Follow TV Tropes

Following

History WMG / CriticalRoleCampaignThree

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Prism - Creator/AubreyPlaza

to:

* Prism - Creator/AubreyPlaza
Creator/JennaOrtega

Added: 318

Changed: 132

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* Double subverted when Aimee Carrero joins the main campaign... as Deni$e.




to:

[[WMG:What the crying of Dariax and Dorian really means]]
They both look like they've been through hell, so this can mean several [=sub-WMGs=]:
* Opal Is KilledOffForReal - something goes wrong with the Spider Queen deal, or maybe Aimee just realised she'd reached the end of her arc
* Fy'ra Rai is KilledOffForReal - she's fit the requirements for a SacrificialLion for a while

Added: 153

Changed: 89

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
new WMG



to:

[[WMG: Bor'Dor Dog'Son is a Border Collie sheepdog that got polymorphed into a humanoid]]
Pretty self-explanatory, really, the name, his description of himself as a shepherd, stating that his father raises sheepdogs, and his general demeanour.

Added: 57

Changed: 32

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* Deni$e - Creator/JenniferLopez
* Bor'Dor - Utkarsh Ambudkar
* Prism - Creator/AubreyPlaza

Added: 1055

Changed: 1

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added WMG to "Post-Premiere" Folder


or others where bamfed there as well and possible wern't as lucky in where they landed and finding help

to:

or others where bamfed there as well and possible wern't weren't as lucky in where they landed and finding help
help

[[WMG:The "Elemental Eidolons" Worshipped in the Demithore Valley are Allies of the Primordial Titans]]
In Episode 60, the players meet Elder Abaddina and learn about the "pagan" Loam and the Leaf religious practices of Hearthdell, which stand in direct contrast (and now open conflict) with worshippers of the Prime Deities. Abaddina describes how the ancient elemental spirits, or Eidolons, worshipped by the people of the Demithore Valley "have long hid from the unearned judgment of the gods, since the Founding." It's also implied that the Eidolons are aiding the residents of Hearthdell in their attack on the Dawnfather's Temple.\\
The Founding famously ended with Elemental Titans sealed away in corresponding elemental planes; but at some point before they were banished, they worked with the gods to seal away Predathos in Ruidus. If there were elemental spirits that escaped the fate of the Primordial Titans and managed to lay low all this time, they would definitely benefit from the release of Predathos and disappearance of the Prime Deities.

Added: 260

Changed: 130

Removed: 117

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[WMG: The Nightmare King knows Fearne's grandmother personally]]
Ira knew that Fearne was a Calloway. It's probably incorrect, but perhaps he dated Fearne's grandma once upon a time?

to:

[[WMG: The Nightmare King knows Fearne's grandmother personally]]
Ira knew that Fearne was a Calloway. It's probably incorrect, but perhaps he dated Fearne's grandma once upon a time?




to:

[[WMG: The Nightmare King knows Fearne's grandmother personally]]
Ira knew that Fearne was a Calloway. It's probably incorrect, but perhaps he dated Fearne's grandma once upon a time?
* Confirmed by both Ira and Nana Morri, they know each other mostly professionally, but also had a brief fling in the past that didn't work out
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
I'm going to edit this again for spelling errors later I just needed to get the idea down

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: The characters that were teleported to Illsyra after hearing Ludanius' voice are all Ruidus-born]]
The previous party had days of talking to people actively invested in trying to figure out the fall out of the disturbance to magic and the Apogee Soltice in Uthadurn, yet none of them mention sudden disapearances of people on the day of the event, none of them mention anyone they know of hearing the speach, or the sudden appearance of anyone in this manner other than the party we are following. With the second part of the group we have three people from diffrent places all with the same story. They somehow heard Ludinus and then got bamfed without knowing how. There has to be something tieing these characters together for this kind of coincidence, and the more obvious option is that they are all un-exhalted Ruidus-born like Ferne that got shunted to a point along the laylines when Luidinus tapped into all the Ruidus-born's connection however minor to Ruidus. Ferne and Imogen got shunted the other way because they were already to close to the nexus point.....
or others where bamfed there as well and possible wern't as lucky in where they landed and finding help
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added Information to WMG in "Post Premiere" Folder



to:

* Confirmed. In Episode 52 the party of Chetney, [=FCG=], Fearne, and Imogen were joined by the Cleric Deanna Leimert (played by Aabria Iyengar) and Fighter/Rogue/Cleric F.R.I.D.A. (played by Christian Navarro). In Episode 59 the party of Ashton, Laudna, and Orym were joined by Barbarian/Rogue Deni$e Bembachula (played by Aimee Carrero), Sorcerer Bor'Dor Dog'Son (played by Utkarsh Ambudkar), and Wizard Prism Grimpoppy (played by Emily Axford).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added Information to WMG in "Post-Premiere" and "Jossed" Folders



to:

* Per episode 58, notes recovered from Ludinus' former residence at the Gildhollow Tower hint that the corruption may have been tied to his early research into Ruidus. The notes describe the arcane crystal power well beneath the city, with theories on its origin (a gift from the Arch Heart or an arcane artifact from before the calamity) and ideas for how to surreptitiously harness its power. Ludinus suspected that it might be possible to focus that power output through "his design" (likely a prototype of the Malleus Key) during a solstice to establish a connection with the red moon. In Episode 55 it was confirmed that the Fall of Molaesmyr occurred during an Apogee Solstice. (It's possible that the gods took notice of Ludinus' first attempt at contacting Ruidus and actively moved to damage or corrupt the power source beneath Molaesmyr to put a stop to the ritual. If that's the case then it seems strange that they'd be caught flat-footed in the face of Ludinus' more recent work to unleash Predathos. It seems more likely that Ludinus' first attempt backfired in some way that caused the corruption of the power source and surrounding landscape.)






* Jossed. In Episode 17, Chetney tells Imogen it stands for "Recognize The Alpha." (Whether or not he's being truthful is another matter...)

to:

* Jossed. In Episode 17, Chetney tells Imogen it stands for "Recognize The Alpha." (Whether or not he's being truthful is another matter...)
) In Episode 58 it's implied that [=RTA=] originally stood for "Rexxentrum Toy Authority," a former employer of his.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: Molaesmyr's nightmarish devastation is the fault of the gods.]]
Because it's boring if everything that went wrong in the Calamity was the fault of those silly wizards who dared to have ideas above their station. The Prime Deities mean well for Exandria and its people, but they're not all Good-aligned, and powerful people frequently do shitty things when their power is threatened.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* Deanna - Creator/TiffanyHaddish
* FRIDA - Doug Jones (mocap), Creator/ChristianNavarro (voice)

Added: 102

Changed: 29

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* Otohan - Creator/ZoeSaldana
* Liliana Temult - Creator/SusanSarandon
* Oltgar - Creator/DavidHarbour
* Drixlich - Creator/JimParsons
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

** Going back, the Campaign 2 wrapup mentions that Devexian is traveling the world and restoring other Aeormatons, so this theory seems more and more likely.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: Ludinus's real motives boil down to petty spite]]
If he is to be believed, then he was actually alive during the Calamity. It's been established in ''Exandria Unlimited: Calamity'' that mortals by that point, especially in the great floating cities, had started to see themselves as equals to the gods, before the Calamity happened and slapped the arrogance right out of them. Ludinus's real goal isn't to free the world of the tyranny of uncaring gods. He's just trying to prove that he is in fact greater than the divine for the sake of his own wounded pride.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: After this campaign Critical Role will break away from Dungeons & Dragons, likely introducing their own RPG]]
Unlike other D&D Actual Plays, Critical Role not only doesn't suffer significant loss of viewers whenever they play a different system, but in fact whatever they play expriences rise in sales.

When Wizards of the Coast has been mirred in controversy over planed changes to Open Gaming License, which would give them outragerous amounts of control over d&d-related products done by third party companies, Critical Role released a statement that, while vague, seems to have implied they may consider possibility of leaving D&D.

Gods used in Exandria are directly based on those from other D&D settings and even now are a thing that requires most WritingAroundTrademarks. They are effectively the one thing that holds the Critical Role tied to the D&D brand and Wizards of the Coast. If that link would be severed, the gods would have to go.

Funny how we currently have an arc about releasing god-eating abomination and have just introduced character claiming gods aren't necessary in the first place.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Edited Grammar


* Confirmed in Episode 51. FCG is able to hook themselves up to the "Warder" aeormaton defeated by Imogen, Laudna, Chetney, Ashton, and Orym defeated in Episode 50. With the Warder's arcane power source fried, [=FCG=] was able to plug themselves in as a replacement battery/ pilot and maneuver the robot body and move the Tishtan Excavation site in disguise.

to:

* Confirmed in Episode 51. FCG is able to hook themselves up to the "Warder" aeormaton defeated by Imogen, Laudna, Chetney, Ashton, and Orym defeated in Episode 50. With the Warder's arcane power source fried, [=FCG=] was able to plug themselves in as a replacement battery/ pilot and to maneuver the robot body and move about the Tishtan Excavation site in disguise.

Added: 139

Changed: 97

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

[[WMG: In a reprise of the Trial of the Take arc, the two parties will be joined by guest stars]]
Laudna, Ashton, and Orym could be joined by the Crown Keepers, and FCG, Fearne, Chetney, and Imogen meet up with another group in Uthodurn.

Added: 5846

Changed: 133

Removed: 4448

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Sorted Theories from "Post-Premiere" to "Jossed" or "Confirmed" Folders, Removed Spoiler Tagging, Added WMG to "Post Premiere" Folder


[[WMG: Fresh Cut Grass Will Pilot a Giant Robot]]
If the Bell's Hells ever explore ruins from Aeor, they may stumble across either giant Aeormatons or machinery that only Fresh Cut Grass will be able to interact with due to his robotic nature.
* Confirmed in Episode 51. FCG is able to hook themselves up to the "Warder" aeormaton Imogen, Laudna, Chetney, Ashton, and Orym defeated in Episode 50 and control it.



[[WMG: The Party Will Find a Way to Visit Each Other's Dreams]]
A party with Imogen (a telepath and sufferer of narratively significant storm-related nightmares), Fresh Cut Grass (who can and has cast ''Detect Thoughts'' on multiple teammates to try and unlock things their mind may have buried), Ashton (who has dream-flashbacks to the night they nearly died in Hexum's manor, and has asked [=FCG=] and Imogen to help recover their memories of that night), Laudna (who says her nightmares are a source of inspiration, and who pays such close attention to Imogen's dreams), Fearne (who was tempted by Lolth in her dreams during the events of ''Exandria Unlimited''), and Orym (who watched nearly all the members of the Crown Keepers be targeted in their sleep by Lolth during ''Exandria Unlimited'') is primed and ready to start exploring each others' subconscious. D&D 5E offers the 5th level spell ''Dream'', which would allow them to visit and (and manipulate) each other's dreams directly. Given their interest in the subject, they might seek out someone who can cast the spell or an item that can replicate the spell's effect.
* Sam stated in Episode 35 that he homebrewed a spell for [=FCG=] called "Shared Dream," but hasn't yet had a chance to cast it. As [=FCG=] is a Level 7 Cleric the spell would have to be 3rd Level or lower in order for them to cast it. The spell likely wouldn't have some of the more powerful features that the Level 5 "Dream" spell does (like the plane-wide range of the spell, the ability to modify the dream environment, or to prevent the target from taking a long rest), but nonetheless it will be interesting to see the effects of the spell if/ when it is cast.
** [=FCG=] was able to cast the spell successfully in Episode 38 and joined Imogen in her dream of the red storm. They were able to see and feel what Imogen could see and feel of the storm, but [=FCG=] could not cast spells or alter the dream environment the way Imogen was able to do (i.e. by willing the storm to part momentarily).
--->"As you attempt to draw the energy of the spell forward and reach out to impart her with this capability, no effect takes hold. No spell here follows through, as you are a visitor in somebody else's vision."



[[WMG: Ruidus was formed by the gods in their taming of the primordials, and it's influence in this campaign is an attempt by at least one primordial at an "Age Of Calamity" style event that releases the other primordials.]]
The moon may be extant as a seal that isolates and separates a particular primordial ("Chaos"? "Storm"?), or may simply be an isolated reservoir of primordial energy, but the Ruidus dreams that Imogen has is an attempt by a primordial to influence events the same way the Betrayer Gods used prophetic dreams in the build-up to the Age Of Calamity. Keyleth's assassins have already been linked to killings involving the study of Ruidus-born, and this is an active (and ongoing) attempt at preventing mortals from understanding what is happening until it's too late. There are at least two primordials that as of current writing(Exandria:Calamity Ep.3) remain alive and sealed somewhere in Exandria, and other primordial beings have previously shown to still reside in planes adjacent to Exandria, although their status and agency regarding Exandria are still in doubt.
* As of [=EXU=]: Calamity Episode 4, the primordials Rau'shan and Ka'Mort have been terminated, with their essence scattered across several realms: "-Rau'shan and Ka'Mort, believing that they will rejoin the Betrayer Gods, are instead unmade, disenchanted, bound to a surging leyline and fired, diffused through as many realms as the Leywright could send them through. Two great Titans are destroyed... Gone from Exandria, those Primordials do not join the Betrayers." So while it would seem there are no living Primordials left on Exandria, the machinations of those sealed in other planes are not accounted for.
* Jossed. Ruidus was formed by the gods ''with the aid'' of Primordials to seal away Predathos.



[[WMG:The final confrontation betweeen Orym and [[spoiler:Dusk]]...]]
...is a CurbStompBattle that's actually due to bad rolls by [[spoiler:Erika Ishii]] but stated in-universe as Orym applying AwesomenessByAnalysis due to having fought them before.

to:

[[WMG:The final confrontation betweeen Orym and [[spoiler:Dusk]]...Dusk...]]
...is a CurbStompBattle that's actually due to bad rolls by [[spoiler:Erika Ishii]] Erika Ishii but stated in-universe as Orym applying AwesomenessByAnalysis due to having fought them before.



[[spoiler:As in, Dusk went through the same time dilation growth, in order to breed her to hunt the Calloways, meaning she might be younger than Fearne. All to set her up for a [[Film/BladeRunner "tears in the rain"]] ending.]]

to:

[[spoiler:As As in, Dusk went through the same time dilation growth, in order to breed her to hunt the Calloways, meaning she might be younger than Fearne. All to set her up for a [[Film/BladeRunner "tears in the rain"]] ending.]]
ending.



[[WMG: Campaign 3 will be a shorter capaign then the other 2]]

to:

[[WMG: Campaign 3 will be a shorter capaign campaign then the other 2]]







to:

[[WMG: The Split-Party Situation Will Be An Opportunity for Players to Reprise Past Characters]]
The Apogee Solstice saw player characters from Campaign 1 and Campaign 2 make an appearance (with Keyleth, Vaxildan, Beau, and Caleb all showing up to try and stop Da'leth's plans), all played by the DM. At the end of Episode 51, the activation of the Maleus Key appears to have teleported the Bells Hells across the face of Exandria in two groups. Fresh Cut Grass, Fearne, Chetney and Imogen found themselves in the Crystalsands Tundra of Wildemount, while Laudna, Ashton, and Orym wind up lost in an unknown location (a rocky landscape with sulphurous fumaroles and a view of the now-tethered red moon off in the distance). Logistically speaking, it will probably take a couple episodes to get all the members of Bells Hells back in one place. The next few episodes could be run with half the cast offscreen at a time as the split party tries to regroup... OR with the cast members reprising past characters to aid their current team. Team Wildemount could hypothetically encounter Beau and Caleb, while Team Lost might work with members of Vox Machina.



Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: Fresh Cut Grass Will Pilot a Giant Robot]]
If the Bell's Hells ever explore ruins from Aeor, they may stumble across either giant Aeormatons or machinery that only Fresh Cut Grass will be able to interact with due to his robotic nature.
* Confirmed in Episode 51. FCG is able to hook themselves up to the "Warder" aeormaton defeated by Imogen, Laudna, Chetney, Ashton, and Orym defeated in Episode 50. With the Warder's arcane power source fried, [=FCG=] was able to plug themselves in as a replacement battery/ pilot and maneuver the robot body and move the Tishtan Excavation site in disguise.

[[WMG: The Party Will Find a Way to Visit Each Other's Dreams]]
A party with Imogen (a telepath and sufferer of narratively significant storm-related nightmares), Fresh Cut Grass (who can and has cast ''Detect Thoughts'' on multiple teammates to try and unlock things their mind may have buried), Ashton (who has dream-flashbacks to the night they nearly died in Hexum's manor, and has asked [=FCG=] and Imogen to help recover their memories of that night), Laudna (who says her nightmares are a source of inspiration, and who pays such close attention to Imogen's dreams), Fearne (who was tempted by Lolth in her dreams during the events of ''Exandria Unlimited''), and Orym (who watched nearly all the members of the Crown Keepers be targeted in their sleep by Lolth during ''Exandria Unlimited'') is primed and ready to start exploring each others' subconscious. D&D 5E offers the 5th level spell ''Dream'', which would allow them to visit and (and manipulate) each other's dreams directly. Given their interest in the subject, they might seek out someone who can cast the spell or an item that can replicate the spell's effect.
* Sam stated in Episode 35 that he homebrewed a spell for [=FCG=] called "Shared Dream," but hasn't yet had a chance to cast it. As [=FCG=] is a Level 7 Cleric the spell would have to be 3rd Level or lower in order for them to cast it. The spell likely wouldn't have some of the more powerful features that the Level 5 "Dream" spell does (like the plane-wide range of the spell, the ability to modify the dream environment, or to prevent the target from taking a long rest), but nonetheless it will be interesting to see the effects of the spell if/ when it is cast.
** Confirmed -- [=FCG=] was able to cast the spell successfully in Episode 38 and joined Imogen in her dream of the red storm. They were able to see and feel what Imogen could see and feel of the storm, but [=FCG=] could not cast spells or alter the dream environment the way Imogen was able to do (i.e. by willing the storm to part momentarily). [[note]]"As you attempt to draw the energy of the spell forward and reach out to impart her with this capability, no effect takes hold. No spell here follows through, as you are a visitor in somebody else's vision."[[/note]] With later castings in Episodes 46, 48, and 49, [=FCG=] was able to bring other sleeping party members into Imogen's dreams.



Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: Ruidus was formed by the gods in their taming of the primordials, and it's influence in this campaign is an attempt by at least one primordial at an "Age Of Calamity" style event that releases the other primordials.]]
The moon may be extant as a seal that isolates and separates a particular primordial ("Chaos"? "Storm"?), or may simply be an isolated reservoir of primordial energy, but the Ruidus dreams that Imogen has is an attempt by a primordial to influence events the same way the Betrayer Gods used prophetic dreams in the build-up to the Age Of Calamity. Keyleth's assassins have already been linked to killings involving the study of Ruidus-born, and this is an active (and ongoing) attempt at preventing mortals from understanding what is happening until it's too late. There are at least two primordials that as of current writing(Exandria:Calamity Ep.3) remain alive and sealed somewhere in Exandria, and other primordial beings have previously shown to still reside in planes adjacent to Exandria, although their status and agency regarding Exandria are still in doubt.
* As of [=EXU=]: Calamity Episode 4, the primordials Rau'shan and Ka'Mort have been terminated, with their essence scattered across several realms: "-Rau'shan and Ka'Mort, believing that they will rejoin the Betrayer Gods, are instead unmade, disenchanted, bound to a surging leyline and fired, diffused through as many realms as the Leywright could send them through. Two great Titans are destroyed... Gone from Exandria, those Primordials do not join the Betrayers." So while it would seem there are no living Primordials left on Exandria, the machinations of those sealed in other planes are not accounted for.
* Jossed. Ruidus was formed by the gods ''with the aid'' of Primordials to seal away Predathos.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Edited WMG Under "Post Premiere Predictions" Folder



to:

* Confirmed in Episode 51. FCG is able to hook themselves up to the "Warder" aeormaton Imogen, Laudna, Chetney, Ashton, and Orym defeated in Episode 50 and control it.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Edited "Liliana Temult Knows Otohan Thull" WMG




to:

\n** Confirmed. Liliana is working with Thull at the Tishtan excavation site to assemble the prime Malleus Key. When Imogen contacted Lilliana in Episode 49, Liliana expressed implicit support for Thull and Da'leth's goals (releasing Predathos and destroying the gods).

Added: 87

Changed: 86

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[WMG: The God killer machine of Aeor was a Maleus Key, and Aeor new about Predathos]]

to:


[[WMG: The God killer machine of Aeor was a Maleus Key, and Aeor new knew about Predathos]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[WMG: The God killer machine of Aeor was a Maleus Key, and Aeor new about Predathos]]

to:

[WMG: [[WMG: The God killer machine of Aeor was a Maleus Key, and Aeor new about Predathos]]

Added: 416

Changed: 85

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

[WMG: The God killer machine of Aeor was a Maleus Key, and Aeor new about Predathos]]
Ludinus has heavily implied that he was alive for the Calamity, and is vocally against the gods and has a mysterious amount of knowledge of Predathos. How much of a stretch would it be to say that Aeor was going to use Predathos in the same way as Ludinus is now, and that he got the idea from them?
After all how were the gods sure that Aeor"s God killing machine would work unless it already had a known body count?

Added: 415

Changed: 85

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

[[WMG: The voice that has told Imogen to run in her dreams before wasn't her mother]]
It was one of the Railora pulling a AFormYouAreComfortableWith. Sumol told her that while most Railora were hostile others were friendly. Imogen's visions until this point could have been one of the friendly Railora trying to be helpful and protect her from whatever evil plan is going on the only way it knew how, by trying to warn her away and giving her visions of people who have died as part of the Ruidus plot

Added: 1379

Changed: 95

Removed: 1379

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Moved Two Theories from "Post-Premiere Predictions" to "Jossed" Folder, Added Information to Another Theory



to:

* Jossed. Ruidus was formed by the gods ''with the aid'' of Primordials to seal away Predathos.



[[WMG: One of the two missing gods is Sardior, god of Gem Dragons]]
Sardior is a plausible candidate for one of the two missing gods connected to Ruidus due to the fact that he's a god of psionics. His absence from the Exandria pantheon is also notable considering that the other major dragon gods, Bahamut and Tiamat, are both present. It's possible that he is imprisoned or at least present on Ruidus and is responsible for the increase in individuals with psychic powers such as Imogen.
* Jossed. In Episode 43, Bells Hells learn from Planerider Ryn and other members of the Grim Verity that the two "forgotten" gods are Ethedok "the Endless Shadow" and Vordo "the Fateshaper."



[[WMG: The two missing gods banished themselves to Ruidus]]
Everyone assumes that the rest of the pantheon must have banished them, but with how little we actually know about them there is no indication either way, especially when it is considered that they were likely separated from the rest pre-split between the Primes and the Betrayers.
* Jossed. In Episode 43, Bells Hells discover that the two missing gods were devoured by an entity from beyond the world of Exandria called "Predathos." The remaining gods collaborated with "elemental forces" to seal Predathos away in a chunk of Exandria they carved out and tried to banish, only for the prison to remain in Exandria's orbit as the moon Ruidus.


Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: One of the two missing gods is Sardior, god of Gem Dragons]]
Sardior is a plausible candidate for one of the two missing gods connected to Ruidus due to the fact that he's a god of psionics. His absence from the Exandria pantheon is also notable considering that the other major dragon gods, Bahamut and Tiamat, are both present. It's possible that he is imprisoned or at least present on Ruidus and is responsible for the increase in individuals with psychic powers such as Imogen.
* Jossed. In Episode 43, Bells Hells learn from Planerider Ryn and other members of the Grim Verity that the two "forgotten" gods are Ethedok "the Endless Shadow" and Vordo "the Fateshaper."

[[WMG: The two missing gods banished themselves to Ruidus]]
Everyone assumes that the rest of the pantheon must have banished them, but with how little we actually know about them there is no indication either way, especially when it is considered that they were likely separated from the rest pre-split between the Primes and the Betrayers.
* Jossed. In Episode 43, Bells Hells discover that the two missing gods were devoured by an entity from beyond the world of Exandria called "Predathos." The remaining gods collaborated with "elemental forces" to seal Predathos away in a chunk of Exandria they carved out and tried to banish, only for the prison to remain in Exandria's orbit as the moon Ruidus.

Added: 126

Changed: 62

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
I'm actually activily hoping this gets jossed, but it struck me as a possibility worth prepairing for



to:

[[WMG: Campaign 3 will be a shorter capaign then the other 2]]
The big do or die end of the world event that everything seems to be building to is only 2 weeks away in game as of episode 44

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Edited Spelling/ Grammar


* Imogen has messages her mother in Episodes 39, 40, and 42 to implore the woman to provide her with answers. On all occasions she's been rebuffed, with her mother telling her to "run." In Episode 43, Professor Ebenold Kai tells Imogen he believes Liliana turned her back on the Omen Archive and the Grim Verity to work with Thull's army, as "She grew frustrated with her inability to give the answers she sought and Otohan found her as did the Assembly. And I think her... her personal need for answers overrode her judgment."


to:

* Imogen has messages messaged her mother in Episodes 39, 40, and 42 to implore the woman to provide her with answers.ask for information. On all occasions she's been rebuffed, with her mother telling her to "run." In Episode 43, Professor Ebenold Kai tells Imogen he believes Liliana turned her back on the Omen Archive and the Grim Verity to work with Thull's army, as "She grew frustrated with her inability to give the answers she sought and Otohan found her as did the Assembly. And I think her... her personal need for answers overrode her judgment."

Added: 1987

Changed: 527

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Edited and Added Theories Under "Post-Premiere Predictions"




to:

\n* Imogen has messages her mother in Episodes 39, 40, and 42 to implore the woman to provide her with answers. On all occasions she's been rebuffed, with her mother telling her to "run." In Episode 43, Professor Ebenold Kai tells Imogen he believes Liliana turned her back on the Omen Archive and the Grim Verity to work with Thull's army, as "She grew frustrated with her inability to give the answers she sought and Otohan found her as did the Assembly. And I think her... her personal need for answers overrode her judgment."


[[WMG:Otohan Thull is Trying to Release Predathos to Replicate the Raven Queen's Ascension]]
* Predathos was able to resist divine magic and devour two gods (Ethedok and Vordo) before it was sealed away in Ruidus.
* The gods of Exandria were only able to seal Predathos away by working with the Primordial Titans "to carve a prison from Exandria itself." The Primordial Titans themselves were later killed or sealed away.
* The domains of the two devoured gods (winter, darkness, and fate) were "disseminated amongst the existing gods" after their disappearance. The Raven Queen is currently the goddess of fate and winter.
* According to Ebenold Kai, Thull was an outspoken devotee of the Matron of Ravens/ Duskmaven during her time as a soldier in the Apex War.
--> "-they were once an extremely pious entity, when they were at the height of their time as a soldier. They continuously spoke as they walked in the path of the Matron, the Duskmaven. Then when the war finished, from what we've come to try and learn, it seems she may have lost her faith."
* Paragon's Call still uses a "golden buzzard skull" as their emblem/ part of their regalia.
* EXU:Calamity revealed that the Raven Queen's ascension took place during an Apogee Solstice. She challenged the existing god of death and took his place in the pantheon. During the Apogee Solstice that directly followed her Ascension (about 120 years later), Vespin Chloras would attempt to repeat the Ritual of Seeding/ Rite of Ascension and dethrone a Betrayer God. His actions led (indirectly) to the Calamity and the (brief) release of Primordial Titans Rau'shan and Ka'Mort.
* Bells Hells are anticipating and Apogee Solstice inside of a few weeks.
Otohan Thull is trying to release Predathos so that it can devour one or more of the gods, leaving a vacancy in the pantheon that she can ascend to fill. That, or she's found a way to take the place of a Primordial and wants Predathos to devour the gods so that there will be no competition.

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Formatting Correction


-->Jossed. In Episode 43, Bells Hells learn from Planerider Ryn and other members of the Grim Verity that the two "forgotten" gods are Ethedok "the Endless Shadow" and Vordo "the Fateshaper."

to:

-->Jossed.* Jossed. In Episode 43, Bells Hells learn from Planerider Ryn and other members of the Grim Verity that the two "forgotten" gods are Ethedok "the Endless Shadow" and Vordo "the Fateshaper."



-->Jossed. In Episode 43, Bells Hells discover that the two missing gods were devoured by an entity from beyond the world of Exandria called "Predathos." The remaining gods collaborated with "elemental forces" to seal Predathos away in a chunk of Exandria they carved out and tried to banish, only for the prison to remain in Exandria's orbit as the moon Ruidus.

to:

-->Jossed.* Jossed. In Episode 43, Bells Hells discover that the two missing gods were devoured by an entity from beyond the world of Exandria called "Predathos." The remaining gods collaborated with "elemental forces" to seal Predathos away in a chunk of Exandria they carved out and tried to banish, only for the prison to remain in Exandria's orbit as the moon Ruidus.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added "Jossed" Tags to "Post-Premiere" Theories



to:

-->Jossed. In Episode 43, Bells Hells learn from Planerider Ryn and other members of the Grim Verity that the two "forgotten" gods are Ethedok "the Endless Shadow" and Vordo "the Fateshaper."



Everyone assumes that the rest of the pantheon must have banished them, but with how little we actually know about them there is no indication either way, especially when it is considered that they were likely separated from the rest pre-split between the Primes and the Betrayers

to:

Everyone assumes that the rest of the pantheon must have banished them, but with how little we actually know about them there is no indication either way, especially when it is considered that they were likely separated from the rest pre-split between the Primes and the Betrayers
Betrayers.
-->Jossed. In Episode 43, Bells Hells discover that the two missing gods were devoured by an entity from beyond the world of Exandria called "Predathos." The remaining gods collaborated with "elemental forces" to seal Predathos away in a chunk of Exandria they carved out and tried to banish, only for the prison to remain in Exandria's orbit as the moon Ruidus.

Top