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Both were {{Canad|aEh}}ian {{teen idol}}s in the early '90s. They both had over-the-top [[TheEighties '80s]] fashion when they were famous (TheEighties reached Canada late). Both have [[CanonDiscontinuity disowned their teen pop pasts]] and become a lot darker and [[DeadpanSnarker snarkier]] since. Robin was in a relationship with a man who appeared in one of her music videos, and the man that inspired Alanis to write ''Jagged Little Pill'' was (according to rumor; see above) someone who appeared in one of her videos. Robin is basically Alanis if she didn't continue making music.

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Both were {{Canad|aEh}}ian Canadian {{teen idol}}s in the early '90s. They both had over-the-top [[TheEighties '80s]] fashion when they were famous (TheEighties reached Canada late). Both have [[CanonDiscontinuity disowned their teen pop pasts]] and become a lot darker and [[DeadpanSnarker snarkier]] since. Robin was in a relationship with a man who appeared in one of her music videos, and the man that inspired Alanis to write ''Jagged Little Pill'' was (according to rumor; see above) someone who appeared in one of her videos. Robin is basically Alanis if she didn't continue making music.
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he wasn't an uncle


** I second Coulier. I mean come on, it's Uncle Joey here, and heck, he says it's about him. Case closed.

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** I second Coulier. I mean come on, it's Uncle Joey here, and heck, he says it's about him. Case closed.

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Ok. WMG is one thing. Openly accusing someone of murder or solicitation thereof is out of line and could get us sued. No.


* Music/TupacShakur. It turns out that they had a secret fling (sometime in 1994 or '95, before the "Music/JaggedLittlePill" album came out) that Alanis thought was something more than a one-night stand. When Tupac rejected her further advances, she became enraged and wrote this song. Worse, over a year after "You Oughta Know" came out, Alanis was still unhinged and insanely angry at Tupac...so she decided to punish him. That's right, Music/AlanisMorissette is either the one who shot Tupac, or she at least ''hired'' the person who did. Writing an angry song wasn't enough. She wanted brutal revenge.
** Wait. What? Source on the Tupac, please.

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* Music/TupacShakur. It turns out that they had a secret fling (sometime in 1994 or '95, before the "Music/JaggedLittlePill" album came out) that Alanis thought was something more than a one-night stand. When Tupac rejected her further advances, she became enraged and wrote this song. Worse, over a year after "You Oughta Know" came out, Alanis was still unhinged and insanely angry at Tupac...so she decided to punish him. That's right, Music/AlanisMorissette is either the one who shot Tupac, or she at least ''hired'' the person who did. Writing an angry song wasn't enough. She wanted brutal revenge.
** Wait. What? Source on the Tupac, please.
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* Music/TupacShakur. It turns out that they had a secret fling (sometime in 1994 or '95, before the "Music/JaggedLittlePill" album came out) that Alanis thought was something more than a one-night stand. When Tupac rejected her further advances, she became enraged and wrote this song. Worse, over a year after "You Oughta Know" came out, Alanis was still unhinged and insanely angry at Tupac...so she decided to punish him. That's right, AlanisMorissette is either the one who shot Tupac, or she at least ''hired'' the person who did. Writing an angry song wasn't enough. She wanted brutal revenge.

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* Music/TupacShakur. It turns out that they had a secret fling (sometime in 1994 or '95, before the "Music/JaggedLittlePill" album came out) that Alanis thought was something more than a one-night stand. When Tupac rejected her further advances, she became enraged and wrote this song. Worse, over a year after "You Oughta Know" came out, Alanis was still unhinged and insanely angry at Tupac...so she decided to punish him. That's right, AlanisMorissette Music/AlanisMorissette is either the one who shot Tupac, or she at least ''hired'' the person who did. Writing an angry song wasn't enough. She wanted brutal revenge.
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The lyrics are decidedly ''not'' ironic, even though the song suggests that they ''are''. This was her goal all along: ironically, the song that is so often called out for not being ironic when it is supposed to be ironic ''is'' ironic simply because the song is a failed attempt at irony. After all, IsntItIronic that "rain on your wedding day" isn't ironic even though she claims it is? [[TheChessmaster Well played]], AlanisMorissette.

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The lyrics are decidedly ''not'' ironic, even though the song suggests that they ''are''. This was her goal all along: ironically, the song that is so often called out for not being ironic when it is supposed to be ironic ''is'' ironic simply because the song is a failed attempt at irony. After all, IsntItIronic that "rain on your wedding day" isn't ironic even though she claims it is? [[TheChessmaster Well played]], AlanisMorissette.Music/AlanisMorissette.
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* Matt [=LeBlanc=], who played Joey Tribbiani on ''{{Friends}}'', and appeared in one of Alanis' early videos.

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* Matt [=LeBlanc=], who played Joey Tribbiani on ''{{Friends}}'', ''Series/{{Friends}}'', and appeared in one of Alanis' early videos.
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* Dave Coulier, who played Joey Gladstone on ''FullHouse''. He started dating Alanis in 1992, when the two met at a hockey game. Coulier himself believes that the song is about him, claiming that the lyrics [[http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/oughta.asp hit very close to home]].

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* Dave Coulier, who played Joey Gladstone on ''FullHouse''.''Series/FullHouse''. He started dating Alanis in 1992, when the two met at a hockey game. Coulier himself believes that the song is about him, claiming that the lyrics [[http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/oughta.asp hit very close to home]].



* Bob Saget, also of ''FullHouse''. He denies having ever been in a relationship with Alanis, and agrees with the idea that "You Oughta Know" is about Coulier.

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* Bob Saget, also of ''FullHouse''.''Series/FullHouse''. He denies having ever been in a relationship with Alanis, and agrees with the idea that "You Oughta Know" is about Coulier.
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* TupacShakur. It turns out that they had a secret fling (sometime in 1994 or '95, before the "Jagged Little Pill" album came out) that Alanis thought was something more than a one-night stand. When Tupac rejected her further advances, she became enraged and wrote this song. Worse, over a year after "You Oughta Know" came out, Alanis was still unhinged and insanely angry at Tupac...so she decided to punish him. That's right, AlanisMorissette is either the one who shot Tupac, or she at least ''hired'' the person who did. Writing an angry song wasn't enough. She wanted brutal revenge.

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* TupacShakur. Music/TupacShakur. It turns out that they had a secret fling (sometime in 1994 or '95, before the "Jagged Little Pill" "Music/JaggedLittlePill" album came out) that Alanis thought was something more than a one-night stand. When Tupac rejected her further advances, she became enraged and wrote this song. Worse, over a year after "You Oughta Know" came out, Alanis was still unhinged and insanely angry at Tupac...so she decided to punish him. That's right, AlanisMorissette is either the one who shot Tupac, or she at least ''hired'' the person who did. Writing an angry song wasn't enough. She wanted brutal revenge.
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* Wait. What? Source on the Tupac, please.

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* ** Wait. What? Source on the Tupac, please.



* This is verified by the commentary on Series/HowIMetYourMother, when the writers say in the Robin Sparkles episode they were thinking about bringing Alanis on and having them be a pop duo together in Canada, but it never worked out.
* Confirmed once and for all in season 8 when it was revealed that Robin went through an angsty stage and remade herself as Robin Daggers, a full-on parody of ''Jagged Little Pill''-era Morissette. Unlike with Morissette, this appeared to have been a career ender for Robin.

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* This is verified by the commentary on Series/HowIMetYourMother, ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'', when the writers say in the Robin Sparkles episode they were thinking about bringing Alanis on for the Robin Sparkles episode and having them be a pop duo together in Canada, but it never worked out.
* Confirmed once and for all in season 8 when it was revealed that Robin went through an angsty stage and remade herself as [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ-pEeRDv90 Robin Daggers, Daggers]], a full-on parody of ''Jagged Little Pill''-era Morissette. Unlike with Morissette, this appeared to have been a career ender CreatorKiller for Robin.

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\n* Confirmed once and for all in season 8 when it was revealed that Robin went through an angsty stage and remade herself as Robin Daggers, a full-on parody of ''Jagged Little Pill''-era Morissette. Unlike with Morissette, this appeared to have been a career ender for Robin.
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* Wait. What? Source on the Tupac, please.
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* TupacShakur. It turns out that they had a secret fling that Alanis thought was something more than a one-night stand. When Tupac rejected her further advances, she became enraged and wrote this song. Worse, AlanisMorissette is either the one who shot Tupac, or she at least hired the person who did. Writing an angry song wasn't enough. She wanted brutal revenge.

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* TupacShakur. It turns out that they had a secret fling (sometime in 1994 or '95, before the "Jagged Little Pill" album came out) that Alanis thought was something more than a one-night stand. When Tupac rejected her further advances, she became enraged and wrote this song. Worse, over a year after "You Oughta Know" came out, Alanis was still unhinged and insanely angry at Tupac...so she decided to punish him. That's right, AlanisMorissette is either the one who shot Tupac, or she at least hired ''hired'' the person who did. Writing an angry song wasn't enough. She wanted brutal revenge.
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* TupacShakur. It turns out that they had a secret fling that Alanis thought was something more than a one-night stand. When Tupac rejected her further advances, she became enraged and wrote this song. Worse, AlanisMorissette is either the one who shot Tupac, or she at least hired the person who did. Writing an angry song wasn't enough. She wanted brutal revenge.
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[[WMG: [[HowIMetYourMother Robin Scherbatsky]] is an AlternateUniverse version of Alanis.]]

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[[WMG: [[HowIMetYourMother [[Series/HowIMetYourMother Robin Scherbatsky]] is an AlternateUniverse version of Alanis.]]



* This is verified by the commentary on HowIMetYourMother, when the writers say in the Robin Sparkles episode they were thinking about bringing Alanis on and having them be a pop duo together in Canada, but it never worked out.


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* This is verified by the commentary on HowIMetYourMother, Series/HowIMetYourMother, when the writers say in the Robin Sparkles episode they were thinking about bringing Alanis on and having them be a pop duo together in Canada, but it never worked out.

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The lyrics are decidedly ''not'' ironic, even though the song suggests that they''are''. This was her goal all along: ironically, the song that is so often called out for not being ironic when it is supposed to be ironic ''is'' ironic simply because the song is a failed attempt at irony. After all, IsntItIronic that "rain on your wedding day" isn't ironic even though she claims it is? [[TheChessmaster Well played]], AlanisMorissette.

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The lyrics are decidedly ''not'' ironic, even though the song suggests that they''are''.they ''are''. This was her goal all along: ironically, the song that is so often called out for not being ironic when it is supposed to be ironic ''is'' ironic simply because the song is a failed attempt at irony. After all, IsntItIronic that "rain on your wedding day" isn't ironic even though she claims it is? [[TheChessmaster Well played]], AlanisMorissette.
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[[WMG: IsntItIronic IS actually ironic.]]
The lyrics are decidedly ''not'' ironic, even though the song suggests that they''are''. This was her goal all along: ironically, the song that is so often called out for not being ironic when it is supposed to be ironic ''is'' ironic simply because the song is a failed attempt at irony. After all, IsntItIronic that "rain on your wedding day" isn't ironic even though she claims it is? [[TheChessmaster Well played]], AlanisMorissette.
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* This is verified by the commentary on HowIMetYourMother, when the writers say in the Robin Sparkles episode they were thinking about bringing Alanis on and having them be a pop duo together in Canada, but it never worked out.
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** Alanis has specifically disavowed this one, however, word is that her song "Hands Clean" is about her relationship with Coulier.
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[[WMG: [[HowIMetYourMother Robin Scherbatsky]] is an AlternateUniverse version of Alanis.]]

Both were {{Canad|aEh}}ian {{teen idol}}s in the early '90s. They both had over-the-top [[TheEighties '80s]] fashion when they were famous (TheEighties reached Canada late). Both have [[CanonDiscontinuity disowned their teen pop pasts]] and become a lot darker and [[DeadpanSnarker snarkier]] since. Robin was in a relationship with a man who appeared in one of her music videos, and the man that inspired Alanis to write ''Jagged Little Pill'' was (according to rumor; see above) someone who appeared in one of her videos. Robin is basically Alanis if she didn't continue making music.

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** I second Coulier. I mean come on, it's Uncle Joey here, and heck, he says it's about him. Case closed.



**I second Coulier. I mean come on, it's Uncle Joey here, and heck, he says it's about him. Case closed.
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**I second Coulier. I mean come on, it's Uncle Joey here, and heck, he says it's about him. Case closed.

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