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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a black SeaMonster or serpent from a distance but is actually made from shiny stones, future stories can depict the Isles as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture that screams "we are so much better than you" and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage. The kingdom itself could be fabulously wealthy, possibly even more so than Arendelle, thanks to its trade deals and the fact that many of the king's daughters-in-law are from other kingdoms. This could leave our heroes (Honeymaren, Ryder, Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil dumbstruck]] on why Hans would want to seize control of another country when he's from a place that's filthy rich.\\

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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a black SeaMonster or serpent from a distance but is actually made from shiny stones, future stories can depict the Isles as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture that screams "we are so much better than you" and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage. The kingdom itself could be fabulously wealthy, possibly even more so than Arendelle, thanks to its trade deals and the fact that many of the king's daughters-in-law are from other kingdoms. This could leave our heroes (Honeymaren, Ryder, Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil dumbstruck]] on why Hans would want to seize control of another country when he's from a place that's his homeland is filthy rich.\\
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However, while everything is elegant and looks beautiful on the outside, the inside is hollow and cold. Even the royal family might fake it, pretending to be a big, happy family, when in reality, they are RoyallyScrewedUp. The king's 13 sons don't get along with each other and with their own spouses, while the king of the Southern Isles is neglectful of his wife. The intense SiblingRivalry between the sons is something the heroes would consider counterproductive and unacceptable, leading to the younger sons developing a case of InferioritySuperiorityComplex, and is a big reason that the royal family has become so dysfunctional. This even extends beyond the royal family.\\

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However, while everything is elegant and looks beautiful on the outside, the inside is hollow and cold. Even the royal family might fake it, pretending to be a big, happy family, when in reality, they are RoyallyScrewedUp. The king's 13 sons don't get along with each other and with their own spouses, while the king of the Southern Isles is neglectful of his wife. The intense SiblingRivalry between the sons 13 brothers is something the heroes sisters would consider counterproductive and unacceptable, leading to the younger sons developing a case of InferioritySuperiorityComplex, and is a big reason that the royal family has become so dysfunctional. This even extends beyond the royal family.\\
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** Iduna's heritage as a member of the Northuldran tribe and why Agnarr married her despite her background. Given that King Runeard looked down at the Northuldra and probably wouldn't have accepted her as his daughter-in-law if he were to be alive, the Westergaards could make similar snobbish remarks about the sisters not being pure royal blooded.

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** Iduna's heritage as a member of the Northuldran tribe and why Agnarr married her despite her background. Given that King Runeard looked down at the Northuldra and probably wouldn't have accepted her as his daughter-in-law if he were to be alive, the Westergaards could make similar snobbish remarks about rudely call the sisters not being pure royal blooded.[[Literature/HarryPotter "half-breeds."]]
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However, while everything is elegant and looks beautiful on the outside, the inside is hollow and cold. Even the royal family might fake it, pretending to be a big, happy family, when in reality, they are RoyallyScrewedUp. The king's 13 sons don't get along with each other and with their own spouses, while the king of the Southern Isles is neglectful of his wife. The intense SiblingRivalry between the sons is something the heroes would consider counterproductive, leading to the younger sons developing a case of InferioritySuperiorityComplex, and is a big reason that the royal family has become so dysfunctional. This dysfunction even extends beyond the royal family.\\

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However, while everything is elegant and looks beautiful on the outside, the inside is hollow and cold. Even the royal family might fake it, pretending to be a big, happy family, when in reality, they are RoyallyScrewedUp. The king's 13 sons don't get along with each other and with their own spouses, while the king of the Southern Isles is neglectful of his wife. The intense SiblingRivalry between the sons is something the heroes would consider counterproductive, counterproductive and unacceptable, leading to the younger sons developing a case of InferioritySuperiorityComplex, and is a big reason that the royal family has become so dysfunctional. This dysfunction even extends beyond the royal family.\\



The locals might pretend to be appreciative of the Westergaards (the Isles' royal clan), but that's just the tip of the iceberg. The culture might preach egalitarianism, but even this could be fake, as it's actually a society whose nobility holds the real power, while the lower classes might feel left out. Guards may by stationed everywhere not for the protection of the citizens, but as a quiet warning of what they can say about the royal family and to intimidate them into submission. Even the kingdom's judicial system could be described as notoriously corrupt and inefficient, with {{Kangaroo Court}}s and harsh sentences for criminals.\\

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The locals might pretend to be appreciative of the Westergaards (the Isles' royal clan), but that's just the tip of the iceberg. The culture might preach egalitarianism, but even this could be fake, as it's actually a society whose nobility holds the real power, while the lower classes might feel left out. Guards may by stationed everywhere not for the protection of the citizens, but as a quiet warning of what they can say about the royal family and to intimidate them into submission. Even the kingdom's judicial system could be described as notoriously corrupt and inefficient, with {{Kangaroo Court}}s and harsh sentences for criminals. The capital itself could be a WretchedHive, a stark contrast to the liveliness seen in Arendelle.\\



The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited, the heroes are left shocked and outraged on how and why such a society, despite all its wealth and power, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the cynical and hypocritical nature of their culture comes at a great shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't be able to understand what they meant, and [[InsaneTrollLogic may even think]] they are rubbing his failures in his face. Hans is also left confused as to how the sisters, Kristoff and the Northuldrans found happiness despite their humble backgrounds while he remains miserable despite coming from a country that's quite wealthy, but doesn't understand that his self-loathing and hatred prevent him from realizing what makes them happy.

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited, the heroes are left shocked and outraged on how and why such a society, [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite all its wealth and power, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the cynical and hypocritical nature of their culture comes at a great huge shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't be able to understand what they meant, and [[InsaneTrollLogic may even think]] they are rubbing his failures in his face. Hans is also left confused as to how the sisters, Kristoff and the Northuldrans found happiness despite their humble backgrounds modest appearance while he remains miserable despite coming from a country that's quite wealthy, but doesn't understand that his self-loathing and hatred prevent him from realizing what makes them happy.
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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited, the heroes are left shocked and outraged on how and why such a society, despite all its wealth and power, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the cynical and hypocritical nature of their culture comes at a great shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't be able to understand what they meant, and [[InsaneTrollLogic may even think]] they are rubbing his failures in his face.

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited, the heroes are left shocked and outraged on how and why such a society, despite all its wealth and power, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the cynical and hypocritical nature of their culture comes at a great shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't be able to understand what they meant, and [[InsaneTrollLogic may even think]] they are rubbing his failures in his face. Hans is also left confused as to how the sisters, Kristoff and the Northuldrans found happiness despite their humble backgrounds while he remains miserable despite coming from a country that's quite wealthy, but doesn't understand that his self-loathing and hatred prevent him from realizing what makes them happy.

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However, while everything is elegant and looks beautiful on the outside, the inside is hollow and cold. Even the royal family might fake it, pretending to be a big, happy family, when in reality, they are RoyallyScrewedUp. The king's 13 sons don't get along with each other and with their own spouses, while the king of the Southern Isles is neglectful of his wife. The locals might pretend to be appreciative of the Westergaards (the Isles' royal clan), but that's just the tip of the iceberg. The culture might preach egalitarianism, but even this could be fake, as it's actually a society whose nobility holds the real power, while the lower classes might feel left out. Guards may by stationed everywhere not for the protection of the citizens, but as a quiet warning of what they can say about the royal family and to intimidate them into submission.\\

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However, while everything is elegant and looks beautiful on the outside, the inside is hollow and cold. Even the royal family might fake it, pretending to be a big, happy family, when in reality, they are RoyallyScrewedUp. The king's 13 sons don't get along with each other and with their own spouses, while the king of the Southern Isles is neglectful of his wife. The locals might pretend to be appreciative of intense SiblingRivalry between the Westergaards (the Isles' royal clan), but that's just sons is something the tip of heroes would consider counterproductive, leading to the iceberg. The culture might preach egalitarianism, but even this could be fake, as it's actually younger sons developing a society whose nobility holds the real power, while the lower classes might feel left out. Guards may by stationed everywhere not for the protection case of the citizens, but as InferioritySuperiorityComplex, and is a quiet warning of what they can say about big reason that the royal family and to intimidate them into submission.has become so dysfunctional. This dysfunction even extends beyond the royal family.\\



The locals might pretend to be appreciative of the Westergaards (the Isles' royal clan), but that's just the tip of the iceberg. The culture might preach egalitarianism, but even this could be fake, as it's actually a society whose nobility holds the real power, while the lower classes might feel left out. Guards may by stationed everywhere not for the protection of the citizens, but as a quiet warning of what they can say about the royal family and to intimidate them into submission. Even the kingdom's judicial system could be described as notoriously corrupt and inefficient, with {{Kangaroo Court}}s and harsh sentences for criminals.\\
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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited, the heroes are left shocked and outraged on how and why such a society, despite all its wealth and power, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the people have chosen to accept the cynical nature of their culture comes at a great shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't be able to understand what they meant, and [[InsaneTrollLogic may even think]] they are rubbing his failures in his face.

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited, the heroes are left shocked and outraged on how and why such a society, despite all its wealth and power, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the people locals have chosen to accept the cynical and hypocritical nature of their culture comes at a great shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't be able to understand what they meant, and [[InsaneTrollLogic may even think]] they are rubbing his failures in his face.

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However, while everything is elegant and looks beautiful on the outside, the inside is hollow and cold. Even the royal family might fake it, pretending to be a big, happy family, when in reality, they are RoyallyScrewedUp. The king's 13 sons don't get along with each other and with their own spouses, while the king of the Southern Isles is neglectful of his wife. The locals might pretend to be appreciative of the Westergaards (the Isles' royal clan), but that's just the tip of the iceberg. The culture might preach egalitarianism, but even this could be fake, as it's actually a society whose nobility holds the real power, while the lower classes might feel left out.\\

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However, while everything is elegant and looks beautiful on the outside, the inside is hollow and cold. Even the royal family might fake it, pretending to be a big, happy family, when in reality, they are RoyallyScrewedUp. The king's 13 sons don't get along with each other and with their own spouses, while the king of the Southern Isles is neglectful of his wife. The locals might pretend to be appreciative of the Westergaards (the Isles' royal clan), but that's just the tip of the iceberg. The culture might preach egalitarianism, but even this could be fake, as it's actually a society whose nobility holds the real power, while the lower classes might feel left out. Guards may by stationed everywhere not for the protection of the citizens, but as a quiet warning of what they can say about the royal family and to intimidate them into submission.\\

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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a black SeaMonster or serpent from a distance but is actually made from shiny stones, future stories can depict the Isles as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture that screams "we are so much better than you" and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage. The kingdom itself could be fabulously wealthy, possibly even more so than Arendelle, thanks to its trade deals and the fact that many of the king's daughters-in-law are from other kingdoms. This could leave our heroes (Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil dumbstruck]] on why Hans would want to seize control of another country when he's from a place that's filthy rich.\\

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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a black SeaMonster or serpent from a distance but is actually made from shiny stones, future stories can depict the Isles as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture that screams "we are so much better than you" and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage. The kingdom itself could be fabulously wealthy, possibly even more so than Arendelle, thanks to its trade deals and the fact that many of the king's daughters-in-law are from other kingdoms. This could leave our heroes (Elsa, (Honeymaren, Ryder, Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil dumbstruck]] on why Hans would want to seize control of another country when he's from a place that's filthy rich.\\


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** Honeymaren and Ryder's background as Northuldrans. Just as Iduna, the king could make insulting remarks about their heritage or their connection to magic.
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** Iduna's heritage and why Agnarr would have married her despite her background. She is a member of the Northuldran tribe. Given that King Runeard was biased about the Northuldra and probably wouldn't have accepted her as his daughter-in-law if he were to be alive, the Westergaards could make similar snobbish remarks about the sisters not being pure royal blooded.

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** Iduna's heritage as a member of the Northuldran tribe and why Agnarr would have married her despite her background. She is a member of the Northuldran tribe. Given that King Runeard was biased about looked down at the Northuldra and probably wouldn't have accepted her as his daughter-in-law if he were to be alive, the Westergaards could make similar snobbish remarks about the sisters not being pure royal blooded.
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** The sisters' heritage. They are Northuldra on their mother's side.
** Kristoff's past as a Sami ice harvester who slept with a reindeer or his poverty. The king or his sons may even [[EvilCannotComprehendGood think]] he married Anna only [[GoldDigger for the riches]] and not out of true love.

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** The sisters' heritage. They are Iduna's heritage and why Agnarr would have married her despite her background. She is a member of the Northuldran tribe. Given that King Runeard was biased about the Northuldra on their mother's side.
and probably wouldn't have accepted her as his daughter-in-law if he were to be alive, the Westergaards could make similar snobbish remarks about the sisters not being pure royal blooded.
** Kristoff's past as a Sami ice harvester who slept with a reindeer or his poverty. The king or his sons may even [[EvilCannotComprehendGood think]] he married Anna only [[GoldDigger for the riches]] and not out of true love.love, or that he doesn't deserve marrying into a royal family.



The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. They may even comment on why such a society, despite all its wealth and power, could tolerate, promote and even practice great injustices. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse comment]] to him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't be able to understand what they meant.

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. They may even comment Commenting on all of the places they've visited, the heroes are left shocked and outraged on how and why such a society, despite all its wealth and power, could tolerate, promote promote, and even practice great injustices. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse comment]] to tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't be able to understand what they meant.
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** Why Arendelle is being led by women when men are the better choice.
** Like the Duke of Weselton, the Southern Islanders may be [[FantasticRacism prejudiced]] against magic-users after learning about Elsa's ice powers.

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** Why Arendelle is being led by women when women, and suggest men are the better choice.
** Magic. Like the Duke of Weselton, the Southern Islanders may be [[FantasticRacism prejudiced]] against magic-users after learning about Elsa's ice powers.
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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse comment]] to him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't be able to understand what they meant.

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. They may even comment on why such a society, despite all its wealth and power, could tolerate, promote and even practice great injustices. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse comment]] to him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't be able to understand what they meant.
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The king, some of his sons, or even the locals may make [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain insensitive jabs]] about:
** Why Arendelle is being led by women when men are the better choice.
** Like the Duke of Weselton, the Southern Islanders may be [[FantasticRacism prejudiced]] against magic-users after learning about Elsa's ice powers.
** The sisters' heritage. They are Northuldra on their mother's side.
** Kristoff's past as a Sami ice harvester who slept with a reindeer or his poverty. The king or his sons may even [[EvilCannotComprehendGood think]] he married Anna only [[GoldDigger for the riches]] and not out of true love.
** Olaf's naivety.
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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse comment]] to him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind.

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse comment]] to him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't be able to understand what they meant.
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It seems most of them are violent, and none seem to be fond of him. Once the king dies or steps down, Caleb's legitimacy as heir will be challenged and before long, the kingdom will end up looking like [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Westeros]]. As the infighting rages on, Hans will secretly offer his services to the highest bidder, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder changing loyalties as different factions gain the upper hand]], until one of his brothers runs a sword through him. Elsa and Anna, along with the other kingdoms, will end up deploying their navies to intervene and defend their kingdoms as some of the brothers attempt to conquer nearby countries to consolidate their base. In the end, the entire Westergaard clan will end in bloodshed, the Southern Isles will be absorbed into Arendelle, and the people of the Southern Isles will enjoy a new age of peace and prosperity, heralding Elsa and Anna as the liberators who overthrew the hated Westergaard dynasty.

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It seems most of them are violent, and none seem to be fond of him. Once the king dies or steps down, Caleb's legitimacy as heir will be challenged and before long, the kingdom will end up looking like [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Westeros]]. As the infighting rages on, Hans will secretly offer his services to the highest bidder, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder changing loyalties as different factions gain the upper hand]], until one of his brothers runs a sword through him. Elsa and Anna, along with the other kingdoms, will end up deploying their navies to intervene and defend their kingdoms themselves as some of the brothers attempt to conquer nearby countries to consolidate their base. In the end, the entire Westergaard clan will end in bloodshed, the Southern Isles will be absorbed into Arendelle, and the people of the Southern Isles will enjoy a new age of peace and prosperity, heralding Elsa and Anna as the liberators who overthrew the hated Westergaard dynasty.
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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure.

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse comment]] to him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind.
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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a black SeaMonster or serpent from a distance but is actually made from the shiny stones found on the Isles, future stories can depict the castle (and perhaps the whole city) as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture that screams "we are so much better than you" and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage. The kingdom itself could be fabulously wealthy, possibly even more so than Arendelle, thanks to its trade deals and the fact that many of the king's daughters-in-law are from other kingdoms. This could leave our heroes (Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil dumbstruck]] on why Hans would want to seize control of another country when he's from a place that's filthy rich.\\

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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a black SeaMonster or serpent from a distance but is actually made from the shiny stones found on the Isles, stones, future stories can depict the castle (and perhaps the whole city) Isles as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture that screams "we are so much better than you" and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage. The kingdom itself could be fabulously wealthy, possibly even more so than Arendelle, thanks to its trade deals and the fact that many of the king's daughters-in-law are from other kingdoms. This could leave our heroes (Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil dumbstruck]] on why Hans would want to seize control of another country when he's from a place that's filthy rich.\\
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The heroes might lampshade on the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure.

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure.
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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a black sea dragon or serpent from a distance but is actually made from the shiny stones found on the Isles, future stories can depict the castle (and perhaps the whole city) as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture in white, red and gold that screams "we are so much better than you" and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage.\\

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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a black sea dragon SeaMonster or serpent from a distance but is actually made from the shiny stones found on the Isles, future stories can depict the castle (and perhaps the whole city) as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture in white, red and gold that screams "we are so much better than you" and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage.cottage. The kingdom itself could be fabulously wealthy, possibly even more so than Arendelle, thanks to its trade deals and the fact that many of the king's daughters-in-law are from other kingdoms. This could leave our heroes (Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil dumbstruck]] on why Hans would want to seize control of another country when he's from a place that's filthy rich.\\



Everything is elegant and looks beautiful on the outside, but the inside is hollow and cold. Even the royal family might fake it, pretending to be a big, happy family, when in reality, they don't get along with each other. The locals might pretend to be appreciative of the Westergaards (the Isles' ruling clan), but that's just the tip of the iceberg. The culture might preach egalitarianism, but it's just a mask for a society whose nobility holds the real power, while the lower classes might feel left out.\\

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Everything However, while everything is elegant and looks beautiful on the outside, but the inside is hollow and cold. Even the royal family might fake it, pretending to be a big, happy family, when in reality, they are RoyallyScrewedUp. The king's 13 sons don't get along with each other. other and with their own spouses, while the king of the Southern Isles is neglectful of his wife. The locals might pretend to be appreciative of the Westergaards (the Isles' ruling royal clan), but that's just the tip of the iceberg. The culture might preach egalitarianism, but even this could be fake, as it's just a mask for actually a society whose nobility holds the real power, while the lower classes might feel left out.\\



The heroes (Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) might also lampshade on the general cynicism, two-facedness, and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure.

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The heroes (Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) might also lampshade on the general cynicism, two-facedness, cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure.
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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a serpent from a distance but is actually made from the shiny black stones found on the Isles, future stories can depict the castle (and perhaps the whole city) as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture in white, red and gold that screams "we are so much better than you" and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage.\\

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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a black sea dragon or serpent from a distance but is actually made from the shiny black stones found on the Isles, future stories can depict the castle (and perhaps the whole city) as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture in white, red and gold that screams "we are so much better than you" and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage.\\
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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a serpent from a distance but is actually made from the shiny black stones found on the Isles, future stories can depict the royal castle (and perhaps the whole city) as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture in white, red and gold, that screams "we are so much better than you," and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage.\\

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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a serpent from a distance but is actually made from the shiny black stones found on the Isles, future stories can depict the royal castle (and perhaps the whole city) as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture in white, red and gold, gold that screams "we are so much better than you," you" and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage.\\
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WordOfGod has confirmed that Hans's older brothers were NotSoDifferent from Hans, combined with the fact that the book revealed that their father has turned the Southern Isles into a corrupt and totalitarian dictatorship. Once the king dies or steps down, Caleb's legitimacy as heir will be challenged and before long, the kingdom will end up looking like [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Westeros]]. As the infighting rages on, Hans will secretly offer his services to the highest bidder, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder changing loyalties as different factions gain the upper hand]], until one of his brothers runs a sword through him. Elsa and Anna, along with the other kingdoms, will end up deploying their navies to intervene and defend their kingdoms as some of the brothers attempt to conquer nearby countries to consolidate their base. In the end, the entire Westergaard clan will end in bloodshed, the Southern Isles will be absorbed into Arendelle, and the people of the Southern Isles will enjoy a new age of peace and prosperity, heralding Elsa and Anna as the liberators who overthrew the hated Westergaard dynasty.

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WordOfGod has confirmed that Hans's older brothers were NotSoDifferent from Hans, combined with the fact that the book revealed that their father has turned the Southern Isles into a corrupt It seems most of them are violent, and totalitarian dictatorship.none seem to be fond of him. Once the king dies or steps down, Caleb's legitimacy as heir will be challenged and before long, the kingdom will end up looking like [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Westeros]]. As the infighting rages on, Hans will secretly offer his services to the highest bidder, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder changing loyalties as different factions gain the upper hand]], until one of his brothers runs a sword through him. Elsa and Anna, along with the other kingdoms, will end up deploying their navies to intervene and defend their kingdoms as some of the brothers attempt to conquer nearby countries to consolidate their base. In the end, the entire Westergaard clan will end in bloodshed, the Southern Isles will be absorbed into Arendelle, and the people of the Southern Isles will enjoy a new age of peace and prosperity, heralding Elsa and Anna as the liberators who overthrew the hated Westergaard dynasty.

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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a serpent from a distance but is actually made from the shiny black stones found on the Isles, future stories can depict the royal castle (and perhaps the whole city) as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture in white, red and gold, that screams "we are so much better than you," and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage.

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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a serpent from a distance but is actually made from the shiny black stones found on the Isles, future stories can depict the royal castle (and perhaps the whole city) as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture in white, red and gold, that screams "we are so much better than you," and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage. \\



Everything is elegant and looks beautiful on the outside, but the inside is hollow and cold. Even the royal family might fake it, pretending to be a big, happy family, when in reality, they don't get along with each other. The locals might pretend to be appreciative of the Westergaards (the Isles' ruling clan), but that would only be another facade.

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Everything is elegant and looks beautiful on the outside, but the inside is hollow and cold. Even the royal family might fake it, pretending to be a big, happy family, when in reality, they don't get along with each other. The locals might pretend to be appreciative of the Westergaards (the Isles' ruling clan), but that would only be another facade.that's just the tip of the iceberg. The culture might preach egalitarianism, but it's just a mask for a society whose nobility holds the real power, while the lower classes might feel left out.\\



The heroes (Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) might also lampshade on the general cynicism and emptiness surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. In essence, the Southern Isles would still be a CrapsackWorld despite the facade it puts on.

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The heroes (Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) might also lampshade on the general cynicism cynicism, two-facedness, and emptiness duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. In essence, the Southern Isles would still be a CrapsackWorld despite the facade it puts on.adventure.

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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a serpent from a distance but is actually made from the shiny black stones found on the Isles, future stories can depict the royal castle (and perhaps the whole city) as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture in white, red and gold, that screams "we are so much better than you," and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage. Everything is elegant and looks beautiful on the outside, but the inside is hollow and cold. Even the royal family might fake it, pretending to be a happy family, but actually don't get along with each other.

The heroes (Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) might also lampshade on the general cynicism and emptiness surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure.

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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a serpent from a distance but is actually made from the shiny black stones found on the Isles, future stories can depict the royal castle (and perhaps the whole city) as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture in white, red and gold, that screams "we are so much better than you," and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage.
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Everything is elegant and looks beautiful on the outside, but the inside is hollow and cold. Even the royal family might fake it, pretending to be a big, happy family, but actually when in reality, they don't get along with each other.

other. The locals might pretend to be appreciative of the Westergaards (the Isles' ruling clan), but that would only be another facade.
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The heroes (Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) might also lampshade on the general cynicism and emptiness surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. In essence, the Southern Isles would still be a CrapsackWorld despite the facade it puts on.
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* Hans' mother, the Queen of the Southern Isles, is very much like Ursa, as both are {{Broken Bird}}s who care for their children, but are forced to see their older ones pick on their youngest siblings, and are pretty much wed to men who don't even care for them.

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* Hans' mother, the Queen of the Southern Isles, is very much like Ursa, as both are {{Broken Bird}}s who care for their children, but are forced to see their older ones pick on their youngest siblings, and are pretty much wed to men who don't even care for them.them.

[[WMG:Caleb's legitimacy will be challenged by his brothers, causing the kingdom to erupt into CivilWar.]]
WordOfGod has confirmed that Hans's older brothers were NotSoDifferent from Hans, combined with the fact that the book revealed that their father has turned the Southern Isles into a corrupt and totalitarian dictatorship. Once the king dies or steps down, Caleb's legitimacy as heir will be challenged and before long, the kingdom will end up looking like [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Westeros]]. As the infighting rages on, Hans will secretly offer his services to the highest bidder, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder changing loyalties as different factions gain the upper hand]], until one of his brothers runs a sword through him. Elsa and Anna, along with the other kingdoms, will end up deploying their navies to intervene and defend their kingdoms as some of the brothers attempt to conquer nearby countries to consolidate their base. In the end, the entire Westergaard clan will end in bloodshed, the Southern Isles will be absorbed into Arendelle, and the people of the Southern Isles will enjoy a new age of peace and prosperity, heralding Elsa and Anna as the liberators who overthrew the hated Westergaard dynasty.

[[WMG:The Southern Isles' royal castle.]]
Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a serpent from a distance but is actually made from the shiny black stones found on the Isles, future stories can depict the royal castle (and perhaps the whole city) as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture in white, red and gold, that screams "we are so much better than you," and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage. Everything is elegant and looks beautiful on the outside, but the inside is hollow and cold. Even the royal family might fake it, pretending to be a happy family, but actually don't get along with each other.

The heroes (Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) might also lampshade on the general cynicism and emptiness surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure.

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Since Hans was based on the mirror from ''The Snow Queen'', his father may very well be a SatanicArchetype, as he molded his 13 sons into mere reflections of himself not for their benefit, [[ItsAllAboutMe but to fuel his bloated ego.]] [[TheCorrupter He slowly corrupted]] them so they'll be forced to emulate him and [[TheDutifulSon regularly demands them]] to be obedient and perfect by subjecting them to intense emotional and physical abuse, and encouraging violence within his family as a way [[TykeBomb to indoctrinate them]] into his twisted SocialDarwinist beliefs, causing [[WellDoneSonGuy them]] to become emotionally dependent on him over time. Any son who fails to exceed or even meet the extremely cruel goals he set is forcibly toughened up, as to him, [[MeeknessIsWeakness meekness]] and [[VirtueIsWeakness kindness]] are for weaklings, traits he frequently saw in Hans. Also, it's a CrapsackWorld out there, so it's MyWayOrTheHighway and MightMakesRight, according to the king. Hans' actions in the TieInNovel are drawn from his hopeless desire to earn his father's respect, [[HiddenDepths but deep down]], he always knew the king will only ever see his sons as henchmen and a fan club.

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Since Hans was based on the mirror from ''The Snow Queen'', his father may very well be a SatanicArchetype, as he molded his 13 sons into mere reflections of himself not for their benefit, [[ItsAllAboutMe but to fuel his bloated ego.]] [[TheCorrupter He slowly corrupted]] them so they'll be forced to emulate him and [[TheDutifulSon regularly demands them]] to be obedient and perfect by subjecting them to intense emotional and physical abuse, and encouraging violence within his family as a way [[TykeBomb to indoctrinate them]] into his twisted SocialDarwinist beliefs, causing [[WellDoneSonGuy them]] to become emotionally dependent on him over time. Any son who fails to exceed or even meet the extremely cruel goals he set is forcibly toughened up, as to him, [[MeeknessIsWeakness meekness]] and [[VirtueIsWeakness kindness]] are for weaklings, traits he frequently saw in Hans. Also, it's a CrapsackWorld out there, so it's MyWayOrTheHighway and MightMakesRight, according to the king. Hans' actions in the TieInNovel are drawn from his hopeless desire to earn his father's respect, [[HiddenDepths but deep down]], he always knew the king will only ever see his sons not as human beings, but as disposable henchmen and a fan club.
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[[WMG:Hans' father is based on the evil troll king/devil who made the Mirror in the original story.]]
Since Hans was based on the mirror from ''The Snow Queen'', his father may very well be a SatanicArchetype, as he molded his 13 sons into mere reflections of himself not for their benefit, [[ItsAllAboutMe but to fuel his bloated ego.]] [[TheCorrupter He slowly corrupted]] them so they'll be forced to emulate him and [[TheDutifulSon regularly demands them]] to be obedient and perfect by subjecting them to intense emotional and physical abuse, and encouraging violence within his family as a way [[TykeBomb to indoctrinate them]] into his twisted SocialDarwinist beliefs, causing [[WellDoneSonGuy them]] to become emotionally dependent on him over time. Any son who fails to exceed or even meet the extremely cruel goals he set is forcibly toughened up, as to him, [[MeeknessIsWeakness meekness]] and [[VirtueIsWeakness kindness]] are for weaklings, traits he frequently saw in Hans. Also, it's a CrapsackWorld out there, so it's MyWayOrTheHighway and MightMakesRight, according to the king. Hans' actions in the TieInNovel are drawn from his hopeless desire to earn his father's respect, [[HiddenDepths but deep down]], he always knew the king will only ever see his sons as henchmen and a fan club.

[[WMG:Hans' family and kingdom are {{expies}} of [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender the Fire Nation]].]]
The Southern Isles is basically the Frozen version of the Fire Nation, as both kingdoms are absolute monarchies with prosperous economies. The two nations are also island nations with royal families that are totally dysfunctional.
* Hans' father, the King of the Southern Isles, is very much like Fire Lord Ozai, as both are tyrants who abuse their power of authority and frequently look down on their youngest child, Zuko and Hans, respectively while favoring their older children.
* Except for Lars, most of Hans' brothers are very much like Azula, as they abuse and play cruel tricks on their younger sibling.
* Lars, the only one of Hans' brothers who didn't abuse Hans, is pretty much like Iroh. Both Hans and Zuko respectively see them as {{Parental Substitute}}s and mentors.
* Hans' mother, the Queen of the Southern Isles, is very much like Ursa, as both are {{Broken Bird}}s who care for their children, but are forced to see their older ones pick on their youngest siblings, and are pretty much wed to men who don't even care for them.

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