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** While the shame for having a love child exists in many countries, it's the crux of a plan to ruin someone's life due to the intense stigmas against it in Japan. [[spoiler:Should Shido's relationship with Akechi come to light, it would put a swift end to Shido's political career and outright ruin his life (or at least it would've if Yaldabaoth hadn't been messiing with people's minds so they ignore everything wrong with Shido). Akechi's mother ''and'' Akechi, meanwhile, have already suffered the consequences; Akechi's mother committed suicide because of the shame and stigma, and Akechi had to put up with living in a string of abusive households because of his parentage. And since Akechi's a popular TV personality on top of being a detective, that portion of his career would likely be destroyed if his status as a bastard child got out. All three of them have had/still have the right to be afraid of exposure. By the time Akechi reaches Shido's palace, however, he doesn't care about his own reputation being ruined anymore and just wants Shido to suffer.]]

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** While the shame for having a love child exists in many countries, it's the crux of a plan to ruin someone's life due to the intense stigmas against it in Japan. [[spoiler:Should Shido's relationship with Akechi come to light, it would put a swift end to Shido's political career and outright ruin his life (or at least it would've if Yaldabaoth hadn't been messiing messing with people's minds so they ignore everything wrong with Shido). Akechi's mother ''and'' Akechi, meanwhile, have already suffered the consequences; Akechi's mother committed suicide because of the shame and stigma, and Akechi had to put up with living in a string of abusive households because of his parentage. And since Akechi's a popular TV personality on top of being a detective, that portion of his career would likely be destroyed if his status as a bastard child got out. All three of them have had/still have the right to be afraid of exposure. By the time Akechi reaches Shido's palace, however, he doesn't care about his own reputation being ruined anymore and just wants Shido to suffer.]]
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** While the shame for having a love child exists in many countries, it's the crux of a plan to ruin someone's life due to the intense stigmas against it in Japan. [[spoiler:Should Shido's relationship with Akechi come to light, it would put a swift end to Shido's political career and outright ruin his life. Akechi's mother ''and'' Akechi, meanwhile, have already suffered the consequences; Akechi's mother committed suicide because of the shame and stigma, and Akechi had to put up with living in a string of abusive households because of his parentage. And since Akechi's a popular TV personality on top of being a detective, that portion of his career would likely be destroyed if his status as a bastard child got out. All three of them have had/still have the right to be afraid of exposure. By the time Akechi reaches Shido's palace, however, he doesn't care about his own reputation being ruined anymore and just wants Shido to suffer.]]

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** While the shame for having a love child exists in many countries, it's the crux of a plan to ruin someone's life due to the intense stigmas against it in Japan. [[spoiler:Should Shido's relationship with Akechi come to light, it would put a swift end to Shido's political career and outright ruin his life.life (or at least it would've if Yaldabaoth hadn't been messiing with people's minds so they ignore everything wrong with Shido). Akechi's mother ''and'' Akechi, meanwhile, have already suffered the consequences; Akechi's mother committed suicide because of the shame and stigma, and Akechi had to put up with living in a string of abusive households because of his parentage. And since Akechi's a popular TV personality on top of being a detective, that portion of his career would likely be destroyed if his status as a bastard child got out. All three of them have had/still have the right to be afraid of exposure. By the time Akechi reaches Shido's palace, however, he doesn't care about his own reputation being ruined anymore and just wants Shido to suffer.]]
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* Makoto's confidant story being about her friendship with Eiko and trying to save her from being exploited is poorly received and is seen as a weak confidant story in the west, but to the Japanese, Makoto's story with Eiko centers around the criticism to the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JK_business Joshikousei Business]], a type of compensated dating that often had the girls involved in this activity to be victims of human and sex trafficking in Japan and how Eiko nearly became a victim to such culture.

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* Makoto's confidant story being about her friendship with Eiko and trying to save her from being exploited is poorly received and is seen as a weak confidant story in the west, but to the Japanese, Makoto's story with Eiko centers around the criticism to the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JK_business Joshikousei Business]], a type of compensated dating that often had the girls involved in this activity to be victims of human and sex trafficking in Japan and how Japan; Makoto was trying to save Eiko nearly became from potentially becoming a victim to such culture.SexSlave.
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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather [[FanMyopia baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad.]] For example, Ryuji is something of a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners]] where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls and regularly ranks at the bottom with less votes compared to the other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other Far East Asian countries being loud, in public places is considered rude as well as disruptive to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the room”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe where extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro culture” as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia puts heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because in the collectivist society juniors are expected to blindly follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.

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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather [[FanMyopia baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad.]] For example, Ryuji is something of a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners]] where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls and regularly ranks at the bottom with less votes compared to the other Phantom Thieves. In Japan This is because his loud and other Far East Asian countries being loud, in public places is considered rude as well as disruptive to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the room”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe where extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro culture” as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia puts heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled extroverted nature combined with his dyed blonde hair rough appearance, makes him come off as rude and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because annoying in the collectivist society juniors are expected Far East, while the West tends to blindly follow authority, show respect for their elders see these same traits as cool and blend in with the crowd.endearing.
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* In ''VideoGame/Persona5Strikers'', one of the crimes Konoe confesses to is [[spoiler: killing his abusive father]] in self-defense. Japanese laws are a lot less lenient with homicide in self-defense than most Western countries are, meaning the weight of this crime, and the fact that he will be punished harshly for it, would otherwise be lost on Western players. The English version changes it to sound like a premeditated murder for this reason.

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* In ''VideoGame/Persona5Strikers'', one of the crimes Konoe confesses to is [[spoiler: killing his abusive father]] [[CrimeOfSelfDefense in self-defense.self-defense]]. Japanese laws are a lot less lenient with homicide in self-defense than most Western countries are, meaning the weight of this crime, and the fact that he will be punished harshly for it, would otherwise be lost on Western players. The English version changes it to sound like a premeditated (albeit sympathetic, as [[spoiler:Konoe's father had murdered his mother and Konoe had very good reason to believe his dad would come after him next]]) murder for this reason.
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* Hifumi's story arc includes a portion where she and her family are horrified about an article that was written about her difficult family situation. They're worried that their family situation becoming well-known will spell disaster for both her and her mother's careers. Coming from a disadvantaged background would gain her nothing but sympathy in the west since rising above ''in spite'' of difficult odds is seen as inspiring and not something to be ashamed of. Again, this is based on the west valuing more an individual's self realization and personal success over their social and economic background. Of course, it later turns out that [[spoiler:Hifumi's mother was the one responsible for selling the story to the magazine, as part of an elaborate gambit to build sympathy for her daughter and use Hifumi's shogi career as a stepping stone to becoming a gravure idol.]]
* Mr. Ushimaru's habit of ChuckingChalk at students for not paying attention, while a common anime trope, would get him in plenty of hot water as it's considered physical abuse by someone in a position of power over someone else, something Western schools and parents are incredibly sensitive to. It's especially hypocritical of him to continue to do this while the school is being put under scrutiny precisely over the abuse Kamoshida put his students through, which includes physical abuse of his athletes.

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* Hifumi's story arc includes a portion where she and her family are horrified about an article that was written about her difficult family situation. They're worried that their family situation becoming well-known will spell disaster for both her and her mother's careers. Coming from a disadvantaged background would gain her nothing but sympathy in the west since rising above ''in spite'' of difficult odds is seen as inspiring and not something to be ashamed of. Again, this is based on the west valuing more an individual's self realization and personal success over their social and economic background. Of course, it later turns out that [[spoiler:Hifumi's [[spoiler: this was actually the intended in-universe reaction; Hifumi's controlling mother was the one responsible for selling released the story to the magazine, as part of an elaborate gambit magazine in order to build gain sympathy for her daughter and in an elaborate gambit to use Hifumi's shogi career as a stepping stone stepping-stone to becoming make her a gravure idol.idol (a model for skimpy outfits) like the mom wanted.]]
* Mr. Ushimaru's habit of ChuckingChalk at students for not paying attention, while a common anime trope, would get him in plenty of hot water as it's considered physical abuse by someone in a position of power over someone else, something Western schools and gives parents are incredibly sensitive to.excellent legal grounds to sue the school. It's especially hypocritical of him to continue to do this while the school is being put under scrutiny precisely over the abuse Kamoshida put his students through, which includes physical abuse of his athletes.
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* On a meta level, Atlus' SpoilAtYourOwnRisk approach to playthroughs posted online created wildly varying reactions between Japanese players and western players. Atlus decreed that posting playthroughs past a certain point in-game would not be allowed, and any videos caught doing this would be removed as soon as they find it. The Japanese players complied and avoided putting up anything past that point. In the west, however, Atlus found itself a victim of the StreisandEffect, with people putting up gameplay videos and plot synopses all the way to the very end of the game in defiance of the order faster than Atlus could take them down. This is due to the very different ways the two groups interpreted those orders: by and large, Japanese players saw it as advice to not let other people be spoiled by plot events out of genuine concern, whereas Western players saw it as a big company being stingy and overstepping its boundaries.

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* On a meta level, Atlus' SpoilAtYourOwnRisk approach to playthroughs posted online created wildly varying reactions between Japanese players and western players. Atlus decreed that posting playthroughs past a certain point in-game would not be allowed, and any videos caught doing this would be removed as soon as they find it. The Japanese players complied and avoided putting up anything past that point. In the west, however, Atlus found itself a victim of the StreisandEffect, with people putting up gameplay videos and plot synopses all the way to the very end of the game in defiance of the order faster than Atlus could take them down. This is due to the very different ways the two groups interpreted those orders: by and large, Japanese players saw it as advice "we don't want spoilers up because that would make playing the game a less fun experience" and were happy to not let other people be spoiled by plot events out of genuine concern, whereas Western comply, while American players saw it as a big company being stingy "we don't want you to enjoy our game without first paying us" and overstepping its boundaries. went out of their way to defy it.
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* Sadayo Kawakami's romance ''is'' meant to be seen as taboo (which she takes great pains to remind you), but in Japan, it's more of an issue of age than a TeacherStudentRomance. What's supposed to make Kawakami different from [[CreepyGymCoach Kamoshida]] is that the student approaches the teacher, and the affection is explicitly confirmed up front as mutual and consensual. That still doesn't cut it with a lot of Western fans, who see a relationship between Kawakami and the protagonist as a huge DoubleStandard relating to the power a teacher has over their students.

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* Sadayo Kawakami's romance ''is'' meant to be seen as taboo (which she takes great pains to remind you), you; she's more reluctant about it than the protagonist is), but in Japan, it's more of an issue of age than a TeacherStudentRomance. What's supposed to make Kawakami different from [[CreepyGymCoach Kamoshida]] is that the student approaches the teacher, and the affection is explicitly confirmed up front as mutual and consensual.consensual, and the teacher flat-out refuses to consummate anything until the student is of age. That still doesn't cut it with a lot of Western fans, who see a relationship between Kawakami and the protagonist as a huge DoubleStandard relating to the power a teacher has over their students.



** There's a more positive contrast in the same game, but it's one that many non-Japanese players still miss. Futaba and her mother Wakaba would be in a tough position legally, but this is meant to make them and their relationship seem remarkable. A lot of Futaba's initial guilt comes from her belief that she drove her mother to suicide, with the other implication being that Futaba and the world around her thinks "of course a bastard child would do such a thing." As a result, Futaba ends up passed to abusive relatives who see no reason to treat her like a human being until Sojiro takes her in himself. Wakaba's genuine love for Futaba is meant to be astonishing - when Wakaba becomes pregnant with Futaba, she just takes it in stride and loves her daughter with all her heart, no strings attached. This is almost ''absurdly'' romantic for Japanese society. Sojiro's account of Wakaba and Futaba's relationship is meant to cement in the player's head that Wakaba absolutely did love Futaba and was a good person, all by itself. All of this still works to a degree in English, but the sheer impact just isn't the same, since single parents and children outside of marriage aren't uncommon in most Western countries.
* Japanese society's reluctance to intervene in cases of abuse comes up from time to time, particularly when one of Chihaya's clients talks about her abusive boyfriend, with neither woman considering reporting the boyfriend for his behavior. That said, people who abuse their [[DomesticAbuse partners]], [[AbusiveParents children]] or [[BigBrotherBully siblings]] are often targeted by the Phantom Thieves. Changing someone's heart requires ''unanimous approval'' from the Thieves, and the game seems to consider this the right thing to do. In the West, there is hesitance for intervention as well, but not by what the Japanese dictate. In the West, intervention is generally seen as trickier primarily because any involvement can (and almost always does) put the victim's health and life in jeopardy.

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** There's a more positive contrast in the same game, but it's one that many non-Japanese players still miss. Futaba and her mother Wakaba would be in a tough position legally, but this is meant to make them and their relationship seem remarkable. A lot of Futaba's initial guilt comes from her belief that she drove her mother to suicide, suicide (due to a faked suicide note), with the other implication being that Futaba and the world around her thinks "of course a bastard child would do such a thing." As a result, Futaba ends up passed to abusive relatives who see no reason to treat her like a human being until Sojiro takes her in himself. Wakaba's genuine love for Futaba is meant to be astonishing - when Wakaba becomes pregnant with Futaba, she just takes it in stride and loves her daughter with all her heart, no strings attached. This is almost ''absurdly'' romantic for Japanese society. Sojiro's account of Wakaba and Futaba's relationship is meant to cement in the player's head that Wakaba absolutely did love Futaba and was a good person, all by itself. All of this still works to a degree in English, but the sheer impact just isn't the same, since single parents and children outside of marriage aren't uncommon in most Western countries.
* Japanese society's reluctance to intervene in cases of abuse comes up from time to time, particularly when one of Chihaya's clients talks about her abusive boyfriend, with neither woman considering reporting the boyfriend for his behavior. That said, people who abuse their [[DomesticAbuse partners]], [[AbusiveParents children]] or [[BigBrotherBully siblings]] are often targeted by the Phantom Thieves. Changing someone's heart requires ''unanimous approval'' from the Thieves, and the game seems to consider this the right thing to do. In the West, there is hesitance for intervention as well, but not by what the Japanese dictate. In the West, intervention is generally seen as trickier primarily because any involvement can (and almost always does) put the victim's health and life in jeopardy.jeopardy- not exactly a problem when you're messing with the target's head without their knowledge.



* The fact that the Phantom Thieves are able to buy realistic toy guns legally. In America, it's illegal to sell fake firearms unless they have an orange tip on the barrel. At the same time, the protagonists are very leery at the idea of owning firearms at all before they learn they're just toys. Ironically, while ''fake'' guns without obvious markers have legal issues, it's perfectly legal in most American states for high schoolers to own firearms and even relatively common in many for someone to own a beginner's pistol or rifle. (Grenade launchers, though, are still a bit of a question mark in either region.)

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* The fact that deal with the Phantom Thieves are able to buy legally buying their weapons as realistic toy guns legally. toys. In Japan, nothing surprising. In America, it would ironically be more legal for them (except Joker, since he has a criminal record) to buy the ''actual guns'' than the toys, since all toy guns must be sold with an orange tip, or some other obvious marker that it's illegal to sell fake firearms unless they have an orange tip on the barrel. At the same time, the protagonists are very leery at the idea of owning firearms at all before they learn they're just toys. Ironically, while ''fake'' guns without obvious markers have legal issues, it's perfectly legal in most American states for high schoolers to own firearms and even relatively common in many for someone to own a beginner's pistol or rifle. (Grenade toy. The grenade launchers, though, on the other hand, are still a bit of a question mark in either region.)on both sides of the Pacific.
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** To rub salt into the wound, during a Confidant hangout with Akechi in ''Royal'', he implies that his mother was a sex worker that accidentally got pregnant during a one-night stand. This means Akechi's background ''will'' most likely destroy his career if the public ever becomes aware of it. In that regard, Akechi has every reason to hide it, considering Akechi's birth was a humiliation at best and ''outright shameful'' at worst by the laws of "koseki" and Japanese society. Akechi telling this to Joker is meant to be a sign of intense trust, since he's trusting Joker with a secret that could outright ruin his life if it ever got out. In the West, while telling Joker this would certainly mean Akechi trusts him, being born to a sex worker wouldn't be seen as Akechi's fault. In fact, his refusal to be defined by his parentage (at least publicly), becoming a detective and celebrity in high school, would be seen as inspiring.

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** To rub salt into the wound, during a Confidant hangout with Akechi in ''Royal'', he implies that his mother was a sex worker that accidentally got pregnant during a one-night stand. This means Akechi's background ''will'' most likely destroy his career if the public ever becomes aware of it. In that regard, Akechi has every reason to hide it, considering Akechi's birth was a humiliation at best and ''outright shameful'' at worst by the laws of "koseki" and Japanese society. Akechi telling this to Joker is meant to be a sign of intense trust, since he's trusting Joker with a secret that could outright ruin his life if it ever got out. In the West, while telling Joker something this personal would certainly mean Akechi trusts him, be a sign of deep trust, being born to a sex worker wouldn't be seen as Akechi's fault. In fact, his refusal to be defined by his parentage (at least publicly), becoming a detective and celebrity in high school, would be seen as inspiring.
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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather [[FanMyopia baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad.]] For example, Ryuji is something of a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners]] where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls and regularly ranks at the bottom with less votes compared to the other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other far East Asian countries being loud, hyped up, and bashful in public places is considered rude as well as disruptive to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe where extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro culture” as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia puts heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because in the collectivist society juniors are expected to blindly follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.

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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather [[FanMyopia baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad.]] For example, Ryuji is something of a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners]] where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls and regularly ranks at the bottom with less votes compared to the other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other far Far East Asian countries being loud, hyped up, and bashful in public places is considered rude as well as disruptive to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, room”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe where extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro culture” as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia puts heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because in the collectivist society juniors are expected to blindly follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.
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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather [[FanMyopia baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad.]] For example, Ryuji is something of a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners]] where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls and regularly ranks at the bottom with less votes compared to the other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other far East Asian countries being loud, hyped up, and bashful in public places is considered rude as well as inconsiderate to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe where extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro culture” as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia puts heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because in the collectivist society juniors are expected to blindly follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.

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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather [[FanMyopia baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad.]] For example, Ryuji is something of a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners]] where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls and regularly ranks at the bottom with less votes compared to the other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other far East Asian countries being loud, hyped up, and bashful in public places is considered rude as well as inconsiderate disruptive to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe where extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro culture” as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia puts heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because in the collectivist society juniors are expected to blindly follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.
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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather [[FanMyopia baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad.]] For example, Ryuji is something of a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners]] where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls and regularly ranks at the bottom with less votes compared to the other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and far East Asian countries being loud, hyped up, and bashful in public places is considered rude as well as inconsiderate to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe where extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro culture” as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia puts heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because in the collectivist society juniors are expected to blindly follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.

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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather [[FanMyopia baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad.]] For example, Ryuji is something of a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners]] where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls and regularly ranks at the bottom with less votes compared to the other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other far East Asian countries being loud, hyped up, and bashful in public places is considered rude as well as inconsiderate to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe where extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro culture” as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia puts heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because in the collectivist society juniors are expected to blindly follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.
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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather [[FanMyopia baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad.]] For example, Ryuji is something of a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners]] where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls and regularly ranks at the bottom with less votes compared to the other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other Asian countries being loud, hyped up, and bashful in public places is considered rude, disruptive, and inconsiderate to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe where extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro culture” as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia puts heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because in the collectivist society juniors are expected to follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.

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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather [[FanMyopia baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad.]] For example, Ryuji is something of a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners]] where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls and regularly ranks at the bottom with less votes compared to the other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other far East Asian countries being loud, hyped up, and bashful in public places is considered rude, disruptive, and rude as well as inconsiderate to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe where extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro culture” as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia puts heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because in the collectivist society juniors are expected to blindly follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.
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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather [[FanMyopia baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad.]] For example, Ryuji is something of a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners]] where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls and regularly ranks at the bottom with less votes compared to the other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other Asian countries being loud, hyped up, and bashful in public places is considered rude, disruptive, and inconsiderate to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe where extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro” culture as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia put heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because in the collectivist society juniors are expected to follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.

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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather [[FanMyopia baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad.]] For example, Ryuji is something of a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners]] where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls and regularly ranks at the bottom with less votes compared to the other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other Asian countries being loud, hyped up, and bashful in public places is considered rude, disruptive, and inconsiderate to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe where extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro” culture “Bro culture” as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia put puts heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because in the collectivist society juniors are expected to follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.
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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather [[FanMyopia baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad.]] For starters, Ryuji who is something of a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners]] where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls regularly ranking at the bottom with less votes compared to other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other Asian countries, being loud, hyped up and bashful in public places is considered rude, disruptive, and inconsiderate to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro” culture as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia put heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because in the collectivist society juniors are expected to follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.

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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather [[FanMyopia baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad.]] For starters, example, Ryuji who is something of a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners]] where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls and regularly ranking ranks at the bottom with less votes compared to the other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other Asian countries, countries being loud, hyped up up, and bashful in public places is considered rude, disruptive, and inconsiderate to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe where extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro” culture as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia put heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because in the collectivist society juniors are expected to follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.
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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad. For starters, Ryuji who is something of a fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls regularly ranking at the bottom with less votes compared to other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other Asian countries, being loud, hyped up and bashful in public places is considered rude, disruptive, and inconsiderate to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro” culture as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia put heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because in the collectivist society juniors are expected to follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.

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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather [[FanMyopia baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad. abroad.]] For starters, Ryuji who is something of a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners Easterners]] where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls regularly ranking at the bottom with less votes compared to other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other Asian countries, being loud, hyped up and bashful in public places is considered rude, disruptive, and inconsiderate to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro” culture as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia put heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because in the collectivist society juniors are expected to follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.
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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad. For starters, Ryuji who is something of a fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls regularly ranking at the bottom with less votes compared to other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other Asian countries, being loud, hyped up and bashful in public places is considered rude, disruptive, and inconsiderate to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro” culture as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia put heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful the collectivist society because most are expected juniors to follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.

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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad. For starters, Ryuji who is something of a fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls regularly ranking at the bottom with less votes compared to other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other Asian countries, being loud, hyped up and bashful in public places is considered rude, disruptive, and inconsiderate to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro” culture as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia put heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful because in the collectivist society because most juniors are expected juniors to follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.
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* Due to a cultural difference between the East and the West, the results of annual character surveys voted by Japanese or other Asian fans can seem rather baffling and upsetting to Global audiences from abroad. For starters, Ryuji who is something of a fan favorite among Westerners than with Easterners where he gets very little love in official Atlus polls regularly ranking at the bottom with less votes compared to other Phantom Thieves. In Japan and other Asian countries, being loud, hyped up and bashful in public places is considered rude, disruptive, and inconsiderate to everyone else since comparatively the majority of Asia places more value on introverted traits and “Reading the mood and social atmosphere”, opposite to Overseas nations like North America and Europe extroversion is valued more. Next, while his bromance with Joker is well received in the West, the East however doesn’t adhere to the “Bro” culture as most young teenagers are dedicated to studying in order to get into a good college and live up to their families expectations since Japan and the rest of Asia put heavy emphasis on grades. Lastly, unlike the individualistic countries, Ryuji’s vulgarism coupled with his dyed blonde hair and flashy clothes is viewed as disgraceful the collectivist society because most are expected juniors to follow authority, show respect for their elders and blend in with the crowd.

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* Makoto's confidant story being about her friendship with Eiko and trying to save her from being exploited is poorly received and is seen as a weak confidant story in the west, but to the Japanese, Makoto's story with Eiko centers around the criticism to the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JK_business Joshikousei Business]], a type of compensated dating that often had the girls involved in this activity to be victims of human and sex trafficking in Japan and how Eiko nearly became a victim to such culture.



* Makoto's confidant story being about her friendship with Eiko and trying to save her from being exploited is poorly received and is seen as a weak confidant story in the west, but to the Japanese, Makoto's story with Eiko centers around the criticism to the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JK_business Joshikousei Business]], a type of compensated dating that often had the girls involved in this activity to be victims of human and sex trafficking in Japan and how Eiko nearly became a victim to such culture.
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* After being falsely convicted of assaulting a politician, Joker is sentenced to a year's probation. To most people in the West, this is a very light sentence; while it's certainly unfair to Joker since he was framed, it likely wouldn't haunt him for the rest of his life if he were American or European. But to the Japanese people, having a blemish on your record ''at all'' irrevocably tarnishes your name forever. Hence everyone initially treats Joker like he's a hardened criminal after his record gets leaked, and why he had to move to Tokyo just to find a school that would accept him after he got expelled from his old school.

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* After being falsely convicted of assaulting a politician, Joker is sentenced to a year's probation. To most people in the West, this is a very light sentence; while it's certainly unfair to Joker since he was framed, it likely wouldn't haunt him for the rest of his life if he were American or European. But to the Japanese people, having a blemish on your record ''at all'' [[OnceDoneNeverForgotten irrevocably tarnishes your name forever.forever]]. Hence everyone initially treats Joker like he's a hardened criminal after his record gets leaked, and why he had to move to Tokyo just to find a school that would accept him after he got expelled from his old school.
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* A common complaint from Western critics is that, despite the game heavily dealing with the nature of youth being misunderstood by the previous generation, the game has no GayOption anywhere, even in the UpdatedRerelease with ''Royal'', and not much in the way of positive LGBT representation -- and in fact, being shocked to learn that the original release featured much less sensitive depictions of them. This is in part a fundamental misunderstanding of the theme, as while America, Europe and most other western countries heavily associate such issues with discrimination (which LGBT topics fall under), Japan is far more routed in social corruption (which the game deals extensively with).

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* A common complaint from Western critics is that, despite the game heavily dealing with the nature of youth being misunderstood by the previous generation, the game has no GayOption anywhere, even in the UpdatedRerelease with ''Royal'', and not much in the way of positive LGBT LGBTQ+ representation -- and in fact, being shocked to learn that the original release featured much less sensitive depictions of them. This is in part a fundamental misunderstanding of the theme, as while America, Europe and most other western countries heavily associate such issues with discrimination (which LGBT LGBTQ+ topics fall under), Japan is far more routed in social corruption (which the game deals extensively with).
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* On a meta level, Atlus' SpoilAtYourOwnRisk approach to playthroughs posted online created wildly varying reactions between Japanese players and western players. Atlus decreed that posting playthroughs past a certain point in-game would not be allowed, and any videos caught doing this would be removed as soon as they find it. The Japanese players complied and avoided putting up anything past that point. In the west, however, Atlus found itself a victim of the StreisandEffect, with people putting up gameplay videos and plot synopses all the way to the very end of the game in defiance of the order faster than Atlus could take them down. This is due to the very different ways the two groups interpreted those orders: by and large, Japanese players saw it as advice to not let other people be spoiled by plot events out of genuine concern, whereas Western players saw it as a big company overstepping its boundaries.

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* On a meta level, Atlus' SpoilAtYourOwnRisk approach to playthroughs posted online created wildly varying reactions between Japanese players and western players. Atlus decreed that posting playthroughs past a certain point in-game would not be allowed, and any videos caught doing this would be removed as soon as they find it. The Japanese players complied and avoided putting up anything past that point. In the west, however, Atlus found itself a victim of the StreisandEffect, with people putting up gameplay videos and plot synopses all the way to the very end of the game in defiance of the order faster than Atlus could take them down. This is due to the very different ways the two groups interpreted those orders: by and large, Japanese players saw it as advice to not let other people be spoiled by plot events out of genuine concern, whereas Western players saw it as a big company being stingy and overstepping its boundaries.
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* Makoto's confidant story being about her friendship with Eiko and trying to save her from being exploited is poorly received and is seen as a weak confidant story in the west, but to the Japanese, Makoto's story with Eiko centers around the criticism to the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JK_business Joshikousei Business]], a type of compensated dating that often had the girls involved in this activity to be victims of human and sex trafficking in Japan and how Eiko nearly became a victim to such culture.
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* The game's CentralTheme is a big one. In Western cultures (particularly America), "stand up to corrupt authority rather than blindly following it" comes across as a CaptainObviousAesop, given how the West tends to value and champion personal freedoms over societal harmony. But such a central theme is extremely relevant (and actually quite radical) for Japan. [[JapanesePoliteness Respect for social superiors is heavily ingrained into the culture]], to the point of [[{{Keigo}} being hard-wired into the language itself]]. All of the Phantom Thieves' targets are in positions that demand respect from Japanese society, which [[VillainWithGoodPublicity is why they got away with their actions for so long]].

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* The game's CentralTheme is a big one. In Western cultures (particularly America), "stand up to corrupt authority rather than blindly following it" comes across as a CaptainObviousAesop, given how the West tends to value and champion personal freedoms over societal harmony. But such a central theme is extremely relevant (and actually quite radical) for Japan. [[JapanesePoliteness Respect for social superiors is heavily ingrained into the culture]], to the point of [[{{Keigo}} [[FormalCharactersUseKeigo being hard-wired into the language itself]]. All of the Phantom Thieves' targets are in positions that demand respect from Japanese society, which [[VillainWithGoodPublicity is why they got away with their actions for so long]].
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* Related to the above, this game's "harem route" enjoys a decent amount of popularity in Japan, with [[https://personacentral.com/persona-5-poll-characters-memorable-scenes-mementos-reports-vol-2/ a 2019 poll]] showing that 30% of respondents were in a relationship with all romancible Confidants by the game's end, while 39% romanced only one. By contrast, just 7% of western respondents romanced everyone, with 69% dating only one girl. This may be due to the existence of the adult romances, or western fans believing Joker cheating on the girls goes against his perceived sense of justice. ''Anime/Persona5TheAnimation'' got an [=OVA=] dedicated to the harem route Valentines Day event, evoking mixed response in the west.

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* Related to the above, this game's "harem route" enjoys a decent amount of popularity in Japan, with [[https://personacentral.com/persona-5-poll-characters-memorable-scenes-mementos-reports-vol-2/ a 2019 poll]] showing that 30% of respondents were in a relationship with all romancible Confidants by the game's end, while 39% romanced only one. By contrast, just 7% of western respondents romanced everyone, with 69% dating only one girl. This may be due to the existence of the adult romances, or western fans believing Joker cheating on the girls goes against his perceived sense of justice. ''Anime/Persona5TheAnimation'' got an [=OVA=] dedicated to the harem route Valentines Day event, evoking mixed response in the west.
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* On a meta level, Atlus's SpoilAtYourOwnRisk approach to playthroughs posted online created wildly varying reactions between Japanese players and western players. Atlus decreed that posting playthroughs past a certain point in-game would not be allowed, and any videos caught doing this would be removed as soon as they find it. The Japanese players complied and avoided putting up anything past that point. In the west, however, Atlus found itself a victim of the StreisandEffect, with people putting up gameplay videos and plot synopses all the way to the very end of the game in defiance of the order faster than Atlus could take them down. This is due to the very different ways the two groups interpreted those orders: by and large, Japanese players saw it as advice to not let other people be spoiled by plot events out of genuine concern, whereas Western players saw it as a big company overstepping its boundaries.

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* On a meta level, Atlus's Atlus' SpoilAtYourOwnRisk approach to playthroughs posted online created wildly varying reactions between Japanese players and western players. Atlus decreed that posting playthroughs past a certain point in-game would not be allowed, and any videos caught doing this would be removed as soon as they find it. The Japanese players complied and avoided putting up anything past that point. In the west, however, Atlus found itself a victim of the StreisandEffect, with people putting up gameplay videos and plot synopses all the way to the very end of the game in defiance of the order faster than Atlus could take them down. This is due to the very different ways the two groups interpreted those orders: by and large, Japanese players saw it as advice to not let other people be spoiled by plot events out of genuine concern, whereas Western players saw it as a big company overstepping its boundaries.
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* In ''VideoGame/Persona5Strikers'', one of the crimes Konoe confesses to is [[spoiler: killing his abusive father]] in self-defense. Japanese laws are a lot less lenient with murder in self-defense than most Western countries are, meaning the weight of this crime, and the fact that he will be punished harshly for it, would otherwise be lost on Western players. The English version changes it to sound like a premeditated murder for this reason.

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* In ''VideoGame/Persona5Strikers'', one of the crimes Konoe confesses to is [[spoiler: killing his abusive father]] in self-defense. Japanese laws are a lot less lenient with murder homicide in self-defense than most Western countries are, meaning the weight of this crime, and the fact that he will be punished harshly for it, would otherwise be lost on Western players. The English version changes it to sound like a premeditated murder for this reason.
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* The nature of Joker's arrest and the KangarooCourt he was put through is also noteworthy. Many viewers would see immediate red flags at the fact that neither of Joker's alleged "victims" ever appeared in the news or even at his court trial. Along with the abnormally high conviction rates in Japan, there also exists a social stigma that automatically presumes guilt on the part of whoever was arrested merely for being ''accused'' of a crime, meaning Joker never really had a shot at proving his innocence. This also extends to how some of the more sympathetic adults like Sojiro and Kawakami initially treat Joker, with both repeatedly trying to pressure Joker to keep his nose out of others' business. Even though they slightly give him the benefit of the doubt, there's still an undercurrent of belief at first that [[BlamingTheVictim he is still at fault for getting involved in a matter he shouldn't have]].

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* The nature of Joker's arrest and the KangarooCourt he was put through is also noteworthy. Many viewers would see immediate red flags at the fact that neither of Joker's alleged "victims" ever appeared in the news or even at his court trial. Along with the abnormally high conviction rates in Japan, there also exists a social stigma that automatically presumes guilt on the part of whoever was arrested merely for being ''accused'' of a crime, meaning Joker never really had a shot at proving his innocence. This also extends to how some of the more sympathetic adults like Sojiro and Kawakami initially treat Joker, with both repeatedly trying to pressure Joker to keep his nose out of others' business.business, although they come to regret treating him that way. Even though they slightly give him the benefit of the doubt, there's still an undercurrent of belief at first that [[BlamingTheVictim he is still at fault for getting involved in a matter he shouldn't have]].
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* Mr. Ushimaru's habit of ChuckingChalk at students for not paying attention, while a common anime trope, would get him in plenty of hot water as it's considered physical abuse by someone in a position of power over someone else, something Western schools and parents are incredibly sensitive to. It's especially hypocritical of him to continue to do this while the school is being put under scrutiny precisely over the abuse Kamoshida put his students through.
* In ''VideoGame/Persona5Strikers'', one of the crimes Konoe confesses to is [[spoiler: killing his father in self-defense. Japanese laws are a lot less lenient with murder in self-defense than most Western countries are, meaning the weight of this crime, and the fact that he will be punished harshly for it, would otherwise be lost on Western players. The English version changes it to sound like a premeditated murder for this reason.]]

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* Mr. Ushimaru's habit of ChuckingChalk at students for not paying attention, while a common anime trope, would get him in plenty of hot water as it's considered physical abuse by someone in a position of power over someone else, something Western schools and parents are incredibly sensitive to. It's especially hypocritical of him to continue to do this while the school is being put under scrutiny precisely over the abuse Kamoshida put his students through.
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* In ''VideoGame/Persona5Strikers'', one of the crimes Konoe confesses to is [[spoiler: killing his father abusive father]] in self-defense. Japanese laws are a lot less lenient with murder in self-defense than most Western countries are, meaning the weight of this crime, and the fact that he will be punished harshly for it, would otherwise be lost on Western players. The English version changes it to sound like a premeditated murder for this reason.]]
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Removing inaccurate information; no strikes were ever given or intended to be given


* On a meta level, Atlus's SpoilAtYourOwnRisk approach to playthroughs posted online created wildly varying reactions between Japanese players and western players. Atlus decreed that posting playthroughs past a certain point in-game would not be allowed, and any videos caught doing this would be removed as soon as they find it. The Japanese players complied and avoided putting up anything past that point. In the west, however, Atlus found itself a victim of the StreisandEffect, with people putting up gameplay videos and plot synopses all the way to the very end of the game in defiance of the order faster than Atlus could take them down. This is due to the very different ways the two groups interpreted those orders: by and large, Japanese players saw it as advice to not let other people be spoiled by plot events out of genuine concern, whereas Western players saw it as a big company overstepping its boundaries. A big motivator for this pushback was the official Atlus guidelines for streaming the game, where they claimed if anyone on [=YouTube=] violated the initial "no footage past July 7th" rule (later changed to November 19 in-game after these protests), Atlus would use [=YouTube's=] content ID system to claim offending videos, or issue copyright takedowns to suspend or terminate channels that broke the guidelines. Western users of the website (including [=YouTubers=] and their fans) generally despise companies/corporations exploiting Youtube's systems (which are ostensibly ''only'' for reporting stolen content) purely to silence criticism or to enforce arbitrary rules on how users should use their products... much less corporations flexing their power and influence towards individuals or small groups, in some cases threatening people's livelihoods with no repercussions. Notably the western branch of Atlus was not the one that instigated the policy, but Atlus Japan. The common consensus was that westerners probably would've behaved identically to the Japanese fans had the request not ended with a threat. Oddly, it seems Atlus didn't learn from trying this prior with ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'', in which [[HistoryRepeats the very same thing happened when they tried to implement a spoiler policy]].

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* On a meta level, Atlus's SpoilAtYourOwnRisk approach to playthroughs posted online created wildly varying reactions between Japanese players and western players. Atlus decreed that posting playthroughs past a certain point in-game would not be allowed, and any videos caught doing this would be removed as soon as they find it. The Japanese players complied and avoided putting up anything past that point. In the west, however, Atlus found itself a victim of the StreisandEffect, with people putting up gameplay videos and plot synopses all the way to the very end of the game in defiance of the order faster than Atlus could take them down. This is due to the very different ways the two groups interpreted those orders: by and large, Japanese players saw it as advice to not let other people be spoiled by plot events out of genuine concern, whereas Western players saw it as a big company overstepping its boundaries. A big motivator for this pushback was the official Atlus guidelines for streaming the game, where they claimed if anyone on [=YouTube=] violated the initial "no footage past July 7th" rule (later changed to November 19 in-game after these protests), Atlus would use [=YouTube's=] content ID system to claim offending videos, or issue copyright takedowns to suspend or terminate channels that broke the guidelines. Western users of the website (including [=YouTubers=] and their fans) generally despise companies/corporations exploiting Youtube's systems (which are ostensibly ''only'' for reporting stolen content) purely to silence criticism or to enforce arbitrary rules on how users should use their products... much less corporations flexing their power and influence towards individuals or small groups, in some cases threatening people's livelihoods with no repercussions. Notably the western branch of Atlus was not the one that instigated the policy, but Atlus Japan. The common consensus was that westerners probably would've behaved identically to the Japanese fans had the request not ended with a threat. Oddly, it seems Atlus didn't learn from trying this prior with ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'', in which [[HistoryRepeats the very same thing happened when they tried to implement a spoiler policy]].

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