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[[WMG: Wild Stallyns improved the future in a ForWantOfANail sort of way.]]

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[[WMG: Wild Stallyns improved the future in a ForWantOfANail for-want-of-a-nail sort of way.]]
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** Especially wouldnt work as Napoleon said he'd use a waterslide...
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** Ed Solomon, one of the producers, stated that they tried to get him for the third film (as it would have been his house that Future Bill and Ted would use to try to con present Bill and Ted instead of Dave Grohl). Eddie's agents stated he was unavailable and didn't give a reason why. It wasn't until after his passing that they learned about his long time struggle with cancer.

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* Certainly likely in the case of Joan of Arc, who we're introduced to as she's praying and when they appear, seem to treat Bill and Ted as if they're angels about to take her on a trip to heaven, in the manner of some kind of vision or spiritual ecstasy.


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[[WMG: The people of TheFuture are 20th century pop-culture cargo cultists]]
The Wild Stallyns being the catalyst for this, having a rock band as the basis for your society might not mean it stops there. Why have your time machine look like a phone booth? Perhaps because it was very, very loosely based on the police-box exterior of the [=TARDIS=] from ''Series/DoctorWho'', which resembles one.
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[[It Just Bugs Me]] Why did everyone apart from Genghis and Billy get arrested? Beethoven playing electric keyboards: you'd think the salesman would have been delighted with the crowd that had gathered and used it to his advantage. Joan of Arc taking over the aerobics class: why did mall security hand her over to the city police when this is something they typically handle?
Abraham Lincoln: when the photographer thinks he's wearing the studio's costume and Abe replies that he is the real Abe, is it so hard for the photographer, or the cops when they get involved, to check the inventory and confirm that Abe is wearing his own clothes? Sigmund and Socrates weren't even doing anything wrong but they end up running from the cops, who seem to have something against people whom they think are crazy historical cosplayers (viz. the elevator scene).
° When Captain Logan finds his son's tape recorder, why does he immediately assume it has something to do with his detainees instead of his son and his friend pulling a dumb prank, like they must have done previously?

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° Except the assignment wasn't just given to them, it was a class assignment. I think that the topic was chosen specifically in order to allow B&T to fulfil with the help of the time machine. How successful would they have been if the assignment was your standard "tell about this historical person or event"?




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[[It Just Bugs Me]] Why did everyone apart from Genghis and Billy get arrested? Beethoven playing electric keyboards: you'd think the salesman would have been delighted with the crowd that had gathered and used it to his advantage. Joan of Arc taking over the aerobics class: why did mall security hand her over to the city police when this is something they typically handle?
Abraham Lincoln: when the photographer thinks he's wearing the studio's costume and Abe replies that he is the real Abe, is it so hard for the photographer, or the cops when they get involved, to check the inventory and confirm that Abe is wearing his own clothes? Sigmund and Socrates weren't even doing anything wrong but they end up running from the cops, who seem to have something against people whom they think are crazy historical cosplayers (viz. the elevator scene).
° When Captain Logan finds his son's tape recorder, why does he immediately assume it has something to do with his detainees instead of his son and his friend pulling a dumb prank, like they must have done previously?

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Moving it to the Face The Music WMG page


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Future people in ''Face The Music'' get the years the previous two movies were set wrong. The Rufus hologram said he first met Bill and Ted in 1989 when the first movie was set in '88. And the Great Leader says Bill and Ted's concert happened 25 years ago implying ''Bogus Journey'' was set in 1995 when Ted's comment about the princesses being in the 20th century for five years would set it in 1993.
The newspapers and magazines that appear in the end credits of ''Bogus Journey'' are alternatively dated 1991 and 2691. The 2691 issues are likely future reprints but maybe the 1991 issues are also reprints by future people who aren't used to the Gregorian calendar.
The year Bill and Ted unites the world could become Year 1 or 0 or else Earth now uses some UniversalUniverseTime alongside other planets.

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[[WMG:Future Earth uses an AlternativeCalendar]]
Future people in ''Face The Music'' get the years the previous two movies were set wrong. The Rufus hologram said he first met Bill and Ted in 1989 when the first movie was set in '88. And the Great Leader says Bill and Ted's concert happened 25 years ago implying ''Bogus Journey'' was set in 1995 when Ted's comment about the princesses being in the 20th century for five years would set it in 1993.
The newspapers and magazines that appear in the end credits of ''Bogus Journey'' are alternatively dated 1991 and 2691. The 2691 issues are likely future reprints but maybe the 1991 issues are also reprints by future people who aren't used to the Gregorian calendar.
The year Bill and Ted unites the world could become Year 1 or 0 or else Earth now uses some UniversalUniverseTime alongside other planets.
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[[WMG:Future Earth uses and AlternativeCalendar]]
Future people in ''Face The Music'' get the years the previous two movies were set wrong. The Rufus hologram said he first met Bill and Ted in 1989 when the first movie was set in '88. And the Great Leader says Bill and Ted's concert happened 25 years ago implying ''Bogus Journey'' was set in 1995 when Ted's comment about the princesses being in the 20th century for five years would set it in 1993.
The newspapers and magazines that appear in the end credits of ''Bogus Journey'' are alternatively dated 1991 and 2691. The 2691 issues are likely future reprints but maybe the 1991 issues are also reprints by future people who aren't used to the Gregorian calendar.
The year Bill and Ted unites the world could become Year 1 or 0 or else Earth now uses some UniversalUniverseTime alongside other planets.

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Many people have wondered how the time machine used in the first film tend to drop them near historical figures in the past when all the phone booth's controls consists of entering in numbers to locations. Considering the phone book probably has individual years, the location would be considered in the coordinates. But close proximity to a prominent historical figure may not be considered in the coordinates (if it weren't true, then Bill and Ted wouldn't have been able to land at any random time, but major historical events to see such figures. For example, Bill and Ted would have been more than likely to pick up Abraham Lincoln either before, during or after his famous Gettysburg address, or before his trip to the Ford Theater where he would be shot, because those are significant moments in time). This troper suspects that the phone booths have technology that reads the user's minds on what their desired intent is. For example, Bill and Ted head back to the wild west to pick up someone, yet they happen to land next to a historical figure. In this case, Billy the Kid. Now, they couldn't know they would end up at a place where Billy the Kid was and it seems rather serendipitous that Billy shows up. However, they enter in the coordinates to the Wild West. At that time, Billy the Kid had become a pop culture icon due to the film The Young Guns the year before, and Bill and Ted would have had him on their mind, be it from history or from the film. So, when the coordinates were entered, the time machine scanned their heads and surmised they wanted to be in close proximity to a famous cowboy, leading it to pinpoint Billy The Kid's location in the past and dropped them in close to him. This would explain why when they dropped into Austria near Sigmund Freud, as they may have subconsciously remembered him from their history class.

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Many people have wondered how the time machine used in the first film tend to drop them near historical figures in the past when all the phone booth's controls consists of entering in numbers to locations. Considering the phone book probably has individual years, the location would be considered in the coordinates. But close proximity to a prominent historical figure may not be considered in the coordinates (if it weren't true, then Bill and Ted wouldn't have been able to land at any random time, but major historical events to see such figures. For example, Bill and Ted would have been more than likely to pick up Abraham Lincoln either before, during or after his famous Gettysburg address, or before his trip to the Ford Theater where he would be shot, because those are significant moments in time).

This troper suspects that the phone booths have technology that reads the user's minds on what their desired intent is. For example, Bill and Ted head back to the wild west to pick up someone, yet they happen to land next to a historical figure. In this case, Billy the Kid. Now, they couldn't know they would end up at a place where Billy the Kid was and it seems rather serendipitous that Billy shows up. However, they enter in the coordinates to the Wild West. At that time, Billy the Kid had become a pop culture icon due to the film The Young Guns the year before, and Bill and Ted would have had him on their mind, be it from history or from the film. So, when the coordinates were entered, the time machine scanned their heads and surmised they wanted to be in close proximity to a famous cowboy, leading it to pinpoint Billy The Kid's location in the past and dropped them in close to him. This would explain why when they dropped into Austria near Sigmund Freud, as they may have subconsciously remembered him from their history class.

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Many people have wondered how the time machine used in the first film tend to drop them near historical figures in the past when all the phone booth's controls consists of entering in numbers to locations. Considering the phone book probably has individual years, the location would be considered in the coordinates. But close proximity to a prominent historical figure may not be considered in the coordinates (if it weren't true, then Bill and Ted wouldn't have been able to land at any random time, but major historical events to see such figures. For example, Bill and Ted would have been more than likely to pick up Abraham Lincoln either before, during or after his famous Gettysburg address, or before his trip to the Ford Theater where he would be shot, because those are significant moments in time). This troper suspects that the phone booths have technology that reads the user's minds on what their desired intent is. For example, Bill and Ted head back to the wild west to pick up someone, yet they happen to land next to a historical figure. In this case, Billy the Kid. Now, they couldn't know they would end up at a place where Billy the Kid was and it seems rather serendipitous that Billy shows up. However, they enter in the coordinates to the Wild West. At that time, Billy the Kid had become a pop culture icon due to the film The Young Guns the year before, and Bill and Ted would have had him on their mind, be it from history or from the film. So, when the coordinates were entered, the time machine scanned their heads and surmised they wanted to be in close proximity to a famous cowboy, leading it to pinpoint Billy The Kid's location in the past and dropped them in close to him. This would explain why when they dropped into Austria near Sigmund Freud, as they may have subconsciously remembered him from their history class. And, it also accounts for how they ended up in the future in the very chamber where the future people were waiting for them: they were desperate to get the hell out of medieval times that the time machine took it to it's default (the first) location it was formed when Bill accidentally typed in coordinates to the future when trying to get them out of there. So, the time machine's landing in proximity to historical figures isn't just random. This would also explain why the time machine is able to drop Bill and Ted in close proximity to their future selves in Face The Music (as they clearly didn't know where they would be in the 2, 5 and far future, but the booth clearly dropped them in, but the machine would know they wanted to see their future selves, so it would land them in close proximity to themselves after reading their minds). So, the phone booth time machine not only takes in time/space coordinates, but it scans the users' brain(s) for where they want to end up.

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Many people have wondered how the time machine used in the first film tend to drop them near historical figures in the past when all the phone booth's controls consists of entering in numbers to locations. Considering the phone book probably has individual years, the location would be considered in the coordinates. But close proximity to a prominent historical figure may not be considered in the coordinates (if it weren't true, then Bill and Ted wouldn't have been able to land at any random time, but major historical events to see such figures. For example, Bill and Ted would have been more than likely to pick up Abraham Lincoln either before, during or after his famous Gettysburg address, or before his trip to the Ford Theater where he would be shot, because those are significant moments in time). This troper suspects that the phone booths have technology that reads the user's minds on what their desired intent is. For example, Bill and Ted head back to the wild west to pick up someone, yet they happen to land next to a historical figure. In this case, Billy the Kid. Now, they couldn't know they would end up at a place where Billy the Kid was and it seems rather serendipitous that Billy shows up. However, they enter in the coordinates to the Wild West. At that time, Billy the Kid had become a pop culture icon due to the film The Young Guns the year before, and Bill and Ted would have had him on their mind, be it from history or from the film. So, when the coordinates were entered, the time machine scanned their heads and surmised they wanted to be in close proximity to a famous cowboy, leading it to pinpoint Billy The Kid's location in the past and dropped them in close to him. This would explain why when they dropped into Austria near Sigmund Freud, as they may have subconsciously remembered him from their history class.

And, it also accounts for how they ended up in the future in the very chamber where the future people were waiting for them: they were desperate to get the hell out of medieval times that the time machine took it to it's default (the first) location it was formed when Bill accidentally typed in coordinates to the future when trying to get them out of there. So, the time machine's landing in proximity to historical figures isn't just random. This would also explain why the time machine is able to drop Bill and Ted in close proximity to their future selves in Face The Music (as they clearly didn't know where they would be in the 2, 2 years, 5 years and far future, but the booth clearly dropped them in, but the machine would know they wanted to see their future selves, so it would land them in close proximity to themselves after reading their minds). So, the phone booth time machine not only takes in time/space coordinates, but it scans the users' brain(s) for where they want to end up.
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[[WMG: The time machine phone booths not just work on entering numbers.]]
Many people have wondered how the time machine used in the first film tend to drop them near historical figures in the past when all the phone booth's controls consists of entering in numbers to locations. Considering the phone book probably has individual years, the location would be considered in the coordinates. But close proximity to a prominent historical figure may not be considered in the coordinates (if it weren't true, then Bill and Ted wouldn't have been able to land at any random time, but major historical events to see such figures. For example, Bill and Ted would have been more than likely to pick up Abraham Lincoln either before, during or after his famous Gettysburg address, or before his trip to the Ford Theater where he would be shot, because those are significant moments in time). This troper suspects that the phone booths have technology that reads the user's minds on what their desired intent is. For example, Bill and Ted head back to the wild west to pick up someone, yet they happen to land next to a historical figure. In this case, Billy the Kid. Now, they couldn't know they would end up at a place where Billy the Kid was and it seems rather serendipitous that Billy shows up. However, they enter in the coordinates to the Wild West. At that time, Billy the Kid had become a pop culture icon due to the film The Young Guns the year before, and Bill and Ted would have had him on their mind, be it from history or from the film. So, when the coordinates were entered, the time machine scanned their heads and surmised they wanted to be in close proximity to a famous cowboy, leading it to pinpoint Billy The Kid's location in the past and dropped them in close to him. This would explain why when they dropped into Austria near Sigmund Freud, as they may have subconsciously remembered him from their history class. And, it also accounts for how they ended up in the future in the very chamber where the future people were waiting for them: they were desperate to get the hell out of medieval times that the time machine took it to it's default (the first) location it was formed when Bill accidentally typed in coordinates to the future when trying to get them out of there. So, the time machine's landing in proximity to historical figures isn't just random. This would also explain why the time machine is able to drop Bill and Ted in close proximity to their future selves in Face The Music (as they clearly didn't know where they would be in the 2, 5 and far future, but the booth clearly dropped them in, but the machine would know they wanted to see their future selves, so it would land them in close proximity to themselves after reading their minds). So, the phone booth time machine not only takes in time/space coordinates, but it scans the users' brain(s) for where they want to end up.
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[[WMG: The Future Princesses didn't come back in time to help the Present Princesses find a reality where they're happy with Bill and Ted...]]
They traveled back in time to show the Present Princesses what would happen if they decided to leave Bill and Ted. They did it because the Present Princesses may have been considering finally leaving them, but the Future Princesses have had a long and enjoyable life with their Bill and Ted, decided to take the booth and showed them why they should stay. This would explain why the Princesses showed up at the prison to see that reality's Bill and Ted before their Bill and Ted usher them to time jump. The Future Princesses were showing the Present Princesses the alternate realities of Bill and Ted if they leave, so to make them realize that they had it well with them in their present time. This is what motivated the Present Princesses to help out with getting Face The Music played throughout time.
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** Confirmed: Missy and Deacon's wedding serves as the opening scene after the title.
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[[WMG: Bill and Ted beat Death so many times at the games, each time Death lost, they got an extra life.]]
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* Or, even better: Bill was sort of right about Missy hooking up with a son, but it turns out that for the next film, she's a MILF and has hooked up with Deacon Logan, Ted's younger brother.

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* Or, even better: Evil Bill was sort of right about Missy hooking up with a son, but it turns out that for the next film, she's a MILF and has hooked up with Deacon Logan, Ted's younger brother.
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* This is supported by ''Bogus Journey'', where Bill encounters his grandmother in his personal Hell and calls her "Granny Preston, Esquire."




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* It's never actually stated in the movie that the babies are boys. In ''Face the Music'', we find that "Little Bill" and "Little Ted" are just nicknames for Wilhelmina and Thea, respectively.



There's a few noticeable continuity problems between the first, second and third films that can be easily explain when you take into account that each film not only takes place after the previous one, but on alternate timelines to one another. This would account for why the Circle K that Evil Bill and Evil Ted land at is suggested to be the same one but looks different and in a different location (there are noticeable burn marks on the ground that are typically made by the phone booths, which indicates that the Circle K they landed at is meant to be the same one from the first film). Other than the real world explanation that they weren't able to get the same actresses from the past film(s), this would account for why the Princesses look different for each of the three films. It also explains why the future looks different in all three films as well, as each one is on another timeline different from the last. And, since many people think that Lil Bill and Lil Ted were boys at the end of Bogus Journey and girls in the upcoming ''Face The Music'', the third film being on another alternate timeline would account for that (though, as mentioned above, both the babies in Bogus Journey, were in fact played by girls and Bill and Ted may have just been busy learning to play to notice that their wives had daughters instead of sons). The only thing that doesn't change is the fact that Bill and Ted are exactly the same in all three timelines (only getting older between each film).

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There's a few noticeable continuity problems between the first, second and third films that can be easily explain when you take into account that each film not only takes place after the previous one, but on alternate timelines to one another. This would account for why the Circle K that Evil Bill and Evil Ted land at is suggested to be the same one but looks different and in a different location (there are noticeable burn marks on the ground that are typically made by the phone booths, which indicates that the Circle K they landed at is meant to be the same one from the first film). Other than the real world explanation that they weren't able to get the same actresses from the past film(s), this would account for why the Princesses look different for each of the three films. It also explains why the future looks different in all three films as well, as each one is on another timeline different from the last. And, since many people think that Lil Bill and Lil Ted were boys at the end of Bogus Journey and girls in the upcoming ''Face The Music'', the third film being on another alternate timeline would account for that (though, as mentioned above, both the babies in Bogus Journey, were in fact played by girls and Bill and Ted may have just been busy learning to play to notice that their wives had daughters instead of sons).sons, and in fact it's never actually ''stated'' in the movie that they're boys). The only thing that doesn't change is the fact that Bill and Ted are exactly the same in all three timelines (only getting older between each film).
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There's a few noticeable continuity problems between the first, second and third films that can be easily explain when you take into account that each film not only takes place after the previous one, but on alternate timelines to one another. This would account for why the Circle K that Evil Bill and Evil Ted land at is suggested to be the same one but looks different and in a different location (there are noticeable burn marks on the ground that are typically made by the phone booths, which indicates that the Circle K they landed at is meant to be the same one from the first film). Other than the real world explanation that they weren't able to get the same actresses from the past film(s), this would account for why the Princesses look different for each of the three films. It also explains why the future looks different in all three films as well, as each one is on another timeline different from the last. And, since many people think that Lil Bill and Lil Ted were boys at the end of Bogus Journey and girls in this one, the third film being on another alternate timeline would account for that (though, as mentioned above, both the babies in Bogus Journey, were in fact played by girls and Bill and Ted may have just been busy learning to play to notice that their wives had daughters instead of sons). The only thing that doesn't change is the fact that Bill and Ted are exactly the same in all three timelines (only getting older between each film).

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There's a few noticeable continuity problems between the first, second and third films that can be easily explain when you take into account that each film not only takes place after the previous one, but on alternate timelines to one another. This would account for why the Circle K that Evil Bill and Evil Ted land at is suggested to be the same one but looks different and in a different location (there are noticeable burn marks on the ground that are typically made by the phone booths, which indicates that the Circle K they landed at is meant to be the same one from the first film). Other than the real world explanation that they weren't able to get the same actresses from the past film(s), this would account for why the Princesses look different for each of the three films. It also explains why the future looks different in all three films as well, as each one is on another timeline different from the last. And, since many people think that Lil Bill and Lil Ted were boys at the end of Bogus Journey and girls in this one, the upcoming ''Face The Music'', the third film being on another alternate timeline would account for that (though, as mentioned above, both the babies in Bogus Journey, were in fact played by girls and Bill and Ted may have just been busy learning to play to notice that their wives had daughters instead of sons). The only thing that doesn't change is the fact that Bill and Ted are exactly the same in all three timelines (only getting older between each film).
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There's a few noticeable continuity problems between the first, second and third films that can be easily explain when you take into account that each film not only takes place after the previous one, but on alternate timelines to one another. This would account for why the Circle K that Evil Bill and Evil Ted land at is suggested to be the same one but looks different and in a different location (there are noticeable burn marks on the ground that are typically made by the phone booths, which indicates that the Circle K they landed at is meant to be the same one from the first film). Other than the real world explanation that they weren't able to get the same actresses from the past film(s), this would account for why the Princesses look different for each of the three films. It also explains why the future looks different in all three films as well, as each one is on another timeline different from the last). And, since many people think that Lil Bill and Lil Ted were boys at the end of Bogus Journey and girls in this one, the third film being on another alternate timeline would account for that (though, as mentioned above, both the babies in Bogus Journey, were in fact played by girls and Bill and Ted may have just been busy learning to play to notice that their wives had daughters instead of sons). The only thing that doesn't change is the fact that Bill and Ted are exactly the same in all three timelines (only getting older between each film).

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There's a few noticeable continuity problems between the first, second and third films that can be easily explain when you take into account that each film not only takes place after the previous one, but on alternate timelines to one another. This would account for why the Circle K that Evil Bill and Evil Ted land at is suggested to be the same one but looks different and in a different location (there are noticeable burn marks on the ground that are typically made by the phone booths, which indicates that the Circle K they landed at is meant to be the same one from the first film). Other than the real world explanation that they weren't able to get the same actresses from the past film(s), this would account for why the Princesses look different for each of the three films. It also explains why the future looks different in all three films as well, as each one is on another timeline different from the last).last. And, since many people think that Lil Bill and Lil Ted were boys at the end of Bogus Journey and girls in this one, the third film being on another alternate timeline would account for that (though, as mentioned above, both the babies in Bogus Journey, were in fact played by girls and Bill and Ted may have just been busy learning to play to notice that their wives had daughters instead of sons). The only thing that doesn't change is the fact that Bill and Ted are exactly the same in all three timelines (only getting older between each film).

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