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** [[https://twitter.com/zephyrnok/status/647795107203186689 The image]] ('''[[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]''') of an attendee wearing a diaper at [=RainFurrest=] went viral. Worst still, reportedly others were walking around with ''[[{{Squick}} full]]'' [[{{Squick}} diapers]] and leaving them atop cars in the Hilton parking lot. There were also reports of attendees clad in fetish gear, despite being against the rules.

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** [[https://twitter.com/zephyrnok/status/647795107203186689 The image]] ('''[[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]''') of an attendee wearing a diaper at [=RainFurrest=] went viral. Worst still, reportedly others were walking around with ''[[{{Squick}} full]]'' [[{{Squick}} diapers]] and leaving them atop cars in the Hilton parking lot. There were also reports of attendees clad in fetish gear, despite being against the rules.
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** Then things took a turn for the terrifying when the ''Soyuz 1'''s parachute failed to deploy on re-entry, causing the capsule to crash to the ground and kill Komarov in the process. [[http://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2011/05/02/134597833/cosmonaut-crashed-into-earth-crying-in-rage This is all that was left of him afterwards]]. U.S. scientists happened to be listening in to Komarov's final communications with Soviet mission control and heard him [[http://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2011/05/02/134597833/cosmonaut-crashed-into-earth-crying-in-rage raging at the people]] who put him in that clusterfuck of a spacecraft.

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** Then things took a turn for the terrifying when the ''Soyuz 1'''s parachute failed to deploy on re-entry, causing the capsule to crash to the ground and kill Komarov in the process. [[http://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2011/05/02/134597833/cosmonaut-crashed-into-earth-crying-in-rage This is all that was left of him afterwards]]. U.S. scientists happened to be listening in to Komarov's final communications with Soviet mission control and heard him [[http://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2011/05/02/134597833/cosmonaut-crashed-into-earth-crying-in-rage raging at the people]] who put him in that clusterfuck of a spacecraft.
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** Australian-based developers LJ Hooker acquired the land for Forest Fair Mall in the mid-1980s. The site, on the north side of the beltway, was originally slated to have just Bigg's (a local supercenter chain), which LJ Hooker chose to be an anchor to a massive 1.5 million square foot mall -- the second largest in the state at the time, despite being only a few miles from both Tri-County and Northgate malls. The other anchor stores were to be Higbee's (based out of Cleveland) and four other upscale regional department stores (Bonwit Teller, B. Altman and Company, Parisian, and Sakowitz) that LJ Hooker bought controlling interest in, just to force them into the mall. Right as the first phase of the mall opened in 1988 (comprising Bigg's and twenty other stores), Higbee's canceled their plans, so B. Altman was hastily moved to their space and Elder-Beerman (based in nearby Dayton) took B. Altman's original spot. Even before the mall opened, many analysts felt that the four upscale department stores that Hooker had purchased were poor choices, due to both their unfamiliarity with the market (Bonwit Teller and B. Altman were both based in New York City; Parisian in Birmingham, Alabama; and Sakowitz in Houston) and the more blue-collar demographics of the neighborhoods around the mall. In addition, Tri-County Mall added a second level and another department store at this point. Despite the cards being stacked against it, Forest Fair fully opened in 1989, featuring such lavish tenants as an Australian brewery, the first licensed day care center in a US shopping mall, a huge arcade/entertainment center called Time Out, and a sprawling food court.
** Hooker also rebuilt the aging Richland Mall in Columbia, South Carolina into a similarly opulent megamall, which also failed out of the gate and was ultimately turned into a Verizon call center that later closed as well. They also developed smaller, discount-oriented malls anchored by Bigg's in Denver and Louisville, both of which were equally fruitless and promptly redeveloped into more conventional strip malls. Megamalls were also planned in Orlando, Tampa, Raleigh, Charlotte, and Atlanta, but none came to fruition. The poor planning brought Hooker into bankruptcy in 1990, only six months after the mall's opening, taking B. Altman, Sakowitz, and Bonwit Teller along with it (Parisian survived largely unscathed, and ended up mostly selling to Belk in 2006). Hooker quickly withdrew from the States, and the CEO who brought on their ill-fated US expansions was ousted. Naturally, with the big department stores already gone, the mall also lost most of its flashy specialty tenants.
** A group of lenders took over the mall, and managed to attract a few new tenants, including Cincinnati's first Kohl's in the former B. Altman, restaurants in the former Bonwit Teller, and a local clothing store in the former Sakowitz. After another owner took over in 1996, the mall seemed to be on an upswing, particularly when the closure of Parisian made way for a Bass Pro Shops. Many of the new tenants at this point were outlet and big-box stores, such as Burlington Coat Factory, Off Fifth (the outlet division of Saks Fifth Avenue), Guitar Center, and a large Christian bookstore. In 2002, it was sold again to Mills Corporation, a company known for developing similar discount malls throughout the country. They renamed the property Cincinnati Mills to fit their ThemeNaming and held a grand reopening in 2004. While it was initially successful, its sheer size and market saturation made it hard to keep filled. Also, the gradual decline of the retail sector after the TurnOfTheMillennium wiped out many anchor tenants such as Media Play, Steve & Barry's, Bigg's, Elder-Beerman -- while also doing a number on both Tri-County and Northgate. Mills itself was financially struggling (and under scrutiny by the SEC) by the time it sold most of its portfolio to Simon Property Group, the largest mall company in the US, in 2007.

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** Australian-based developers LJ Hooker acquired the land for Forest Fair Mall in the mid-1980s. The site, on the north side of the beltway, was originally slated to have just Bigg's (a local supercenter chain), which LJ Hooker chose to be an anchor to a massive 1.5 million square foot mall -- the second largest in the state at the time, despite being only a few miles from both the existing Tri-County and Northgate malls. The other anchor stores were to be Higbee's (based out of Cleveland) and four other upscale regional department stores (Bonwit Teller, B. Altman and Company, Parisian, and Sakowitz) that LJ Hooker bought controlling interest in, just to force them into the mall. Right as the first phase of the mall opened in 1988 (comprising Bigg's and twenty other stores), Higbee's canceled their plans, so B. Altman was hastily moved to their space and Elder-Beerman (based in nearby Dayton) took B. Altman's original spot. Even before the mall opened, many analysts felt that the four upscale department stores that Hooker had purchased were poor choices, due to both their unfamiliarity with the market (Bonwit Teller and B. Altman were both based in New York City; Parisian in Birmingham, Alabama; and Sakowitz in Houston) and the more blue-collar demographics of the neighborhoods around the mall. In addition, Tri-County Mall added a second level and another department store at this point. Despite the cards being stacked against it, Forest Fair fully opened in 1989, featuring such lavish tenants as an Australian brewery, the first licensed day care center in a US shopping mall, a huge arcade/entertainment center called Time Out, and a sprawling food court.
** Hooker also rebuilt the aging Richland Mall in Columbia, South Carolina into a similarly opulent megamall, which also failed out of the gate and was ultimately turned into gate; most of it ended up becoming a Verizon call center that which later closed as well. closed. They also developed smaller, discount-oriented malls anchored by Bigg's in Denver and Louisville, both of which were equally fruitless and promptly redeveloped into more conventional strip malls. Megamalls were also planned in Orlando, Tampa, Raleigh, Charlotte, and Atlanta, but none came to fruition. The poor planning brought Hooker into bankruptcy in 1990, only six months after the mall's opening, taking B. Altman, Sakowitz, and Bonwit Teller along with it (Parisian survived largely unscathed, and ended up mostly selling to Belk in 2006). Hooker quickly withdrew from the States, and the CEO who brought on their ill-fated US expansions was ousted. Naturally, with the big department stores already gone, the mall also lost most of its flashy specialty tenants.
** A group of lenders took over the mall, and managed to attract a few new tenants, including Cincinnati's first Kohl's in the former B. Altman, restaurants in the former Bonwit Teller, and a local clothing store in the former Sakowitz.Altman. After another owner took over in 1996, the mall seemed to be on an upswing, particularly when the closure of Parisian made way for a Bass Pro Shops. Many of the new tenants at this point were outlet and big-box stores, such as Burlington Coat Factory, Off Fifth (the outlet division of Saks Fifth Avenue), Babies "R" Us, and Guitar Center, and a large Christian bookstore.Center. In 2002, it was sold again to Mills Corporation, a company known for developing similar discount malls throughout the country. They renamed the property Cincinnati Mills to fit their ThemeNaming and held a grand reopening in 2004. While it was initially successful, its sheer size and market saturation made it hard to keep filled. Also, the gradual decline of the retail sector after the TurnOfTheMillennium wiped out many anchor tenants such as Media Play, Steve & Barry's, Bigg's, and Elder-Beerman -- while also doing a number on both Tri-County and Northgate. Mills itself was financially struggling (and under scrutiny by the SEC) by the time it sold most of its portfolio to Simon Property Group, the largest mall company in the US, in 2007.



* Another troubled mall was Eastland Mall, now Eastgate Metroplex, on the east side of Tulsa, Oklahoma. It was to have been opened in the 1970s, but sat half-finished for years due to a myriad of problems, including a worker falling to his death during construction of a Dillard's department store, and developers who pulled funding. It finally opened in 1984 and was initially successful, but in 1999, anchor store Service Merchandise went out of business, ultimately becoming a family entertainment center for a short time. J. C. Penney closed in 2001, starting a mass exodus of stores from the interior mall, while Mervyns closed all three of its Tulsa stores in 2006 (they would go out of business entirely in 2008) and Dillard's, by then downgraded to a clearance center, closed as well. The mall was quickly passed among several owners, and by 2007, it was converted almost entirely to an office complex. The mall's short life was due not only to its troubled beginnings and poor anchors, but also a bad location. It was put on the far east side of town, a direction that development just never followed -- the mall building is still largely surrounded by fields, and literally the only peripheral development was a strip mall originally anchored by Target, Marshalls, and Toys "R" Us, but now completely abandoned. It also didn't help that nearby highway expansion provided easier access to the other, more successful malls in the Tulsa area.

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* Another troubled mall was Eastland Mall, now Eastgate Metroplex, on the east side of Tulsa, Oklahoma. It was to have been opened in the 1970s, but sat half-finished for years due to a myriad of problems, including a worker falling to his death during construction of a Dillard's department store, and developers who pulled funding. It finally opened in 1984 and was initially successful, but in 1999, anchor store Service Merchandise went out of business, ultimately becoming a family entertainment center for a short time. J. C. Penney closed in 2001, starting a mass exodus of stores from the interior mall, while Mervyns closed all three of its Tulsa stores in 2006 (they would go out of business entirely in 2008) and Dillard's, by then downgraded to a clearance center, closed as well. The mall was quickly passed among several owners, and by 2007, it was converted almost entirely to an office complex.complex, retaining only a couple eateries and small service shops for use by office workers. The mall's short life was due not only to its troubled beginnings and poor anchors, but also a bad location. It was put on the far east side of town, a direction that development just never followed -- the mall building is still largely surrounded by fields, and literally the only peripheral development was a single strip mall originally anchored by Target, Marshalls, and Toys "R" Us, but now completely abandoned.that also wound up converting largely to non-retail use. It also didn't help that nearby highway expansion provided easier access to the other, more successful malls in the Tulsa area.



* Oviedo Mall, formerly Oviedo Marketplace, in the UsefulNotes/{{Orlando}} suburb of Oviedo. The mall opened to great fanfare in 1998 with department stores Dillard's and Gayfers, Major tenants included a movie theater, Bed Bath & Beyond, and "superstore" locations for both f.y.e. and Foot Locker. However, its small size and poor freeway access meant that it never got above 80% occupancy. Also, the Gayfers anchor underwent several changes within the first few years: Dillard's bought out the Gayfers chain only seven months after the mall opened, so their store was sold to Parisian. This lasted only two years due to the store's unfamiliarity in the market, so it was hastily converted to Burdines in 2000 -- only for Burdines to sell to Macy's in 2003. However, Sears joined as a third anchor in 2000. Occupancy continued to dwindle as shoppers preferred other, larger, and easier to access malls nearby. In addition, many of the other key tenants left as well: f.y.e. closed its large store due to record stores falling out of favor, Foot Locker left as it began to phase out its superstores, and Bed Bath & Beyond moved out because its store was too large, ultimately becoming a gym. One large space originally intended for a restaurant was never even tenanted until a Paul Mitchell cosmetology school opened there in 2012. Finally, the Macy's was one of the locations that the chain closed in 2017.

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* Oviedo Mall, formerly Oviedo Marketplace, in the UsefulNotes/{{Orlando}} suburb of Oviedo. The mall opened to great fanfare in 1998 with department stores Dillard's and Gayfers, Major tenants included a movie theater, Bed Bath & Beyond, and "superstore" locations for both f.y.e. FYE and Foot Locker. However, its small size and poor freeway access meant that it never got above 80% occupancy. Also, the Gayfers anchor underwent several changes within the first few years: Dillard's bought out the Gayfers chain only seven months after the mall opened, so their store was sold to Parisian. This lasted only two years due to the store's unfamiliarity in the market, so it was hastily converted to Burdines in 2000 -- only for Burdines to sell to Macy's in 2003. However, Sears joined as a third anchor in 2000. Occupancy continued to dwindle as shoppers preferred other, larger, and easier to access malls nearby. In addition, many of the other key tenants left as well: f.y.e. FYE closed its large store due to record stores falling out of favor, Foot Locker left as it began to phase out its superstores, and Bed Bath & Beyond moved out because its store was too large, ultimately becoming a gym. One large space originally intended for a restaurant was never even tenanted until a Paul Mitchell cosmetology school opened there in 2012. Finally, the Macy's was one of the locations that the chain closed in 2017.



* Scottsdale Galleria in the Phoenix suburb of Scottsdale went through this very quickly. It opened in 1991 as an upscale mall featuring an IMAX theater, an aquarium, and all sorts of other amenities. However, originally planned anchor store I. Magnin backed out, leaving the mall with no major department store (not that it mattered, since I. Magnin went out of business soon afterward). Also, the S&L crisis had gutted Phoenix's real estate market, and the nearby Scottsdale Fashion Square expanded, luring away potential tenants. After only two years, the mall was foreclosed on and largely closed except for the theater and a TGI Friday's, while plans were drawn up to turn it into a sports complex. These plans failed, as did plans to turn it into a planetarium and a museum. Scenes from ''Film/TankGirl'' were also filmed in the abandoned complex during its long period of abandonment. It was finally converted to offices at the TurnOfTheMillennium.

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* Scottsdale Galleria in the Phoenix suburb of Scottsdale went through this very quickly. It opened in 1991 as an upscale mall featuring an IMAX theater, an aquarium, and all sorts of other amenities. However, originally planned anchor store I. Magnin backed out, leaving the mall with no major department store (not that it mattered, since I. Magnin went out of business soon afterward). Also, the S&L crisis had gutted Phoenix's real estate market, and the nearby Scottsdale Fashion Square expanded, luring away potential tenants. After only two years, the mall was foreclosed on and largely closed except for the theater and a TGI Friday's, while plans were drawn up to turn it into a sports complex. These plans failed, as did plans to turn it into a planetarium and a museum. Scenes from ''Film/TankGirl'' were also filmed in the abandoned complex during its long period of abandonment. It was finally converted to offices at the TurnOfTheMillennium.
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** As of now, construction is projected to be complete in March 2019. Many have come to view the American Dream Meadowlands as one of the biggest boondoggles in New Jersey's history, its equivalent of the Big Dig given how much public money in the form of loans, bonds, and tax breaks has been given to the developers, especially given how many malls already exist in northern New Jersey. Five separate state governors[[note]]Jim [=McGreevey=], Richard Codey, Jon Corzine, Chris Christie, and Phil Murphy[[/note]] have overseen the project, and it has become a joke akin to ''VideoGame/DukeNukemForever'' or ''[[Music/GunsNRoses Chinese Democracy]]'' within the state, such that Terrence T. [=McDonald=], a reporter for the ''Jersey Journal'', [[https://twitter.com/terrencemcd/status/1034504487845679104 suggested on Twitter]] that a future New Jersey governor will be saying that "voters elected me in [[DevelopmentHell 2077]] to get this thing done and we're just about there."

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** As of now, construction is projected to be complete in March June 2019. Many have come to view the American Dream Meadowlands as one of the biggest boondoggles in New Jersey's history, its equivalent of the Big Dig given how much public money in the form of loans, bonds, and tax breaks has been given to the developers, especially given how many malls already exist in northern New Jersey. Five separate state governors[[note]]Jim [=McGreevey=], Richard Codey, Jon Corzine, Chris Christie, and Phil Murphy[[/note]] have overseen the project, and it has become a joke akin to ''VideoGame/DukeNukemForever'' or ''[[Music/GunsNRoses Chinese Democracy]]'' within the state, such that Terrence T. [=McDonald=], a reporter for the ''Jersey Journal'', [[https://twitter.com/terrencemcd/status/1034504487845679104 suggested on Twitter]] that a future New Jersey governor will be saying that "voters elected me in [[DevelopmentHell 2077]] to get this thing done and we're just about there."
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** The question of the route the human chain would take also became a source of controversy. Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy and Representative Ed Markey protested over the fact that the [[HollywoodNewEngland New England]] states were not included in the route, and similar concerns were voiced in the South, the Upper Midwest, and the Pacific Northwest. In UsefulNotes/{{Hawaii}}, Creator/TomSelleck and Senator Daniel Inouye staged a "Hands Across Hawaii" event to remind people on the mainland that Hawaiians were Americans, too.

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** The question of the route the human chain would take also became a source of controversy. Massachusetts In Massachusetts, Senator Ted Kennedy and Representative Ed Markey protested over the fact that the [[HollywoodNewEngland New England]] states were not included in the route, and similar concerns were voiced in the South, the Upper Midwest, and the Pacific Northwest. In UsefulNotes/{{Hawaii}}, Creator/TomSelleck and Senator Daniel Inouye staged a "Hands Across Hawaii" event to remind people on the mainland that Hawaiians were Americans, too.
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** Afterwards, it became apparent that, as a fundraiser, Hands Across America had almost completely failed. Once the large amounts of money spent on the promotion were accounted for, only $15 million was raised for charity, coming in far short of the $50 million that Kragen was hoping for.

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** Afterwards, it became apparent that, as a fundraiser, Hands Across America had almost completely failed. Once the large amounts of money spent on the promotion were accounted for, only $15 million was raised for charity, coming in far short of the $50 million that Kragen was hoping for. However, it ''did'' succeed in raising awareness for the cause of homelessness, such that it has been [[https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/remembering-hands-across-america/2018/05/14/8674e312-41c5-11e8-ad8f-27a8c409298b_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.547525e969c7 credited]] with leading to the passage of the [=McKinney=]-Vento Homeless Assistance Act of 1987, which provided a billion dollars a year for the funding of programs to help the homeless.
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** The participation of President UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan in Hands Across America also aroused controversy, as many activists blamed his cuts to poverty assistance for the problems that the event was designed to raise money and attention for. It didn't help matters when, just days before the event, Reagan made comments indicating that the only reason people were going hungry in America was because they didn't know where or how to get assistance, comments that were widely seen as dismissive of those problems.

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** The participation of President UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan in Hands Across America also aroused controversy, came in for criticism, as many activists blamed his cuts to poverty assistance for the problems that the event was designed to raise money and attention for. It didn't help matters when, just days before the event, Reagan made comments indicating that the only reason people were going hungry in America was because they didn't know where or how to get assistance, comments that were widely seen as dismissive of those problems.
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** The first problem came with the obligatory charity single to promote the event. While the event as a whole boasted the participation of Creator/BillCosby, Creator/LilyTomlin, Music/KennyRogers, and baseball star Pete Rose, Kragen couldn't find any superstar artists for the tie-in song, save for Music/{{Toto}} doing the instrumentals while anonymous studio singers handled the rest of the music. The real problem, however, emerged when it came time to premiere the song. It was meant to premiere at the UsefulNotes/SuperBowl XX halftime show, only to immediately face protest from Music/MichaelJackson over concerns that it would upstage "We Are the World", causing it to be quickly yanked and replaced with a commercial featuring Creator/BillCosby and Creator/LilyTomlin. Needless to say, the song flopped when it was eventually released.

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** The first problem came with the obligatory charity single to promote the event. While the event as a whole boasted the participation of Creator/BillCosby, Creator/LilyTomlin, Music/KennyRogers, and baseball star Pete Rose, Kragen couldn't find any superstar artists for the tie-in song, save for Music/{{Toto}} doing the instrumentals while anonymous studio singers handled the rest of the music. The real problem, however, emerged when it came time to premiere the song. It was meant to premiere at the UsefulNotes/SuperBowl XX halftime show, only to immediately face protest from Music/MichaelJackson over concerns that it would upstage "We Are the World", causing it to be quickly yanked and replaced with a commercial featuring Creator/BillCosby Cosby and Creator/LilyTomlin.Tomlin. Needless to say, the song flopped when it was eventually released.
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* After the success of "Music/WeAreTheWorld", Ken Kragen, the president of the USA for Africa organization, decided to turn his attention towards the issue of hunger and homelessness in his home country. This time, however, a mere CharityMotivationSong wasn't enough. To go along with it, he came up with a far more audacious publicity stunt: Hands Across America, a chain of millions of people holding hands from UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity to Santa Monica, UsefulNotes/{{California}} on May 25, 1986, hoping to raise at least $50 million for the cause. Whereas "We Are the World" was a smashing success, [[https://www.vulture.com/2019/03/hands-across-america-in-jordan-peele-s-us.html Hands Across America was a failure.]]
** The first problem came with the obligatory charity single to promote the event. While the event as a whole boasted the participation of Creator/BillCosby, Creator/LilyTomlin, Music/KennyRogers, and baseball star Pete Rose, Kragen couldn't find any superstar artists for the tie-in song, save for Music/{{Toto}} doing the instrumentals while anonymous studio singers handled the rest of the music. The real problem, however, emerged when it came time to premiere the song. It was meant to premiere at the UsefulNotes/SuperBowl XX halftime show, only to immediately face protest from Music/MichaelJackson over concerns that it would upstage "We Are the World", causing it to be quickly yanked and replaced with a commercial featuring Creator/BillCosby and Creator/LilyTomlin. Needless to say, the song flopped when it was eventually released.
** The question of the route the human chain would take also became a source of controversy. Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy and Representative Ed Markey protested over the fact that the [[HollywoodNewEngland New England]] states were not included in the route, and similar concerns were voiced in the South, the Upper Midwest, and the Pacific Northwest. In UsefulNotes/{{Hawaii}}, Creator/TomSelleck and Senator Daniel Inouye staged a "Hands Across Hawaii" event to remind people on the mainland that Hawaiians were Americans, too.
** The participation of President UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan in Hands Across America also aroused controversy, as many activists blamed his cuts to poverty assistance for the problems that the event was designed to raise money and attention for. It didn't help matters when, just days before the event, Reagan made comments indicating that the only reason people were going hungry in America was because they didn't know where or how to get assistance, comments that were widely seen as dismissive of those problems.
** The event went off mostly without a hitch, with about five million people joining the human chain and another million creating smaller chains elsewhere in the US. However, the American Southwest created major logistical problems, as that region of the country was sparsely populated and filled with unforgiving geography. Out there, gaps in the chain were unavoidable, and had to be filled with ribbons and banners; some cattle ranchers found a creative solution by lining up their steers to take part.
** Afterwards, it became apparent that, as a fundraiser, Hands Across America had almost completely failed. Once the large amounts of money spent on the promotion were accounted for, only $15 million was raised for charity, coming in far short of the $50 million that Kragen was hoping for.


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* Piëch had another one of those with Volkswagen Phaeton. Intended to thrust VW above Mercedes-Benz and BMW in terms of luxury, it was built with Piëch's demands in mind. Most famously it was supposed to be capable of being driven all day at 300 kilometres per hour (186 mph) with an exterior temperature of 50 °C (122 °F) whilst maintaining the interior temperature at 22 °C (72 °F) (even though its top speed was limited to 250 kph and this kind of driving would require frequent refueling stops). This led to delays and development costs going out of control. Ultimately customers were largely unwilling to look beyond VW badge and styling too reminescent of mass-market Passat, which led to lower than expected sales (which was bad news, considering even with sales expected by Volkswagen the Phaeton project would fail to break even). In later years it became somewhat of a CultClassic for being as luxurious and more rare than its counterparts while being very inconspicous and relatively cheap (since new Phaetons depreciated very steeply).

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* Piëch had another one of those with Volkswagen Phaeton. Intended to thrust VW above Mercedes-Benz and BMW in terms of luxury, it was built with Piëch's demands in mind. Most famously famously, it was supposed to be capable of being driven all day at 300 kilometres per hour (186 mph) with an exterior temperature of 50 °C (122 °F) whilst maintaining the interior temperature at 22 °C (72 °F) (even though its top speed was limited to 250 kph and this kind of driving would require frequent refueling stops). This led to delays and development costs going out of control. Ultimately Ultimately, customers were largely unwilling to look beyond the VW badge and styling too reminescent of the mass-market Passat, which led to sales lower than expected sales (which was bad news, considering even with sales expected by Volkswagen the Phaeton project would fail to break even). In later years years, it became somewhat of a CultClassic for being as luxurious and more rare than its counterparts while being very inconspicous and relatively cheap (since new Phaetons depreciated very steeply). steeply).
* Porsche experienced a minor and unfortunate case of this in March 2019 when a freighter carrying, among other vehicles, four 911 [=GT2=] [=RSes=] to customers in Brazil [[https://jalopnik.com/porsche-911-gt2-rs-reportedly-going-back-into-productio-1833402234 caught fire and sank off the coast of France]], taking all its cargo with it. Porsche had to put that model (whose production run had ended in February) back into production in order to meet their orders.
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* Rolling Acres Mall in Akron, Ohio is another one that has been widely documented. It got off to a slow start, as it had been planned as early as 1971, but difficulty in excavating and developing the land set it behind schedule to the point that the city of Akron nearly withdrew building permits. On opening day in 1975, only 21 stores were open for business, despite plans calling for more than 120. By 1977, the mall had filled out to full capacity, with four department stores (J. C. Penney, Sears, Montgomery Ward, and O'Neil's), and nearly all of its 120 stores filled. While Montgomery Ward closed in 1986 due to declining sales, it was quickly replaced with Higbee's, which in turn became Dillard's in 1992. O'Neil's was renamed May Company Ohio in 1989, and again to Kaufmann's in 1993.\\
However, in 1991, the mall owners enacted a cost-cutting measure by hiring "rent-a-cops" instead of off-duty police officers as security. This backfired massively when a riot broke out at the movie theater after a falling metal sign was mistaken by mall patrons for a gunshot during a screening of ''Film/NewJackCity''. This negative publicity, combined with the theater's smaller size, caused it to close in 1993. While mall owners managed to attract Target as a fifth anchor in 1995, both J. C. Penney and Dillard's downgraded their stores to clearance centers. The mall was sold off several times, and by 2001, it was owned by Heywood Whichard, a Raleigh, NC-based businessman known for buying struggling malls at rock-bottom prices just to let them deteriorate. While it was sold off again, the mall's reputation for crime and blight had only exacerbated, to the point that a homeless man was found living in a vacant storefront with over $30,000 in stolen goods from mall merchants. Between 2006 and 2008, Target, Dillard's, and Macy's (which took over Kaufmann's in 2006) had all closed as well, leaving fewer than 30 tenants. Due to an inability to pay for power, the entire mall was shuttered at the end of 2008, with the last eight tenants being evicted at that point (Sears and the J. C. Penney outlet stayed open).\\

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* Rolling Acres Mall in Akron, Ohio is another one that has been widely documented. It got off to a slow start, as it had been planned as early as 1971, but difficulty in excavating and developing the land set it behind schedule to the point that the city of Akron nearly withdrew building permits. On opening day in 1975, only 21 stores were open for business, despite plans calling for more than 120. By 1977, the mall had filled out to full capacity, with four department stores (J. C. Penney, Sears, Montgomery Ward, and O'Neil's), and nearly all of its 120 140 stores filled.filled. It also boasted a movie theater and food court on the second level. While Montgomery Ward closed in 1986 due to declining sales, it was quickly replaced with Higbee's, which in turn became Dillard's in 1992. O'Neil's was renamed May Company Ohio in 1989, and again to Kaufmann's in 1993.\\
However, in 1991, the mall owners enacted a cost-cutting measure by hiring "rent-a-cops" instead of off-duty police officers as security. This backfired massively when a riot broke out at the movie theater after a falling metal sign was mistaken by mall patrons for a gunshot during a screening of ''Film/NewJackCity''. This negative publicity, combined with the theater's smaller size, caused it to close in 1993. While mall owners managed to attract Target as a fifth anchor in 1995, both J. C. Penney and Dillard's downgraded their stores to clearance centers. The centers, and the mall had gained a reputation for being a lower-class "urban" mall, compared to the much nicer Summit Mall to the north in Fairlawn. Rolling Acres was sold off several times, and by 2001, it was owned by Heywood Whichard, a Raleigh, NC-based businessman group known for buying struggling malls at rock-bottom prices just to let them deteriorate. While it was sold off again, the mall's reputation for crime and blight had only exacerbated, to the point that a homeless man was found living in a vacant storefront with over $30,000 in stolen goods from mall merchants. Between 2006 and 2008, Target, Dillard's, Dillard's and Macy's (which took over Kaufmann's in 2006) had all closed as well, leaving fewer than 30 tenants. bought out Kaufmann's) closed, while Target moved to a new location. Due to an inability to pay for power, the entire mall was shuttered at the end of 2008, with the last eight tenants being every tenant getting evicted at that point (Sears except for Sears and the J. C. Penney outlet stayed open).outlet.\\
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* City View, a shopping center in the UsefulNotes/{{Cleveland}}, Ohio suburb of Garfield Heights. It was built in 2006 on the site of a former landfill, which immediately caused problems. UsefulNotes/{{Walmart}} closed abruptly after only two years due to methane leakage, sewage backup, and settling floors. The issues caused by the site abruptly aborted construction, to the point that several outbuildings were left only half-finished, or in the case of a few restaurants and Home Depot, never even begun. With Walmart gone, the other stores in the center trickled out over time (including Circuit City and AJ Wright, both of which went out of business entirely), leaving just a small cluster of stores on safer ground closer to I-480, and a Giant Eagle supermarket all the way at the other end. The main road into the complex was never finished, ending abruptly in a non-functional traffic light that leads only to the Giant Eagle parking lot, and several outbildings still sit unfinished.

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* City View, a shopping center in the UsefulNotes/{{Cleveland}}, Ohio suburb of Garfield Heights. It was built in 2006 on the site of a former landfill, which immediately caused problems. UsefulNotes/{{Walmart}} closed abruptly after only two years due to methane leakage, sewage backup, and settling floors. The issues caused by the site abruptly aborted construction, to the point that several outbuildings were left only half-finished, or in the case of a few restaurants and Home Depot, never even begun. With Walmart gone, the other stores in the center trickled out over time (including Circuit City and AJ Wright, both of which went out of business entirely), leaving just a small cluster of stores on safer ground closer to I-480, and a Giant Eagle supermarket all the way at the other end. The main road into the complex was never finished, ending abruptly in a non-functional traffic light that leads only to the Giant Eagle parking lot, end, and several outbildings still sit unfinished.buildings in various states of abandonment/incompleteness in between.



* [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newmarket_North_Mall Newmarket North Mall]] in Hampton, Virginia eventually fell hard into this.

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* North Towne Square on the north side of Toledo, Ohio was also a troubled mall. Built right below the Michigan border on the site of a former airport, the mall originally included local department stores [=LaSalle's=] and Lion Store, along with Montgomery Ward. However, [=LaSalle's=] was rebranded by parent company Macy's in 1982, and then closed and sold to Elder-Beerman only two years after that. While the mall initially held its own, it quickly lost traffic when Frenchtown Square (now Mall of Monroe, and now [[{{irony}} very dead in its own right]]) opened across the border in Monroe, Michigan in 1988, followed by an expansion of nearby Franklin Park Mall in the early 90s. Elder-Beerman closed in 1997, and Dillard's bought out Lion Store only to close it a year later, leaving just Montgomery Ward until they went out of business in 2001. A gym took the former Montgomery Ward space, but the other two department stores remained vacant, with the mall itself closing in January 2005. An attempt to build a Walmart on the site in 2007 was shut down by city council, so the building sat and decayed. In 2010, the city mayor issued a condemnation notice due to leaking roofs and broken pipes on the vacated property, along with $86,000 in back taxes owed by the building's last owners. The property was finally torn down in 2013 except for the gym.
* Stones River Mall in Murfreesboro, Tennessee (southeast of Nashville) had a rough start. Already delayed from an originally-planned opening of 1984, it remained a vacant lot for several years after that thanks to financial difficulty of the original developers. The mall's original anchor stores (Sears, Walmart, and Goody's Family Clothing) opened in 1989, but other than an Applebee's restaurant, the mall was kept from opening for nearly three years due to said developers going bankrupt. When another company took over and opened it in 1992, much of the mall space was not yet occupied, including a slot for a fourth department store (Anderson's) that went out of business before the mall opened. In addition, Walmart moved to a supercenter next to the mall after only six years. However, things began to turn around when local department store Castner Knott (since bought out by Dillard's) moved into the former Walmart building and J. C. Penney took the last anchor slot. Combined with Murfreesboro's strong economy and the decline of the next-nearest mall in Nashville (Hickory Hollow), the mall quickly got over its rough beginnings. By the TurnOfTheMillennium, both Dillard's and J. C. Penney were moved to larger stores in the mall, freeing up their former locations for further expansion. Not even the addition of a trendy upscale "lifestyle center" mall up the road has diminished Stones River's success any.

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* North Towne Square on the north side of Toledo, Ohio was also a troubled mall. Built right below the Michigan border on the site of a former airport, in 1980, the mall originally included local department stores [=LaSalle's=] and Lion Store, along with Montgomery Ward. However, [=LaSalle's=] was rebranded by parent company Macy's in 1982, and then closed and sold to Elder-Beerman only two years after that. While the mall initially held its own, it quickly lost traffic when Frenchtown Square (now Mall of Monroe, and now [[{{irony}} very dead in its own right]]) opened across the border in Monroe, Michigan in 1988, followed by an expansion of nearby Franklin Park Mall in the early 90s. Elder-Beerman closed in 1997, 1997 during its first bankruptcy (they also had a store in Monroe at the time), and Dillard's bought out Lion Store only to close it a year later, leaving just Montgomery Ward until they went out of business in 2001. A gym took the former Montgomery Ward space, but the other two department stores remained vacant, with the mall itself closing in January 2005. An attempt to build a Walmart on the site in 2007 was shut down by city council, so the building sat and decayed. In 2010, the city mayor issued a condemnation notice due to leaking roofs and broken pipes on the vacated property, along with $86,000 in back taxes owed by the building's last owners. The property was finally torn down in 2013 except for the gym.
* Stones River Mall in Murfreesboro, Tennessee (southeast of Nashville) had managed to recover from a rough start. Already delayed from an originally-planned opening of 1984, it remained a vacant lot for several years after that thanks to financial difficulty of the original developers. The mall's original anchor stores (Sears, Walmart, and Goody's Family Clothing) Goody's) opened in 1989, but other than an Applebee's restaurant, the mall was kept from opening for nearly three years due to said developers going bankrupt. When another company took over and opened it in 1992, much of the mall space was not yet occupied, including a slot for a fourth department store (Anderson's) that went out of business before the mall opened.opened, and a food court that ultimately never took off and got removed. In addition, Walmart moved to a supercenter next to the mall after only six years. However, things began to turn around when local department store Castner Knott (since (which soon got bought out by Dillard's) moved into the former Walmart building and J. C. Penney took the last anchor slot. Combined with Murfreesboro's strong economy and the decline of the next-nearest mall in Nashville (Hickory Hollow), the mall Hollow Mall in Antioch), tenancy quickly got over its rough beginnings. By rose, to the TurnOfTheMillennium, point that both Dillard's and ''and'' J. C. Penney were moved to built newer, larger stores in the mall, freeing to free up their former older locations for further expansion. mall expansions. Not even the addition opening of a trendy upscale an outdoor "lifestyle center" mall up the road has diminished in the early noughties seemed to harm Stones River's success any.River significantly.



* Avenue Mall in downtown Appleton, Wisconsin is a lesson in not building malls in downtown districts. It was proposed in the mid-1980s to link two existing downtown department stores, Gimbels and H. C. Prange Company (Prange's). The mall opened in 1985, requiring the demolition of two city blocks. However, Gimbels went out of business soon after the mall opened, and sold its store to Marshall Field's. The mall was extremely sparse on opening day, with only about 20 tenants open for business. Not helping matters was the opening of Fox Valley Mall out in the suburbs around the same time. Noticing the lack of tenancy, the owners of the Prange's chain announced that they would close the downtown store by 1989 in favor of the Fox Valley store unless Avenue Mall's occupancy reached 70% -- and sure enough, downtown's store was closed in 1989 as promised. Marshall Field's closed in 1991 when the parent company opened a branch of Dayton's over at Fox Valley (which itself would assume the Marshall Field's name in 2001, and become a Macy's in 2006). The downtown mall was already facing foreclosure, but still managed to snag Herberger's in the former Marshall Field's space in 1993, only for then-parent company Saks to rebrand the store to Younkers in 1997. Since Younkers had also gotten into Fox River by taking over Prange's, they closed the downtown store in 2001, leaving the now almost entirely vacant Avenue Mall with no anchors. As a result, the building was renamed City Center, and both former department store spaces were sliced up for offices and ground-facing retail. The mall structure [[https://imgur.com/gallery/Axcq1 still exists]], but it is largely barren except for the occasional office suite.

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* Avenue Mall in downtown Appleton, Wisconsin is a lesson in not building malls in downtown districts. It was proposed in the mid-1980s to link two existing downtown department stores, Gimbels and H. C. Prange Company (Prange's). The mall opened in 1985, requiring the demolition of two city blocks. However, Gimbels went out of business soon after the mall opened, only a year later and sold its their store to Marshall Field's. The mall was extremely sparse on opening day, with only about 20 tenants open for business. Not helping matters was the opening of Fox Valley Mall out in the suburbs around the same time. Noticing the lack of tenancy, the owners of the Prange's chain announced that they would close the downtown store by 1989 in favor of the Fox Valley store unless Avenue Mall's occupancy reached 70% -- and sure enough, downtown's store was closed in 1989 as promised. Marshall Field's closed in 1991 when the parent company opened a branch of Dayton's over at Fox Valley (which itself would assume the Marshall Field's name in 2001, and become a Macy's in 2006). The downtown mall was already facing foreclosure, but still managed to snag Herberger's in the former Marshall Field's space in 1993, only for then-parent company Saks to rebrand the store to Younkers in 1997. Since Younkers had also gotten into Fox River by taking over Prange's, they closed the downtown store in 2001, leaving the now almost entirely vacant Avenue Mall with no anchors. As a result, the building was renamed City Center, and both former department store spaces were sliced up for offices and ground-facing retail. The mall structure [[https://imgur.com/gallery/Axcq1 still exists]], but it is largely barren except for the occasional office suite.
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* ''Animation/PleasantGoatAndBigBigWolf'': ''Mighty Little Defenders'' had a troubled development for half a year. The National Radio and Television Administration forced Creator/CreativePowerEntertaining to edit the fighting scenes to make them more suitable for kids. They also forced CPE to change the weapons. This caused the season to come out much later than expected.

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* Another troubled mall was Eastland Mall, now Eastgate Metroplex, on the east side of Tulsa, Oklahoma. It was to have been opened in the 1970s, but sat half-finished for years due to a myriad of problems, including a worker falling to his death during construction of a Dillard's department store, and developers who pulled funding. It finally opened in 1984 and was initially successful, but in 1999, anchor store Service Merchandise went out of business, ultimately becoming a family entertainment center for a short time. J. C. Penney closed in 2001, starting a mass exodus of stores from the interior mall, while Mervyns closed all three of its Tulsa stores in 2006 (they would go out of business entirely in 2008) and Dillard's, by then downgraded to a clearance center, closed as well. The mall was quickly passed among several owners[[note]]one of whom was Heywood Whichard, a businessman notorious for buying faltering malls and letting them sit and rot, to the point that he has had more than one mall seized via eminent domain[[/note]]. By 2007, the property had almost entirely been converted to offices, except for a few food and service tenants that mainly serve office workers. The mall's short life was due not only to its troubled beginnings and poor anchors, but also a bad location. It was put on the far east side of town, a direction that development just never followed -- the mall building is still largely surrounded by fields, and literally the only peripheral development was a strip mall originally anchored by Target, Marshalls, and Toys "R" Us, but now completely abandoned. It also didn't help that nearby highway expansion provided easier access to the other, more successful malls in the Tulsa area.

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* Another troubled mall was Eastland Mall, now Eastgate Metroplex, on the east side of Tulsa, Oklahoma. It was to have been opened in the 1970s, but sat half-finished for years due to a myriad of problems, including a worker falling to his death during construction of a Dillard's department store, and developers who pulled funding. It finally opened in 1984 and was initially successful, but in 1999, anchor store Service Merchandise went out of business, ultimately becoming a family entertainment center for a short time. J. C. Penney closed in 2001, starting a mass exodus of stores from the interior mall, while Mervyns closed all three of its Tulsa stores in 2006 (they would go out of business entirely in 2008) and Dillard's, by then downgraded to a clearance center, closed as well. The mall was quickly passed among several owners[[note]]one of whom was Heywood Whichard, a businessman notorious for buying faltering malls owners, and letting them sit and rot, to the point that he has had more than one mall seized via eminent domain[[/note]]. By by 2007, the property had it was converted almost entirely been converted to offices, except for a few food and service tenants that mainly serve an office workers.complex. The mall's short life was due not only to its troubled beginnings and poor anchors, but also a bad location. It was put on the far east side of town, a direction that development just never followed -- the mall building is still largely surrounded by fields, and literally the only peripheral development was a strip mall originally anchored by Target, Marshalls, and Toys "R" Us, but now completely abandoned. It also didn't help that nearby highway expansion provided easier access to the other, more successful malls in the Tulsa area.


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* Rolling Acres Mall in Akron, Ohio is another one that has been widely documented. It got off to a slow start, as it had been planned as early as 1971, but difficulty in excavating and developing the land set it behind schedule to the point that the city of Akron nearly withdrew building permits. On opening day in 1975, only 21 stores were open for business, despite plans calling for more than 120. By 1977, the mall had filled out to full capacity, with four department stores (J. C. Penney, Sears, Montgomery Ward, and O'Neil's), and nearly all of its 120 stores filled. While Montgomery Ward closed in 1986 due to declining sales, it was quickly replaced with Higbee's, which in turn became Dillard's in 1992. O'Neil's was renamed May Company Ohio in 1989, and again to Kaufmann's in 1993.\\
However, in 1991, the mall owners enacted a cost-cutting measure by hiring "rent-a-cops" instead of off-duty police officers as security. This backfired massively when a riot broke out at the movie theater after a falling metal sign was mistaken by mall patrons for a gunshot during a screening of ''Film/NewJackCity''. This negative publicity, combined with the theater's smaller size, caused it to close in 1993. While mall owners managed to attract Target as a fifth anchor in 1995, both J. C. Penney and Dillard's downgraded their stores to clearance centers. The mall was sold off several times, and by 2001, it was owned by Heywood Whichard, a Raleigh, NC-based businessman known for buying struggling malls at rock-bottom prices just to let them deteriorate. While it was sold off again, the mall's reputation for crime and blight had only exacerbated, to the point that a homeless man was found living in a vacant storefront with over $30,000 in stolen goods from mall merchants. Between 2006 and 2008, Target, Dillard's, and Macy's (which took over Kaufmann's in 2006) had all closed as well, leaving fewer than 30 tenants. Due to an inability to pay for power, the entire mall was shuttered at the end of 2008, with the last eight tenants being evicted at that point (Sears and the J. C. Penney outlet stayed open).\\
But the problems didn't end there. The vacant mall was auctioned online in 2009, but attracted no buyers. A company bought the building in 2010. Sears closed in 2011, and J. C. Penney Outlet in 2013, leaving the structure fully abandoned except for a storage facility in the old Target. Throughout TheNewTens, the abandoned mall was repeatedly broken into by vandals, scrappers, and urban explorers, including one man who was electrocuted to death when attempting to steal copper wiring. The then-owners stopped paying for security, and blocked attempts by the city to auction it off. It was auctioned off in 2016, but again found no buyers, so ownership was transferred to the city of Akron. The mall was finally torn down in 2017 except for the former Sears, which houses a recycling facility.
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** One of the con board members was Thai Nam Pham, who was [[https://www.theroot.com/it-be-your-own-people-on-universal-fancon-and-the-perv-1825481924 allegedly connected]] with several failed conventions, Pride Con and what might be Akihabara Con, both of which played fast and loose with backer money. Pham's Linked In profile at one point listed one of his tasks on the board as "collaborate with finance team to ensure event is within budget", which [[CaptainObvious it was not]].
** Several board members resigned suspiciously quickly, or, in the case of Jamie Broadnax, the head of Black Girl Nerds, demoted herself to "member" and claimed ignorance, which many saw as facetious as Jamie had previously described herself as a cofounder.
** Compounding this was that many, many fans from marginalized groups now feel they were [[https://www.theroot.com/it-be-your-own-people-on-universal-fancon-and-the-perv-1825481924 scammed by their own]], lured in with promises that Universal Fancon would fix the bad experiences they'd had at other cons, which made it all the more heartbreaking when things went wrong.
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' third edition has had certain issues. In particular, delays due to attempting to get a robust foundation for everything in place were aggravated by one of the writers leaving the team and a developer suffering from persistent health issues. Editing on the corebook also took an extremely long time. The net result was that the finished core product of a kickstarter from 2013 took until 2017 to be sent out to backers. In addition, the developer with health issues had to deal with further problems in his life, resulting in him and the other developer leaving the game and a new developer team taking over

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* Worcester Center in downtown Worcester, Massachusetts, went through this twice. A large urban renewal project in the early 1970s, an attempt to revitalize the then-dying downtown district, cleared out 34 acres of downtown for a massive, three-story shopping mall with Filene's and Jordan Marsh as the anchor stores. Although it opened in 1971 to great fanfare, it was constantly described as struggling; as early as 1973, there were doubts to its long term success. It had a reputation for crime, and its downtown location was inconvenient relative to malls that were already being built in the suburbs, while its size and positioning made for inconvenient traffic patterns downtown (particularly for pedestrians). In the early 1990s, both Filene's and Jordan Marsh closed (the latter going out of business entirely), leaving the mall largely vacant. A developer took over and reopened the mall in 1996 as an outlet center, bringing in a myriad of new "big box" and outlet stores, including Bed Bath & Beyond, Media Play, and Sports Authority. While initially successful, it still suffered from the same logistical problems as its predecessor... and it quickly lost footing when an outlet mall opened in Wrentham in 1997. A rapid decline in tenancy ensued, with nearly all the anchor stores closing in 2004, and finally the mall itself between 2005 and 2006 for redevelopment. The building sat abandoned for years as new developers attempted to secure funding for a new development. Finally by the 2010s, demolition began on most of the property (except the former Filene's-turned-Media Play, which now houses a CVS/pharmacy and some city offices), with many office and retail buildings having displaced most of the former mall's site.
* Avenue Mall in downtown Appleton, Wisconsin is a lesson in not building malls in downtown districts. It was proposed in the mid-1980s to link two existing downtown department stores, Gimbels and H. C. Prange Company (Prange's). The mall opened in 1985, requiring the demolition of two city blocks. However, Gimbels went out of business soon after the mall opened, and sold its store to Marshall Field's. The mall was extremely sparse on opening day, with only about 20 tenants open for business. Not helping matters was the opening of Fox Valley Mall out in the suburbs around the same time. Noticing the lack of tenancy, the owners of the Prange's chain announced that they would close the downtown store by 1989 in favor of the Fox Valley store unless Avenue Mall's occupancy reached 70% -- and sure enough, downtown's store was closed in 1989 as promised. Marshall Field's closed in 1991 when the parent company opened a branch of Dayton's over at Fox Valley. The downtown mall was already facing foreclosure, but still managed to snag Herberger's in the former Marshall Field's space in 1993, only for then-parent company Saks to rebrand the store to Younkers in 1997. Since Younkers had also gotten into Fox River by taking over Prange's, they closed the downtown store in 2001, leaving the now almost entirely vacant Avenue Mall with no anchors. As a result, the building was renamed City Center, and both former department store spaces were sliced up for offices and ground-facing retail. The mall structure [[https://imgur.com/gallery/Axcq1 still exists]], but it is largely barren except for the occasional office suite.

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* Worcester Center in downtown Worcester, Massachusetts, went through this twice. A large urban renewal project in the early 1970s, an attempt to revitalize the then-dying downtown district, cleared out 34 acres of downtown for a massive, three-story shopping mall with Filene's and Jordan Marsh as the anchor stores. Although it opened in 1971 to great fanfare, it was constantly described as struggling; as early as 1973, there were doubts to its long term success. It had a reputation for crime, and its downtown location was inconvenient relative to malls that were already being built in the suburbs, while its size and positioning made for inconvenient traffic patterns downtown (particularly for pedestrians). In Still, it limped along until the early 1990s, both Filene's and when Jordan Marsh closed (the latter going went out of business entirely), leaving the mall largely vacant.entirely and Filene's closed due to declining sales. A developer took over and reopened the mall in 1996 as an outlet center, bringing in a myriad of new "big box" and outlet stores, including Bed Bath & Beyond, Media Play, and Sports Authority. While initially successful, it still suffered from the same logistical problems as its predecessor... and it quickly lost footing when an outlet mall opened in Wrentham in 1997. A rapid decline in tenancy ensued, with nearly all the anchor stores closing in 2004, and finally the mall itself between 2005 and 2006 for redevelopment. The building sat abandoned for years as new developers attempted to secure funding for a new development. Finally by the 2010s, demolition began on most of the property (except the former Filene's-turned-Media Play, which now houses became a CVS/pharmacy and some city offices), with many office and retail buildings having displaced most of the former mall's site.
* Avenue Mall in downtown Appleton, Wisconsin is a lesson in not building malls in downtown districts. It was proposed in the mid-1980s to link two existing downtown department stores, Gimbels and H. C. Prange Company (Prange's). The mall opened in 1985, requiring the demolition of two city blocks. However, Gimbels went out of business soon after the mall opened, and sold its store to Marshall Field's. The mall was extremely sparse on opening day, with only about 20 tenants open for business. Not helping matters was the opening of Fox Valley Mall out in the suburbs around the same time. Noticing the lack of tenancy, the owners of the Prange's chain announced that they would close the downtown store by 1989 in favor of the Fox Valley store unless Avenue Mall's occupancy reached 70% -- and sure enough, downtown's store was closed in 1989 as promised. Marshall Field's closed in 1991 when the parent company opened a branch of Dayton's over at Fox Valley.Valley (which itself would assume the Marshall Field's name in 2001, and become a Macy's in 2006). The downtown mall was already facing foreclosure, but still managed to snag Herberger's in the former Marshall Field's space in 1993, only for then-parent company Saks to rebrand the store to Younkers in 1997. Since Younkers had also gotten into Fox River by taking over Prange's, they closed the downtown store in 2001, leaving the now almost entirely vacant Avenue Mall with no anchors. As a result, the building was renamed City Center, and both former department store spaces were sliced up for offices and ground-facing retail. The mall structure [[https://imgur.com/gallery/Axcq1 still exists]], but it is largely barren except for the occasional office suite.suite.
* Also in the Orlando market was Interstate Mall in Altamonte Springs. Opened in 1974, it immediately got outmoded by the larger Altamonte Mall across the street, and was plagued by poor access from nearby highways. An A&P supermarket which served as one of the anchor stores closed after only two years, and the mall was foreclosed on due to its unprofitability. It was bought by a lender in 1977, and passed on to his sons a year later when he died in a car crash. The new owners did some fixing up in the 1980s, replacing the A&P with Orlando's first TJ Maxx in 1984, while the Montgomery Ward was turned into their discount division, Jefferson's... only for that division to go under in 1985. After a Dallas developer backed out on redevelopment plans in 1986 (which would have included putting home improvement chain Builder's Square in the former Jefferson's), the Jefferson's was turned back into a Montgomery Ward. A Phar-Mor drugstore was added to its east, but it quickly went out of business. The mall was finally put out of its misery in 1995, with the enclosure removed for "big box" stores, and only a small hallway leading to the still operational movie theater in back. But it didn't stop there -- the Montgomery Ward closed again in 1997, and became a Burlington Coat Factory with a Gold's Gym on the upper level. Many of the replacement stores such as [=CompUSA=], Linens 'n Things, and David's Bridal all went out of business, TJ Maxx moved to a new store, and Gold's Gym abruptly closed in 2015, leaving the redeveloped center to struggle a second time.
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* Avenue Mall in downtown Appleton, Wisconsin is a lesson in not building malls in downtown districts. It was proposed in the mid-1980s to link two existing downtown department stores, Gimbels and H. C. Prange Company (Prange's). The mall opened in 1985, requiring the demolition of two city blocks. However, Gimbels went out of business soon after the mall opened, and sold its store to Marshall Field's. The mall was extremely sparse on opening day, with only about 20 tenants open for business. Not helping matters was the opening of Fox Valley Mall out in the suburbs around the same time. Noticing the lack of tenancy, the owners of the Prange's chain announced that they would close the downtown store by 1989 in favor of the Fox Valley store unless Avenue Mall's occupancy reached 70% -- and sure enough, downtown's store was closed in 1989 as promised. Marshall Field's closed in 1991 when the parent company opened a branch of Dayton's over at Fox Valley. The downtown mall was already facing foreclosure, but still managed to snag Herberger's in the former Marshall Field's space in 1993, only for then-parent company Saks to rebrand the store to Younkers in 1997. Since Younkers had also gotten into Fox River by taking over Prange's, they closed the downtown store in 2001, leaving the now almost entirely vacant Avenue Mall with no anchors. As a result, the building was renamed City Center, and both former department store spaces were sliced up for offices and ground-facing retail. The mall structure [[https://imgur.com/gallery/Axcq1 still exists]], but it is largely barren except for the occasional office suite.
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* There's also Illinois Centre Mall in Marion, Illinois. When it was built in 1991, nearby Carbondale already had a fairly succesful mall called University Mall, whose Sears relocated to join the newer center. Many retail analysts thought that the newer mall would win out with its proximity to Interstate 57, along with the fact that its other three anchor stores (Dillard's, Target, and Phar-Mor) were all new to the market. Instead, the newer mall struggled for many years. The first blow was when Phar-Mor went out of business after only two years; as it was at the back of the mall and had poor visibility, the owners had to resort to converting it to offices. Although a few businesses built on the periphery, the interior mall constantly struggled due to its sprawling, awkward floor plan. The original developers sold it off after five years, and it was only 60% leased by 2000. Despite a rename and another change in ownership in the noughties, it continued to bleed tenants -- it didn't help that many of its remaining stores were chains that were either going under entirely or scaling back locations. Also not helping was that Illinois Centre Mall had very poor visibility from both Interstate 57 and Illinois State Highway 13. A 2015 newspaper article revealed that three of the five new owners had been jailed for violating the Sherman Antitrust act; the leasing company was completely unresponsive to inquiries from the tenants; and leasing was further complicated due to the parking lot and each anchor store having its own ownership. In addition to all of this, Sears closed at the mall in early 2018.

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* There's also Illinois Centre Mall in Marion, Illinois. When it was built in 1991, nearby Carbondale already had a fairly succesful mall called University Mall, whose Sears relocated to join the newer center. Many retail analysts thought that the newer mall would win out with its proximity to Interstate 57, along with the fact that its other three anchor stores (Dillard's, Target, and Phar-Mor) were all new to the market. Instead, the newer mall struggled for many years. The first blow was when Phar-Mor went out of business after only two years; as it was at the back of the mall and had poor visibility, the owners had to resort to converting it to offices. Although a few businesses built on the periphery, the interior mall constantly struggled due to its sprawling, awkward floor plan. The original developers sold it off after five years, and it was only 60% leased by 2000. Despite a rename and another change in ownership in the noughties, it continued to bleed tenants -- it didn't help that many of its remaining stores were chains that were either going under entirely or scaling back locations. Also not helping was that Illinois Centre Mall had very poor visibility from both Interstate 57 and Illinois State Highway 13. A 2015 newspaper article revealed that three of the five new owners had been jailed for violating the Sherman Antitrust act; the leasing company was completely unresponsive to inquiries from the tenants; and leasing was further complicated due to the parking lot and each anchor store having its own ownership. In addition to all of this, Sears closed at in spring 2018, and the mall few remaining tenants were evicted in early 2018.fall 2018 (except for Target, Dillard's, and the businesses in the old Phar-Mor space).
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** ''Galileo'', a probe designed to be launched from the Space Shuttle, had its launch date delayed several years due to the explosion of the ''Challenger'' shuttle and due to safety issues it had to use a less powerful rocket to be launched from the latter, meaning more time to reach Jupiter, and as its lubricant eroded away during those years in store the main antenna did not fully deploy meaning less data to be transmitted back.
** ''Cassini'' suffered budgetary cuts that forced its redesign, the contempt of NASA's administrator at the time who called it derisively "Battlestar Galactica" due to its size and high cost, and was close to be cancelled several times only saving it that ''Huygens'', a lander designed to land on Titan (Saturn's largest moon), was European-built and it was worried had the mission been cancelled the resentment felt by Europe after having expended so much money on said lander could extent to other areas beyond space exploration. Despite all those troubles, both missions were great successes at the end, especially the latter.
* Speaking of the ''Challenger'', its doomed flight was caused by this trope, mostly thanks to NASA not heeding its own safety instructions.
** The shuttle launch was supposed to occur at 2:42 PM Eastern Standard on January 22, 1986. However, a series of delays caused them to push it back until January 28th. These delays included delays from a previous mission, bad weather at a Transoceanic Abort Landing site at Dakar, numerous bad weather moments and problems with its exterior access hatch.
** On January 27th, Thiokol, the company who made the O-rings that would contribute to the destruction of the shuttle, had their engineers realized that the launch date would be unsuitable for the launch as the O-rings were not rated for a launch temperature so low (they were rated at 40 degrees F, launch day would only have it at 30) and desperately called NASA for a conference call to beg the group to delay the launch until it got warmer. NASA refused, most likely due to Thiokol's hastily-made presentation. Thiokol tried again, but only with the management of the two groups. Amazingly, Thiokol management gave the thumbs up for it, with one shocked engineer admitting to his wife that ''Challenger'' would be destroyed.
** The day of the launch, Rockwell International, the main contractors for the shuttles, was aghast at the amount of ice on the shuttle and feared that ice build up could damage the shuttle upon ascent. As well, the temperature that day was colder than most launches at about 28 degrees F. Rockwell tried to warn NASA to scuttle the mission, but they ended up only delaying until around 11:38 AM.

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** ''Galileo'', a probe designed to be launched from the Space Shuttle, had its launch date delayed several years due to the explosion of the ''Challenger'' shuttle and due disaster. Due to safety issues issues, it also had to use a less powerful rocket to be launched from the latter, shuttle, meaning it took more time to reach Jupiter, and as its lubricant eroded away during those years in store the years-long journey that the main antenna did not fully deploy deploy, meaning less data to could be transmitted back.
** ''Cassini'' suffered budgetary cuts that forced its redesign, the contempt of NASA's administrator at the time who called it derisively "Battlestar Galactica" due to its size and high cost, and was close to be cancelled several times times. The only saving it thing that ''Huygens'', a lander saved it was the fact that the ''Huygens'' lander, designed to land on Titan (Saturn's largest moon), was European-built and European-built; it was worried had the mission been cancelled the resentment felt by Europe after having expended so much money on said lander could extent extend to other areas beyond space exploration. Despite all those troubles, both missions were great successes at the end, especially the latter.
* Speaking of the ''Challenger'', its doomed flight was caused by this trope, mostly thanks to NASA not heeding its own safety instructions.
** The shuttle launch was supposed to occur at 2:42 PM Eastern Standard Time on January 22, 1986. However, a series of delays caused them to push it back until January 28th. These delays included delays from a previous mission, bad weather at a Transoceanic Abort Landing site at Dakar, numerous bad weather moments and problems with its exterior access hatch.
** On January 27th, engineers for Thiokol, the company who made the O-rings that would contribute to the destruction of the shuttle, had their engineers shuttle's destruction, realized that the launch date would be unsuitable for the launch as the O-rings were not rated for a launch temperature so low (they were rated at 40 degrees F, while launch day would only have it at 30) and desperately called NASA for a conference call to beg the group to delay the launch until it got warmer. NASA refused, most likely due to Thiokol's hastily-made presentation. Thiokol tried again, but only with the management of the two groups. Amazingly, Thiokol management gave the thumbs up for it, with one shocked engineer admitting to his wife that ''Challenger'' would be destroyed.
** The day of the launch, Rockwell International, the main contractors for the NASA's shuttles, was aghast at the amount of ice on the shuttle ''Challenger'' and feared that ice build up could damage the shuttle upon ascent. As well, the temperature that day was colder than most launches launches, at about 28 degrees F. Rockwell tried to warn NASA to scuttle the mission, but they ended up only delaying until around 11:38 AM.



** Various investigations were launched as to what happened to cause the shuttle to fail. Ultimately, blame was to placed at NASA and Thiokol's feet for their blatant disregard to the warnings laid out by many.

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** Various investigations were launched as to what happened to cause the shuttle ''Challenger'' to fail. Ultimately, blame was to placed at NASA and Thiokol's feet for their blatant disregard to the warnings laid out by many.
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** In the end, Jordan admitted she was in fact Amy and that the whole thing was a sham so she could try to build a new identity. Police told her never to come to Oregon again or face arrest. She eventually was caught (while waiting in line to see ''Return of the King'' in Portland), but the DA declined to press charges. After a number of unrelated shanenigans, Amy eventually underwent sexual reassignment, legally changing her name to Andrew "Andy" Blake. Andy then moved to the ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' fandom, where he became a minor {{BNF}} after his fic ''FanFic/DumbledoresArmyAndTheYearOfDarkness'' became popular. He was later involved in a triple homicide that claimed the life of one of his friends. He survived, but used the incident as an excuse to solicit donations to travel to New Zealand.

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** In the end, Jordan admitted she was in fact Amy and that the whole thing was a sham so she could try to build a new identity. Police told her never to come to Oregon again or face arrest. She eventually was caught (while waiting in line to see ''Return of the King'' in Portland), but the DA declined to press charges. After a number of unrelated shanenigans, Amy eventually underwent sexual reassignment, legally changing her name to Andrew "Andy" Blake. Andy then moved to the ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' fandom, where he became a minor {{BNF}} BigNameFan after his fic ''FanFic/DumbledoresArmyAndTheYearOfDarkness'' became popular. He was later involved in a triple homicide that claimed the life of one of his friends. He survived, but used the incident as an excuse to solicit donations to travel to New Zealand.



** As for the two authors' relationship, [[WeUsedToBeFriends it's been dead in the water for months now]]. While Jake's bailout marked the beginning of the end between them, actual tensions began when Rover stated a refusal to help him with any of ''his'' fanfiction until he deliver a make-up assignment of some sort. It was not long after that Rover got some answers out of Jake regarding what he actually hated about the story, but even when he offered concessions on two such aspects, things went nowhere from there in terms of winning him back, which led Rover to believe that he just wanted to be catered to and to do whatever he'd damn well please and was now being a poor sport over not having had his way through and through to begin with. Soon thereafter, Rover offered Jake a break from it all, but then impulsively demanded more answers about the situation, going on to tell him on his blog to go fuck himself when he thought he was ignoring him, before he revealed he was actually on a family trip and decided right then and there that that was it. Starting with a botched apology in response, things went on and off for months, and seemed to take a better turn for their friendship itself when Rover offered at least not to talk about his fetishes or [[Anime/LuckyStar a certain show Jake also hates]], before deciding to let more time go by before he'd express his actual issues outside of but related to Jake's departure. Only a month went by as Rover proceeded to elaborate in a [=WordPad=] file meant for much later on, before he broke down and expressed the toll such a thing was taking on his mental health, at which point Jake urged him, more out of guilt and despair than frustration, just to forget about him altogether. And to begin with, [[https://dmxrated.dreamwidth.org/720094.html as Rover went on to post onto his blog:]]

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** As for the two authors' relationship, [[WeUsedToBeFriends it's been dead in the water for months now]].now. While Jake's bailout marked the beginning of the end between them, actual tensions began when Rover stated a refusal to help him with any of ''his'' fanfiction until he deliver a make-up assignment of some sort. It was not long after that Rover got some answers out of Jake regarding what he actually hated about the story, but even when he offered concessions on two such aspects, things went nowhere from there in terms of winning him back, which led Rover to believe that he just wanted to be catered to and to do whatever he'd damn well please and was now being a poor sport over not having had his way through and through to begin with. Soon thereafter, Rover offered Jake a break from it all, but then impulsively demanded more answers about the situation, going on to tell him on his blog to go fuck himself when he thought he was ignoring him, before he revealed he was actually on a family trip and decided right then and there that that was it. Starting with a botched apology in response, things went on and off for months, and seemed to take a better turn for their friendship itself when Rover offered at least not to talk about his fetishes or [[Anime/LuckyStar a certain show Jake also hates]], before deciding to let more time go by before he'd express his actual issues outside of but related to Jake's departure. Only a month went by as Rover proceeded to elaborate in a [=WordPad=] file meant for much later on, before he broke down and expressed the toll such a thing was taking on his mental health, at which point Jake urged him, more out of guilt and despair than frustration, just to forget about him altogether. And to begin with, [[https://dmxrated.dreamwidth.org/720094.html as Rover went on to post onto his blog:]]



** Australian-based developers LJ Hooker acquired the land for Forest Fair Mall in the mid-1980s. The site, on the north side of the beltway, was originally slated to have just Bigg's (a local supercenter chain), which LJ Hooker chose to be an anchor to a massive 1.5 million square foot mall -- the second largest in the state at the time, despite being only a few miles from both Tri-County and Northgate malls. The other anchor stores were to be Higbee's (based out of Cleveland) and four other upscale regional department stores (Bonwit Teller, B. Altman and Company, Parisian, and Sakowitz) that LJ Hooker bought controlling interest in, just to force them into the mall. Right as the first phase of the mall opened in 1988 (comprising Bigg's and twenty other stores), Higbee's canceled their plans, so B. Altman was hastily moved to their space and Elder-Beerman (based in nearby Dayton) took B. Altman's original spot. Even before the mall opened, many anaylsts felt that the four upscale department stores that Hooker had purchased were poor choices, due to both their unfamiliarity with the market (Bonwit Teller and B. Altman were both based in New York City; Parisian in Birmingham, Alabama; and Sakowitz in Houston) and the more blue-collar demographics of the neighborhoods around the mall. In addition, Tri-County Mall added a second level and another department store at this point. Despite the cards being stacked against it, Forest Fair fully opened in 1989, featuring such lavish tenants as an Australian brewery, the first licensed day care center in a US shopping mall, a huge arcade/entertainment center called Time Out, and a sprawling food court.

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** Australian-based developers LJ Hooker acquired the land for Forest Fair Mall in the mid-1980s. The site, on the north side of the beltway, was originally slated to have just Bigg's (a local supercenter chain), which LJ Hooker chose to be an anchor to a massive 1.5 million square foot mall -- the second largest in the state at the time, despite being only a few miles from both Tri-County and Northgate malls. The other anchor stores were to be Higbee's (based out of Cleveland) and four other upscale regional department stores (Bonwit Teller, B. Altman and Company, Parisian, and Sakowitz) that LJ Hooker bought controlling interest in, just to force them into the mall. Right as the first phase of the mall opened in 1988 (comprising Bigg's and twenty other stores), Higbee's canceled their plans, so B. Altman was hastily moved to their space and Elder-Beerman (based in nearby Dayton) took B. Altman's original spot. Even before the mall opened, many anaylsts analysts felt that the four upscale department stores that Hooker had purchased were poor choices, due to both their unfamiliarity with the market (Bonwit Teller and B. Altman were both based in New York City; Parisian in Birmingham, Alabama; and Sakowitz in Houston) and the more blue-collar demographics of the neighborhoods around the mall. In addition, Tri-County Mall added a second level and another department store at this point. Despite the cards being stacked against it, Forest Fair fully opened in 1989, featuring such lavish tenants as an Australian brewery, the first licensed day care center in a US shopping mall, a huge arcade/entertainment center called Time Out, and a sprawling food court.



** Various investigations were launched as to what happened to cause the shuttle to fail. Ultimately, blame was to placed on NASA and Thiokol's feet for their blatant disregard to the warnings laid out by many.

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** One thing also worth noting in particular is their dispute about [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Jamie]] (now [[Anime/TheLegendOfThunder Jimmy]]) having muscles, towards the end of 2012. The author asked Jake at least three times not to buff him up, which he ignored as he proceeded just to do things his way and then tell him to redo the relevant scenes himself. He did redo some of them after being called out for his disobedience, but not before justifying himself first and arguing with him, and even then, there were still some things left that only muscles could explain (which he only managed to get rid of years later by having someone else do the whole chapter over). Eventually, this was one of the few things he cited when asked multiple times to cite what he came to hate about the story itself.
*** There is also the issue of the [=PokeWalker=], one of Rover's favorite aspects of a pair of games that Jake very outright ''hates'' to this day.
** As for the two authors' relationship, [[WeUsedToBeFriends it's been dead in the water for months now]]. While Jake's bailout marked the beginning of the end between them, actual tensions began when Rover stated a refusal to help him with any of ''his'' fanfiction until he deliver a make-up assignment of some sort. It was not long after that Rover got some answers out of Jake regarding what he actually hated about the story, but even when he offered concessions on two such aspects, things went nowhere from there in terms of winning him back, which led Rover to believe that he just wanted to be catered to and to do whatever he'd damn well please and was now being a poor sport over not having had his way through and through to begin with. Soon thereafter, Rover offered Jake a break from it all, but then impulsively demanded more answers about the situation, going on to tell him on his blog to go fuck himself when he thought he was ignoring him, before he revealed he was actually on a family trip and decided right then and there that that was it. Starting with a botched apology in response, things went on and off for months, and seemed to take a better turn for their friendship itself when Rover offered at least not to talk about his fetishes or [[Anime/LuckyStar a certain show Jake also hates]], before deciding to let more time go by before he'd express his actual issues outside of but related to Jake's departure. Only a month went by as Rover proceeded to elaborate in a [=WordPad=] file meant for much later on, before he broke down and expressed the toll such a thing was taking on his mental health, at which point Jake urged him, more out of guilt and despair than frustration, just to forget about him altogether.
*** And to begin with, [[https://dmxrated.dreamwidth.org/720094.html as Rover went on to post onto his blog:]]
--->''What I wanted to make sense of, was why he requested all kinds of stuff to make happen in Unwilling Service if he actually hated it so much. He wanted Mewtwo to Mega Evolve a certain way (can't remember between his X or Y forms), he wanted Dawn to try being a nudist like the protagonists and to participate in the Pal Park, he wanted Jamie to be naked upon meeting each of the Pokemon Idols, and even when he admitted his lack of interest in gym quests, he still went on to suggest ways to make it more interesting, asked to see my first entry about the story, requested a trial run of the Pal Park, and asked that each of the mains have a rival to compete against for that event. All of that, on top of requesting that I go through my blog to tag each entry where I talked about Pokemon, mentioning someone who found the premise amusing, sharing certain things with me like that tabletop game and something about parallel universes, and before I previously abandoned it, asking me to find it within me to care about it again. He even said yes when I asked if he'd ever be interested in a hypothetical visual adaptation of some sort. That's what I mean when I talk about any interest he displayed up until telling me he can't do it anymore, not just because of his lifestyle, but because he couldn't stand all the halfway measures we had to make. Can you say, "two-faced hypocrisy?"''

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** One thing also worth noting in particular is their dispute about [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Jamie]] (now [[Anime/TheLegendOfThunder Jimmy]]) having muscles, muscles sparked a major dispute towards the end of 2012. The author asked Jake at least three times not to buff him up, which he ignored as he proceeded just to do things his way and then tell him to redo the relevant scenes himself. He did redo some of them after being called out for his disobedience, but not before justifying himself first and arguing with him, and even then, there were still some things left that only muscles could explain (which he only managed to get rid of years later by having someone else do the whole chapter over). Eventually, this was one of the few things he cited when asked multiple times to cite what he came to hate about the story itself.
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itself. There is also the issue of the [=PokeWalker=], one of Rover's favorite aspects of a pair of games that Jake very outright ''hates'' to this day.
** As for the two authors' relationship, [[WeUsedToBeFriends it's been dead in the water for months now]]. While Jake's bailout marked the beginning of the end between them, actual tensions began when Rover stated a refusal to help him with any of ''his'' fanfiction until he deliver a make-up assignment of some sort. It was not long after that Rover got some answers out of Jake regarding what he actually hated about the story, but even when he offered concessions on two such aspects, things went nowhere from there in terms of winning him back, which led Rover to believe that he just wanted to be catered to and to do whatever he'd damn well please and was now being a poor sport over not having had his way through and through to begin with. Soon thereafter, Rover offered Jake a break from it all, but then impulsively demanded more answers about the situation, going on to tell him on his blog to go fuck himself when he thought he was ignoring him, before he revealed he was actually on a family trip and decided right then and there that that was it. Starting with a botched apology in response, things went on and off for months, and seemed to take a better turn for their friendship itself when Rover offered at least not to talk about his fetishes or [[Anime/LuckyStar a certain show Jake also hates]], before deciding to let more time go by before he'd express his actual issues outside of but related to Jake's departure. Only a month went by as Rover proceeded to elaborate in a [=WordPad=] file meant for much later on, before he broke down and expressed the toll such a thing was taking on his mental health, at which point Jake urged him, more out of guilt and despair than frustration, just to forget about him altogether. \n*** And to begin with, [[https://dmxrated.dreamwidth.org/720094.html as Rover went on to post onto his blog:]]
--->''What --->What I wanted to make sense of, was why he requested all kinds of stuff to make happen in Unwilling Service if he actually hated it so much. He wanted Mewtwo to Mega Evolve a certain way (can't remember between his X or Y forms), he wanted Dawn to try being a nudist like the protagonists and to participate in the Pal Park, he wanted Jamie to be naked upon meeting each of the Pokemon Idols, and even when he admitted his lack of interest in gym quests, he still went on to suggest ways to make it more interesting, asked to see my first entry about the story, requested a trial run of the Pal Park, and asked that each of the mains have a rival to compete against for that event. All of that, on top of requesting that I go through my blog to tag each entry where I talked about Pokemon, mentioning someone who found the premise amusing, sharing certain things with me like that tabletop game and something about parallel universes, and before I previously abandoned it, asking me to find it within me to care about it again. He even said yes when I asked if he'd ever be interested in a hypothetical visual adaptation of some sort. That's what I mean when I talk about any interest he displayed up until telling me he can't do it anymore, not just because of his lifestyle, but because he couldn't stand all the halfway measures we had to make. Can you say, "two-faced hypocrisy?"''hypocrisy?"
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** It's possible the fallout from the con even helped kill the entire [=SuperWhoLock=] fandom, or at the least made it undesirable to publicly claim affiliation with it, as people began to notice after the con that the presence of the fandoms on the site dropped considerably. While there were likely other factors at play such as SeasonalRot for all three shows and the long breaks between seasons for ''Sherlock'' and ''Doctor Who'' [[note]]also, Matt Smith had just left ''Who'' to be succeeded by Peter Capaldi[[/note]] -- see [[http://phantomrose96.tumblr.com/post/146802889137/agriff11-phantomrose96 here]] for further analysis on these issues -- Dashcon seems to have been the turning point.

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** It's possible the fallout from the con even helped kill the entire [=SuperWhoLock=] fandom, or at the least made it undesirable to publicly claim affiliation with it, as people began to notice after the con that the presence of the fandoms on the site dropped considerably. While there were likely other factors at play such as SeasonalRot for all three shows and the long breaks between seasons for ''Sherlock'' and ''Doctor Who'' [[note]]also, Matt Smith had just left ''Who'' to be succeeded by the considerably less [[MrFanservice fangirl-friendly]] Peter Capaldi[[/note]] -- see [[http://phantomrose96.tumblr.com/post/146802889137/agriff11-phantomrose96 here]] for further analysis on these issues -- Dashcon seems to have been the turning point.
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** As of now, construction is projected to be complete in March 2019. Many have come to view the American Dream Meadowlands as one of the biggest boondoggles in New Jersey's history, its equivalent of the Big Dig given how much public money in the form of loans, bonds, and tax breaks has been given to the developers, especially given how many malls already exist in northern New Jersey. Five separate state governors[[note]]Jim [=McGreevey=], Richard Codey, Jon Corzine, Chris Christie, and Phil Murphy[[/note]] have overseen the project, and it has become a joke akin to ''VideoGame/DukeNukemForever'' or ''[[Music/GunsNRoses Chinese Democracy]]'' within the state, such that Terrence T. [=McDonald=], a writer for the ''Jersey Journal'', [[https://twitter.com/terrencemcd/status/1034504487845679104 suggested on Twitter]] that a future New Jersey governor will be saying that "voters elected me in [[DevelopmentHell 2077]] to get this thing done and we're just about there."

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** As of now, construction is projected to be complete in March 2019. Many have come to view the American Dream Meadowlands as one of the biggest boondoggles in New Jersey's history, its equivalent of the Big Dig given how much public money in the form of loans, bonds, and tax breaks has been given to the developers, especially given how many malls already exist in northern New Jersey. Five separate state governors[[note]]Jim [=McGreevey=], Richard Codey, Jon Corzine, Chris Christie, and Phil Murphy[[/note]] have overseen the project, and it has become a joke akin to ''VideoGame/DukeNukemForever'' or ''[[Music/GunsNRoses Chinese Democracy]]'' within the state, such that Terrence T. [=McDonald=], a writer reporter for the ''Jersey Journal'', [[https://twitter.com/terrencemcd/status/1034504487845679104 suggested on Twitter]] that a future New Jersey governor will be saying that "voters elected me in [[DevelopmentHell 2077]] to get this thing done and we're just about there."
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* The American Dream Meadowlands megamall in East Rutherford, UsefulNotes/NewJersey, part of the vast Meadowlands Sports Complex that includes [=MetLife=] Stadium (home field of the [[UsefulNotes/NationalFootballLeague New York Giants and Jets]]) and the Meadowlands Arena (former home of the [[UsefulNotes/NationalHockeyLeague New Jersey Devils]] and the then-[[UsefulNotes/NationalBasketballAssociation New Jersey Nets]]), was first proposed in the early '00s by the Mills Corporation as the Meadowlands Xanadu, described as "a new standard for bringing lifestyle, recreation, sports and family entertainment offerings together in one location." This would be no ordinary mall -- it would have an [[UsefulNotes/NationalHockeyLeague NHL-sized]] UsefulNotes/IceHockey rink, a minigolf course, an indoor water park and Creator/{{DreamWorks|Animation}} theme park, an twelve-story, 800-foot indoor ski slope, a 26-screen movie theater with an outdoor lounge overlooking Manhattan, a concert hall, and to top it all off, the Pepsi Globe, a 287-foot-tall Ferris wheel. [[http://www.gq.com/story/five-billion-dollar-new-jersey-mega-mall-american-dream-meadowlands This profile]] in ''GQ'' describes it as something "ripped from the pages of Creator/DavidFosterWallace's dystopian novel ''Literature/InfiniteJest''." Ground was broken in 2004, with expected completion in two years. [[http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/10/does-america-still-want-the-american-dream/409804/ It's still under construction]] as of this writing, with the $5 billion that has been sunk into it making it the most expensive retail project in history.

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* The American Dream Meadowlands megamall in East Rutherford, UsefulNotes/NewJersey, part of the vast Meadowlands Sports Complex that includes [=MetLife=] Stadium (home field of the [[UsefulNotes/NationalFootballLeague New York Giants and Jets]]) and the Meadowlands Arena (former home of the [[UsefulNotes/NationalHockeyLeague New Jersey Devils]] and the then-[[UsefulNotes/NationalBasketballAssociation New Jersey Nets]]), was first proposed in the early '00s by the Mills Corporation as the Meadowlands Xanadu, described as "a new standard for bringing lifestyle, recreation, sports and family entertainment offerings together in one location." This would be no ordinary mall -- it would have an [[UsefulNotes/NationalHockeyLeague NHL-sized]] UsefulNotes/IceHockey rink, a minigolf course, an indoor water park and Creator/{{DreamWorks|Animation}} theme park, an twelve-story, 800-foot indoor ski slope, a 26-screen movie theater with an outdoor lounge overlooking Manhattan, a concert hall, and to top it all off, the Pepsi Globe, a 287-foot-tall Ferris wheel. [[http://www.gq.com/story/five-billion-dollar-new-jersey-mega-mall-american-dream-meadowlands This profile]] in ''GQ'' describes it as something "ripped from the pages of Creator/DavidFosterWallace's dystopian novel ''Literature/InfiniteJest''." Ground The project was announced in 2002 and ground was broken in 2004, with expected completion in two years. [[http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/10/does-america-still-want-the-american-dream/409804/ It's still under construction]] as of this writing, with the $5 billion that has been sunk into it making it the most expensive retail project in history.



** As of now, construction is projected to be complete in March 2019. Many have come to view the American Dream Meadowlands as one of the biggest boondoggles in New Jersey's history, its equivalent of the Big Dig given how much public money in the form of loans, bonds, and tax breaks has been given to the developers, especially given how many malls already exist in northern New Jersey.

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** As of now, construction is projected to be complete in March 2019. Many have come to view the American Dream Meadowlands as one of the biggest boondoggles in New Jersey's history, its equivalent of the Big Dig given how much public money in the form of loans, bonds, and tax breaks has been given to the developers, especially given how many malls already exist in northern New Jersey. Five separate state governors[[note]]Jim [=McGreevey=], Richard Codey, Jon Corzine, Chris Christie, and Phil Murphy[[/note]] have overseen the project, and it has become a joke akin to ''VideoGame/DukeNukemForever'' or ''[[Music/GunsNRoses Chinese Democracy]]'' within the state, such that Terrence T. [=McDonald=], a writer for the ''Jersey Journal'', [[https://twitter.com/terrencemcd/status/1034504487845679104 suggested on Twitter]] that a future New Jersey governor will be saying that "voters elected me in [[DevelopmentHell 2077]] to get this thing done and we're just about there."
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* Speaking of the ''Challenger'', its doomed flight was caused by this trope, mostly thanks to NASA not heeding its own safety instructions.
** The shuttle launch was supposed to occur at 2:42 PM Eastern Standard on January 22, 1986. However, a series of delays caused them to push it back until January 28th. These delays included delays from a previous mission, bad weather at a Transoceanic Abort Landing site at Dakar, numerous bad weather moments and problems with its exterior access hatch.
** On January 27th, Thiokol, the company who made the O-rings that would contribute to the destruction of the shuttle, had their engineers realized that the launch date would be unsuitable for the launch as the O-rings were not rated for a launch temperature so low (they were rated at 40 degrees F, launch day would only have it at 30) and desperately called NASA for a conference call to beg the group to delay the launch until it got warmer. NASA refused, most likely due to Thiokol's hastily-made presentation. Thiokol tried again, but only with the management of the two groups. Amazingly, Thiokol management gave the thumbs up for it, with one shocked engineer admitting to his wife that ''Challenger'' would be destroyed.
** The day of the launch, Rockwell International, the main contractors for the shuttles, was aghast at the amount of ice on the shuttle and feared that ice build up could damage the shuttle upon ascent. As well, the temperature that day was colder than most launches at about 28 degrees F. Rockwell tried to warn NASA to scuttle the mission, but they ended up only delaying until around 11:38 AM.
** Everything went swell until, over a minute after launch, everything fell apart, hot gases escaped from a hole created from the damaged O-rings as well as sudden wind sheer, causing a series of cascading failures that lead to the shuttle's sad destruction on live television.
** Various investigations were launched as to what happened to cause the shuttle to fail. Ultimately, blame was to placed on NASA and Thiokol's feet for their blatant disregard to the warnings laid out by many.
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updating the Newmarket North Net Center entry with the Sears location a casualty of Sears Holdings' bankruptcy filing this week


** After Thomas Nelson Community College and Colonial Downs turned down offers, Bell Atlantic[[note]]now Verizon[[/note]] moved into the vacant Miller & Rhoads, where it remains. Shortly after buying out the numerous partnerships, Belk left the former Leggett location. Other large spaces would be occupied by AMSEC, an engineering firm for the U.S. Navy, and training facilities for the nearby Newport News Shipyard by 2003, with the property eventually renamed [=NetCenter=]. The office buildings that currently occupy the former store spaces are closed to the public, with the only spaces remaining available to the public are the Sears location (due to Sears owning the property) and a Piccadilly Cafeteria, and with Sears Holdings' increasingly precarious financial position the future of the lone remaining retail and eatery establishments remain very much in doubt.

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** After Thomas Nelson Community College and Colonial Downs turned down offers, Bell Atlantic[[note]]now Verizon[[/note]] moved into the vacant Miller & Rhoads, where it remains. Shortly after buying out the numerous partnerships, Belk left the former Leggett location. Other large spaces would be occupied by AMSEC, an engineering firm for the U.S. Navy, and training facilities for the nearby Newport News Shipyard by 2003, with the property eventually renamed [=NetCenter=]. The office buildings that currently occupy the former store spaces are closed to the public, with the only spaces remaining available to the public are the Sears location (due to Sears owning the property) and a Piccadilly Cafeteria, and with Sears Holdings' increasingly precarious financial position the future of October 2018 Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection announcement resulting in that Sears location being set to close; leaving Piccadilly Cafeteria (which would be the lone remaining retail and eatery establishments remain remnant of Newmarket North Mall operational once that Sears location closes its doors) with a very much in doubt.uncertain future.

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