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* ReleaseDateChange: Due to a combination of the UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic and wanting to accommodate ''Film/MissionImpossibleDeadReckoningPartOne'' (which also kept moving back), Creator/{{Paramount}} moved the release of the film from November 19, 2021, to May 27, 2022, then to March 3, 2023, before finally settling on March 31 of that same year. This delay likely contributed to the quality and polish of most of the film's visual effects despite a relatively modest budget, but ''also'' set the movie into a completely unintentional DuelingWorks situation against ''Film/JohnWickChapter4'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie'', which directly contributed to ''Honor'' severely underperforming.
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* ReleaseDateChange: Due to a combination of the UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic and wanting to accommodate ''Film/MissionImpossibleDeadReckoningPartOne'' ''Film/MissionImpossibleDeadReckoning'' (which also kept moving back), Creator/{{Paramount}} moved the release of the film from November 19, 2021, to May 27, 2022, then to March 3, 2023, before finally settling on March 31 of that same year. This delay likely contributed to the quality and polish of most of the film's visual effects despite a relatively modest budget, but ''also'' set the movie into a completely unintentional DuelingWorks situation against ''Film/JohnWickChapter4'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie'', which directly contributed to ''Honor'' severely underperforming.
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** Creator/JoeManganiello was attached for a long time to star, as was Creator/AnselElgort.
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** Creator/JoeManganiello was attached for a long time to star, as was Creator/AnselElgort.Creator/AnselElgort, likely as Edgin and Simon respectively.
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switching Twitter link with a Greenwood's Youtube. The whole thread is no longer viewable to those not logged into Twitter and the video at this timestamp does a better job of getting Greenwood's points across
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* ApprovalOfGod: Despite not being involved in the production or credited for his work, TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms creator Ed Greenwood [[https://twitter.com/TheEdVerse/status/1643011590042574848 loved the movie]], saying it was a film that D&D fans could be proud of without having to defend the game to non-fans, and he even mentioned that he planned on seeing it multiple times. He was also happy to see his creation adapted faithfully on the big screen.
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* ApprovalOfGod: Despite not being involved in the production or credited for his work, TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms creator Ed Greenwood [[https://twitter.com/TheEdVerse/status/1643011590042574848 [[https://youtu.be/lEZH1wwj1oU?si=GpWRgVQWMzTAuEyf&t=463 loved the movie]], saying it was a film that D&D fans could be proud of without having to defend the game to non-fans, and he even mentioned that he planned on seeing it multiple times. He was also happy to see his creation adapted faithfully on the big screen.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: While a gross of $208.2 million worldwide against a budget of $150 million might sound like a mild success, once the actual production, distribution and marketing are accounted for, the movie still failed to turn a profit. Specifically, the film made less than $94 million in the US, where Paramount had the least of its profit taken by any given third party. As a result, the plans for a bigger movie franchise are on indefinite hold, though Paramount CEO Brian Robbins says a second film could still be made if it could be done on a smaller budget.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: While a A gross of $208.2 million worldwide against a budget of $150 million might sound like a mild success, once but since that gross was split with theaters and the actual production, budget doesn't include marketing and distribution and marketing are accounted for, costs, the movie still failed to turn a profit. Specifically, the film made less than $94 million in the US, where Paramount had the least of its profit taken by any given third party. and likely cost Parmount tens of millions. As a result, the plans for a bigger movie franchise are on indefinite hold, though Paramount CEO Brian Robbins says a second film could still be made if it could be done on a smaller budget.
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* ReleaseDateChange: Due to a combination of the UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic and wanting to accommodate ''Film/MissionImpossibleDeadReckoningPartOne'' (which also kept moving back), Creator/{{Paramount}} moved the release of the film from November 19, 2021, to May 27, 2022, then to March 3, 2023, before finally settling on March 31 of that same year. This delay likely contributed to the quality and polish of most of the film's visual effects despite a relatively modest budget.
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* ReleaseDateChange: Due to a combination of the UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic and wanting to accommodate ''Film/MissionImpossibleDeadReckoningPartOne'' (which also kept moving back), Creator/{{Paramount}} moved the release of the film from November 19, 2021, to May 27, 2022, then to March 3, 2023, before finally settling on March 31 of that same year. This delay likely contributed to the quality and polish of most of the film's visual effects despite a relatively modest budget.budget, but ''also'' set the movie into a completely unintentional DuelingWorks situation against ''Film/JohnWickChapter4'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie'', which directly contributed to ''Honor'' severely underperforming.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: While a gross of $208.2 million worldwide against a budget of $150 million might sound like a mild success, once the actual production, distribution and marketing are accounted for, the movie still failed to turn a profit. Specifically, the film made less than $94 million in the US, where Paramount had the least of its profit taken by any given third party. As a result, the plans for a bigger movie franchise are on indefinite hold.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: While a gross of $208.2 million worldwide against a budget of $150 million might sound like a mild success, once the actual production, distribution and marketing are accounted for, the movie still failed to turn a profit. Specifically, the film made less than $94 million in the US, where Paramount had the least of its profit taken by any given third party. As a result, the plans for a bigger movie franchise are on indefinite hold.hold, though Paramount CEO Brian Robbins says a second film could still be made if it could be done on a smaller budget.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: While a gross of $208.2 million worldwide against a budget of $150 million might sound like a mild success, once the actual production, distribution and marketing are accounted for, the movie still failed to turn a profit. Specifically, the film made less than $94 million in the US, where Paramount had the least of its profit taken by any given third party. As a result, the plans for a bigger movie franchise are on indefinite hold.
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* VoiceOnlyCameo: In the European French dub, Fred and Seb from ''WebVideo/JoueurDuGrenier'' voiced the questioned undead.
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"Dueling Works" does not simply mean "anything released at the same time"
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* DuelingWorks: Unintentionally so. Thanks to [[ReleaseDateChange a few delays]] and [[ScrewedByTheNetwork the general mishandling of the release]] by Paramount, the film ended up being a third party to the already tough duel between ''Film/JohnWickChapter4'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie''. Despite positive reviews and good word of mouth, ''Honor Among Thieves'' ended up barely making its budget back, with the other two movies being box office juggernauts.
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- came. Gah. Also, minor editing.
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* AcclaimedFlop: Despite general praise from both critics and general audiences, the film grossed just $208.2 million worldwide off of an $150 million budget (potential reasons why listed below under ScrewedByTheNetwork). With around half of that gross going to the theaters, the various production companies involved all failed to recoup their investment in the initial theatrical window, though the creators remain optimistic that its very positive reception will lead to more people discovering it at home.
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* AcclaimedFlop: Despite general praise from both critics and general audiences, the film grossed just $208.2 million worldwide off of an a $150 million budget (potential reasons why listed below under ScrewedByTheNetwork). With around half of that gross going to the theaters, the various production companies involved all failed to recoup their investment in the initial theatrical window, though the creators remain optimistic that its very positive reception will lead to more people discovering it at home.
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* TheCastShowOff: Chris Pine had [[Film/IntoTheWoods previously demonstrated]] his singing, and does so again, when Edgin performs a song to distract the guards.
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* TheCastShowOff: Chris Pine had [[Film/IntoTheWoods previously demonstrated]] his singing, and does so again, again when Edgin performs a song to distract the guards.
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* HostilityOnTheSet: Minor example. Hugh Grant confessed to losing his temper at a woman in his eyeline whom he assumed was a studio executive "who should have known better", not realizing she was the chaperone for Creator/ChloeColeman. He did a lot of "groveling" to apologize.
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* HostilityOnTheSet: Minor example. Hugh Grant confessed to losing his temper at a woman in his eyeline sights whom he assumed was a studio executive "who should have known better", not realizing she was the chaperone for Creator/ChloeColeman. He did a lot of "groveling" to apologize.
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** WordOfGod is that they originally wanted the Creator/MontyPython cast to provide the voices of the corpses that Simon resurrects. It never came about because of "financial limitations" and some of the cast having passed away.
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** WordOfGod is that they originally wanted the Creator/MontyPython cast to provide the voices of the corpses that Simon resurrects. It never came about because of "financial limitations" and some of the cast having have passed away.
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I'm not sure if that part applies since the OGL controversy was resolved three months before the movie csme out, so it's unlikely without a verified source.
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* AcclaimedFlop: Despite general praise from both critics and general audiences, the film grossed just $208.2 million worldwide off of an $150 million budget (potential reasons why listed below under ScrewedByTheNetwork, and being released while controversy with the source material was ongoing).ScrewedByTheNetwork). With around half of that gross going to the theaters, the various production companies involved all failed to recoup their investment in the initial theatrical window, though the creators remain optimistic that its very positive reception will lead to more people discovering it at home.
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* AcclaimedFlop: Despite general praise from both critics and general audiences, the film grossed just $208.2 million worldwide off of an $150 million budget (potential reasons why listed below under ScrewedByTheNetwork).ScrewedByTheNetwork, and being released while controversy with the source material was ongoing). With around half of that gross going to the theaters, the various production companies involved all failed to recoup their investment in the initial theatrical window, though the creators remain optimistic that its very positive reception will lead to more people discovering it at home.
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* AcclaimedFlop: Despite general praise from both critics and general audiences, the film grossed just $208.2 million worldwide off of an $150 million budget. With around half of that gross going to the theaters, the various production companies involved all failed to recoup their investment in the initial theatrical window, though the creators remain optimistic that its very positive reception will lead to more people discovering it at home.
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* AcclaimedFlop: Despite general praise from both critics and general audiences, the film grossed just $208.2 million worldwide off of an $150 million budget.budget (potential reasons why listed below under ScrewedByTheNetwork). With around half of that gross going to the theaters, the various production companies involved all failed to recoup their investment in the initial theatrical window, though the creators remain optimistic that its very positive reception will lead to more people discovering it at home.
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Paramount's decision to push the film over a year past its original planned release to March 31, 2023, was seen by many as either a massive blunder or the studio giving up on the project. That date sandwiched the film between ''Film/JohnWickChapter4'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie'', both movies from extremely popular franchises that would directly compete for the core ''D&D'' audience of action, fantasy, and gaming fans. Positive word of mouth for ''Honor Among Thieves'' led to it slightly outperforming expectations in its opening weekend, but any chance of the film continuing to gather the grassroots support it would need to reach profitability was dashed when ''Mario'', already anticipated to be a box office juggernaut, greatly outperformed those lofty expectations the following weeks. As of the third week of release for ''Honor'', it had only grossed a measly $150 million (roughly what it cost to make ''before'' advertising) compared to $350 million for ''Wick'' and '''$700 million''' for ''Mario'', ensuring that ''Honor'' won't be profitable in its initial theatrical window.[[note]]Some box office observers have pointed with hindsight to late summer 2022, which lacked any tentpole franchise releases after mid-July and had a severely depressed box office as a result, as a far better window for a slow-burn release like the one ''Honor Among Thieves'' seemed best suited for.[[/note]]
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Paramount's decision to push the film over a year past its original planned release to March 31, 2023, was seen by many as either a massive blunder or the studio giving up on the project. That date sandwiched the film between ''Film/JohnWickChapter4'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie'', both movies from extremely popular franchises that would directly compete for the core ''D&D'' audience of action, fantasy, and gaming fans. Positive word of mouth for ''Honor Among Thieves'' led to it slightly outperforming expectations in its opening weekend, but any chance of the film continuing to gather the grassroots support it would need to reach profitability was dashed when ''Mario'', already anticipated to be a box office juggernaut, greatly outperformed those lofty expectations the following weeks. As of the third week of release for ''Honor'', it had only grossed a measly $150 million (roughly what it cost to make ''before'' advertising) compared to $350 million for ''Wick'' and '''$700 million''' for ''Mario'', ensuring that ''Honor'' won't be profitable in its initial theatrical window.[[note]]Some box office observers have pointed with hindsight to late summer 2022, which lacked any tentpole franchise releases after mid-July and had a severely depressed box office as a result, as a far better window for a slow-burn release like the one ''Honor Among Thieves'' seemed best suited for.[[/note]]
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* AcclaimedFlop: Despite general praise from both critics and general audiences, the film grossed just $208.2 million worldwide off of an $150 million budget. With around half of that gross going to the theaters, the various production companies involved all failed to recoup their investment in the initial theatrical window, though the creators remain optimistic that its very positive reception will lead to more people discovering it at home.
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Does it? It's not mentioned anywhere in the sourced article or any other article I could find.
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* InspirationForTheWork: [[https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dungeons-and-dragons-honor-among-thieves-high-fantasy-heist-movie/ Co-director/writer John Francis Daley claimed]] that while brainstorming the script and coming up with an approach to adapt ''Dungeons & Dragons'' that would be easily accessible for non-fans, primary influences included ''Film/ThePrincessBride'', ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail'', ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'', but perhaps most important for the film's structure: ''Franchise/IndianaJones''. Daley cited ''Indiana Jones'' as forming a bridge between "dungeon-crawling fantasy" with the [[TheCaper "heist film"]] format mainstream audiences would be familiar with, and by making ''Honor Among Thieves'' its own fantasy-oriented heist film, it would help ease the uninitiated into the world of the franchise "without being overwhelmed by lore or proper nouns" while also evoking the spirit of the game of strangers coming together to solve a mission via dungeon crawl. The film also takes a lot of inspiration from Film/{{Ghostbusters1984}} in terms of how its comedy is handled - the worldbuilding and main plot is taken seriously, but everything else is allowed to be used for comedy.
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* InspirationForTheWork: [[https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dungeons-and-dragons-honor-among-thieves-high-fantasy-heist-movie/ Co-director/writer John Francis Daley claimed]] that while brainstorming the script and coming up with an approach to adapt ''Dungeons & Dragons'' that would be easily accessible for non-fans, primary influences included ''Film/ThePrincessBride'', ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail'', ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'', but perhaps most important for the film's structure: ''Franchise/IndianaJones''. Daley cited ''Indiana Jones'' as forming a bridge between "dungeon-crawling fantasy" with the [[TheCaper "heist film"]] format mainstream audiences would be familiar with, and by making ''Honor Among Thieves'' its own fantasy-oriented heist film, it would help ease the uninitiated into the world of the franchise "without being overwhelmed by lore or proper nouns" while also evoking the spirit of the game of strangers coming together to solve a mission via dungeon crawl. The film also takes a lot of inspiration from Film/{{Ghostbusters1984}} in terms of how its comedy is handled - the worldbuilding and main plot is taken seriously, but everything else is allowed to be used for comedy.
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* InspirationForTheWork: [[https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dungeons-and-dragons-honor-among-thieves-high-fantasy-heist-movie/ Co-director/writer John Francis Daley claimed]] that while brainstorming the script and coming up with an approach to adapt ''Dungeons & Dragons'' that would be easily accessible for non-fans, primary influences included ''Film/ThePrincessBride'', ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail'', ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'', but perhaps most important for the film's structure: ''Franchise/IndianaJones''. Daley cited ''Indiana Jones'' as forming a bridge between "dungeon-crawling fantasy" with the [[TheCaper "heist film"]] format mainstream audiences would be familiar with, and by making ''Honor Among Thieves'' its own fantasy-oriented heist film, it would help ease the uninitiated into the world of the franchise "without being overwhelmed by lore or proper nouns" while also evoking the spirit of the game of strangers coming together to solve a mission via dungeon crawl.
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* InspirationForTheWork: [[https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dungeons-and-dragons-honor-among-thieves-high-fantasy-heist-movie/ Co-director/writer John Francis Daley claimed]] that while brainstorming the script and coming up with an approach to adapt ''Dungeons & Dragons'' that would be easily accessible for non-fans, primary influences included ''Film/ThePrincessBride'', ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail'', ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'', but perhaps most important for the film's structure: ''Franchise/IndianaJones''. Daley cited ''Indiana Jones'' as forming a bridge between "dungeon-crawling fantasy" with the [[TheCaper "heist film"]] format mainstream audiences would be familiar with, and by making ''Honor Among Thieves'' its own fantasy-oriented heist film, it would help ease the uninitiated into the world of the franchise "without being overwhelmed by lore or proper nouns" while also evoking the spirit of the game of strangers coming together to solve a mission via dungeon crawl. The film also takes a lot of inspiration from Film/{{Ghostbusters1984}} in terms of how its comedy is handled - the worldbuilding and main plot is taken seriously, but everything else is allowed to be used for comedy.
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* InspirationForTheWork: [[https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dungeons-and-dragons-honor-among-thieves-high-fantasy-heist-movie/ Co-director/writer John Francis Daley claimed]] that while brainstorming the script and coming up with an approach to adapt ''Dungeons & Dragons'' that would be easily accessible for non-fans, primarily influences included ''Film/ThePrincessBride'', ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail'', ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'', but perhaps most important for the film's structure: ''Franchise/IndianaJones''. Daley cited ''Indiana Jones'' as forming a bridge between "dungeon-crawling fantasy" with the [[TheCaper "heist film"]] format mainstream audiences would be familiar with, and by making ''Honor Among Thieves'' its own fantasy-oriented heist film, it would help ease the uninitiated into the world of the franchise "without being overwhelmed by lore or proper nouns" while also evoking the spirit of the game of strangers coming together to solve a mission via dungeon crawl.
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* InspirationForTheWork: [[https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dungeons-and-dragons-honor-among-thieves-high-fantasy-heist-movie/ Co-director/writer John Francis Daley claimed]] that while brainstorming the script and coming up with an approach to adapt ''Dungeons & Dragons'' that would be easily accessible for non-fans, primarily primary influences included ''Film/ThePrincessBride'', ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail'', ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'', but perhaps most important for the film's structure: ''Franchise/IndianaJones''. Daley cited ''Indiana Jones'' as forming a bridge between "dungeon-crawling fantasy" with the [[TheCaper "heist film"]] format mainstream audiences would be familiar with, and by making ''Honor Among Thieves'' its own fantasy-oriented heist film, it would help ease the uninitiated into the world of the franchise "without being overwhelmed by lore or proper nouns" while also evoking the spirit of the game of strangers coming together to solve a mission via dungeon crawl.
