History Trivia / TheNewOrderLastDaysOfEurope

* A ''TNO'' fan personally had brunch with Serge Osmeña III and [[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/806277775551234098/1179993639913529466/20231201_114929.jpg?ex=657bcdb6&is=656958b6&hm=2eb0c352da820c8b7b848e1ef7c0713c5643fb7ce15ba208254ecbd95d6f1e99& showed]] him his father's portrayal in the mod. Osmeña III liked the appearance, complimenting the "youth" for writing fun alternate history and understanding the artistic licenses borrowed by the developers. Even though his father is portrayed as a morally ambiguous Japanese collaborator, Osmeña III still appreciates that he, at least, is trying to help people in the mod's setting.

** The mod has introduced many historical figures that often have no English articles on Website/TheOtherWiki or were just plain obscure even in their home country. This is especially evident in the case of the former USSR and Latin America, where the mod is the only reason why English speakers would know of figures such as Mikhail Oktan, Pyotr Siuda, Yuri Evtukovich, Ivan Melkikh, Mutshuito Villasboa, Carmelo Ortíz Taborga and Máximo Antonio López.

** One developer disdained Mongolia's current lore as [[https://discord.com/channels/286752091429535756/806276324297539586/969359945000701982 "conducive to the least possible interesting situation"]] and generally made little historical sense, specifically criticizing the existence of the People's Revolutionary Council and Mongolian People's Front as unrealistic.
** Downplayed: while the developer who suggested Taboritsky as Esoteric Nazi leader of Komi, Magnimik, hasn't said that he regrets the choice, he has said that the character's notoriety had become "an Internet wide cognitohazard" in a Discord chat. He was pissed when he found that overzealous fans were making references to TNO in the comments sections of any article that mentioned anything remotely related to the historical Taboritsky (including about Creator/VladimirNabokov), and especially pissed when one fan ''[[MisaimedFandom tried to get his name changed to Taboritsky]]''

** The developers' canon for the Second West Russian War in the 70's is that the Soviet Union successfully retakes Moscow, but not all of the former Russian territory, and the United States mediates a peace agreement between them and Nazi Germany. Due to the wording initially used, however, this was misconstrued by many in the community as both A) the Second West Russian War completely failing in its objective, and B) the US directly intervening on behalf of Nazi Germany, both of which caused cries of creating a totally absurd series of events. The developers eventually [[https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/k8jy20/correcting_a_misconception/ clarified what they meant by that statement]].[[note]]Specifically, the Russians are winning the 2WRW, while the Germans are collapsing and the US sees it as a chance to puppet Germany.[[/note]]

** A [[VideoGame/VictoriaAnEmpireUnderTheSun Victoria 3]] [[https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/victoria-3-dev-diary-98-open-beta-hotfix-update-1-5-achievements-and-additions.1602736/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=DD98 development diary]] references "Alexei lives" in a section regarding the Romanovs and the birth of the historical Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich. Interestingly, the aforementioned section was written by the original developer who created Taboritsky, who had gone on to work for Paradox.

** The development team for the submod "Cold Southern Springs" were integrated into the main development team shortly after the release of their demo "Ordem e Progreso". The team now focuses on making more content centered in the Iberian Union and Latin American countries.

** After the developers of the submod "Operation Deep Freeze" have released several TNO-related songs, they were invited to compose more music to develop the mod's OST. Eventually, the submod was integrated into the mod's lore, with it now being considered canon adjacent.

* IKnewIt:
** Many fans theorized that the Father's identity is [[spoiler:the Orthodox preacher Alexander Men]]. They were proven right.
** [[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/617870272363495434/668490962552619008/speer_leak_final_version.png A large Speer leak]] teased an event where Reinhard Gehlen reports to Speer about the activities of the underground resistance cells and the ''Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold'' organization whose leader's moniker was blanketed. Many people correctly guessed that the hidden moniker is "Spartakus" and that the man behind the nickname is [[spoiler:Willy Brandt]].
** When the [[spoiler: Dai Li Conspiracy]] events were teased at the end of Japan development diary, many fans correctly guessed who was the instigator of the said conspiracy. Few people, however, anticipated that [[spoiler: Dai Li was DeadAllAlong]].
** Regarding Burgundy, many fans speculated that [[spoiler: Léon Degrelle grew to despise Heinrich Himmler, and would lead an uprising against Burgundy and attempt to restore Belgium's independence after seeing Himmler destroy and eradicate his native Wallonian culture and genocide ethnic Belgians, because in Burgundy's ideological pie chart, while 90% of its NSDAP branch is part of the [[UndyingLoyalty Himmlerite faction]], 10% follows an Ultranationalist faction called the "[[LaResistance Degrelle Clique]]"]]. Despite Burgundy devs being incredibly incensed by the idea and asserting it wasn't canon at all and was just [[{{Fanon}} "pleblore"]] that spread like wildfire, [[LyingCreator it turns out that theory was completely correct and is exactly what happens]] - [[spoiler: Degrelle ''was'' leading a covert resistance from inside Burgundy, but is found out during Burgundy's storyline thanks to its surveillance state before he could actually do any damage, and is forced into hiding lest the SS finds and kills him. Meanwhile, he does actually rise up during the Burgundian Collapse ''and'' during the SS Civil War in Heydrich's route, creating the Belgian National Order in Wallonia, and in the latter case is [[ALighterShadeOfBlack the]] ''[[ALighterShadeOfBlack only]]'' [[ALighterShadeOfBlack Burgundian collaborator openly betraying Himmler]] and [[EnemyMine fully willing to side with]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards Heydrich]]]].

* A ''TNO'' fan personally had brunch with Serge Osmeña III and [[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/806277775551234098/1179993639913529466/20231201_114929.jpg?ex=657bcdb6&is=656958b6&hm=2eb0c352da820c8b7b848e1ef7c0713c5643fb7ce15ba208254ecbd95d6f1e99& showed]] him his father's portrayal in the mod. Despite the fact that his father is cast as a morally ambiguous Japanese collaborator, Osmeña III liked the appearance, complimenting the "youth" for writing fun alternate history and understanding the artistic licenses borrowed by the developers, even remarking that his father probably would become a collaborator in ''TNO'''s setting.