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* BuryYourGays: Played completely straight with Tink. It's rather noticeable that he is the only character who does not get a happy ending, even including Falco.
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* BuryYourGays: Played completely straight with [[spoiler: Tink. It's rather noticeable that he is the only character who does not get a happy ending, even including Falco.]]
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* BuryYourGays: Played completely straight with Tink. It's rather noticeable that he is the only character who does not get a happy ending, even including Falco.
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* StealthPun: The one gay character, Tink, is based on Tinkerbell. A fairy.
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** "In the Land of the Pig The Butcher Is King" is cut from the New York City production, making Falco a somewhat less dark character.
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** "In the Land of the Pig The Butcher Is King" is cut from the New York City production, making which, by removing the scene where Falco inflicts ColdBloodedTorture on the Lost, makes him a somewhat less dark character.less-villainous character and [[spoiler: makes his HeelFaceTurn more palatable]]. Unfortunately, it has the side effect of removing one of Sloane's most heroic moments, [[spoiler: where she frees the Lost against her husband's wishes]], reducing her to little more than a bystander.
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** Cut from the the New York City production, which makes [[spoiler: Falco's redemption]] more palatable.
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** "In the Land of the Pig The Butcher Is King" is cut from the New York City production, making Falco a somewhat less dark character.
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* EasilyForgiven: [[spoiler: Falco's redemption can seem like this; Tink's death was an accident, but he may have already crossed the MoralEventHorizon earlier in the show with the ColdBloodedTorture. The New York City production deals with this by cutting "In The Land of the Pig The Butcher Is King". Don't worry, he doesn't go ''too'' soft - as Strat points out "The entire city is burning."]]
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* TheBabyOfTheBunch: Tink is this, frozen younger than the rest of The Lost, and he hates being treated as such.
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* MurderTheHypotenuse: [[spoiler: Or get her taken away and locked up by her father, that’s just as good, as far as Tink’s concerned.]]
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* DarkAndTroubledPast: Jagwire, Blake and Ledoux use “Objects In The Rear View Mirror May Appear Closer Than They Are” to admit their lives were awful even before they were frozen.
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* DealWithTheDevil: [[spoiler: Jealous of Raven as the object of Strat’s affection, Tink offers to lead Falco to the Lost so he can take Raven away, on condition no one else gets hurt.]] Predictably, it ends badly.
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* TimeSkip: Towards the end of the show, things skip forward six months.
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CutSong: “It Just Won’t Quit” and “Good Girls Go To Heaven (Bad Girls Go Everywhere)” were cut from the show but survived on the cast recording.
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* ThoseTwoGuys: Blake and Ledoux, friends of Strat and members of the Lost who don’t get as much development as Strat, Tink, Zahara and Jagwire, but are always there.
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* DatingWhatDaddyHates: 90% of the conflict is derived from Falco’s fury that his daughter Raven is interested in a member of the Lost.
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* MaliciousMisnaming: [[spoiler: when Tink comes to make a deal with Falco, the latter keeps getting his name wrong for laughs.]]
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* Fanservice: Pretty much half of the show is this
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*DesignStudentsOrgasm: It's a Jim Steinman production, what did you expect? The show basically has this as its aesthetic
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* Heel-FaceTurn: [[spoiler:Sloane and Falco]], sort of
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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: Tink, courtesy of Falco]]
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* WhoWantsToLiveForever?: Averted. None of the Lost besides [[spoiler: Tink]] ever show much angst about their situation
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* WhoWantsToLiveForever?: WhoWantsToLiveForever: Averted. None of the Lost besides [[spoiler: Tink]] ever show much angst about their situation
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* WalkingShirtlessScene: Both Strat, who never seems to finish putting a shirt on, and Falco, who rips his off at every given opportunity
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*WhoWantsToLiveForever?: Averted. None of the Lost besides [[spoiler: Tink]] ever show much angst about their situation
*WhoWantsToLiveForever?: Averted. None of the Lost besides [[spoiler: Tink]] ever show much angst about their situation
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** "Who Needs the Young" has traces of this for both Falco and Sloane
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* WalkingShirtlessScene: Both Strat, who never seems to finish putting a shirt on, and Falco, who rips his off at every given opportunity
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* ColdBloodedTorture: [[spoiler: The Lost (minus Zahara) receive this at the hands of Falco and his guards during "In the Land of the Pig, the Butcher is King", with electrocution, drowning and beatings being seen.]]
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* DisneyDeath: [[spoiler: Strat, the main character, gets one at the end of act one. He crashes during "Bat Out of Hell", and everyone believes him dead, but Zahara nurses him back to health with some of Raven's blood.]]
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* AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents: Among Falco and Sloane's many faults. Best exemplified during [[spoiler: "Paradise By the Dashboard Light", when Raven walks in on them in their underwear about to have sex, at her birthday party.]]
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* Heel-FaceTurn: [[spoiler:Sloane and Falco]], sort of
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* VillainSong: Falco gets "In The Land Of The Pig, The Butcher Is King".
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* VillainSong: Falco gets "In The Land Of The Pig, The Butcher Is King".King".
** "Who Needs the Young" has traces of this for both Falco and Sloane
** "Who Needs the Young" has traces of this for both Falco and Sloane
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''Bat Out Of Hell'', billed fully as ''Jim Steinman's Bat Out Of Hell The Musical'' is a rock musical with songs mostly drawn from the [[Music/BatOutOfHell Bat Out Of Hell]] albums. Written by Creator/JimSteinman, it embraces his love of rock cliches and Peter Pan. The show debuted in Manchester in February of 2017 and has since travelled to London, then to Toronto, and then back to London.
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''Bat Out Of Hell'', billed fully as ''Jim Steinman's Bat Out Of Hell The Musical'' is a rock musical with songs mostly drawn from the [[Music/BatOutOfHell Bat Out Of Hell]] albums. Written by Creator/JimSteinman, [[Music/JimSteinman Steinman]], it embraces his love of rock cliches and Peter Pan. The show debuted in Manchester in February of 2017 and has since travelled to London, then to Toronto, and then back to London.
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''Bat Out Of Hell'', billed fully as ''Jim Steinman's Bat Out Of Hell The Musical'' is a rock musical with songs mostly drawn from the [[Music/BatOutOfHell Bat Out Of Hell]] albums. Written by [[Creator/JimSteinman Steinman]], it embraces his love of rock cliches and Peter Pan. The show debuted in Manchester in February of 2017 and has since travelled to London, then to Toronto, and then back to London.
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''Bat Out Of Hell'', billed fully as ''Jim Steinman's Bat Out Of Hell The Musical'' is a rock musical with songs mostly drawn from the [[Music/BatOutOfHell Bat Out Of Hell]] albums. Written by [[Creator/JimSteinman Steinman]], Creator/JimSteinman, it embraces his love of rock cliches and Peter Pan. The show debuted in Manchester in February of 2017 and has since travelled to London, then to Toronto, and then back to London.
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''Bat Out Of Hell'', billed fully as ''Jim Steinman's Bat Out Of Hell The Musical'' is a rock musical with songs mostly drawn from the [[Music/BatOutOfHell Bat Out Of Hell]] albums. Written by [[JimSteinman [[Creator/JimSteinman Steinman]], it embraces his love of rock cliches and Peter Pan. The show debuted in Manchester in February of 2017 and has since travelled to London, then to Toronto, and then back to London.
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* RunningGag: Strat recites the first line of the spoken intro to "You Took The Words Right Out Of My Mouth", and is met with confusion by the person he's saying it to, and Strat indignantly declares "You're supposed to come up with a response!"
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* RunningGag: Strat recites the first line of the spoken intro to "You Took The Words Right Out Of My Mouth", and is met with confusion by the person he's saying it to, and Strat indignantly declares "You're supposed to come up with a response!" The last person he says it to is Raven, who finally gives a response, which leads to the dialogue being finished and the song performed.
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* RunningGag: Strat recites the first line of "You Took The Words Right Out Of My Mouth"
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* SpokenWordInMusic: The baseball play-by-play in "Paradise By The Dashboard Light" is preserved. As is the dialogue from "You Took The words Right out of My mouth", for the above RunningGag.
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* SpokenWordInMusic: The baseball play-by-play in "Paradise By The Dashboard Light" is preserved. As is the dialogue from "You Took The words Words Right out of Out Of My mouth", Mouth", for the above RunningGag.
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* SpokenWordInMusic: The baseball play-by-play in "Paradise By The Dashboard Light" is preserved. As is the dialogue from "You Took The words Right out of My mouth", for the above RunningGag.
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''Bat Out Of Hell'', billed fulled as ''Jim Steinman's Bat Out Of Hell The Musical'' is a rock musical with songs mostly drawn from the [[Music/BatOutOfHell Bat Out Of Hell]] albums. Written by [[JimSteinman Steinman]], it embraces his love of rock cliches and Peter Pan. The show debuted in Manchester in February of 2017 and has since travelled to London, then to Toronto, and then back to London.
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''Bat Out Of Hell'', billed fulled fully as ''Jim Steinman's Bat Out Of Hell The Musical'' is a rock musical with songs mostly drawn from the [[Music/BatOutOfHell Bat Out Of Hell]] albums. Written by [[JimSteinman Steinman]], it embraces his love of rock cliches and Peter Pan. The show debuted in Manchester in February of 2017 and has since travelled to London, then to Toronto, and then back to London.
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''Bat Out Of Hell'', billed fulled as ''Jim Steinman's Bat Out Of Hell The Musical'' is a rock musical with songs mostly drawn from the [[Music/BatOutOfHell Bat Out Of Hell]] albums. Written by [[JimSteinman Steinman]], it embraces his love of rock cliches and Peter Pan. The show debuted in Manchester in February of 2017 and has since travelled to London, then to Toronto, and then back to London.
The plot follows Strat, the poster child of a group of outcasts in the city of Obsidian called The Lost, whose bodies and minds are stuck at age 18 following the Chemical Wars, and his romance with Raven Falco, daughter of a wealthy industrialist who is just turning 18 as the story begins. Their romance is impeded by her father's zealous protection of her from the likes of the Lost and is eager to kill Strat upon hearing of him, and the jealousy of Tink, a member of The Lost whose mutation goes further and has him stuck around age 17 and acting even more immature.
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* AfterTheEnd: The Chemical Wars are referenced as, among other things, the cause of The Lost's mutation, and the show is set in what was once Manhattan, now called Obsidian.
* TheAgeless: The Lost.
* AllThereInTheManual: An abbreviated newspaper written from an in-universe perspective is left waiting for the audience on their seats so they can find out things like the names of the less prominent characters, who the Falco family are, and what the deal is with The Lost.
* AutoErotica: "Paradise By The Dashboard Light" plays out between Falco and Sloane, complete with a car set piece. Also referenced in Ledoux's verse in "Objects In The Rear View Mirror May Appear Closer Than They Are".
* BadassBiker: Most of The Lost get a turn riding a motorcycle into a scene, but Jagwire, Ledoux, and of course Strat stand out.
* BetaCouple: Downplayed, or possibly even inverted, with Zahara and Jagwire. Zahara's emotional baggage leads her to utterly shut Jagwire's advances down early in the show, but their relationship doesn't receive much obvious development from then to "Dead Ringer For Love", by which point she seems to have gotten over it. Played straighter with other members of The Lost, who consistently couple up in the background.
* FantasticGhetto: The Lost are relegated to an area of Obsidian known as The Deep End, which is implied by one line to be underground.
* FantasticRacism: The Lost are discriminated against for their condition, with society believing them to be violent and thoughtless.
* ImmortalityBeginsAtTwenty: In fact, it begins at 18 for the random percentage of the population who become Lost.
* ImmortalImmaturity: To the point that The Lost seem to actually be incapable of developing psychologically past 18 as well as aging physically past it. Tink, who is described as "a mutation of a mutation" and frozen slightly younger than the rest of The Lost, behaves almost like a child.
* JukeboxMusical: Of the [[Music/BatOutOfHell Bat Out Of Hell]] albums mostly, but also some of Steinman's other work.
* MayflyDecemberRomance: A concern that Raven has about her relationship with Strat is that she'll age while he remains young.
* MegaCorp: It's not clear what Falco Industries does exactly, but it seems to have its fingers in housing and power, as well as having intimidating private security.
* OdeToYouth: "Wasted Youth" has The Lost revelling in their eternal immaturity, while "Who Needs The Young" has Falco and Sloane bitterly going over the finer points of aging.
* RockOpera: Certainly has the right tone with Steinman at the wheel. Although the music wasn't originally written for the musical, it does try to bring together the Neverland concept that Steinman had been weaving into his work over the years.
* ShoutOut: Multiple to Peter Pan, from the naming of Tink to the eternally-young Lost, to an advice columnist in the supplementary newspaper named Wendy.
* SpokenWordInMusic: The baseball play-by-play in "Paradise By The Dashboard Light" is preserved.
* TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture: According to the supplementary newspaper, the show begins in October of 2030.
* VillainSong: Falco gets "In The Land Of The Pig, The Butcher Is King".
The plot follows Strat, the poster child of a group of outcasts in the city of Obsidian called The Lost, whose bodies and minds are stuck at age 18 following the Chemical Wars, and his romance with Raven Falco, daughter of a wealthy industrialist who is just turning 18 as the story begins. Their romance is impeded by her father's zealous protection of her from the likes of the Lost and is eager to kill Strat upon hearing of him, and the jealousy of Tink, a member of The Lost whose mutation goes further and has him stuck around age 17 and acting even more immature.
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!!''Bat Out Of Hell'' contains examples of:
* AfterTheEnd: The Chemical Wars are referenced as, among other things, the cause of The Lost's mutation, and the show is set in what was once Manhattan, now called Obsidian.
* TheAgeless: The Lost.
* AllThereInTheManual: An abbreviated newspaper written from an in-universe perspective is left waiting for the audience on their seats so they can find out things like the names of the less prominent characters, who the Falco family are, and what the deal is with The Lost.
* AutoErotica: "Paradise By The Dashboard Light" plays out between Falco and Sloane, complete with a car set piece. Also referenced in Ledoux's verse in "Objects In The Rear View Mirror May Appear Closer Than They Are".
* BadassBiker: Most of The Lost get a turn riding a motorcycle into a scene, but Jagwire, Ledoux, and of course Strat stand out.
* BetaCouple: Downplayed, or possibly even inverted, with Zahara and Jagwire. Zahara's emotional baggage leads her to utterly shut Jagwire's advances down early in the show, but their relationship doesn't receive much obvious development from then to "Dead Ringer For Love", by which point she seems to have gotten over it. Played straighter with other members of The Lost, who consistently couple up in the background.
* FantasticGhetto: The Lost are relegated to an area of Obsidian known as The Deep End, which is implied by one line to be underground.
* FantasticRacism: The Lost are discriminated against for their condition, with society believing them to be violent and thoughtless.
* ImmortalityBeginsAtTwenty: In fact, it begins at 18 for the random percentage of the population who become Lost.
* ImmortalImmaturity: To the point that The Lost seem to actually be incapable of developing psychologically past 18 as well as aging physically past it. Tink, who is described as "a mutation of a mutation" and frozen slightly younger than the rest of The Lost, behaves almost like a child.
* JukeboxMusical: Of the [[Music/BatOutOfHell Bat Out Of Hell]] albums mostly, but also some of Steinman's other work.
* MayflyDecemberRomance: A concern that Raven has about her relationship with Strat is that she'll age while he remains young.
* MegaCorp: It's not clear what Falco Industries does exactly, but it seems to have its fingers in housing and power, as well as having intimidating private security.
* OdeToYouth: "Wasted Youth" has The Lost revelling in their eternal immaturity, while "Who Needs The Young" has Falco and Sloane bitterly going over the finer points of aging.
* RockOpera: Certainly has the right tone with Steinman at the wheel. Although the music wasn't originally written for the musical, it does try to bring together the Neverland concept that Steinman had been weaving into his work over the years.
* ShoutOut: Multiple to Peter Pan, from the naming of Tink to the eternally-young Lost, to an advice columnist in the supplementary newspaper named Wendy.
* SpokenWordInMusic: The baseball play-by-play in "Paradise By The Dashboard Light" is preserved.
* TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture: According to the supplementary newspaper, the show begins in October of 2030.
* VillainSong: Falco gets "In The Land Of The Pig, The Butcher Is King".
