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* ExecutiveMeddling: The ending of Part Eleven was supposed to be a model shot of the ''Hyperion III'' flying towards the Black Hole of Tartarus. Creator/JohnNathanTurner thought that all episodes of the "Trial" season should end on a close-up on the Doctor's face however (even though episode 9 memorably avoided that), and had the episode re-edited to end on a shot of the Doctor looking vaguely annoyed at Lasky. Fortunately, the special edition cut of this story (found in the Collection Blu-ray release) re-edits both scenes, and properly ends Part Eleven with the cliffhanger moment rather than a shot of Sixth's face.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: The ending of Part Eleven the third episode was supposed to be a model shot of the ''Hyperion III'' flying towards the Black Hole of Tartarus. Creator/JohnNathanTurner thought that all episodes of the "Trial" season should end on a close-up on the Doctor's face however (even though the first episode 9 memorably avoided that), and had the episode re-edited to end on a shot of the Doctor looking vaguely annoyed at Lasky. Fortunately, the special edition cut of this story (found in the Collection Blu-ray release) re-edits both scenes, and properly ends Part Eleven Three with the cliffhanger moment rather than a shot of Sixth's the Doctor's face.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The ending of Part Eleven was supposed to be a model shot of the ''Hyperion III'' flying towards the Black Hole of Tartarus. Creator/JohnNathanTurner thought that all episodes of the "Trial" season should end on a close-up on the Doctor's face however (even though episode 9 memorably avoided that), and had the episode re-edited to end on a shot of the Doctor looking vaguely annoyed at Lasky.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: The ending of Part Eleven was supposed to be a model shot of the ''Hyperion III'' flying towards the Black Hole of Tartarus. Creator/JohnNathanTurner thought that all episodes of the "Trial" season should end on a close-up on the Doctor's face however (even though episode 9 memorably avoided that), and had the episode re-edited to end on a shot of the Doctor looking vaguely annoyed at Lasky. Fortunately, the special edition cut of this story (found in the Collection Blu-ray release) re-edits both scenes, and properly ends Part Eleven with the cliffhanger moment rather than a shot of Sixth's face.
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* RealitySubtext: In Mel's first scene, she is putting the Doctor through an excercise and healthy eating routine, telling the Doctor "it's your waistline I'm concerned about". Creator/ColinBaker was struggling with weight gain at the time, and appeared noticeably more rotund this season than he had in Season 22.

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* RealitySubtext: In Mel's first scene, she is putting the Doctor through an excercise and healthy eating routine, telling the Doctor "it's your waistline I'm concerned about". Creator/ColinBaker was struggling with weight gain at the time, later discovered to be the product of diabetes, and appeared noticeably more rotund this season than he had in Season 22.



* WorkingTitle: ''The Ultimate Foe'' and ''The Vervoids''.

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* WorkingTitle: ''The Ultimate Foe'' (which later got used for [[Recap/DoctorWhoS23E4TheUltimateFoe the following story]]) and ''The Vervoids''.Vervoids'' (which was the serial's internal production title before the novelization added the "Terror of" prefix, which got carried over to home media releases).
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* RealitySubtext: In Mel's first scene, she is putting the Doctor through an excercise and healthy eating routine, telling the Doctor "it's your waistline I'm concerned about". Creator/ColinBaker was struggling with weight gain at the time, and appeared noticeably more rotund this season than he had in Season 22.
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* UncreditedRole: Because Creator/EricSaward walked out on the show following a spat with Creator/JohnNathanTurner over the planned ending to [[Recap/DoctorWhoS23E4TheUltimateFoe "The Ultimate Foe"]], Nathan-Turner had to perform script editing duties on this serial himself (as was also the case with part two of "The Ultimate Foe"). Because BBC guidelines prevented Nathan-Turner from taking credit as both script editor ''and'' producer, the former position goes unlisted in the closing credits. Creator/AndrewCartmel would eventually be hired to fill the void left by Saward starting with [[Recap/DoctorWhoS24E1TimeAndTheRani the next season's opener]].

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* UncreditedRole: Because Creator/EricSaward walked out on the show following a spat with Creator/JohnNathanTurner over the planned ending to [[Recap/DoctorWhoS23E4TheUltimateFoe "The Ultimate Foe"]], Nathan-Turner had to perform script editing duties on this serial himself (as was also the case with part two Part Two of "The Ultimate Foe"). Because BBC guidelines prevented Nathan-Turner from taking credit as both script editor ''and'' producer, the former position goes unlisted in the closing credits. Creator/AndrewCartmel would eventually be hired to fill the void left by Saward starting with [[Recap/DoctorWhoS24E1TimeAndTheRani the next season's opener]].
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* DawsonCasting: The role of Sarah Lasky was written for a woman in her forties, but was played by Creator/HonorBlackman, who was almost 60 at the time of taping.

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* DawsonCasting: The role of Sarah Lasky was written for a woman in her forties, but was played by Creator/HonorBlackman, who was almost 60 at the time of taping.
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* UncreditedRole: Because Creator/EricSaward walked out on the show following a spat with Creator/JohnNathanTurner over the planned ending to [[Recap/DoctorWhoS23E4TheUltimateFoe "The Ultimate Foe"]], Nathan-Turner had to perform script editing duties on this serial himself (as was also the case with part two of "The Ultimate Foe") Because BBC guidelines prevented Nathan-Turner from taking credit as both script editor ''and'' producer, the former position goes unlisted in the closing credits. Creator/AndrewCartmel would eventually be hired to fill the void left by Saward starting with [[Recap/DoctorWhoS24E1TimeAndTheRani the next season's opener]].

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* UncreditedRole: Because Creator/EricSaward walked out on the show following a spat with Creator/JohnNathanTurner over the planned ending to [[Recap/DoctorWhoS23E4TheUltimateFoe "The Ultimate Foe"]], Nathan-Turner had to perform script editing duties on this serial himself (as was also the case with part two of "The Ultimate Foe") Foe"). Because BBC guidelines prevented Nathan-Turner from taking credit as both script editor ''and'' producer, the former position goes unlisted in the closing credits. Creator/AndrewCartmel would eventually be hired to fill the void left by Saward starting with [[Recap/DoctorWhoS24E1TimeAndTheRani the next season's opener]].
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* UncreditedRole: Because Creator/EricSaward walked out on the show following a spat with Creator/JohnNathanTurner over the planned ending to [[Recap/DoctorWhoS23E4TheUltimateFoe "The Ultimate Foe"]], Nathan-Turner had to perform script editing duties on this serial himself (as was also the case with part two of "The Ultimate Foe") Because BBC guidelines prevented Nathan-Turner from taking credit as both script editor ''and'' producer, the former position goes unlisted in the closing credits. Creator/AndrewCartmel would eventually be hired to fill the void left by Saward starting with [[Recap/DoctorWhoS24E1TimeAndTheRani the next season's opener]].
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** Creator/MartinJarvis and Creator/DonaldSumpter were considered for Doland.

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** Creator/JimBroadbent, Creator/MartinJarvis and Creator/DonaldSumpter were considered for Doland.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Amongst those considered for Commodore Travers was Creator/PatrickStewart.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: WhatCouldHaveBeen:
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Amongst those considered for Commodore Travers was Creator/PatrickStewart.Creator/PatrickStewart.
** Creator/MartinJarvis and Creator/DonaldSumpter were considered for Doland.
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* InspirationForTheWork: At Eric Saward's suggestion, Pip and Jane Baker used ''Literature/MurderOnTheOrientExpress'' for inspiration. Lasky is even seen reading it at one point.
* {{Recut}}: For the bluray release of ''Trial of a Time Lord'', an re-edited version of this episode was made, removing all the trial scenes and updating the effects, complete with [[https://youtu.be/2uZgftew2pk new intro]].
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* {{Recut}}: For the bluray release of ''Trial of a Time Lord'', an re-edited version of this episode was made, removing all the trial scenes and updating the effects, complete with [[https://youtu.be/2uZgftew2pk new intro]].
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* FirstAppearance: Of Mel Bush. Although not her first meeting with the Doctor (which, due to the circumstances of Creator/ColinBaker's departure for the show, was never depicted on-screen).

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* FirstAppearance: Of Mel Bush. Although not her first meeting with the Doctor (which, due to the circumstances of Creator/ColinBaker's departure for from the show, was never depicted on-screen).
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* FirstAppearance: Of Mel Bush. Although not her first meeting with the Doctor.

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* FirstAppearance: Of Mel Bush. Although not her first meeting with the Doctor.Doctor (which, due to the circumstances of Creator/ColinBaker's departure for the show, was never depicted on-screen).
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The ending was supposed to be a model shot of the ''Hyperion III'' flying towards the Black Hole of Tartarus. Creator/JohnNathanTurner thought that all episodes of the "Trial" season should end on a close-up on the Doctor's face however (even though episode 9 memorably avoided that), and had the episode re-edited to end on a shot of the Doctor looking vaguely annoyed at Lasky.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: The ending of Part Eleven was supposed to be a model shot of the ''Hyperion III'' flying towards the Black Hole of Tartarus. Creator/JohnNathanTurner thought that all episodes of the "Trial" season should end on a close-up on the Doctor's face however (even though episode 9 memorably avoided that), and had the episode re-edited to end on a shot of the Doctor looking vaguely annoyed at Lasky.
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* InspirationForTheWork: At Eric Saward's suggestion, Pip and Jane Baker used ''Literature/MurderOnTheOrientExpress'' for inspiration. Lasky is even seen reading it at one point.



* WorkingTitle: ''The Ultimate Foe'' and ''The Vervoids''.

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* WorkingTitle: ''The Ultimate Foe'' and ''The Vervoids''.Vervoids''.
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* ActorAllusion: In Mel's first scene, she is shown training the Doctor who's on an exercise bike. Creator/ColinBaker gained a noticeable amount of weight inbetween the 22nd and 23rd seasons.
* CastingGag: Michael Craig (Commodore Travers) was known at the time for his role in ''Series/{{Triangle}}'' as the captain of a North Sea ferry.
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* DawsonCasting: The role of Sarah Lasky was written for a woman in her forties, but was played by Honor Blackman, who was almost 60 at the time of taping.

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* DawsonCasting: The role of Sarah Lasky was written for a woman in her forties, but was played by Honor Blackman, Creator/HonorBlackman, who was almost 60 at the time of taping.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The ending was supposed to be a model shot of the ''Hyperion III'' flying towards the Black Hole of Tartarus. Creator/JohnNathanTurner thought that all episodes of the "Trial" season should end on a close-up on the Doctor's face however (even though episode 9 memorably avoided that), and had the episode re-edited to end on a shot of the Doctor looking vaguely annoyed at Lasky.
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* CastingGag: Michael Craig (Commodore Travers) was known at the time for his role in ''Series/{{Triangle}}'' as the captain of a North Sea ferry.
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* ActorAllusion: In Mel's first scene, she is shown training the Doctor who's on an exercise bike. Creator/ColinBaker gained a noticeable amount of weight inbetween the 22nd and 23rd seasons.

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* DawsonCasting: The role of Sarah Lasky was written for a woman in her forties, but was played by Honor Blackman, who was also 60 at the time of taping.

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* DawsonCasting: The role of Sarah Lasky was written for a woman in her forties, but was played by Honor Blackman, who was also almost 60 at the time of taping.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Amongst those considered for Commodore Travers was Creator/PatrickStewart.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
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WhatCouldHaveBeen: Amongst those considered for Commodore Travers was Creator/PatrickStewart.

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* FirstAppearance: Of Mel Bush. Although not her first meeting with the Doctor.

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* DawsonCasting: The role of Sarah Lasky was written for a woman in her forties, but was played by Honor Blackman, who was also 60 at the time of taping.
* FirstAppearance: Of Mel Bush. Although not her first meeting with the Doctor.Doctor.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Amongst those considered for Commodore Travers was Creator/PatrickStewart.
* WorkingTitle: ''The Ultimate Foe'' and ''The Vervoids''.
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* FirstAppearance: Of Mel Bush. Although not her first meeting with the Doctor.

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