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** In the original storyline, Lexa simply vanished from the action once she had served her purpose within the narrative. Creator/ChristopherHBidmead suggested her act of self-sacrifice as a more dramatic end for the character.

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** In the original storyline, Lexa simply vanished from the action once she had served her purpose within the narrative. Creator/ChristopherHBidmead suggested her act of self-sacrifice as a thought sacrificing herself would be more dramatic end for the character.and fitting.
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* YouLookFamiliar: Lexa is played by Creator/JacquelineHill, who had played the Doctor's companion Barbara Wright 15 years earlier.

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* YouLookFamiliar: Lexa is played by Creator/JacquelineHill, who had played one of the First Doctor's companion original companions, Barbara Wright Wright, 15 years earlier.
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** In a less obvious example, Crawford Logan provides the voice of Meglos' true form, in addition to playing Deedrix on-screen.

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** In a less obvious example, Crawford Logan Christopher Owen provides the voice of Meglos' true form, in addition to playing Deedrix the Earthling on-screen.
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* OutOfOrder: In a possibly unique case in ''Doctor Who'', this one was filmed without the newest regular castmember. "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E4StateOfDecay State of Decay]]", which featured Matthew Waterhouse as Adric, was filmed first, then "Meglos" without him, and then his introduction, "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E3FullCircle Full Circle]]". (Some wags over the years have suggested it was "[[TheScrappy so Waterhouse could take acting lessons]]", but this just seems to be a rather mean urban legend.)

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* OutOfOrder: In a possibly unique case in ''Doctor Who'', this one was filmed without the newest regular castmember. "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E4StateOfDecay State of Decay]]", which featured Matthew Waterhouse as Adric, was filmed first, then "Meglos" without him, and then his introduction, "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E3FullCircle Full Circle]]". (Some Some wags over the years have suggested it was "[[TheScrappy so "so Waterhouse could take acting lessons]]", lessons", but this is just seems to be a rather mean urban legend.)legend; "State of Decay" was a pre-existing script that was originally intended for Season 15 and abandoned due to ExecutiveMeddling from the BBC, before being resurrected and quickly rewritten to incorporate Romana and Adric instead of Leela, meaning it was simply ready to go in front of the cameras before this story was.

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* ActingForTwo: Creator/TomBaker as both the Doctor and Meglos. Creates a fascinating contrast when they get locked in a cell together. It also gave Baker the distinction of being the only person to have two waxworks in Madame Tussauds, as the ''Doctor Who'' exhibition which opened during production of this story featured sculptures of him as both the Doctor and Meglos.

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Creator/TomBaker as both the Doctor and Meglos. Creates a fascinating contrast when they get locked in a cell together. It also gave Baker the distinction of being the only person to have two waxworks in Madame Tussauds, as the ''Doctor Who'' exhibition which opened during production of this story featured sculptures of him as both the Doctor and Meglos.Meglos.
** In a less obvious example, Crawford Logan provides the voice of Meglos' true form, in addition to playing Deedrix on-screen.


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* PlayingAgainstType: Frederick Treves, who was known for playing straight-faced authority figures, hams it up as the villainous Brotadac.

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* HypotheticalCasting: Co-writer John Flanagan wanted Creator/LeeMarvin to play Grugger and was amazed when Bill Fraser was cast as he had not imagined him in the role at all.



** Co-writer John Flanagan wanted Creator/LeeMarvin to play Grugger and was amazed when Bill Fraser was cast as he had not imagined him in the role at all. Creator/BrianBlessed, Creator/PeterCushing, Creator/DonaldHouston, Creator/DonaldPleasence, Creator/PeterVaughan and Creator/PeterWyngarde were also considered.

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** Co-writer John Flanagan wanted Creator/LeeMarvin to play Grugger and was amazed when Bill Fraser was cast as he had not imagined him in the role at all. Creator/BrianBlessed, Creator/PeterCushing, Creator/DonaldHouston, Creator/DonaldPleasence, Creator/PeterVaughan and Creator/PeterWyngarde were also considered.considered for General Grugger.

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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/JacquelineHill regretted appearing in the story feeling that since she played Barbara, it was inappropriate to appear as a different character. Creator/JohnNathanTurner felt similarly, and decided not to bring back former regular cast members as different characters again.



* OldShame: Creator/JacquelineHill regretted appearing in the story feeling that since she played Barbara, it was inappropriate to appear as a different character. Creator/JohnNathanTurner felt similarly, and decided not to bring back former regular cast members as different characters again.

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** In the original storyline, Lexa simply vanished from the action once she had served her purpose within the narrative. Christopher H. Bidmead suggested her act of self-sacrifice as a more dramatic end for the character.

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** In the original storyline, Lexa simply vanished from the action once she had served her purpose within the narrative. Christopher H. Bidmead Creator/ChristopherHBidmead suggested her act of self-sacrifice as a more dramatic end for the character.
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* OldShame: Creator/JacquelineHill regretted appearing in the story feeling that since she played Barbara, it was inappropriate to appear as a different character. John Nathan-Turner felt similarly, and decided not to bring back former regular cast members as different characters again.

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* OldShame: Creator/JacquelineHill regretted appearing in the story feeling that since she played Barbara, it was inappropriate to appear as a different character. John Nathan-Turner Creator/JohnNathanTurner felt similarly, and decided not to bring back former regular cast members as different characters again.

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* OldShame: Jacqueline Hill regretted appearing in the story feeling that since she played Barbara, it was inappropriate to appear as a different character. John Nathan-Turner felt similarly, and decided not to bring back former regular cast members as different characters again.

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* OldShame: Jacqueline Hill Creator/JacquelineHill regretted appearing in the story feeling that since she played Barbara, it was inappropriate to appear as a different character. John Nathan-Turner felt similarly, and decided not to bring back former regular cast members as different characters again.



* YouLookFamiliar: Lexa is played by Jacqueline Hill, who had played the Doctor's companion Barbara Wright 15 years earlier.

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* YouLookFamiliar: Lexa is played by Jacqueline Hill, Creator/JacquelineHill, who had played the Doctor's companion Barbara Wright 15 years earlier.
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* OutOfOrder: In a possibly unique case in ''Doctor Who'', this one was filmed without the newest regular castmember. "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E4StateOfDecay State of Decay]]", which featured Adric, was filmed first, then "Meglos" without him, and then his introduction, "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E3FullCircle Full Circle]]".

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* OutOfOrder: In a possibly unique case in ''Doctor Who'', this one was filmed without the newest regular castmember. "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E4StateOfDecay State of Decay]]", which featured Matthew Waterhouse as Adric, was filmed first, then "Meglos" without him, and then his introduction, "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E3FullCircle Full Circle]]".Circle]]". (Some wags over the years have suggested it was "[[TheScrappy so Waterhouse could take acting lessons]]", but this just seems to be a rather mean urban legend.)
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* OutOfOrder: In a possibly unique case in ''Doctor Who'', this one was filmed without the newest regular castmember. "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E4StateOfDecay State of Decay]]", which featured Adric, was filmed first, then "Meglos" without him, and then his introduction, "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E3FullCircle Full Circle]]".
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** Co-writer John Flanagan wanted Creator/LeeMarvin to play Grugger and was amazed when Bill Fraser was cast as he had not imagined him in the role at all. Creator/BrianBlessed, Creator/PeterCushing, Creator/DonaldPleasence, Creator/PeterVaughan and Creator/PeterWyngarde were also considered.

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** Co-writer John Flanagan wanted Creator/LeeMarvin to play Grugger and was amazed when Bill Fraser was cast as he had not imagined him in the role at all. Creator/BrianBlessed, Creator/PeterCushing, Creator/DonaldHouston, Creator/DonaldPleasence, Creator/PeterVaughan and Creator/PeterWyngarde were also considered.
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* ActingForTwo: Creator/TomBaker as both the Doctor and Meglos. Creates a fascinating contrast when they get locked in a cell together.

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* ActingForTwo: Creator/TomBaker as both the Doctor and Meglos. Creates a fascinating contrast when they get locked in a cell together. It also gave Baker the distinction of being the only person to have two waxworks in Madame Tussauds, as the ''Doctor Who'' exhibition which opened during production of this story featured sculptures of him as both the Doctor and Meglos.



* OldShame: Jacqueline Hill regretted appearing in the story feeling that since she played Barbara, it was inappropriate to appear as a different character.

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* OldShame: Jacqueline Hill regretted appearing in the story feeling that since she played Barbara, it was inappropriate to appear as a different character. John Nathan-Turner felt similarly, and decided not to bring back former regular cast members as different characters again.
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* InspirationForTheWork: Writers John Flanagan and Andrew [=McCulloch=] were struggling to think of the ultimate villain, until they realised that it was sitting there the whole time - a gnarled cactus.
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* OldShame: Jacqueline Hill regretted appearing in the story feeling that since she played Barbara, it was inappropriate to appear as a different character.
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* This serial is the only story of the original run where every credited cast member appears in every episode.

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** In the original storyline, Lexa had simply vanished from the action once she had served her purpose within the narrative. Christopher H. Bidmead suggested her act of self-sacrifice as a more dramatic end for the character.

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** In the original storyline, Lexa had simply vanished from the action once she had served her purpose within the narrative. Christopher H. Bidmead suggested her act of self-sacrifice as a more dramatic end for the character.



* YouLookFamiliar: Lexa is played by Jacqueline Hill, who had played the Doctor's companion Barbara Wright 15 years earlier.

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* YouLookFamiliar: Lexa is played by Jacqueline Hill, who had played the Doctor's companion Barbara Wright 15 years earlier.earlier.

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** Co-writer John Flanagan wanted Creator/LeeMarvin to play Grugger and was amazed when Bill Fraser was cast as he had not imagined him in the role at all. Harry Andrews, Bernard Archard, Creator/BrianBlessed, Creator/PeterCushing, James Ellis, [[Series/TheMisfit Ronald Fraser]], [[Series/TheOnedinLine Peter Gilmore]], Donald Houston, Glyn Houston, [[Series/ZCars Stratford Johns]], T.P. [=McKenna=], Creator/DonaldPleasence, Leonard Sachs, George Sewell, Nigel Stock, John Stratton, Richard Todd, Creator/PeterVaughan, [[Series/ZCars Frank Windsor]] and Creator/PeterWyngarde were also considered.
** [[Series/{{Catweazle}} Geoffrey Bayldon]], Timothy Bateson and Colin Jeavons were among those considered for Broadtac.
** Esmond Knight, Ralph Michael and Maurice Denham were in the running for Zastor.

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** Co-writer John Flanagan wanted Creator/LeeMarvin to play Grugger and was amazed when Bill Fraser was cast as he had not imagined him in the role at all. Harry Andrews, Bernard Archard, Creator/BrianBlessed, Creator/PeterCushing, James Ellis, [[Series/TheMisfit Ronald Fraser]], [[Series/TheOnedinLine Peter Gilmore]], Donald Houston, Glyn Houston, [[Series/ZCars Stratford Johns]], T.P. [=McKenna=], Creator/DonaldPleasence, Leonard Sachs, George Sewell, Nigel Stock, John Stratton, Richard Todd, Creator/PeterVaughan, [[Series/ZCars Frank Windsor]] Creator/PeterVaughan and Creator/PeterWyngarde were also considered.
** [[Series/{{Catweazle}} Geoffrey Bayldon]], Timothy Bateson and Colin Jeavons were among those considered for Broadtac.
** Esmond Knight, Ralph Michael and Maurice Denham were in the running for Zastor.
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** Co-writer John Flanagan wanted Creator/LeeMarvin to play Grugger and was amazed when Bill Fraser was cast as he had not imagined him in the role at all. Harry Andrews, Bernard Archard, Creator/BrianBlessed, Creator/PeterCushing, James Ellis, [[Series/TheMisfit Ronald Fraser]], [[Series/TheOnedinLine Peter Gilmore]], Donald Houston, Glyn Houston, [[Series/ZCars Stratford Johns]], T.P. [=McKenna=], Creator/DonaldPleasence, Leonard Sachs, George Sewell, Nigel Stock, John Stratton, Richard Todd, Creator/PeterVaughan, [[Series/ZCars Frank Windsor]] and [[Series/DepartmentS Peter Wyngarde]] were also considered.

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** Co-writer John Flanagan wanted Creator/LeeMarvin to play Grugger and was amazed when Bill Fraser was cast as he had not imagined him in the role at all. Harry Andrews, Bernard Archard, Creator/BrianBlessed, Creator/PeterCushing, James Ellis, [[Series/TheMisfit Ronald Fraser]], [[Series/TheOnedinLine Peter Gilmore]], Donald Houston, Glyn Houston, [[Series/ZCars Stratford Johns]], T.P. [=McKenna=], Creator/DonaldPleasence, Leonard Sachs, George Sewell, Nigel Stock, John Stratton, Richard Todd, Creator/PeterVaughan, [[Series/ZCars Frank Windsor]] and [[Series/DepartmentS Peter Wyngarde]] Creator/PeterWyngarde were also considered.
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* RecycledSoundtrack: The sound effect created for the approach of [[Recap/DoctorWhoS15E3ImageOfTheFendahl the Fendahl]] is re-used as background atmosphere for the Tigellan jungle, as well as effects used in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E4TheDaleksMasterPlan The Daleks' Master Plan]] and [[Recap/DoctorWhoS10E4PlanetOfTheDaleks Planet of the Daleks]].
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: In the original storyline, Lexa had simply vanished from the action once she had served her purpose within the narrative. Christopher H. Bidmead suggested her act of self-sacrifice as a more dramatic end for the character.

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* RecycledSoundtrack: The sound effect created for the approach of [[Recap/DoctorWhoS15E3ImageOfTheFendahl the Fendahl]] is re-used as background atmosphere for the Tigellan jungle, as well as effects used in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E4TheDaleksMasterPlan The Daleks' Master Plan]] and [[Recap/DoctorWhoS10E4PlanetOfTheDaleks Planet of the Daleks]].
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In the original storyline, Lexa had simply vanished from the action once she had served her purpose within the narrative. Christopher H. Bidmead suggested her act of self-sacrifice as a more dramatic end for the character.
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** Cc-writer John Flanagan wanted Creator/LeeMarvin to play Grugger and was amazed when Bill Fraser was cast as he had not imagined him in the role at all. Harry Andrews, Bernard Archard, Creator/BrianBlessed, Creator/PeterCushing, James Ellis, [[Series/TheMisfit Ronald Fraser]], [[Series/TheOnedinLine Peter Gilmore]], Donald Houston, Glyn Houston, [[Series/ZCars Stratford Johns]], T.P. McKenna, Creator/DonaldPleasence, Leonard Sachs, George Sewell, Nigel Stock, John Stratton, Richard Todd, Creator/PeterVaughan, [[Series/ZCars Frank Windsor]] and [[Series/DepartmentS Peter Wyngarde]] were also considered.

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** Cc-writer Co-writer John Flanagan wanted Creator/LeeMarvin to play Grugger and was amazed when Bill Fraser was cast as he had not imagined him in the role at all. Harry Andrews, Bernard Archard, Creator/BrianBlessed, Creator/PeterCushing, James Ellis, [[Series/TheMisfit Ronald Fraser]], [[Series/TheOnedinLine Peter Gilmore]], Donald Houston, Glyn Houston, [[Series/ZCars Stratford Johns]], T.P. McKenna, [=McKenna=], Creator/DonaldPleasence, Leonard Sachs, George Sewell, Nigel Stock, John Stratton, Richard Todd, Creator/PeterVaughan, [[Series/ZCars Frank Windsor]] and [[Series/DepartmentS Peter Wyngarde]] were also considered.
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** Cc-writer John Flanagan wanted Creator/LeeMarvin to play Grugger and was amazed when Bill Fraser was cast as he had not imagined him in the role at all. Harry Andrews, Bernard Archard, Creator/BrianBlessed, Creator/PeterCushing, James Ellis, [[Series/TheMisfit Ronald Fraser]], [[Series/TheOnedinLine Peter Gilmore]], Donald Houston, Glyn Houston, [[Series/ZCars Stratford Johns]], T.P. McKenna, Creator/DonaldPleasence, Leonard Sachs, George Sewell, Nigel Stock, John Stratton, Richard Todd, Creator/PeterVaughan, [[Series/ZCars Frank Windsor]] and [[Series/DepartmentS Peter Wyngarde]].

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** Cc-writer John Flanagan wanted Creator/LeeMarvin to play Grugger and was amazed when Bill Fraser was cast as he had not imagined him in the role at all. Harry Andrews, Bernard Archard, Creator/BrianBlessed, Creator/PeterCushing, James Ellis, [[Series/TheMisfit Ronald Fraser]], [[Series/TheOnedinLine Peter Gilmore]], Donald Houston, Glyn Houston, [[Series/ZCars Stratford Johns]], T.P. McKenna, Creator/DonaldPleasence, Leonard Sachs, George Sewell, Nigel Stock, John Stratton, Richard Todd, Creator/PeterVaughan, [[Series/ZCars Frank Windsor]] and [[Series/DepartmentS Peter Wyngarde]].Wyngarde]] were also considered.
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* AwesomeDearBoy: The UK press reported that Bill Fraser only took the role of Grugger so he could kick K9.



** Cc-writer John Flanagan wanted Creator/LeeMarvin to play Grugger and was amazed when Bill Fraser was cast as he had not imagined him in the role at all. Amongst those considered for the part were Creator/BrianBlessed, Creator/PeterCushing and Creator/DonaldPleasance.

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** Cc-writer John Flanagan wanted Creator/LeeMarvin to play Grugger and was amazed when Bill Fraser was cast as he had not imagined him in the role at all. Amongst those considered for the part were Harry Andrews, Bernard Archard, Creator/BrianBlessed, Creator/PeterCushing Creator/PeterCushing, James Ellis, [[Series/TheMisfit Ronald Fraser]], [[Series/TheOnedinLine Peter Gilmore]], Donald Houston, Glyn Houston, [[Series/ZCars Stratford Johns]], T.P. McKenna, Creator/DonaldPleasence, Leonard Sachs, George Sewell, Nigel Stock, John Stratton, Richard Todd, Creator/PeterVaughan, [[Series/ZCars Frank Windsor]] and Creator/DonaldPleasance.[[Series/DepartmentS Peter Wyngarde]].
** [[Series/{{Catweazle}} Geoffrey Bayldon]], Timothy Bateson and Colin Jeavons were among those considered for Broadtac.
** Esmond Knight, Ralph Michael and Maurice Denham were in the running for Zastor.
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* RecycledSoundtrack: The sound effect created for the approach of [[Recap/DoctorWhoS15E3ImageOfTheFendahl the Fendahl]] is re-used as background atmosphere for the Tigellan jungle, as well as effects used in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E4TheDaleksMasterPlan The Daleks' Master Plan]] and [[Recap/DoctorWhoS10E4PlanetOfTheDaleks Planet of the Daleks]].
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: In the original storyline, Lexa had simply vanished from the action once she had served her purpose within the narrative. Christopher H. Bidmead suggested her act of self-sacrifice as a more dramatic end for the character.
** Cc-writer John Flanagan wanted Creator/LeeMarvin to play Grugger and was amazed when Bill Fraser was cast as he had not imagined him in the role at all. Amongst those considered for the part were Creator/BrianBlessed, Creator/PeterCushing and Creator/DonaldPleasance.
* WorkingTitle: ''The Golden Star'', ''The Golden Pentangle'', ''The Golden Pentagram'', ''The Last Sol-Fataran'' and ''The Last Zolfa-Thuran''.
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* ActingForTwo: Creator/TomBaker as both the Doctor and Meglos. Creates a fascinating contrast when they get locked in a cell together.
* YouLookFamiliar: Lexa is played by Jacqueline Hill, who had played the Doctor's companion Barbara Wright 15 years earlier.

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