is hulked out on Purple Gas cutting down anyone between him and the military at the clock tower. While the Raincoat killer failed to stop Kaysen(in fact its most likely Kaysen is the only thing that COULD stop The Raincoat Killer), he may have managed to butcher the soldiers present, sparing Lysander just as Harry claims the Raincoat Killer spared him.]] Harry knew about this but didn't tell York, leading York to assume something was wrong with the story.



[[WMG: [[Polly Oliver is the killer]]]]

This game's ending is so cliched, and it really makes no sense and does not match the given evidence. Polly is short, thin and hunchbacked like the killer; [[spoiler: George Woodman and Forrest Kaysen are tall, fat and have good posture.]] Polly is the friend of [[spoiler: Kaysen,]] she knows the mental problems of all the guys who are supposedly involved in the killings and can manipulate them. Polly was a former model whose looks were ravaged by age, thus she was jealous of the young, pretty girls who died, which was her motive. She was the owner, caretaker and customer service worker for a hotel, thus she probably knew a lot about things like engineering, restructuring and psychology, all of which were used by the killer. Her hearing was shitty, thus Francis was able to hide from her simply by covering his mouth. She was in tune with ghosts because she was virtually a ghost herself. She lied and manipulated Francis throughout the game: She only revealed her past after he did her a favor; she never mentioned her friendship with [[spoiler: Kaysen;] she acted like a decrepit, weak old bag but proved to be strong and fast when necessary. She was alive when [[spoiler: The military unleashed the fog.]]





* The little girl is [[spoiler: the granddaughter of Zach]], and the storyteller is [[spoiler: Zach himself.]] She treats her teddy bear (as seen in the trailer) as an imaginary friend [[spoiler: along the lines of York]], which prompts him to tell her the story. This one's quite common.

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* The little girl is [[spoiler: the granddaughter of Zach]], and the storyteller is [[spoiler: Zach himself.]] She treats her teddy bear (as seen in the trailer) as an imaginary friend [[spoiler: along the lines of York]], which prompts him to tell her the story. This one's quite common. common.
** Confirmed as of the final release.


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[[WMG:[[spoiler:The Red Room, White Room and Forest represent the Id, Superego and Ego, respectively.]]]]
The New Raincoat Killer [[spoiler:and Kaysen]] both have [=MOs=] clearly themed around depravity and vice, and [[spoiler:particularly in Kaysen's case, are very good at masquerading as innocent and blending in with society around them.]] Contrast [[spoiler:York, who first meets Zach in the White Room, and Harry, who's seen in there without his mask; both are the primary opposition to the villains, and both distance themselves from society rather than hiding themselves in it (Harry deliberately, York as a consequence of his odd behavior). For bonus points, Harry has an apparent obsession with penance.]] The people caught in the middle - [[spoiler:such as the Raincoat Killer's victims, and Thomas, who has feelings for both George and York and is simultaneously a perpetrator and a victim]] - end up in The Forest.

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* Similarly, the little girl is [[spoiler: York's granddaughter]] and the entire scene takes place in [[spoiler: the Woods of the Goddess]]. So naturally, the old man is [[spoiler: York]], and the [[spoiler: "grandma"]] the little girl mentions is [[spoiler: Emily]].

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