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* IKnewIt:
** Many fans guessed that [[spoiler: the Simian Flu would be the reason the humans lost speech in the ape-ruled future]].
** Quite a few viewers felt that [[spoiler: Koba would appear in either flashbacks or as a hallucination]].
** Due to the film being touted as the GrandFinale to the story arc started in ''Rise'', [[spoiler: Caesar's death]] was predicted by many viewers.
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** Once again Creator/WoodyHarrelson plays a militaristic survivalist in an actual post-apocalypse.

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** Once again Creator/WoodyHarrelson plays a militaristic [[Film/{{Zombieland}} vengeful survivalist in an actual post-apocalypse.the post-apocalypse who has a dead son]].
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** Creator/AndySerkis returns to his role as Caesar, not just a [[Film/LordOfTheRings CGI Motion Capture character]], but [[Film/KingKong2005 another super-ape]].

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** Creator/AndySerkis returns to his role as Caesar, not just a [[Film/LordOfTheRings [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings CGI Motion Capture character]], but [[Film/KingKong2005 another super-ape]].
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** Creator/AndySerkis returns to his role as Ceasar, not just a [[Film/LordOfTheRings CGI Motion Capture character]], but [[Film/KingKong2005 another super-ape]].

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** Creator/AndySerkis returns to his role as Ceasar, Caesar, not just a [[Film/LordOfTheRings CGI Motion Capture character]], but [[Film/KingKong2005 another super-ape]].
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** One for Bad Ape and Creator/SteveZahn, and showcasing the beauty of performance capture technology: When Bad Ape charges off to grab food for Caesar and company, Zahn actually fell. Performance capture meant Bad Ape could slip and fall accidentally, too, the kind of spontaneity you can't get from a purely-CGI character.

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** One for Bad Ape and Creator/SteveZahn, and showcasing the beauty of performance capture technology: When Bad Ape charges off to grab food for Caesar and company, Zahn actually fell. Performance capture on-set meant Bad Ape could slip and fall accidentally, too, that in addition to the slip, the set props would react to it as well, the kind of spontaneity you can't get from a purely-CGI character.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An indirect reference to Malcolm and his family from ''Dawn'' was cut from the conversation between Caesar and the Colonel in his quarters. According to the film's director Creator/MattReeves, [[spoiler: Malcolm was killed by the Colonel, trying to persuade him that Caesar and the apes could be trusted]].

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An indirect reference to Malcolm and his family from ''Dawn'' was cut from the conversation between Caesar and the Colonel in his quarters.at Caesar's cage. According to the film's director Creator/MattReeves, [[spoiler: Malcolm was killed by the Colonel, trying to persuade him that Caesar and the apes could be trusted]].
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* ActorAllusion: The humans give the apes military-esque codenames, the two main names being "Donkeys"(apes that serve the humans) and "Kongs"(the apes led by Caesar). [[Creator/AndySerkis Caesar]], being the apes' leader, is classified as [[Film/KingKong2005 "King Kong"]]. [=McCullough=] is heard referring to Caesar as such after [[spoiler: killing Blue Eyes and Cornelia]].
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** Creator/AndySerkis returns to his role as Ceasar, not just a [[Film/LordOfTheRings CGI Motion Capture character]], but [[KingKong2005 another super-ape]].

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** Creator/AndySerkis returns to his role as Ceasar, not just a [[Film/LordOfTheRings CGI Motion Capture character]], but [[KingKong2005 [[Film/KingKong2005 another super-ape]].

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* BillingDisplacement: [[spoiler: Creator/TobyKebbell]] is listed fourth in the credits, despite [[spoiler: playing Koba in only two of Caesar's nightmare scenes]]. He is credited before Creator/TerryNotary (Rocket) and Karin Konoval (Maurice) despite the latter two playing more plot-important characters.

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[[spoiler: Creator/TobyKebbell]] is listed fourth in the credits, despite [[spoiler: playing Koba in only two of Caesar's nightmare scenes]]. He is credited before Creator/TerryNotary (Rocket) and Karin Konoval (Maurice) despite the latter two playing more plot-important characters.



* ThrowItIn: There are many pieces of improv in the film, mostly from Woody Harrelson as The Colonel:

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* ThrowItIn: There are many pieces of improv in the film, mostly from Woody Harrelson Creator/WoodyHarrelson as The Colonel:



** One for Bad Ape and Steve Zahn, and showcasing the beauty of performance capture technology: When Bad Ape charges off to grab food for Caesar and company, Steve Zahn actually fell. Performance capture meant Bad Ape could slip and fall accidentally, too, the kind of spontaneity you can't get from a purely-CGI character.

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** One for Bad Ape and Steve Zahn, Creator/SteveZahn, and showcasing the beauty of performance capture technology: When Bad Ape charges off to grab food for Caesar and company, Steve Zahn actually fell. Performance capture meant Bad Ape could slip and fall accidentally, too, the kind of spontaneity you can't get from a purely-CGI character.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An indirect reference to Malcolm and his family from ''Dawn'' was cut from the conversation between Caesar and the Colonel in his quarters. According to the film's director Matt Reeves, [[spoiler: Malcolm was killed by the Colonel, trying to persuade him that Caesar and the apes could be trusted]].
* YouLookFamiliar: Ty Olsson, the actor who portrays Red, was also Police Chief Hamil from ''Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes''. [[DownplayedTrope Though you probably won't recognize him behind a gorilla.]]
** Devyn Dalton, who played Cornelius, also played Cornelia in ''Rise'', before getting replaced by Judy Greer in ''Dawn'' and ''War''.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An indirect reference to Malcolm and his family from ''Dawn'' was cut from the conversation between Caesar and the Colonel in his quarters. According to the film's director Matt Reeves, Creator/MattReeves, [[spoiler: Malcolm was killed by the Colonel, trying to persuade him that Caesar and the apes could be trusted]].
* YouLookFamiliar: YouLookFamiliar:
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Ty Olsson, the actor who portrays Red, was also Police Chief Hamil from ''Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes''. [[DownplayedTrope Though you probably won't recognize him behind a gorilla.]]
** Devyn Dalton, who played Cornelius, also played Cornelia in ''Rise'', before getting replaced by Judy Greer Creator/JudyGreer in ''Dawn'' and ''War''.
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* BillingDisplacement: [[spoiler: Creator/TobyKebbell]] is listed fourth in the credits, despite [[spoiler: playing Koba in only two of Caesar's nightmare scenes]]. He is credited before Terry Notary (Rocket) and Karin Konoval (Maurice) despite the latter two playing more plot-important characters.

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* BillingDisplacement: [[spoiler: Creator/TobyKebbell]] is listed fourth in the credits, despite [[spoiler: playing Koba in only two of Caesar's nightmare scenes]]. He is credited before Terry Notary Creator/TerryNotary (Rocket) and Karin Konoval (Maurice) despite the latter two playing more plot-important characters.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An indirect reference to Malcolm and his family from ''Dawn'' was cut from the conversation between Caesar and the Colonel in his quarters. According to the film's director Matt Reeves, [[spoiler: Malcolm and his family were killed by the Colonel for trying to persuade him that Caesar and the apes could be trusted]].

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An indirect reference to Malcolm and his family from ''Dawn'' was cut from the conversation between Caesar and the Colonel in his quarters. According to the film's director Matt Reeves, [[spoiler: Malcolm and his family were was killed by the Colonel for Colonel, trying to persuade him that Caesar and the apes could be trusted]].
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** Creator/AndySerkis returns to play Ceasar, not just a [[Film/LordOfTheRings CGI Motion Capture character]], but [[KingKong another super-ape]].

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** Creator/AndySerkis returns to play his role as Ceasar, not just a [[Film/LordOfTheRings CGI Motion Capture character]], but [[KingKong [[KingKong2005 another super-ape]].

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* TypeCasting: Once again Creator/WoodyHarrelson plays a militaristic survivalist nutjob.

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Once again Creator/WoodyHarrelson plays a militaristic survivalist nutjob.in an actual post-apocalypse.
** Creator/AndySerkis returns to play Ceasar, not just a [[Film/LordOfTheRings CGI Motion Capture character]], but [[KingKong another super-ape]].
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** One for Bad Ape and Steve Zhan, and showcasing the beauty of performance capture technology: When Bad Ape charges off to grab food for Caesar and company, Steve Zhan actually fell. Performance Capture meant Bad Ape could slip and fall accidentally, too, the kind of spontaneity you can't get from a purely-CGI character.

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** One for Bad Ape and Steve Zhan, Zahn, and showcasing the beauty of performance capture technology: When Bad Ape charges off to grab food for Caesar and company, Steve Zhan Zahn actually fell. Performance Capture capture meant Bad Ape could slip and fall accidentally, too, the kind of spontaneity you can't get from a purely-CGI character.
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* IronyAsSheIsCast: Well-known vegan and animal rights activist Creator/WoodyHarrelson plays the psychotic Colonel who has dedicated his life to wiping out the apes.

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* ThrowItIn: There are many pieces of improv in the film, mostly from Woody Harrelson as The Colonel:
** His shooting of Ape Elder was suggested by Harrelson, who felt he had to kill one of the Apes onscreen early to be taken seriously as a villain.
** Twice, he touches Caesar's head, both times an improv between Harrelson and Serkis.
** His "Famous Opposing Generals" speech was another suggestion, including the bit about Caesar "not being much of a reader." The writers wrote it into the script.
** He also felt it was important for [=McCullough=] to relive the moment he [[spoiler:killed his son]], instead of just allude to it. Again, the scene was written at the actor's suggestion.
** One for Bad Ape and Steve Zhan, and showcasing the beauty of performance capture technology: When Bad Ape charges off to grab food for Caesar and company, Steve Zhan actually fell. Performance Capture meant Bad Ape could slip and fall accidentally, too, the kind of spontaneity you can't get from a purely-CGI character.



* YouLookFamiliar: Ty Olsson, the actor who portrays Red, was also Police Chief Hamil from ''Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes''.

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* YouLookFamiliar: Ty Olsson, the actor who portrays Red, was also Police Chief Hamil from ''Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes''. [[DownplayedTrope Though you probably won't recognize him behind a gorilla.]]
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Forgot the "n" in Devyn


** Devy Dalton, who played Cornelius, also played Cornelia in ''Rise'', before getting replaced by Judy Greer in ''Dawn'' and ''War''.

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** Devy Devyn Dalton, who played Cornelius, also played Cornelia in ''Rise'', before getting replaced by Judy Greer in ''Dawn'' and ''War''.
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** Devy Dalton, who played Cornelius, also played Cornelia in ''Rise'', before getting replace by Judy Greer in ''Dawn'' and ''War''.

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** Devy Dalton, who played Cornelius, also played Cornelia in ''Rise'', before getting replace replaced by Judy Greer in ''Dawn'' and ''War''.
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* YouLookFamiliar: Ty Olsson, the actor who portrays Red, was also Police Chief Hamil from ''Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes''.

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* YouLookFamiliar: Ty Olsson, the actor who portrays Red, was also Police Chief Hamil from ''Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes''.''Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes''.
** Devy Dalton, who played Cornelius, also played Cornelia in ''Rise'', before getting replace by Judy Greer in ''Dawn'' and ''War''.
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** And Aleks Paunovic, [[Series/The100 once again]], plays a treacherous strongman.

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* HeAlsoDid: Ty Olsson, the actor who portrays Red, was also Police Chief Hamil from ''Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes''.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An indirect reference to Malcolm and his family from ''Dawn'' was cut from the conversation between Caesar and the Colonel in his quarters. According to the film's director Matt Reeves, [[spoiler: Malcolm and his family were killed by the Colonel for trying to persuade him that Caesar and the apes could be trusted]].

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An indirect reference to Malcolm and his family from ''Dawn'' was cut from the conversation between Caesar and the Colonel in his quarters. According to the film's director Matt Reeves, [[spoiler: Malcolm and his family were killed by the Colonel for trying to persuade him that Caesar and the apes could be trusted]].trusted]].
* YouLookFamiliar: Ty Olsson, the actor who portrays Red, was also Police Chief Hamil from ''Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes''.
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* HeAlsoDid: Ty Olsson, the actor who portrays Red, was also Police Chief Hamil from ''Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes''.
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** While Cornelia is about as plot-important as Koba overall, she appears only minimally [[spoiler:as the character is killed early on]], though actress Creator/JudyGreer is billed as one of the main supporting actors.
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* TypeCasting: Once again Creator/WoodyHarrelson plays a militaristic survivalist nutjob.

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* TypeCasting: Once again Creator/WoodyHarrelson plays a militaristic survivalist nutjob.nutjob.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An indirect reference to Malcolm and his family from ''Dawn'' was cut from the conversation between Caesar and the Colonel in his quarters. According to the film's director Matt Reeves, [[spoiler: Malcolm and his family were killed by the Colonel for trying to persuade him that Caesar and the apes could be trusted]].
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** Due to the film being touted as the GrandFinale to the story arc started in ''Rise'', [[spoiler: Caesar's death]] was predicted by many viewers.

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** Due to the film being touted as the GrandFinale to the story arc started in ''Rise'', [[spoiler: Caesar's death]] was predicted by many viewers.viewers.
* TypeCasting: Once again Creator/WoodyHarrelson plays a militaristic survivalist nutjob.
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IKnewIt:

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* IKnewIt:
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* ActorAllusion: The humans give the apes military-esque codenames, the two main names being "Donkeys"(apes that serve the humans) and "Kongs"(the apes led by Caesar). [[Creator/AndySerkis Caesar]], being the apes' leader, is classified as [[Film/KingKong2005 "King Kong"]]. [=McCullough=] is heard referring to Caesar as such after [[spoiler: killing Blue Eyes and Cornelia]].
* BillingDisplacement: [[spoiler: Creator/TobyKebbell]] is listed fourth in the credits, despite [[spoiler: playing Koba in only two of Caesar's nightmare scenes]]. He is credited before Terry Notary (Rocket) and Karin Konoval (Maurice) despite the latter two playing more plot-important characters.
IKnewIt:
** Many fans guessed that [[spoiler: the Simian Flu would be the reason the humans lost speech in the ape-ruled future]].
** Quite a few viewers felt that [[spoiler: Koba would appear in either flashbacks or as a hallucination]].
** Due to the film being touted as the GrandFinale to the story arc started in ''Rise'', [[spoiler: Caesar's death]] was predicted by many viewers.

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