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She has amazing magical powers, her curse has arbitrary rules that have to be followed and she seems to follow a BlueAndOrangeMorality where punishing the staff fits into the plan to make the Beast find love. Seems very Fae to me.
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She has amazing magical powers, her curse has arbitrary rules that have to be followed and she seems to follow a BlueAndOrangeMorality where punishing the staff fits into the plan to make the Beast find love.love but she feels no need to punish Gaston despite his rather worse crimes. She's also quite the shape-shifter and quick to take offense. Seems very Fae to me.
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After the curse was set upon the prince and everyone he ever shook hands with, obviously the entire staff of the castle (and some others) were all transformed into enchanted objects. By the time the film takes place, there's only about half a dozen who are still up and about. This is because these select few--Lumiere, Cadenza, Chapeau, Cogsworth, Mrs. Potts, Madame de Garderobe, Plumette, and Chip--were the most strong-willed of them all and had the most faith that the prince could reform himself and eventually break the curse. The rest, however, lost hope over the years and this caused them to turn into objects "permanently"--they came back when the curse was broken. Up until that point, it was very difficult for the rest of them to wake up again and that's why the castle seems so empty and they only appear in a few scenes (such as during "Be Our Guest"). They didn't show up immediately after the curse was broken because it took a little longer for the magic to wear off for them, but they ''did'' all come back in the end.
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After the curse was set upon the prince and everyone he ever shook hands with, obviously the entire staff of the castle (and some others) were all transformed into enchanted objects. By the time the film takes place, there's only about half a dozen who are still up and about. This is because these select few--Lumiere, Cadenza, Chapeau, Cogsworth, Mrs. Potts, Madame de Garderobe, Plumette, and Chip--were the most strong-willed of them all and had the most faith that the prince could reform himself and eventually break the curse. The rest, however, lost hope over the years and this caused them to turn into objects "permanently"--they came back when the curse was broken. Up until that point, it was very difficult for the rest of them to wake up again and that's why the castle seems so empty and they only appear in a few scenes (such as during "Be Our Guest"). They didn't show up immediately after the curse was broken because it took a little longer for the magic to wear off for them, but they ''did'' all come back in the end.end.
[[WMG: The Enchantress is one of TheFairFolk]]
She has amazing magical powers, her curse has arbitrary rules that have to be followed and she seems to follow a BlueAndOrangeMorality where punishing the staff fits into the plan to make the Beast find love. Seems very Fae to me.
[[WMG: The Enchantress is one of TheFairFolk]]
She has amazing magical powers, her curse has arbitrary rules that have to be followed and she seems to follow a BlueAndOrangeMorality where punishing the staff fits into the plan to make the Beast find love. Seems very Fae to me.
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Of course this isn't really feasible, given the different time periods. Both Maurice and Phoebus are Kevin Kline in Paris, and Belle's mother was vaguely Romani looking, with long, luxuriant dark hair, and is said to have been "fearless," so let's just pretend. Even with Frollo dead, Phoebus was still technically a deserter, so he changed his name to Maurice to evade the law and became an artist. He and Esmeralda then settled down and had a daughter, but sadly Esmeralda caught the plague, Maurice was forced to flee with baby Belle, etc. Where Quasimodo is in all this, and if he's still alive during the main BatB timeline, is [[FanficFodder an open question.]]
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Of course this isn't really feasible, given the different time periods. Both Maurice and Phoebus are Kevin Kline in Paris, and Belle's mother was vaguely Romani looking, with long, luxuriant dark hair, and is said to have been "fearless," so let's just pretend. Even with Frollo dead, Phoebus was still technically a deserter, so he changed his name to Maurice to evade the law and became an artist. He and Esmeralda then settled down and had a daughter, but sadly [[spoiler: Esmeralda caught the plague, Maurice was forced to flee with baby Belle, etc. etc.]] Where Quasimodo is in during all this, and if he's still alive during the main BatB ''Beauty and the Beast'' timeline, is [[FanficFodder [[FanficFuel an open question.]]
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[[WMG: Maurice and Belle are related to the miller's family from The Hunchback of Notre Dame]]
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[[WMG: Maurice and Belle are related to the miller's family from The ''The Hunchback of Notre Dame]]
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[[WMG: If a live-action Hunchback of Notre Dame is ever made, the characters from this movie will appear, even if just as TheCameo.]]
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[[WMG: Maurice is Phoebus from ''The Hunchback of Notre Dame'' and Belle's mother was Esmeralda.]]
Of course this isn't really feasible, given the different time periods. Both Maurice and Phoebus are Kevin Kline in Paris, and Belle's mother was vaguely Romani looking, with long, luxuriant dark hair, and is said to have been "fearless," so let's just pretend. Even with Frollo dead, Phoebus was still technically a deserter, so he changed his name to Maurice to evade the law and became an artist. He and Esmeralda then settled down and had a daughter, but sadly Esmeralda caught the plague, Maurice was forced to flee with baby Belle, etc. Where Quasimodo is in all this, and if he's still alive during the main BatB timeline, is [[FanficFodder an open question.]]
[[WMG: If a live-actionHunchback ''Hunchback of Notre Dame Dame'' is ever made, the characters from this movie will appear, even if just as TheCameo.]]
Of course this isn't really feasible, given the different time periods. Both Maurice and Phoebus are Kevin Kline in Paris, and Belle's mother was vaguely Romani looking, with long, luxuriant dark hair, and is said to have been "fearless," so let's just pretend. Even with Frollo dead, Phoebus was still technically a deserter, so he changed his name to Maurice to evade the law and became an artist. He and Esmeralda then settled down and had a daughter, but sadly Esmeralda caught the plague, Maurice was forced to flee with baby Belle, etc. Where Quasimodo is in all this, and if he's still alive during the main BatB timeline, is [[FanficFodder an open question.]]
[[WMG: If a live-action
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After the curse was set upon the prince and everyone he ever shook hands with, obviously the entire staff of the castle (and some others) were all transformed into enchanted objects. By the time the film takes place, there's only about half a dozen who are still up and about. This is because these select few--Lumiere, Cadenza, Cogsworth, Mrs. Potts, Madame de Garderobe, Plumette, and Chip--were the most strong-willed of them all and had the most faith that the prince could reform himself and eventually break the curse. The rest, however, lost hope over the years and this caused them to turn into objects "permanently"--they came back when the curse was broken. Up until that point, it was very difficult for the rest of them to wake up again and that's why the castle seems so empty and they only appear in a few scenes (such as during "Be Our Guest"). They didn't show up immediately after the curse was broken because it took a little longer for the magic to wear off for them, but they ''did'' all come back in the end.
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After the curse was set upon the prince and everyone he ever shook hands with, obviously the entire staff of the castle (and some others) were all transformed into enchanted objects. By the time the film takes place, there's only about half a dozen who are still up and about. This is because these select few--Lumiere, Cadenza, Chapeau, Cogsworth, Mrs. Potts, Madame de Garderobe, Plumette, and Chip--were the most strong-willed of them all and had the most faith that the prince could reform himself and eventually break the curse. The rest, however, lost hope over the years and this caused them to turn into objects "permanently"--they came back when the curse was broken. Up until that point, it was very difficult for the rest of them to wake up again and that's why the castle seems so empty and they only appear in a few scenes (such as during "Be Our Guest"). They didn't show up immediately after the curse was broken because it took a little longer for the magic to wear off for them, but they ''did'' all come back in the end.
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[[WMG: The piano character will be somewhat antagonistic.]]
Just look at the guy's concept art! The dude doesn't look too friendly. He won't be Forte levels of evil, but he may try to stir up trouble for Belle and the Beast.
* '''Jossed.''' The piano doesn't cause trouble.
[[WMG: Alternatively, the piano character will turn out to be a nice guy.]]
[[MythologyGag "She warned him not to be deceived by appearances, for beauty is found within."]]
* '''Confirmed.''' He's Madame de Garderobe's (The Wardrobe's) CanonForeigner husband.
Just look at the guy's concept art! The dude doesn't look too friendly. He won't be Forte levels of evil, but he may try to stir up trouble for Belle and the Beast.
* '''Jossed.''' The piano doesn't cause trouble.
[[WMG: Alternatively, the piano character will turn out to be a nice guy.]]
[[MythologyGag "She warned him not to be deceived by appearances, for beauty is found within."]]
* '''Confirmed.''' He's Madame de Garderobe's (The Wardrobe's) CanonForeigner husband.
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[[WMG: In this version, the Beast's father is the one who turned the Enchantress away not the Beast himself.]]
Think about it, the family portrait is defaced and the father's face is even more defaced than the Beast himself, and the mother is the only one untouched. The Beast got punished due to the BlueAndOrangeMorality of the Enchantress.
* This would address the complaints many people had over the fact that the Enchantress cursed ''a child'' for being, well, a bratty child.
* '''Jossed.''' The Prince is an adult when he's cursed. The painting is slashed because [[spoiler: after the Prince's loving mother died when he was a child, it was his father who raised him to be spoiled, selfish, and unkind]].
[[WMG: The Enchantress crashed a party the King and Queen were hosting and cursed everyone at the castle upon failure of receiving SacredHospitality.]]
The newest trailer shows two quick clips of several people in fancy dress dancing and what appears to be a party atmosphere. Neither Belle or the Beast (even in human form) are seen in these clips. To go with the above WMG, the beggar woman/Enchantress showed up during the festivities, the King turned her away, she curses everyone.
* '''Jossed'''. The Prince is hosting the ball in the Prologue -- but it is indeed crashed by the Enchantress.
[[WMG: Monsieur D'Arque will play a larger role here.]]
He'll play CoDragons with [=LeFou=] and have a role in the castle invasion.
* Perhaps he'll get AdaptationalKarma too. In the original movie, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse he just kinda disappears]].
* '''Jossed.''' There is no M. D'Arque as such, just an unnamed asylum employee who appears for like two seconds. [[spoiler:Maurice is taken away after he attempts to lead Gaston to the Beast's castle at the latter's request, fails and is tied to a tree and left for dead. After escaping, he denounces Gaston in front of the whole village, and of course the bastard denies it and declares Maurice to be cuckoo.]] There's no crooked bargain as in the original, just [[spoiler:crooked lies]].
** If the film credits are anything to go by, the employee is indeed Monsieur D'Arque.
Think about it, the family portrait is defaced and the father's face is even more defaced than the Beast himself, and the mother is the only one untouched. The Beast got punished due to the BlueAndOrangeMorality of the Enchantress.
* This would address the complaints many people had over the fact that the Enchantress cursed ''a child'' for being, well, a bratty child.
* '''Jossed.''' The Prince is an adult when he's cursed. The painting is slashed because [[spoiler: after the Prince's loving mother died when he was a child, it was his father who raised him to be spoiled, selfish, and unkind]].
[[WMG: The Enchantress crashed a party the King and Queen were hosting and cursed everyone at the castle upon failure of receiving SacredHospitality.]]
The newest trailer shows two quick clips of several people in fancy dress dancing and what appears to be a party atmosphere. Neither Belle or the Beast (even in human form) are seen in these clips. To go with the above WMG, the beggar woman/Enchantress showed up during the festivities, the King turned her away, she curses everyone.
* '''Jossed'''. The Prince is hosting the ball in the Prologue -- but it is indeed crashed by the Enchantress.
[[WMG: Monsieur D'Arque will play a larger role here.]]
He'll play CoDragons with [=LeFou=] and have a role in the castle invasion.
* Perhaps he'll get AdaptationalKarma too. In the original movie, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse he just kinda disappears]].
* '''Jossed.''' There is no M. D'Arque as such, just an unnamed asylum employee who appears for like two seconds. [[spoiler:Maurice is taken away after he attempts to lead Gaston to the Beast's castle at the latter's request, fails and is tied to a tree and left for dead. After escaping, he denounces Gaston in front of the whole village, and of course the bastard denies it and declares Maurice to be cuckoo.]] There's no crooked bargain as in the original, just [[spoiler:crooked lies]].
** If the film credits are anything to go by, the employee is indeed Monsieur D'Arque.
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[[WMG: Guesses for the Beast's actual name (IF we get one)]]
Bold the winner
* Adam
** A possibility, since this has been the most accepted name for the Prince since a computer game "proposed" this as the right answer.
** [[spoiler:'''Confirmed''': The name is never mentioned in the film, but his actor Dan Stevens mentioned the name in an interview. Seeing as Dan can't promote the movie with information that isn't true, it has unofficially been confirmed that the Beast/Prince's name is indeed Adam.]]
* Vincent
* Christophe
** This name seems unlikely since [[Disney/{{Frozen}} there's already a Kristoff in Disney canon]].
* Stéphane
* Gastrudamel
[[WMG: The wolf pack will kill Gaston at the end of the movie.]]
This was one of the [[WhatCouldHaveBeen original ideas for Gaston's death in the animated movie]]. Assuming that this remake will be DarkerAndEdgier than said counterpart, perhaps we will get to see it happen.
* [[spoiler: '''Jossed.''' Gaston still plummets to his death in this one.]]
[[WMG: One of Belle's inventions will be a ChekhovsGun.]]
Given that Belle will be an inventor in the movie and a machine played an important part in the original film, something similar will probably happen in the remake. It may or may not be the same kind of machine as in the original, but it will be introduced earlier in the film and will play a very important role close to the film's climax.
* [[spoiler: '''Jossed.''' Somewhat - although Belle provides the tools, Maurice is ultimately the one who gets him and Belle out of the paddy-wagon]]
Bold the winner
* Adam
** A possibility, since this has been the most accepted name for the Prince since a computer game "proposed" this as the right answer.
** [[spoiler:'''Confirmed''': The name is never mentioned in the film, but his actor Dan Stevens mentioned the name in an interview. Seeing as Dan can't promote the movie with information that isn't true, it has unofficially been confirmed that the Beast/Prince's name is indeed Adam.]]
* Vincent
* Christophe
** This name seems unlikely since [[Disney/{{Frozen}} there's already a Kristoff in Disney canon]].
* Stéphane
* Gastrudamel
[[WMG: The wolf pack will kill Gaston at the end of the movie.]]
This was one of the [[WhatCouldHaveBeen original ideas for Gaston's death in the animated movie]]. Assuming that this remake will be DarkerAndEdgier than said counterpart, perhaps we will get to see it happen.
* [[spoiler: '''Jossed.''' Gaston still plummets to his death in this one.]]
[[WMG: One of Belle's inventions will be a ChekhovsGun.]]
Given that Belle will be an inventor in the movie and a machine played an important part in the original film, something similar will probably happen in the remake. It may or may not be the same kind of machine as in the original, but it will be introduced earlier in the film and will play a very important role close to the film's climax.
* [[spoiler: '''Jossed.''' Somewhat - although Belle provides the tools, Maurice is ultimately the one who gets him and Belle out of the paddy-wagon]]
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[[WMG: We will see more scenes of the Prince and the household servants in their human form]]
In the original Disney film we only saw about 2 minutes of the Prince and his servants as humans at the end of the film once Belle unintentionally breaks the spell. This time though we will see more screentime of the Prince and his servants as human beings. Not only will we see them return as human, we will also see them be cursed by The Enchantress either at the start of the film or, as in ''The Enchanted Christmas'', via flashback.
* '''Confirmed.''' The Prologue dramatizes the fateful night everyone was cursed, and the mid-film musical number "Days in the Sun" is an extended {{Flashback}} sequence revealing the Beast's backstory as the Prince.
In the original Disney film we only saw about 2 minutes of the Prince and his servants as humans at the end of the film once Belle unintentionally breaks the spell. This time though we will see more screentime of the Prince and his servants as human beings. Not only will we see them return as human, we will also see them be cursed by The Enchantress either at the start of the film or, as in ''The Enchanted Christmas'', via flashback.
* '''Confirmed.''' The Prologue dramatizes the fateful night everyone was cursed, and the mid-film musical number "Days in the Sun" is an extended {{Flashback}} sequence revealing the Beast's backstory as the Prince.
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In the original Disney film we only saw about 2 minutes of the Prince and his servants as humans at the end of the film once Belle unintentionally breaks the spell. This time though we will see more screentime of the Prince and his servants as human beings. Not only will we see them return as human, we will also see them be cursed by The Enchantress either at the start of the film or, as in ''The Enchanted Christmas'', via flashback.
* '''Confirmed.''' The Prologue dramatizes the fateful night everyone was cursed, and the mid-film musical number "Days in the Sun" is an extended {{Flashback}} sequence revealing the Beast's backstory as the Prince.
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[[WMG: Gaston is really Bard the bowman. Bard is just a nickname and Gaston has a history of saving villages. Bard found out that he wasn't a good a ruler as many people thought he was and he and his children went their separate ways. Bard decided to retire in Belle's village. The reason Bard goes after Belle is because Belle reminds him of his wife]]
** Would certainly explain why he's so determined to kill the Beast: he doesn't want another repeat of what happened in Lake-Town.
* '''Jossed.''' He's a war veteran, and he does hunt, but no mention of him being Bard is made.
** Would certainly explain why he's so determined to kill the Beast: he doesn't want another repeat of what happened in Lake-Town.
* '''Jossed.''' He's a war veteran, and he does hunt, but no mention of him being Bard is made.
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[[WMG: Gaston will also be gay.]]
Gaston will be SparedByTheAdaptation and his hypermasculine persona will be shown as a mask he puts on due to society's pressures on men. Belle will encourage [=LeFou=] to use love to bring out the best in him, just as she did for the Beast.
* '''Jossed.''' No such thing happens, and as in the 1991 film, Gaston remains evil (and straight) to the end and suffers a DisneyVillainDeath after he seemingly kills the Beast.
Gaston will be SparedByTheAdaptation and his hypermasculine persona will be shown as a mask he puts on due to society's pressures on men. Belle will encourage [=LeFou=] to use love to bring out the best in him, just as she did for the Beast.
* '''Jossed.''' No such thing happens, and as in the 1991 film, Gaston remains evil (and straight) to the end and suffers a DisneyVillainDeath after he seemingly kills the Beast.
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* Jossed, unfortunately as this would have added complexity far better than just merely making him gay.
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* Except that time travel in the HP universe is only possible via time turner, which only turns back hours, not years. Not to mention that all the time turners were destroyed during the battle at the Ministry of Magic in Order of the Phoenix.
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Think about it, not once, are the prince's parents referred to as "King" or "Queen" (except for in the credits). In the prologue it's mentioned that the prince heavily taxed the village, but how if he didn't actually rule the village? Simple! It's an isolated provincial town, he (or his father) just made them believe he was royalty (he sure seemed to be).
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Think about it, not once, are the prince's parents referred to as "King" or "Queen" (except for in the credits). In the prologue it's mentioned that the prince heavily taxed the village, but how if he didn't actually rule the village? Simple! It's an isolated provincial town, he (or his father) just made them believe he was royalty (he sure seemed to be).be).
[[WMG: There used to be more servants but they hit the DespairEventHorizon]]
After the curse was set upon the prince and everyone he ever shook hands with, obviously the entire staff of the castle (and some others) were all transformed into enchanted objects. By the time the film takes place, there's only about half a dozen who are still up and about. This is because these select few--Lumiere, Cadenza, Cogsworth, Mrs. Potts, Madame de Garderobe, Plumette, and Chip--were the most strong-willed of them all and had the most faith that the prince could reform himself and eventually break the curse. The rest, however, lost hope over the years and this caused them to turn into objects "permanently"--they came back when the curse was broken. Up until that point, it was very difficult for the rest of them to wake up again and that's why the castle seems so empty and they only appear in a few scenes (such as during "Be Our Guest"). They didn't show up immediately after the curse was broken because it took a little longer for the magic to wear off for them, but they ''did'' all come back in the end.
[[WMG: There used to be more servants but they hit the DespairEventHorizon]]
After the curse was set upon the prince and everyone he ever shook hands with, obviously the entire staff of the castle (and some others) were all transformed into enchanted objects. By the time the film takes place, there's only about half a dozen who are still up and about. This is because these select few--Lumiere, Cadenza, Cogsworth, Mrs. Potts, Madame de Garderobe, Plumette, and Chip--were the most strong-willed of them all and had the most faith that the prince could reform himself and eventually break the curse. The rest, however, lost hope over the years and this caused them to turn into objects "permanently"--they came back when the curse was broken. Up until that point, it was very difficult for the rest of them to wake up again and that's why the castle seems so empty and they only appear in a few scenes (such as during "Be Our Guest"). They didn't show up immediately after the curse was broken because it took a little longer for the magic to wear off for them, but they ''did'' all come back in the end.
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* At the beginning of the movie, he is trying to cope with his mental issues, but by the time of the mob scene, Gaston has experienced a psychological break and is lashing out at anything he perceives as a threat.
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* At the beginning of the movie, he is trying to cope with his mental issues, but by the time of the mob scene, Gaston has experienced a psychological break and is lashing out at anything he perceives as a threat.threat.
[[WMG: The prince was not actually the prince to any kingdom.]]
In France, back in the day, it was not unusual for "prince" to simply be an aristocratic title, of someone with a high rank of nobility, but without ruling any actual territory and without any link to the royal family.
Think about it, not once, are the prince's parents referred to as "King" or "Queen" (except for in the credits). In the prologue it's mentioned that the prince heavily taxed the village, but how if he didn't actually rule the village? Simple! It's an isolated provincial town, he (or his father) just made them believe he was royalty (he sure seemed to be).
[[WMG: The prince was not actually the prince to any kingdom.]]
In France, back in the day, it was not unusual for "prince" to simply be an aristocratic title, of someone with a high rank of nobility, but without ruling any actual territory and without any link to the royal family.
Think about it, not once, are the prince's parents referred to as "King" or "Queen" (except for in the credits). In the prologue it's mentioned that the prince heavily taxed the village, but how if he didn't actually rule the village? Simple! It's an isolated provincial town, he (or his father) just made them believe he was royalty (he sure seemed to be).
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They all came to work in the castle. This was considered a very good gig and was open to them because the Beast's mom was so open-minded. As a man of God, Père Robert was immune to the curse, so the Enchantress had him expelled from the castle and sent to live in the village.
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They all came to work in the castle. This was considered a very good gig and was open to them because the Beast's mom was so open-minded. As a man of God, Père Robert was immune to the curse, so the Enchantress had him expelled from the castle and sent to live in the village.village.
[[WMG: Gaston suffers from a form of PTSD after his time spent as a soldier.]]
Gaston shows a myriad of symptoms indicative of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, likely stemming from his experiences in the French Revolution, which may help to explain his sudden devolution into the villain of the movie.
* Gaston has angry outbursts, such as when he steps in a mud puddle and when he threatens Maurice.
** LeFou helps Gaston to control himself by reminding him of the violence and bloodshed (and the widows).
* Hypervigilance, when Gaston perceives danger from the Beast and turns on the woman he loves and his best friend.
* Inability to reconnect with loved ones (LeFou and Belle in the mob scene)
* At the beginning of the movie, he is trying to cope with his mental issues, but by the time of the mob scene, Gaston has experienced a psychological break and is lashing out at anything he perceives as a threat.
[[WMG: Gaston suffers from a form of PTSD after his time spent as a soldier.]]
Gaston shows a myriad of symptoms indicative of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, likely stemming from his experiences in the French Revolution, which may help to explain his sudden devolution into the villain of the movie.
* Gaston has angry outbursts, such as when he steps in a mud puddle and when he threatens Maurice.
** LeFou helps Gaston to control himself by reminding him of the violence and bloodshed (and the widows).
* Hypervigilance, when Gaston perceives danger from the Beast and turns on the woman he loves and his best friend.
* Inability to reconnect with loved ones (LeFou and Belle in the mob scene)
* At the beginning of the movie, he is trying to cope with his mental issues, but by the time of the mob scene, Gaston has experienced a psychological break and is lashing out at anything he perceives as a threat.
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* The breaking of the curse represents the Bourbon Restoration. It brings the Beast back to power, but now he knows he won't be able to rule over his subjects like he used to. (Well, at least until Charles X's metaphorical rule starts, but that's for the sequel.)
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* The breaking of the curse represents the Bourbon Restoration. It brings the Beast back to power, but now he knows he won't be able to rule over his subjects like he used to. (Well, at least until Charles X's metaphorical rule starts, but that's for the sequel.))
[[WMG: The black characters are Haitian ''gens de couleur'' who came over from French-ruled Saint-Domingue.]]
They all came to work in the castle. This was considered a very good gig and was open to them because the Beast's mom was so open-minded. As a man of God, Père Robert was immune to the curse, so the Enchantress had him expelled from the castle and sent to live in the village.
[[WMG: The black characters are Haitian ''gens de couleur'' who came over from French-ruled Saint-Domingue.]]
They all came to work in the castle. This was considered a very good gig and was open to them because the Beast's mom was so open-minded. As a man of God, Père Robert was immune to the curse, so the Enchantress had him expelled from the castle and sent to live in the village.
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* The breaking of the curse represents the Bourbon Restoration. It brings the Beast back to power, but now he knows he won't be able to rule over his subjects like he used to.
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* The breaking of the curse represents the Bourbon Restoration. It brings the Beast back to power, but now he knows he won't be able to rule over his subjects like he used to. (Well, at least until Charles X's metaphorical rule starts, but that's for the sequel.)
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* The breaking of the curse represents the Bourbon Restoration. It brings the Beast back to power, but now he knows he won't be able to rule over them like he used to.
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* The breaking of the curse represents the Bourbon Restoration. It brings the Beast back to power, but now he knows he won't be able to rule over them his subjects like he used to.
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[[WMG:Belle and Beast are a yin-yang interplay of Enlightenment and Romanticism.]]
Belle's the village weirdo, despite being the town's "most beautiful woman". She can read, has mechanical inclination (anticipating her father's next needed tool/component, designing, prototyping, and constructing a churning clothes washer), has pro-education sentiments, and asserts herself rationally towards Beast's and Gaston's obstinacy. However, she has a romantic streak when it comes to reading stories (as per the "Prince Charming" part of her IAmSong at the beginning). Beast, conversely, has had his broodiness dialed up to eleven, and now a dyed-in-the-wool Byronic Hero. However, he had his pick of beautiful debutantes as shown in the prologue; he's attracted to Belle ''because'' of her enlightened intellect ("[[Theatre/AMidsummerNightsDream Love looks not with the eyes but with the mind]]"), shares her dislike of rustic life ("Your village sounds terrible"), and has an initial dislike of silly romance stories (until he catches the bug from Belle). Belle is Enlightened with a Romantic streak, Beast is Romantic with an Enlightened streak.
Belle's the village weirdo, despite being the town's "most beautiful woman". She can read, has mechanical inclination (anticipating her father's next needed tool/component, designing, prototyping, and constructing a churning clothes washer), has pro-education sentiments, and asserts herself rationally towards Beast's and Gaston's obstinacy. However, she has a romantic streak when it comes to reading stories (as per the "Prince Charming" part of her IAmSong at the beginning). Beast, conversely, has had his broodiness dialed up to eleven, and now a dyed-in-the-wool Byronic Hero. However, he had his pick of beautiful debutantes as shown in the prologue; he's attracted to Belle ''because'' of her enlightened intellect ("[[Theatre/AMidsummerNightsDream Love looks not with the eyes but with the mind]]"), shares her dislike of rustic life ("Your village sounds terrible"), and has an initial dislike of silly romance stories (until he catches the bug from Belle). Belle is Enlightened with a Romantic streak, Beast is Romantic with an Enlightened streak.
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Belle's the village weirdo, despite being the town's "most beautiful woman". She can read, has mechanical inclination (anticipating her father's next needed tool/component, designing, prototyping, and constructing a churning clothes washer), has pro-education sentiments, and asserts herself rationally towards Beast's and Gaston's obstinacy. However, she has a romantic streak when it comes to reading stories (as per the "Prince Charming" part of her IAmSong at the beginning). Beast, conversely, has had his broodiness dialed up to eleven, and now a dyed-in-the-wool Byronic Hero. However, he had his pick of beautiful debutantes as shown in the prologue; he's attracted to Belle ''because'' of her enlightened intellect ("[[Theatre/AMidsummerNightsDream Love looks not with the eyes but with the mind]]"), shares her dislike of rustic life ("Your village sounds terrible"), and has an initial dislike of silly romance stories (until he catches the bug from Belle). Belle is Enlightened with a Romantic streak, Beast is Romantic with an Enlightened
[[WMG: The film is an allegory of UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution and its aftermath]]
It goes like this:
* The House of Bourbon is represented by the Beast, who is removed from power because of his cruelty towards his subjects.
* The French Revolution itself is represented by the curse, which removes the Beast from power and leaves his subjects to continue on without him.
* Marianne (that is, the spirit of the French people) is represented by Agathe, who removed the Beast from power after he mistreated her and will ultimately decide whether he rules again.
* Napoleon is represented by Gaston, the popular war-loving "hero" who rules the village in the Beast's absence.
* Wellington is represented by Belle, who saves the Beast from Gaston.
* The breaking of the curse represents the Bourbon Restoration. It brings the Beast back to power, but now he knows he won't be able to rule over them like he used to.
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It's a WMG. It doesn't have to be consistent. Quit being a killjoy!
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** Jossed. Nearly everyone in the film speaks with an English accent, save for the [[CanonForeigner canon foreigners]] and Lumiere.
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[[WMG: Had the curse's stipulations been the same as in this film, Forte would've been a much more dependable protagonist.]]
The animated Forte wanted the curse to never break as he felt he performed his role much better as an organ. This film adds in the complication that if the time limit expires and the curse remains unbroken, the servants will become inanimate objects forever. Had this been in play in the animated film, Forte would've actively tried to help break the curse since he will die with the others if it isn't broken. In other words, Cadenza is a look at what a hero Forte could've been had the circumstances (and Forte's personality) been different.
The animated Forte wanted the curse to never break as he felt he performed his role much better as an organ. This film adds in the complication that if the time limit expires and the curse remains unbroken, the servants will become inanimate objects forever. Had this been in play in the animated film, Forte would've actively tried to help break the curse since he will die with the others if it isn't broken. In other words, Cadenza is a look at what a hero Forte could've been had the circumstances (and Forte's personality) been different.
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* Not confirmed, sadly, as this would have been a perfect explanation as for why it was used to tie up the loose ends of a small subplot.
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* Jossed, unfortunately as this would have added complexity far better than just merely making him gay.
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** Jossed. Nearly everyone in the film speaks with an English accent, save for the [[CanonForeigner canon foreigners]] and Lumiere.
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The directors and animators themselves, as well as Disney itself, said that the Beast never had a name.
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Either just Belle being seen in the background like in the animated version (implying that she lived in Paris before she and her father moved to Villenueve), or maybe even Belle, Adam, and some of the other now-human characters from this movie (maybe they come there for a visit like the Feast of Fools). Or, if the CrisisCrossover film proposed above is ever made, perhaps Quasimodo and Adam could become friends over their similar past experiences (being horribly ugly, hidden in a castle/cathedral, falling in love with someone they didn't think could love them back, and [[spoiler: growing up with an abusive father figure]]).
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Either just Belle being seen in the background like in the animated version (implying that she lived in Paris before she and her father moved to Villenueve), or maybe even Belle, Adam, the prince, and some of the other now-human characters from this movie (maybe they come there for a visit like the Feast of Fools). Or, if the CrisisCrossover film proposed above is ever made, perhaps Quasimodo and Adam the prince could become friends over their similar past experiences (being horribly ugly, hidden in a castle/cathedral, falling in love with someone they didn't think could love them back, and [[spoiler: growing up with an abusive father figure]]).
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* Belle recites Shakespearean sonnets, indicating that she can speak and read English
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* Belle recites Shakespearean sonnets, indicating that she can speak and read EnglishEnglish
[[WMG:Belle and Beast are a yin-yang interplay of Enlightenment and Romanticism.]]
Belle's the village weirdo, despite being the town's "most beautiful woman". She can read, has mechanical inclination (anticipating her father's next needed tool/component, designing, prototyping, and constructing a churning clothes washer), has pro-education sentiments, and asserts herself rationally towards Beast's and Gaston's obstinacy. However, she has a romantic streak when it comes to reading stories (as per the "Prince Charming" part of her IAmSong at the beginning). Beast, conversely, has had his broodiness dialed up to eleven, and now a dyed-in-the-wool Byronic Hero. However, he had his pick of beautiful debutantes as shown in the prologue; he's attracted to Belle ''because'' of her enlightened intellect ("[[Theatre/AMidsummerNightsDream Love looks not with the eyes but with the mind]]"), shares her dislike of rustic life ("Your village sounds terrible"), and has an initial dislike of silly romance stories (until he catches the bug from Belle). Belle is Enlightened with a Romantic streak, Beast is Romantic with an Enlightened streak.
[[WMG:Belle and Beast are a yin-yang interplay of Enlightenment and Romanticism.]]
Belle's the village weirdo, despite being the town's "most beautiful woman". She can read, has mechanical inclination (anticipating her father's next needed tool/component, designing, prototyping, and constructing a churning clothes washer), has pro-education sentiments, and asserts herself rationally towards Beast's and Gaston's obstinacy. However, she has a romantic streak when it comes to reading stories (as per the "Prince Charming" part of her IAmSong at the beginning). Beast, conversely, has had his broodiness dialed up to eleven, and now a dyed-in-the-wool Byronic Hero. However, he had his pick of beautiful debutantes as shown in the prologue; he's attracted to Belle ''because'' of her enlightened intellect ("[[Theatre/AMidsummerNightsDream Love looks not with the eyes but with the mind]]"), shares her dislike of rustic life ("Your village sounds terrible"), and has an initial dislike of silly romance stories (until he catches the bug from Belle). Belle is Enlightened with a Romantic streak, Beast is Romantic with an Enlightened streak.
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* Maurice speaks with an English accent, even though Kevin Kline did a passable French accent in Film/FrenchKiss
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* Maurice speaks with an English accent, even though Kevin Kline did a passable French accent in Film/FrenchKiss''Film/FrenchKiss''
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Although the curse is lifted, those affected by it will never be fully rid of the magic that was part of their lives for so long. This is the reason why Lumiere's wig briefly catches fire and [[spoiler:the prince is able to growl with the same force as the beast.]]
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Although the curse is lifted, those affected by it will never be fully rid of the magic that was part of their lives for so long. This is the reason why Lumiere's wig briefly catches fire and [[spoiler:the prince is able to growl with the same force as the beast.]]]]
[[WMG: Belle and her family are English]]
Consider the following:
* Belle and Maurice both speak with English accents, even though no one else does
* Maurice speaks with an English accent, even though Kevin Kline did a passable French accent in Film/FrenchKiss
* Maurice is indeed a French name, but not at all uncommon in England
* Belle recites Shakespearean sonnets, indicating that she can speak and read English
[[WMG: Belle and her family are English]]
Consider the following:
* Belle and Maurice both speak with English accents, even though no one else does
* Maurice speaks with an English accent, even though Kevin Kline did a passable French accent in Film/FrenchKiss
* Maurice is indeed a French name, but not at all uncommon in England
* Belle recites Shakespearean sonnets, indicating that she can speak and read English
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Either just Belle being seen in the background like in the animated version (implying that she lived in Paris before she and her father moved to Villenueve), or maybe even Belle, Adam, and some of the other now-human characters from this movie (maybe they come there for a visit like the Feast of Fools). Or, if the CrisisCrossover film proposed above is ever made, perhaps Quasimodo and Adam could become friends over their similar past experiences (being horribly ugly, hidden in a castle/cathedral, falling in love with someone they didn't think could love them back, and [[spoiler: growing up with an abusive father figure]]).
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Either just Belle being seen in the background like in the animated version (implying that she lived in Paris before she and her father moved to Villenueve), or maybe even Belle, Adam, and some of the other now-human characters from this movie (maybe they come there for a visit like the Feast of Fools). Or, if the CrisisCrossover film proposed above is ever made, perhaps Quasimodo and Adam could become friends over their similar past experiences (being horribly ugly, hidden in a castle/cathedral, falling in love with someone they didn't think could love them back, and [[spoiler: growing up with an abusive father figure]]).figure]]).
[[WMG: The Enchantress' magic still lingers.]]
Although the curse is lifted, those affected by it will never be fully rid of the magic that was part of their lives for so long. This is the reason why Lumiere's wig briefly catches fire and [[spoiler:the prince is able to growl with the same force as the beast.]]
[[WMG: The Enchantress' magic still lingers.]]
Although the curse is lifted, those affected by it will never be fully rid of the magic that was part of their lives for so long. This is the reason why Lumiere's wig briefly catches fire and [[spoiler:the prince is able to growl with the same force as the beast.]]
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[[WMG: If a live-action Hunchback of Notre Dame is ever made, the characters from this movie will appear as TheCameo.]]
Either just Belle being seen in the background like in the animated version (implying that she lived in Paris before she and her father moved to Villenueve), or maybe even Belle, Adam, and some of the other now-human characters from this movie (maybe they come there for a visit like the Feast of Fools).
Either just Belle being seen in the background like in the animated version (implying that she lived in Paris before she and her father moved to Villenueve), or maybe even Belle, Adam, and some of the other now-human characters from this movie (maybe they come there for a visit like the Feast of Fools).
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[[WMG: If a live-action Hunchback of Notre Dame is ever made, the characters from this movie will appear appear, even if just as TheCameo.]]
Either just Belle being seen in the background like in the animated version (implying that she lived in Paris before she and her father moved to Villenueve), or maybe even Belle, Adam, and some of the other now-human characters from this movie (maybe they come there for a visit like the Feast of Fools). Or, if the CrisisCrossover film proposed above is ever made, perhaps Quasimodo and Adam could become friends over their similar past experiences (being horribly ugly, hidden in a castle/cathedral, falling in love with someone they didn't think could love them back, and [[spoiler: growing up with an abusive father figure]]).
Either just Belle being seen in the background like in the animated version (implying that she lived in Paris before she and her father moved to Villenueve), or maybe even Belle, Adam, and some of the other now-human characters from this movie (maybe they come there for a visit like the Feast of Fools). Or, if the CrisisCrossover film proposed above is ever made, perhaps Quasimodo and Adam could become friends over their similar past experiences (being horribly ugly, hidden in a castle/cathedral, falling in love with someone they didn't think could love them back, and [[spoiler: growing up with an abusive father figure]]).
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Originally, this was going to be they ''were'' the miller's family, but [[spoiler: the end of the portal book scene pretty much made that impossible, as Belle's mother dies, and the miller's wife in Hunchback survived (and it could have been [[HandWave handwaved]] that one of their two children died had this not been the case)]]. However, given that this takes place in the 18th century and not the middle ages, it's easy to conclude that after Frollo burned the ''original'' windmill down, it was rebuilt, and a few generations since took it over, thus allowing Maurice (or his wife) to inherit it later.
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Originally, this was going to be they ''were'' the miller's family, but [[spoiler: the end of the portal book scene pretty much made that impossible, as Belle's mother dies, and the miller's wife in Hunchback survived (and it could have been [[HandWave handwaved]] that one of their two children died had this not been the case)]]. However, given that this takes place in the 18th century and not the middle ages, it's easy to conclude that after Frollo burned the ''original'' windmill down, it was rebuilt, and a few generations since took it over, thus allowing Maurice (or his wife) to inherit it later.later.
[[WMG: If a live-action Hunchback of Notre Dame is ever made, the characters from this movie will appear as TheCameo.]]
Either just Belle being seen in the background like in the animated version (implying that she lived in Paris before she and her father moved to Villenueve), or maybe even Belle, Adam, and some of the other now-human characters from this movie (maybe they come there for a visit like the Feast of Fools).
[[WMG: If a live-action Hunchback of Notre Dame is ever made, the characters from this movie will appear as TheCameo.]]
Either just Belle being seen in the background like in the animated version (implying that she lived in Paris before she and her father moved to Villenueve), or maybe even Belle, Adam, and some of the other now-human characters from this movie (maybe they come there for a visit like the Feast of Fools).
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** [[spoiler:'''Confirmed''': The name is never mentioned in the film, but his actor Dan Stevens mentioned the name in an interview. Seeing as Dan can't promote the movie with information that isn't true, it has unofficially been confirmed that the Beast/Prince's name is indeed Adam.]]
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One of my theories about Lefou is that he was born in an asylum as the child of an inmate - which is why he was given the name of 'Lefou' and is so eccentric, even though the stereotype of CampGay wouldn't have been around in late 1700s France. In fact the entire concept would only have existed as a kind of madness. It would also explain why he's so very disturbed about sending Maurice to the madhouse when everybody else goes along with it - he knows they're not nice places. It also would fit in with him being almost wholly illiterate, having never gone to school.
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One of my theories about Lefou is that he was born in an asylum as the child of an inmate - which is why he was given the name of 'Lefou' and is so eccentric, even though the stereotype of CampGay wouldn't have been around in late 1700s France. In fact the entire concept would only have existed as a kind of madness. It would also explain why he's so very disturbed about sending Maurice to the madhouse when everybody else goes along with it - he knows they're not nice places. It also would fit in with him being almost wholly illiterate, having never gone to school.school.
[[WMG: Maurice and Belle are related to the miller's family from The Hunchback of Notre Dame]]
Originally, this was going to be they ''were'' the miller's family, but [[spoiler: the end of the portal book scene pretty much made that impossible, as Belle's mother dies, and the miller's wife in Hunchback survived (and it could have been [[HandWave handwaved]] that one of their two children died had this not been the case)]]. However, given that this takes place in the 18th century and not the middle ages, it's easy to conclude that after Frollo burned the ''original'' windmill down, it was rebuilt, and a few generations since took it over, thus allowing Maurice (or his wife) to inherit it later.
[[WMG: Maurice and Belle are related to the miller's family from The Hunchback of Notre Dame]]
Originally, this was going to be they ''were'' the miller's family, but [[spoiler: the end of the portal book scene pretty much made that impossible, as Belle's mother dies, and the miller's wife in Hunchback survived (and it could have been [[HandWave handwaved]] that one of their two children died had this not been the case)]]. However, given that this takes place in the 18th century and not the middle ages, it's easy to conclude that after Frollo burned the ''original'' windmill down, it was rebuilt, and a few generations since took it over, thus allowing Maurice (or his wife) to inherit it later.
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The leader of the wolves has a scar across its face on the same side as the claw marks across the painting of the father.father.
[[WMG: Gaston saved Lefou's life]]
The reason Lefou dotes on Gaston so much even though he's straight is because Gaston saved Lefou's life in the war. It's already confirmed they fought together.
[[WMG: Lefou's parents]]
One of my theories about Lefou is that he was born in an asylum as the child of an inmate - which is why he was given the name of 'Lefou' and is so eccentric, even though the stereotype of CampGay wouldn't have been around in late 1700s France. In fact the entire concept would only have existed as a kind of madness. It would also explain why he's so very disturbed about sending Maurice to the madhouse when everybody else goes along with it - he knows they're not nice places. It also would fit in with him being almost wholly illiterate, having never gone to school.
[[WMG: Gaston saved Lefou's life]]
The reason Lefou dotes on Gaston so much even though he's straight is because Gaston saved Lefou's life in the war. It's already confirmed they fought together.
[[WMG: Lefou's parents]]
One of my theories about Lefou is that he was born in an asylum as the child of an inmate - which is why he was given the name of 'Lefou' and is so eccentric, even though the stereotype of CampGay wouldn't have been around in late 1700s France. In fact the entire concept would only have existed as a kind of madness. It would also explain why he's so very disturbed about sending Maurice to the madhouse when everybody else goes along with it - he knows they're not nice places. It also would fit in with him being almost wholly illiterate, having never gone to school.
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*[[spoiler: '''Jossed.''' Somewhat - although Belle provides the tools, Maurice is ultimately the one who gets him and Belle out of the paddy-wagon]]
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* Adding to this, they both exist in a world where magical beings go around testing people's kindness disguised as beggars. Maybe the Fairy Godmother and the Enchantress are in cahoots?
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* Adding to this, they both exist in a world where magical beings go around testing people's kindness disguised as beggars. Maybe the Fairy Godmother and the Enchantress are in cahoots?cahoots?
[[WMG: The wolves represent the Prince's cruel father.]]
The leader of the wolves has a scar across its face on the same side as the claw marks across the painting of the father.
[[WMG: The wolves represent the Prince's cruel father.]]
The leader of the wolves has a scar across its face on the same side as the claw marks across the painting of the father.
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In the final trailer Belle learns from the household servents that when the enchanted rose loses all of its petals the Beast and the servants remain in their current physical form forever. Lumiere and Cogsworth, though, do not tell Belle that she and the Beast have to love each other, as Beast and Belle have to have a spark between them if the curse is to be broken.
* '''Confirmed.'''
* '''Confirmed.'''
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In the final trailer Belle learns from the household servents servants that when the enchanted rose loses all of its petals the Beast and the servants remain in their current physical form forever. Lumiere and Cogsworth, though, do not tell Belle that she and the Beast have to love each other, as Beast and Belle have to have a spark between them if the curse is to be broken.
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''' To some extent Belle is told that the curse and the rose are linked, but she doesn't learn how to lift the curse.
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** Seemingly '''confirmed''' by the director. Whether or not he is redeemed at the end, Lefou will struggle with sexuality due to his attraction to Gaston. It's not much, but it seems like more of an arc than the 1991 film gave him.
** '''Confirmed.''' The movie gives him an entire arc of realizing that Gaston is a much worse person than he thought he was, and that he can do better.
** '''Confirmed.''' The movie gives him an entire arc of realizing that Gaston is a much worse person than he thought he was, and that he can do better.
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** During "Be Our Guest" there are many peacock dusters as well as Plumette. It's likely that the debutantes were them.
