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* ''ComicBook/SeasonOne''
** Derek Halperin gives one to General Ross, calling him a "Powerpoint Commando" who doesn't know what real battle is like anymore.
** ComicBook/JeanGrey gives a less-meanspirited one to Hank in X-Men: Season One.
---> '''Jean Grey:''' This is an argument between two people way smarter than me. It'd be silly to jump in the middle. But one of those guys told me today that, no matter what, [[TrueCompanions he'll never give up on his friend]]. The other one said his best friend can do without him. That it's time to focus on being selfish. [[AchillesInHisTent And he's pretty much given up on the whole world]]. \\
I can hardly believe it, Hank. But I think you just made me proud to be an X-Man.
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* In ''ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk'' #256, the Hulk ends up in Tel Aviv, Israel and befriends a young boy, Sahad, who has no interest in the fight between the Arab and Jewish people over what they consider the Holy Land, mostly because he can't read, so he doesn't understand what's going on. However, Sahad is caught in the explosion by Arab terrorists and Hulk is later MistakenForTerrorist by Sabra (making her first appearance), attacking him when he tries to bury the boy elsewhere. Ultimately, Hulk gets pissed off and tearily tells off Sabra:
-->'''Hulk:''' Boy died because boy's people and your people want to own land! Boy died because you wouldn't ''share''! Boy died because of two old ''books'' that said his people and your people must ''fight'' and ''kill'' for land! Now, boy is dead-- '''''BUT BOY DIDN'T EVEN READ BOOKS! [[SkywardScream ARRGH!]]''''' Hulk came looking for peace-- but there is ''no peace'' here!
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* ''ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}'': Deadpool has been on both the giving and receiving end iof this over the years.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}'': Deadpool has been on both the giving and receiving end iof of this over the years.
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** In ''Avengers Annual #10'', when Creator/ChrisClaremont [[{{Retcon}} undid the hideous damage]] done to ComicBook/MsMarvel in ''Avengers #200'', he has her deliver a furious WhatTheHellHero to the Avengers for allowing her to be taken away and brainwashed after she'd been [[ItMakesSenseInContext raped and impregnated with an extradimensional being]] by her rapist, Marcus. The section of the story containing it can be fully seen [[http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/779496.html#cutid1 here.]]

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** In ''Avengers Annual #10'', when Creator/ChrisClaremont [[{{Retcon}} undid the hideous damage]] done to ComicBook/CarolDanvers a.k.a. ComicBook/MsMarvel in ''Avengers #200'', he has her deliver a furious WhatTheHellHero to the Avengers for allowing her to be taken away and brainwashed after she'd been [[ItMakesSenseInContext raped and impregnated with an extradimensional being]] by her rapist, Marcus. The section of the story containing it can be fully seen [[http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/779496.html#cutid1 here.]]
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-->'''Hank:''' '''How dare you!''' ''[flips the table and begins beating down Tony]'' ''I'' discovered Pym particles. ''I'' took artificial intelligence to the next level. ''I'' founded the Avengers Academy! What have ''you'' ever done?! You were a lout and a cretin who made his fortune selling weapons to murderers! Your arrogance started [[ComicBook/CivilWar2006 two]] [[ComicBook/CivilWarII wars]] -- [[ComicBook/SecretInvasion your incompetence]] put ''Norman Osborn'' [[ComicBook/DarkReign in power]]! And ''you'' try to lecture ''me?!'' Every day, I had to hold this monster inside me at bay — do you understand what he would do if I let him loose? He would incinerate the flesh of every man, woman and child on Earth and laugh about it! Every day I live with this, and I save the world a hundred times over! But I made '''''one''''' mistake -- one mistake! Years ago! [[OnceDoneNeverForgotten And it's all any of you will ever remember me for -- all you ever say about me!]] You think I can't hear the whispers?! The way you look at me when I walk into the room?

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-->'''Hank:''' '''How dare you!''' ''[flips the table and begins beating down Tony]'' ''I'' discovered Pym particles. ''I'' took artificial intelligence to the next level. ''I'' founded the Avengers Academy! What have ''you'' ever done?! You were a lout and a cretin who made his fortune selling weapons to murderers! Your arrogance started [[ComicBook/CivilWar2006 two]] [[ComicBook/CivilWarII wars]] -- [[ComicBook/SecretInvasion [[ComicBook/SecretInvasion2008 your incompetence]] put ''Norman Osborn'' [[ComicBook/DarkReign in power]]! And ''you'' try to lecture ''me?!'' Every day, I had to hold this monster inside me at bay — do you understand what he would do if I let him loose? He would incinerate the flesh of every man, woman and child on Earth and laugh about it! Every day I live with this, and I save the world a hundred times over! But I made '''''one''''' mistake -- one mistake! Years ago! [[OnceDoneNeverForgotten And it's all any of you will ever remember me for -- all you ever say about me!]] You think I can't hear the whispers?! The way you look at me when I walk into the room?
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'''Carol:''' ''[[[DeskSweepOfRage sweeping the end table in a rage]]]'' DIDN'T YOU DO ENOUGH TO '''CAUSE''' IT?! ''[...]'' Wanda, I never wanted to see you -- any of you -- again. I ''hated'' you. Because when I needed you most, you ''betrayed'' me. ''[[[BerserkerTears tears up in quiet anger]]]'' There I was, pregnant by an unknown source, [[ExpressDelivery running through a nine-month term literally overnight]] -- confused, shaken to the core of my being as a person. A person, a woman. I turned to you for help, and I got jokes. ComicBook/TheWasp thought it was great and the Beast offered to play teddy bear. Your concerns were for the baby, not for [[ChildByRape how it came to be]] -- nor of the cost to me of that conception. You took everything [[ManipulativeBastard Marcus]] said at face value. You didn't question, you didn't doubt. You simply let me go with a wave and a bouncy ''bon voyage''. That was your mistake for which I paid the price. ''My'' mistake was trusting you.

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'''Carol:''' ''[[[DeskSweepOfRage sweeping the end table in a rage]]]'' DIDN'T YOU DO ENOUGH TO '''CAUSE''' IT?! Didn't you do enough to CAUSE it?! ''[...]'' Wanda, I never wanted to see you -- any of you -- again. I ''hated'' you. Because when I needed you most, you ''betrayed'' me. ''[[[BerserkerTears tears up in quiet anger]]]'' There I was, pregnant by an unknown source, [[ExpressDelivery running through a nine-month term literally overnight]] -- confused, shaken to the core of my being as a person. A person, a woman. I turned to you for help, and I got jokes. ComicBook/TheWasp thought it was great and the Beast offered to play teddy bear. Your concerns were for the baby, not for [[ChildByRape how it came to be]] -- nor of the cost to me of that conception. You took everything [[ManipulativeBastard Marcus]] said at face value. You didn't question, you didn't doubt. You simply let me go with a wave and a bouncy ''bon voyage''. That was your mistake for which I paid the price. ''My'' mistake was trusting you.
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** In ''ComicBook/AvengersTheInitiative '' #3, when Komodo has ComicBook/SpiderMan pinned down with a device to remove his powers just ready to stick into him and Spidey cracks a joke about the situation, Komodo doesn't expect that her snide retort is going to lead to a full-scale demolition of her in response:

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** In ''ComicBook/AvengersTheInitiative '' ''ComicBook/AvengersTheInitiative'' #3, when Komodo has ComicBook/SpiderMan pinned down with a device to remove his powers just ready to stick into him and Spidey cracks a joke about the situation, Komodo doesn't expect that her snide retort is going to lead to a full-scale demolition of her in response:

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** In ''Avengers Annual #10'', when Creator/ChrisClaremont [[{{Retcon}} undid the hideous damage]] done to ComicBook/CarolDanvers in ''Avengers #200'', he has her deliver a furious WhatTheHellHero to the Avengers for allowing her to be taken away and brainwashed after she'd been [[ItMakesSenseInContext raped and impregnated with an extradimensional being]] by her rapist, Marcus. The section of the story containing it can be fully seen [[http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/779496.html#cutid1 here.]]
---> '''Carol''': Wanda, I never wanted to see you -- any of you -- again. I ''hated'' you. Because when I needed you most, you ''betrayed'' me. (''[[BerserkerTears tears up in quiet anger]]'') There I was, pregnant by an unknown source, [[ExpressDelivery running through a nine-month term literally overnight]] -- confused, shaken to the core of my being as a person. A person, a woman. I turned to you for help, and I got jokes. ComicBook/TheWasp thought it was great and the Beast offered to play teddy bear. Your concerns were for the baby, not for [[ChildByRape how it came to be]] -- nor of the cost to me of that conception. You took everything [[ManipulativeBastard Marcus]] said at face value. You didn't question, you didn't doubt. You simply let me go with a wave and a bouncy ''bon voyage''. That was your mistake for which I paid the price. ''My'' mistake was trusting you.
*** The true beginning of this speech was a few pages earlier:
---->'''Iron Man''': We're very sorry, Carol. [[DramaticallyMissingThePoint You two made a wonderful couple, we hoped you'd be happy together]]. Is there anything we can do to help ease your pain?
---->'''Carol''': (''[[DeskSweepOfRage sweeping the end table in a rage]]'') DIDN'T YOU DO ENOUGH TO '''CAUSE''' IT?!

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** In ''Avengers Annual #10'', when Creator/ChrisClaremont [[{{Retcon}} undid the hideous damage]] done to ComicBook/CarolDanvers ComicBook/MsMarvel in ''Avengers #200'', he has her deliver a furious WhatTheHellHero to the Avengers for allowing her to be taken away and brainwashed after she'd been [[ItMakesSenseInContext raped and impregnated with an extradimensional being]] by her rapist, Marcus. The section of the story containing it can be fully seen [[http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/779496.html#cutid1 here.]]
---> '''Carol''': --->'''Iron Man:''' We're very sorry, Carol. [[DramaticallyMissingThePoint You two made a wonderful couple, we hoped you'd be happy together]]. Is there anything we can do to help ease your pain?\\
'''Carol:''' ''[[[DeskSweepOfRage sweeping the end table in a rage]]]'' DIDN'T YOU DO ENOUGH TO '''CAUSE''' IT?! ''[...]''
Wanda, I never wanted to see you -- any of you -- again. I ''hated'' you. Because when I needed you most, you ''betrayed'' me. (''[[BerserkerTears ''[[[BerserkerTears tears up in quiet anger]]'') anger]]]'' There I was, pregnant by an unknown source, [[ExpressDelivery running through a nine-month term literally overnight]] -- confused, shaken to the core of my being as a person. A person, a woman. I turned to you for help, and I got jokes. ComicBook/TheWasp thought it was great and the Beast offered to play teddy bear. Your concerns were for the baby, not for [[ChildByRape how it came to be]] -- nor of the cost to me of that conception. You took everything [[ManipulativeBastard Marcus]] said at face value. You didn't question, you didn't doubt. You simply let me go with a wave and a bouncy ''bon voyage''. That was your mistake for which I paid the price. ''My'' mistake was trusting you.
*** The true beginning of this speech was a few pages earlier:
---->'''Iron Man''': We're very sorry, Carol. [[DramaticallyMissingThePoint You two made a wonderful couple, we hoped you'd be happy together]]. Is there anything we can do to help ease your pain?
---->'''Carol''': (''[[DeskSweepOfRage sweeping the end table in a rage]]'') DIDN'T YOU DO ENOUGH TO '''CAUSE''' IT?!
you.



** In ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'' #0, ComicBook/TheVision delivers one to the ComicBook/ScarletWitch, when even he can't overlook her actions anymore
---> '''Vision:''' I have empathy for all your life struggles. And I have empathy for the manipulations that you may have endured. But what I do not have compassion or understanding for is the idea that, when you were at your lowest, you chose out of the millions of choices and variables in front of you...You chose to overpower me and use my body as a weapon against my friends and my home. That I cannot forgive.
** In ''[[ComicBook/AvengersTheInitiative Avengers: The Initiative]]'' #3, when Komodo has ComicBook/SpiderMan pinned down with a device to remove his powers just ready to stick into him and Spidey cracks a joke about the situation, Komodo doesn't expect that her snide retort is going to lead to a full-scale demolition of her in response:
--->'''Komodo:''' (''prepares to stab him with the device'') Don't worry, Commander! He's mine!
--->'''Spider-Man:''' Really? [[TheGadfly But Valentine's Day was]] ''[[TheGadfly months]]'' [[TheGadfly ago!]]
--->'''Komodo:''' Always with the jokes, huh?
--->'''Spider-Man:''' Fine. You want me to be serious? I can do serious. You've already lost.
--->'''Komodo:''' No way. I've only got to prick you once, and-
--->'''Spider-Man:''' Not gonna happen. You know why? Because I'm Spider-Man. And ''you're'' a dollar store version of the Lizard. See, I beat down guys like Doc Ock, Sandman and Venom all the time. And you're just not in their league. Oh, I'm going to win. And after you've crawled back home with your tail between your legs, you know what happens then? Then your buddies are going to stick one of those things into you!
--->'''Komodo:''' What? [[LittleNo No...!]]
--->'''Spider-Man:''' Ah -- you blinked. ''(he fires a web shot into her face so hard it sends her reeling)'' Game to Spidey. ''(hurls Komodo off of him with a kick)'' Let me tell you, you Initiative guys, you're real pieces of work!
*** Komodo finds this speech so bad that once he's escaped, ComicBook/WarMachine later finds her [[DespairEventHorizon crying inconsolably and begging not to be depowered]]. Spider-Man thought Komodo was given her powers by the government. In fact, Komodo's powers were the result of months of research following years of study, and allowed her to regrow legs she lost in a car accident so severe it took paramedics two hours to cut her out of the wreck. [[InnocentlyInsensitive The threat hit harder and deeper than Spidey probably intended]].

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** In ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'' #0, ComicBook/TheVision delivers one to the ComicBook/ScarletWitch, Scarlet Witch, when even he can't overlook her actions anymore
---> '''Vision:''' --->'''Vision:''' I have empathy for all your life struggles. And I have empathy for the manipulations that you may have endured. But what I do not have compassion or understanding for is the idea that, when you were at your lowest, you chose out of the millions of choices and variables in front of you...You chose to overpower me and use my body as a weapon against my friends and my home. That I cannot forgive.
** In ''[[ComicBook/AvengersTheInitiative Avengers: The Initiative]]'' ''ComicBook/AvengersTheInitiative '' #3, when Komodo has ComicBook/SpiderMan pinned down with a device to remove his powers just ready to stick into him and Spidey cracks a joke about the situation, Komodo doesn't expect that her snide retort is going to lead to a full-scale demolition of her in response:
--->'''Komodo:''' (''prepares ''[prepares to stab him with the device'') device]'' Don't worry, Commander! He's mine!
--->'''Spider-Man:'''
mine!\\
'''Spider-Man:'''
Really? [[TheGadfly But Valentine's Day was]] ''[[TheGadfly months]]'' [[TheGadfly ago!]]
--->'''Komodo:'''
was months ago!]]\\
'''Komodo:'''
Always with the jokes, huh?
--->'''Spider-Man:'''
huh?\\
'''Spider-Man:'''
Fine. You want me to be serious? I can do serious. You've already lost.
--->'''Komodo:'''
lost.\\
'''Komodo:'''
No way. I've only got to prick you once, and-
--->'''Spider-Man:'''
and--\\
'''Spider-Man:'''
Not gonna happen. You know why? Because I'm Spider-Man. And ''you're'' a dollar store version of the Lizard. See, I beat down guys like Doc Ock, Sandman and Venom all the time. And you're just not in their league. Oh, I'm going to win. And after you've crawled back home with your tail between your legs, you know what happens then? Then your buddies are going to stick one of those things into you!
--->'''Komodo:'''
you!\\
'''Komodo:'''
What? [[LittleNo No...!]]
--->'''Spider-Man:'''
!]]\\
'''Spider-Man:'''
Ah -- you blinked. ''(he ''[he fires a web shot into her face so hard it sends her reeling)'' reeling]'' Game to Spidey. ''(hurls ''[hurls Komodo off of him with a kick)'' kick]'' Let me tell you, you Initiative guys, you're real pieces of work!
*** Komodo finds this speech so bad that once he's escaped, ComicBook/WarMachine War Machine later finds her [[DespairEventHorizon crying inconsolably and begging not to be depowered]]. Spider-Man thought Komodo was given her powers by the government. In fact, Komodo's powers were the result of months of research following years of study, and allowed her to regrow legs she lost in a car accident so severe it took paramedics two hours to cut her out of the wreck. [[InnocentlyInsensitive The threat hit harder and deeper than Spidey probably intended]].



** Followed an issue later by ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[spoiler: now incarcerated for his actions during the event]] giving one to Logan because [[spoiler: it was all his fault all this happened the way it did, and he nearly destroyed the Earth by attempting to kill Hope Summers.]]
* ''ComicBook/CivilWarII'' In the epilogue issue ''The Oath'', Captain America gives a private one to the superhero community on being too busy fighting each other to protect the people (although it should be noted that this speech is given by a Cap who has been secretly 'reprogrammed' to believe he's been a HYDRA sleeper agent since childhood).
--> '''Steve:''' You call yourselves "heroes" while you waste most of your time infighting and settling petty grudges. You call yourselves leaders while you jockey around for authority and pecking rights, trying to make yourselves look good-while the truth is you've completely divorced yourself from the people you claim to protect. You have no understanding of what they want or need from you anymore.
* ComicBook/{{Daken}} and ComicBook/{{X 23}} take turns delivering this to each other during their rampage through Colcord's base. Daken tries to call her out on her empathy for others, believing that her skills as a killer make her better than everyone around her, and that her heart only forces her to hold back. Laura flatly tells him that she doesn't fight because she has something to prove, but for something bigger than herself. She then turns this around on him, asking why he holds back by not taking the risk of allowing himself to actually care for anyone. Daken doesn't really have an answer.

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** Followed an issue later by ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[spoiler: now Cyclops, [[spoiler:now incarcerated for his actions during the event]] event]], giving one to Logan because [[spoiler: it [[spoiler:it was all his fault all this happened the way it did, and he nearly destroyed the Earth by attempting to kill Hope Summers.]]
Summers]].
* In the ''ComicBook/CivilWarII'' In the epilogue issue ''The Oath'', Captain America gives a private one to the superhero community on being too busy fighting each other to protect the people (although it should be noted that this speech is given by a Cap who has been secretly 'reprogrammed' to believe he's been a HYDRA sleeper agent since childhood).
--> '''Steve:''' -->'''Steve:''' You call yourselves "heroes" while you waste most of your time infighting and settling petty grudges. You call yourselves leaders while you jockey around for authority and pecking rights, trying to make yourselves look good-while the truth is you've completely divorced yourself from the people you claim to protect. You have no understanding of what they want or need from you anymore.
* ComicBook/{{Daken}} Daken and ComicBook/{{X 23}} take turns delivering this to each other during their rampage through Colcord's base. Daken tries to call her out on her empathy for others, believing that her skills as a killer make her better than everyone around her, and that her heart only forces her to hold back. Laura flatly tells him that she doesn't fight because she has something to prove, but for something bigger than herself. She then turns this around on him, asking why he holds back by not taking the risk of allowing himself to actually care for anyone. Daken doesn't really have an answer.



** In the ''ComicBook/GuardianDevil'' storyline, ComicBook/{{Mysterio}}, after learning he's dying, launches an EvilPlan to ruin Daredevil's life and [[SuicideByCop goad him into killing him]]. Daredevil beats him down; and then after denying him what he wants, verbally tears both the plan and Mysterio to pieces. [[DespairEventHorizon Not disagreeing]], Beck then admits that he ''does'' have one more idea to steal -- [[ComicBook/KravensLastHunt Kraven the Hunter's]] -- and promptly [[AteHisGun shoots himself in the head]].

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** In the ''ComicBook/GuardianDevil'' storyline, ComicBook/{{Mysterio}}, Mysterio, after learning he's dying, launches an EvilPlan to ruin Daredevil's life and [[SuicideByCop goad him into killing him]]. Daredevil beats him down; and then after denying him what he wants, verbally tears both the plan and Mysterio to pieces. [[DespairEventHorizon Not disagreeing]], Beck then admits that he ''does'' have one more idea to steal -- [[ComicBook/KravensLastHunt Kraven the Hunter's]] -- and promptly [[AteHisGun shoots himself in the head]].



'''Daredevil:''' [[ShutUpHannibal ...was nothing more than B-Movie material]]. An amalgam of whorish, clichéd devices. The supernatural intruding on our world? Didn't you use the same schtick on J. Jonah Jameson years ago? And trying to drive me insane? Kingpin nearly did it once. But you're no Kingpin. You're not even close. You think you've spun some sort of grand swan-song epic? Think again. You've just told yet another tale of a so-called super-genius endeavoring to drive his arch-nemesis -- or, in this case, his ''adopted'' arch-nemesis -- insane. Your whole existence is counterfeit. You've never had an original thought in your life. You're a product of too many movies and too much TV. Regurgitating only what's gone before. You're a Human Xerox, at ''best''.

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'''Daredevil:''' [[ShutUpHannibal ...was nothing more than B-Movie material]]. An amalgam of whorish, clichéd devices. The supernatural intruding on our world? Didn't you use the same schtick on J. Jonah Jameson years ago? And trying to drive me insane? Kingpin nearly did it once. But you're no Kingpin. You're not even close. You think you've spun some sort of grand swan-song epic? Think again. You've just told yet another tale of a so-called super-genius endeavoring to drive his arch-nemesis -- or, in this case, his ''adopted'' ''[[RoguesGalleryTransplant adopted]]'' arch-nemesis -- insane. Your whole existence is counterfeit. You've never had an original thought in your life. You're a product of too many movies and too much TV. Regurgitating only what's gone before. You're a Human Xerox, at ''best''.



--->'''Deadpool:''' So you know you're in a comic book. Your ''own'' comic book, even. And you think that gives you special protection. What? Because you're popular? Well, I've never heard of you. Your name is [[CompositeCharacter Gwen]]? [[MistakenIdentity I guarantee anyone who doesn't read this thinks you're Gwen Stacy.]] Do you know who’s heard of me?! '''EVERYONE.''' I have had hundreds of issues. I don’t KNOW how many series. I guest-appear ''EVERYWHERE''. Comics. Video games. TV shows. '''AND SO MUCH MERCHANDISE'''. And never forget, [[Film/Deadpool2016 the Highest-Grossing R-Rated Film of all time.]] You, however, first appeared as a Backup in “Howard the Duck”. Because they weren’t sure if anyone would like you. You are the last person who can kill me.

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--->'''Deadpool:''' So you know you're in a comic book. Your ''own'' comic book, even. And you think that gives you special protection. What? Because you're popular? Well, I've never heard of you. Your name is [[CompositeCharacter Gwen]]? [[MistakenIdentity I guarantee anyone who doesn't read this thinks you're Gwen Stacy.]] Do you know who’s heard of me?! '''EVERYONE.''' I have had hundreds of issues. I don’t KNOW how many series. I guest-appear ''EVERYWHERE''. Comics. Video games. TV shows. '''AND SO MUCH MERCHANDISE'''. And never forget, [[Film/Deadpool2016 the Highest-Grossing R-Rated Film of all time.]] time]]. You, however, first appeared as a Backup in “Howard the Duck”. "ComicBook/HowardTheDuck". Because they weren’t weren't sure if anyone would like you. You are the last person who can kill me.



* ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' Issue 549 (October 2007): Sue Richards puts the Wizard in his place, culminating 45 years of [[TookALevelInBadass taking levels in badass]].
--> '''Sue Richards''': You're pathetic. One of the best minds on the planet and you waste it for years, doing magic tricks — then trying to best a man who'd never really harm you, despite your endless provocation. But that's the difference between my husband and me. He doesn't understand revenge. Me? I can't decide which of the many ways I can hurt you I'm going to use.
** Before that issue, Sue took Doctor Doom down in equally epic fashion in Creator/GrantMorrison's ''ComicBook/FantasticFour: 1234'' issue 4 (January 2002);
---> '''Sue Richards''': [[ShutUpHannibal Oh shut up and listen to someone else for once!]] Stop talking in that ridiculous way! What's your problem, Victor? What have we ever actually done to you to deserve this stupid waste of everyone's time? Are you listening to me? Sitting there with your stupid machines and your childish jealousy, when you should be curing cancer or taking your people to the stars! What's the point of talking to you? Would you like me to explain this in a language you understand? Try anything like this ever again and I'll put a thousand force field bubbles inside that mighty brain of yours and burst it from the inside. Toys. Honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself.

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* In ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' Issue 549 issue #549 (October 2007): 2007), Sue Richards puts the Wizard in his place, culminating 45 years of [[TookALevelInBadass taking levels in badass]].
--> '''Sue Richards''': -->'''Sue Richards:''' You're pathetic. One of the best minds on the planet and you waste it for years, doing magic tricks -- then trying to best a man who'd never really harm you, despite your endless provocation. But that's the difference between my husband and me. He doesn't understand revenge. Me? I can't decide which of the many ways I can hurt you I'm going to use.
** Before that issue, Sue took Doctor Doom down in equally epic fashion in Creator/GrantMorrison's ''ComicBook/FantasticFour: 1234'' issue 4 #4 (January 2002);
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---> '''Sue Richards''': Richards:''' [[ShutUpHannibal Oh shut up and listen to someone else for once!]] Stop talking in that ridiculous way! What's your problem, Victor? What have we ever actually done to you to deserve this stupid waste of everyone's time? Are you listening to me? Sitting there with your stupid machines and your childish jealousy, [[GreenEyedMonster jealousy]], when [[CutLexLuthorACheck you should be curing cancer or taking your people to the stars! stars]]! What's the point of talking to you? Would you like me to explain this in a language you understand? Try anything like this ever again and I'll put a thousand force field bubbles inside that mighty brain of yours and burst it from the inside. Toys. Honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself.



-->'''Scott:''' I guess if you want your armor, you can keep your armor. At least until I peel it off of you piece by piece by piece. Not that there was anyone inside that empty suit of armor. Oh, there may have been seventy or eighty kilograms of breathing, bleeding flesh housed inside--but certainly nothing I'd call human. You'd have to have a conscience, a soul to be a human being. And now I've saved the best for last.
-->'''Doom:''' No! Not the mask! [[BigNo NO!]]
-->'''Scott:''' Looky, looky! Imagine that. No scars at all. You think the world doesn't know you fix your face the instant you steal ultimate power? The Beyonder, the Life Force--all those fixed faces, all those mind transfers into new bodies and new faces. And yet every single time, you somehow end up scarred again afterwards. You know what I think, Doom? You scar your face yourself. For a man like you, it's much easier inflicting a fake imperfection on yourself than admitting to having a real one. It's not the ugly dead scar tissue of your face that isolated you from humanity, Doom. It's the ugly dead scar tissue of your soul. There's a word for people like you: sociopath. Someone utterly incapable of even conceiving--let alone comprehending--that other people are real. It's Planet Doom, population 1 -- with 7 billion people-shaped cardboard cutouts for you to fold, spindle, and mutilate at will. I've had the misfortune of meeting people convinced you're not a monster. That you're nuanced. Layered. Deep. Having some of the cell-mates I had would soon cure them of that view. Sociopaths mimic human virtues the way jackdaws mimic human voices. Your nuance is the solid gold toilet seat in Saddam's palace. Your sophistication is the Wagner phonograph playing in the background at the Wannsee conference. Your depth is the hopper capacity of Uday's and Qusay's wood chipper. Your boast that "Doom never lies" is always the first lie out of your mouth. Your ruritanian code of honor is as constant and real as a Potemkin village, only a pretense to be the man you know you're not.
-->'''Doom:''' [[WhatTheHellHero And how are you any different than I am...hero? You invade my country, you destroy my property, you assault my person with the goal of first maiming and crippling and then murdering me.]]
-->'''Scott:''' [[ShutUpHannibal I know one way I'm different--I know I'm not God and don't deserve to be.]]
-->'''Doom:''' [[BigNo Noooooo!]]
* A Villain to Villain example happened in [[Franchise/MarvelUniverse Marvel]] when the Cobra decided to break up his partnership with Mr. Hyde, after deciding that Hyde was the reason the two kept losing to heroes. When the Cobra escapes from Riker's Island, he refuses to bring Hyde along, despite Hyde's pleas. Cobra told his soon-to-be former partner off thus:

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-->'''Scott:''' I guess if you want your armor, you can keep your armor. At least until I peel it off of you piece by piece by piece. Not that there was anyone inside that empty suit of armor. Oh, there may have been seventy or eighty kilograms of breathing, bleeding flesh housed inside--but inside -- but certainly nothing I'd call human. You'd have to have a conscience, a soul to be a human being. And now I've saved the best for last.
-->'''Doom:'''
last.\\
'''Doom:'''
No! Not the mask! [[BigNo NO!]]
-->'''Scott:'''
NO!]]\\
'''Scott:'''
Looky, looky! Imagine that. No scars at all. You think the world doesn't know you fix your face the instant you steal ultimate power? The Beyonder, the Life Force--all Force -- all those fixed faces, all those mind transfers into new bodies and new faces. And yet every single time, you somehow end up scarred again afterwards. You know what I think, Doom? You scar your face yourself. For a man like you, it's much easier inflicting a fake imperfection on yourself than admitting to having a real one. It's not the ugly dead scar tissue of your face that isolated you from humanity, Doom. It's the ugly dead scar tissue of your soul. There's a word for people like you: sociopath. Someone utterly incapable of even conceiving--let conceiving -- let alone comprehending--that comprehending -- that other people are real. It's Planet Doom, population 1 -- with 7 billion people-shaped cardboard cutouts for you to fold, spindle, and mutilate at will. I've had the misfortune of meeting people convinced you're not a monster. That you're nuanced. Layered. Deep. Having some of the cell-mates I had would soon cure them of that view. Sociopaths mimic human virtues the way jackdaws mimic human voices. Your nuance is the solid gold toilet seat in Saddam's palace. Your sophistication is the Wagner phonograph playing in the background at the Wannsee conference. Your depth is the hopper capacity of Uday's and Qusay's wood chipper. Your boast that "Doom never lies" is always the first lie out of your mouth. Your ruritanian code of honor is as constant and real as a Potemkin village, only a pretense to be the man you know you're not.
-->'''Doom:'''
not.\\
'''Doom:'''
[[WhatTheHellHero And how are you any different than I am...am... hero? You invade my country, you destroy my property, you assault my person with the goal of first maiming and crippling and then murdering me.]]
-->'''Scott:'''
]]\\
'''Scott:'''
[[ShutUpHannibal I know one way I'm different--I different — I know I'm not God and don't deserve to be.]]
-->'''Doom:'''
]]\\
'''Doom:'''
[[BigNo Noooooo!]]
* A Villain to Villain villain-to-villain example happened in [[Franchise/MarvelUniverse Marvel]] happens when the Cobra decided decides to break up his partnership with Mr. Hyde, after deciding that Hyde was is the reason the two kept losing to heroes. When the Cobra escapes from Riker's Island, he refuses to bring Hyde along, despite Hyde's pleas. Cobra told his soon-to-be former partner off thus:



** This would come back to bite him. The Cobra and Mister Hyde were, up to that point, one of the longest villain partnerships in Marvel, but due to Hyde's insanity, the Cobra always had to watch his back. From this point on, the two would be [[ArchEnemy mortal enemies.]]

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** This would come back to bite him. The Cobra and Mister Hyde were, up to that point, one of the longest villain partnerships in Marvel, but due to Hyde's insanity, the Cobra always had to watch his back. From this point on, the two would be [[ArchEnemy mortal enemies.]]enemies]].



'''Thing:''' Actually punk, I've seen plenty like you before. Yer just like some prank phone caller or Internet troll. You'll say and do anything as long as no one can see ya. Sure, ya got a lotta power, but that ain't what matters. You got a problem with people? Then you get out and tell 'em to their faces, instead of attacking from a hiding place. No one respects power trips or bribes. Standin' by what ya say--that's where ya get respect.

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'''Thing:''' Actually punk, I've seen plenty like you before. Yer just like some prank phone caller or Internet troll. You'll say and do anything as long as no one can see ya. Sure, ya got a lotta power, but that ain't what matters. You got a problem with people? Then you get out and tell 'em to their faces, instead of attacking from a hiding place. No one respects power trips or bribes. Standin' by what ya say--that's say -- that's where ya get respect.



-->'''Spider-Man:''' Sorry, Melvin, but threatening kids - ''sick'' kids - on the ''holidays'' - makes YOU guys absolutely the lowest form of pond scum that I've ever had the misfortune to meet!
* ''ComicBook/TheMightyThor:'' After his resurrection following ''Civil War'', Thor is met by Iron Man, in full-on "do as the government says or we'll attack you" mode. Thor remains utterly quiet while Tony keeps doing this. Then, Tony asks him what he says. Thor gets out Mjolnir.
-->'''Thor:''' Yes. Things have changed. You have hunted down those we once fought beside and called comrades. Killed or imprisoned those who opposed you, regardless of their previous loyalties. Surely this would be offense enough, but you went further. Much further.
-->''(lightning starts striking around Tony)''
-->'''Thor:''' You took my genetic code and without my permission, without my knowledge, used it to create [[KillerRobot an abomination]] - an aberration - an ''insult'' - and ''this'' you told the world this was ''me''. You defiled my body, desecrated my trust, violated everything that I am. Is this how you define friendship? Is it? '''IS IT?'''
-->'''Iron Man:''' All right... I can see you're upset by this, but you don't know the full story here, Thor, you-
-->''([[TalkToTheFist Thor knocks Tony down, then sends him flying with Mjolnir.]])''
-->'''Iron Man:''' I hoped to do this the easy way, Thor, but you leave me no choice. I'll apologize later.
-->''(The two fight. Thor effortlessly defeats Tony without taking a scratch.)''
-->'''Iron Man:''' You... you've been working out.
-->'''Thor:''' No. There is only one difference. In ''this'' time and ''this'' place, I am no longer holding ''back''.
-->'''Iron Man:''' What are you-
-->''(Thor calls down the mother of all lightning bolts on Tony, completely disabling his armor. Thor tears the mask of the armor off, revealing Tony's face. He's terrified.)''
-->'''Thor:''' Give your orders and ultimatums to those who choose to obey, or are too cowardly to fight. ''Not'' to me. Or learn again the difference between a god of thunder and a man in a metal suit.

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-->'''Spider-Man:''' Sorry, Melvin, but threatening kids - -- ''sick'' kids - -- on the ''holidays'' - -- makes YOU guys absolutely the lowest form of pond scum that I've ever had the misfortune to meet!
* ''ComicBook/TheMightyThor:'' After his resurrection following ''Civil War'', ''ComicBook/CivilWar2006'', Thor is met by Iron Man, in full-on "do as the government says or we'll attack you" mode. Thor remains utterly quiet while Tony keeps doing this. Then, Tony asks him what he says. Thor gets out Mjolnir.
-->'''Thor:''' Yes. Things have changed. You have hunted down those we once fought beside and called comrades. Killed or imprisoned those who opposed you, regardless of their previous loyalties. Surely this would be offense enough, but you went further. Much further.
-->''(lightning
further. ''[lightning starts striking around Tony)''
-->'''Thor:'''
Tony]'' You took my genetic code and without my permission, without my knowledge, used it to create [[KillerRobot an abomination]] - -- an aberration - -- an ''insult'' - -- and ''this'' you told the world this was ''me''. You defiled my body, desecrated my trust, violated everything that I am. Is this how you define friendship? Is it? '''IS IT?'''
-->'''Iron
IT?'''\\
'''Iron
Man:''' All right... I can see you're upset by this, but you don't know the full story here, Thor, you-
-->''([[TalkToTheFist
you-- ''[[[TalkToTheFist Thor knocks Tony down, then sends him flying with Mjolnir.]])''
-->'''Iron Man:'''
Mjolnir]]]'' I hoped to do this the easy way, Thor, but you leave me no choice. I'll apologize later.
-->''(The
later. ''[the two fight. fight, and Thor effortlessly defeats Tony without taking a scratch.)''
-->'''Iron Man:'''
scratch]'' You... you've been working out.
-->'''Thor:'''
out.\\
'''Thor:'''
No. There is only one difference. In ''this'' time and ''this'' place, I am no longer holding ''back''.
-->'''Iron
''back''.\\
'''Iron
Man:''' What are you-
-->''(Thor
you--\\
''[Thor
calls down the mother of all lightning bolts on Tony, completely disabling his armor. Thor armor, then tears the mask of the armor off, revealing Tony's face. He's terrified.)''
-->'''Thor:'''
terrified face]''\\
'''Thor:'''
Give your orders and ultimatums to those who choose to obey, or are too cowardly to fight. ''Not'' to me. Or learn again the difference between a god of thunder and a man in a metal suit.



--> '''Titania:''' (Swinging and missing) When I get you I'll -- (gets punched in the face) Aggh!\\
'''Spider-Man:''' All you're going to get is frustrated ... and eventually thrashed!\\
'''Titania:''' No! It's not fair! (gets a two-fisted punch from above) UHH!\\

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--> '''Titania:''' (Swinging ''[swinging and missing) missing]'' When I get you I'll -- (gets I'll-- ''[gets punched in the face) face]'' Aggh!\\
'''Spider-Man:''' All you're going to get is frustrated ...frustrated... and eventually thrashed!\\
'''Titania:''' No! It's not fair! (gets ''[gets a two-fisted punch from above) above]'' UHH!\\



'''Spider-Man:''' (Bouncing off a wall to grab her by the leg) You ought to be happy, Cuddles! You aspired to be a bully, and man, you're a classic! (Throwing her ''through'' a wall to end the fight) You talk tough and nasty when you've got the upper hand, but when you're losing, well, that's when the whining little whimp-ette inside comes spilling out!

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'''Spider-Man:''' (Bouncing ''[bouncing off a wall to grab her by the leg) leg]'' You ought to be happy, Cuddles! You aspired to be a bully, and man, you're a classic! (Throwing ''[throwing her ''through'' a wall to end the fight) fight]'' You talk tough and nasty when you've got the upper hand, but when you're losing, well, that's when the whining little whimp-ette inside comes spilling out!



-->'''Hank:''' '''How dare you!''' (flips the table and begins beating down Tony) ''I'' discovered Pym particles. ''I'' took artificial intelligence to the next level. ''I'' founded the Avengers Academy! What have ''you'' ever done?! You were a lout and a cretin who made his fortune selling weapons to murderers! Your arrogance started [[ComicBook/CivilWar2006 two]] [[ComicBook/CivilWarII wars]] — [[ComicBook/SecretInvasion your incompetence]] put ''Norman Osborn'' [[ComicBook/DarkReign in power]]! And ''you'' try to lecture ''me?!'' Every day, I had to hold this monster inside me at bay — do you understand what he would do if I let him loose? He would incinerate the flesh of every man, woman and child on Earth and laugh about it! Every day I live with this, and I save the world a hundred times over! But I made '''''one''''' mistake — one mistake! Years ago! [[OnceDoneNeverForgotten And it's all any of you will ever remember me for — all you ever say about me!]] You think I can't hear the whispers?! The way you look at me when I walk into the room?
* In the climax of the first arc of {{ComicBook/Thunderbolts}}, Moonstone finally stops her [[ManipulativeBastard lying and manipulating]] by giving Baron Zemo a PunctuatedPounding complete with every reason why his scheme to TakeOverTheWorld is stupid, short-sighted, and egotistical - passing up a perfectly good opportunity to live in comfort as adored superheroes capable of pulling off years of subtler schemes.
-->'''Moonstone''': Let me ''explain'' something, Zemo. Let me tell you why [[TheStarscream I undermined your leadership at every turn.]] I've got a pretty simple philosophy of life. You want to hear it? It's this: [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Don't. Get. CAUGHT!]] Oh, I was stupid at first -- [[SmugSuper I thought my powers made me invincible]]... so I ended up getting a record, getting caught. I was willing to ride it out, serve my sentence and start anew -- [[ChronicVillainy but you press-ganged me into your scheme, and there went that]]. Still, it was a good scheme -- posing as heroes -- and we made it ''work.'' [[VillainWithGoodPublicity We had it all; public support, adulation - the perfect cover to pull any NUMBER of scams]] -- and [[NiceJobFixingItVillain you went and blew it over just ONE!]] ''Who CARES about [[TakeOverTheWorld ruling the world]]?! Who wants to do that much '''[[AndThenWhat WORK?!]]''''' [[PragmaticVillainy We could have run this con out for]] ''[[PragmaticVillainy years]]'' [[PragmaticVillainy before it got old!]] But no. [[VillainBall You couldn't be smart]] -- not when you could play Hitler like ''your idiot father!''
** During the team's first confrontation with Graviton, Moonstone manages to get him to leave by pointing out that, for all his powers, [[AndThenWhat he doesn't have a clear goal beyond beating up heroes.]] This causes him to leave and think about finding a goal. In a later story arc, he comes back; having used his powers to create his own nation, Sky Island, where he reigns supreme in exchange of offering his subjects the ability to fly, allowing him to get whatever he wants. After defeating and capturing the Thunderbolts -- with the intention to execute them -- he has Moonstone brought before him, and essentially gloats about his success in her face, [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty implying he might spare her if she becomes his.]] Moonstone's answer is to ''[[DefiantToTheEnd laugh in his face]]'', while delivering another speech nearly as spectacular as the one she delivered to Zemo;
-->'''Moonstone''': You're kidding. I knew you were pathetic, but this is too much. I stung your ego before -- so now you want validation? You want me to say you're a big, scary, powerful man? You're not. You're still floundering -- which is why you've assembled this collection of clichés. With losers and hooligans to worship you -- it's all you could think of!
** In the 2022 Thunderbolts run, in issue #3, Gutsen Glory gives a short but succinct speech to both Clint Barton and Monica Brown after hearing them argue over the recent debacle in the field by explaining that they are ''both'' terrible leaders from his perspective. He calls Clint out on how he has yet to provide the structure and discipline that a team leader needs to give, which is especially apparent since he's working with one of the sanest and most stable Thunderbolts teams yet, then calls Monica out on how she isn't doing her job as second-in-command either but just standing back and waiting for Clint to fail so she can mock and jeer him. He then finishes by declaring they're both acting like this team is just a "temp gig" and tells them to either get their acts together or get out of the team.

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-->'''Hank:''' '''How dare you!''' (flips ''[flips the table and begins beating down Tony) Tony]'' ''I'' discovered Pym particles. ''I'' took artificial intelligence to the next level. ''I'' founded the Avengers Academy! What have ''you'' ever done?! You were a lout and a cretin who made his fortune selling weapons to murderers! Your arrogance started [[ComicBook/CivilWar2006 two]] [[ComicBook/CivilWarII wars]] -- [[ComicBook/SecretInvasion your incompetence]] put ''Norman Osborn'' [[ComicBook/DarkReign in power]]! And ''you'' try to lecture ''me?!'' Every day, I had to hold this monster inside me at bay — do you understand what he would do if I let him loose? He would incinerate the flesh of every man, woman and child on Earth and laugh about it! Every day I live with this, and I save the world a hundred times over! But I made '''''one''''' mistake -- one mistake! Years ago! [[OnceDoneNeverForgotten And it's all any of you will ever remember me for -- all you ever say about me!]] You think I can't hear the whispers?! The way you look at me when I walk into the room?
* In the climax of the first arc of {{ComicBook/Thunderbolts}}, ''ComicBook/{{Thunderbolts}}'', Moonstone finally stops her [[ManipulativeBastard lying and manipulating]] by giving Baron Zemo a PunctuatedPounding complete with every reason why his scheme to TakeOverTheWorld is stupid, short-sighted, and egotistical - -- passing up a perfectly good opportunity to live in comfort as adored superheroes capable of pulling off years of subtler schemes.
-->'''Moonstone''': -->'''Moonstone:''' Let me ''explain'' something, Zemo. Let me tell you why [[TheStarscream I undermined your leadership at every turn.]] I've got a pretty simple philosophy of life. You want to hear it? It's this: [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Don't. Get. CAUGHT!]] Oh, I was stupid at first -- [[SmugSuper I thought my powers made me invincible]]... so I ended up getting a record, getting caught. I was willing to ride it out, serve my sentence and start anew -- [[ChronicVillainy but you press-ganged me into your scheme, and there went that]]. Still, it was a good scheme -- posing as heroes -- and we made it ''work.'' [[VillainWithGoodPublicity We had it all; public support, adulation - the perfect cover to pull any NUMBER of scams]] -- and [[NiceJobFixingItVillain you went and blew it over just ONE!]] ''Who CARES about [[TakeOverTheWorld ruling the world]]?! Who wants to do that much '''[[AndThenWhat WORK?!]]''''' [[PragmaticVillainy We could have run this con out for]] ''[[PragmaticVillainy years]]'' [[PragmaticVillainy before it got old!]] But no. [[VillainBall You couldn't be smart]] -- not when you could play Hitler like ''your idiot father!''
** During the team's first confrontation with Graviton, Moonstone manages to get him to leave by pointing out that, for all his powers, [[AndThenWhat he doesn't have a clear goal beyond beating up heroes.]] heroes]]. This causes him to leave and think about finding a goal. In a later story arc, he comes back; having used his powers to create his own nation, Sky Island, where he reigns supreme in exchange of offering his subjects the ability to fly, allowing him to get whatever he wants. After defeating and capturing the Thunderbolts -- with the intention to execute them -- he has Moonstone brought before him, and essentially gloats about his success in her face, [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty implying he might spare her if she becomes his.]] Moonstone's answer is to ''[[DefiantToTheEnd laugh in his face]]'', while delivering another speech nearly as spectacular as the one she delivered to Zemo;
-->'''Moonstone''': --->'''Moonstone:''' You're kidding. I knew you were pathetic, but this is too much. I stung your ego before -- so now you want validation? You want me to say you're a big, scary, powerful man? You're not. You're still floundering -- which is why you've assembled this collection of clichés. With losers and hooligans to worship you -- it's all you could think of!
** In the 2022 Thunderbolts ''Thunderbolts'' run, in issue #3, Gutsen Glory gives a short but succinct speech to both Clint Barton and Monica Brown after hearing them argue over the recent debacle in the field by explaining that they are ''both'' terrible leaders from his perspective. He calls Clint out on how he has yet to provide the structure and discipline that a team leader needs to give, which is especially apparent since he's working with one of the sanest and most stable Thunderbolts teams yet, then calls Monica out on how she isn't doing her job as second-in-command either but just standing back and waiting for Clint to fail so she can mock and jeer him. He then finishes by declaring they're both acting like this team is just a "temp gig" and tells them to either get their acts together or get out of the team.



--> '''Venom:''' We are trying to save an innocent. It is our mission in life, is it not?\\
'''Punisher:''' More [[SymbolSwearing €#?!#]], Venom? You've '''''slaughtered''''' numerous innocents. [[ArmorPiercingQuestion What about those guards at the Vault?]] You rationalize killing innocents to serve your own ends. You're nothing but a '''lunatic'''. We have ''nothing'' in common.

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--> '''Venom:''' -->'''Venom:''' We are trying to save an innocent. It is our mission in life, is it not?\\
'''Punisher:''' More [[SymbolSwearing €#?!#]], Venom? You've '''''slaughtered''''' numerous innocents. [[ArmorPiercingQuestion What about those guards at the Vault?]] You rationalize killing innocents to serve your own ends. You're nothing but a '''lunatic'''. We have ''nothing'' in common.common.
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** In the ''Guardian Devil'' storyline, ComicBook/{{Mysterio}}, after learning he's dying, launches an EvilPlan to ruin Daredevil's life and [[SuicideByCop goad him into killing him]]. Daredevil beats him down; and then after denying him what he wants, verbally tears both the plan and Mysterio to pieces. [[DespairEventHorizon Not disagreeing]], Beck then admits that he ''does'' have one more idea to steal -- [[ComicBook/KravensLastHunt Kraven the Hunter's]] -- and promptly [[AteHisGun shoots himself in the head]].

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** In the ''Guardian Devil'' ''ComicBook/GuardianDevil'' storyline, ComicBook/{{Mysterio}}, after learning he's dying, launches an EvilPlan to ruin Daredevil's life and [[SuicideByCop goad him into killing him]]. Daredevil beats him down; and then after denying him what he wants, verbally tears both the plan and Mysterio to pieces. [[DespairEventHorizon Not disagreeing]], Beck then admits that he ''does'' have one more idea to steal -- [[ComicBook/KravensLastHunt Kraven the Hunter's]] -- and promptly [[AteHisGun shoots himself in the head]].
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** In the ''Guardian Devil'' storyline, Mysterio, after learning he's dying, launches an EvilPlan to ruin Daredevil's life and [[SuicideByCop goad him into killing him]]. Daredevil beats him down; and then after denying him what he wants, verbally tears both the plan and Mysterio to pieces. [[DespairEventHorizon Not disagreeing]], Beck then admits that he ''does'' have one more idea to steal -- [[ComicBook/KravensLastHunt Kraven the Hunter's]] -- and promptly [[AteHisGun shoots himself in the head]].

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** In the ''Guardian Devil'' storyline, Mysterio, ComicBook/{{Mysterio}}, after learning he's dying, launches an EvilPlan to ruin Daredevil's life and [[SuicideByCop goad him into killing him]]. Daredevil beats him down; and then after denying him what he wants, verbally tears both the plan and Mysterio to pieces. [[DespairEventHorizon Not disagreeing]], Beck then admits that he ''does'' have one more idea to steal -- [[ComicBook/KravensLastHunt Kraven the Hunter's]] -- and promptly [[AteHisGun shoots himself in the head]].
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** In ''[[ComicBook/AvengersTheInitiative Avengers: The Initiative]]'' #3, when Komodo has Comicbook/SpiderMan pinned down with a device to remove his powers just ready to stick into him and Spidey cracks a joke about the situation, Komodo doesn't expect that her snide retort is going to lead to a full-scale demolition of her in response:

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** In ''[[ComicBook/AvengersTheInitiative Avengers: The Initiative]]'' #3, when Komodo has Comicbook/SpiderMan ComicBook/SpiderMan pinned down with a device to remove his powers just ready to stick into him and Spidey cracks a joke about the situation, Komodo doesn't expect that her snide retort is going to lead to a full-scale demolition of her in response:



*** Komodo finds this speech so bad that once he's escaped, Comicbook/WarMachine later finds her [[DespairEventHorizon crying inconsolably and begging not to be depowered]]. Spider-Man thought Komodo was given her powers by the government. In fact, Komodo's powers were the result of months of research following years of study, and allowed her to regrow legs she lost in a car accident so severe it took paramedics two hours to cut her out of the wreck. [[InnocentlyInsensitive The threat hit harder and deeper than Spidey probably intended]].

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*** Komodo finds this speech so bad that once he's escaped, Comicbook/WarMachine ComicBook/WarMachine later finds her [[DespairEventHorizon crying inconsolably and begging not to be depowered]]. Spider-Man thought Komodo was given her powers by the government. In fact, Komodo's powers were the result of months of research following years of study, and allowed her to regrow legs she lost in a car accident so severe it took paramedics two hours to cut her out of the wreck. [[InnocentlyInsensitive The threat hit harder and deeper than Spidey probably intended]].



* ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} gives the Comicbook/XMen, including himself, one in ''[=AvX=] Consequences'' #1 by admitting that they totally failed in keeping Xavier's dream alive and that [[spoiler:he died without seeing that dream come true.]]
** Followed an issue later by Comicbook/{{Cyclops}} [[spoiler: now incarcerated for his actions during the event]] giving one to Logan because [[spoiler: it was all his fault all this happened the way it did, and he nearly destroyed the Earth by attempting to kill Hope Summers.]]

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* ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} gives the Comicbook/XMen, ComicBook/XMen, including himself, one in ''[=AvX=] Consequences'' #1 by admitting that they totally failed in keeping Xavier's dream alive and that [[spoiler:he died without seeing that dream come true.]]
** Followed an issue later by Comicbook/{{Cyclops}} ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[spoiler: now incarcerated for his actions during the event]] giving one to Logan because [[spoiler: it was all his fault all this happened the way it did, and he nearly destroyed the Earth by attempting to kill Hope Summers.]]



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* ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}'':''ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}'':



** Deadpool delivers a short, yet effective one before [[spoiler: offing Comicbook/ThePunisher by making him shoot himself in the head with one of Puppet Master's dolls]] in ''ComicBook/DeadpoolKillsTheMarvelUniverse''.

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** Deadpool delivers a short, yet effective one before [[spoiler: offing Comicbook/ThePunisher ComicBook/ThePunisher by making him shoot himself in the head with one of Puppet Master's dolls]] in ''ComicBook/DeadpoolKillsTheMarvelUniverse''.

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* The ''Guardian Devil'' storyline in ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}''. Mysterio, after learning he's dying, launches an EvilPlan to ruin Daredevil's life and [[SuicideByCop goad him into killing him]]. Daredevil beats him down; and then after denying him what he wants, verbally tears both the plan and Mysterio to pieces.
-->'''Mysterio:''' D... Do it, hero... K... Kill me.\\

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* The ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}'':
** In the
''Guardian Devil'' storyline in ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}''. storyline, Mysterio, after learning he's dying, launches an EvilPlan to ruin Daredevil's life and [[SuicideByCop goad him into killing him]]. Daredevil beats him down; and then after denying him what he wants, verbally tears both the plan and Mysterio to pieces.
-->'''Mysterio:'''
pieces. [[DespairEventHorizon Not disagreeing]], Beck then admits that he ''does'' have one more idea to steal -- [[ComicBook/KravensLastHunt Kraven the Hunter's]] -- and promptly [[AteHisGun shoots himself in the head]].
--->'''Mysterio:'''
D... Do it, hero... K... Kill me.\\



'''Daredevil:''' [[ShutUpHannibal ...was nothing more than B-Movie material]]. An amalgam of whorish, clichéd devices. The supernatural intruding on our world? Didn't you use the same schtick on J. Jonah Jameson years ago? And trying to drive me insane? Kingpin nearly did it once. But you're no Kingpin. You're not even close. You think you've spun some sort of grand swan-song epic? Think again. You've just told yet another tale of a so-called super-genius endeavoring to drive his arch-nemesis -- or, in this case, his ''adopted'' arch-nemesis -- insane. Your whole existence is counterfeit. You've never had an original thought in your life. You're a product of too many movies and too much [=TV=]. Regurgitating only what's gone before. You're a Human Xerox, at ''best''.
** [[DespairEventHorizon Not disagreeing]], Beck then admits that he ''does'' have one more idea to steal -- [[ComicBook/KravensLastHunt Kraven the Hunter's]] -- and promptly [[AteHisGun shoots himself in the head]].
* Daredevil delivers another one in ''Daredevil #10'' to Rachel Cole (as well as anyone who believes that TrueArtIsAngsty).
--> '''Cole:''' You know what gives me the strength? [[DeathByOriginStory The loss.]] We're alike that way, I imagine. Admit it: Nobody who's a stranger to that particular pain could ever be as driven as us.\\
'''Daredevil:''' '''Never''' - ''[throws his staff at her face, purposefully missing it by mere millimeters]'' - don't you ''ever'' say that to me ever again. That is a repellent statement. It's a vomitous insult to every cop [=-=] every fireman [=-=] every soldier alive who steps up to fight for those who can't! [[SincerityMode I am sorry for your loss!]] But if you genuinely believe that only the death of a loved one can motivate a human being to take up a cause... then get your pathetic, cynical [[PrecisionFStrike ass]] out of my way so I can do my job!
* Daredevil delivers a truly epic one to Bullseye at the end of the ''Hardcore'' story arc after he pushes Matt to his RageBreakingPoint by targeting his girlfriend Milla, all while giving him a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown.
-->'''Daredevil''': I went looking for you, Lester. Did you know that? While back--I decided I was going to '''find''' you and '''kill''' you in your sleep. I was going to kill you and no one would ever know I did it. And in looking for you, I finally found out all about the big mystery that is you. Your secret, secret origin. And I know why it's a secret. It's pathetic!! I know about your '''prostitute''' of a mommy and how you don't even know '''who''' your daddy is--I know what happened to you in high school--'''I know!!''' And after finding out your entire pathetic, uninteresting story--I know why--I know why you keep coming around here, Lester!! You keep coming around here because you want '''me''' to put you out of your misery! Because you don't have the guts to do it '''yourself!!''' But I'm '''not''' going to '''do''' it!! You '''hear''' me?!! [[ThouShaltNotKill I'm not getting sucked into your nightmare!!]] Because I just don't '''care!!''' You here me, Lester, I don't '''care''' about you!! No one cares! You're an animal! Your mommy doesn't care. Your daddy '''never''' cared!!! No one cares if you live or die!! You mean nothing!! You '''are''' nothing! What is '''this?''' Huh? What is this, a tattoo on your head? You psycho!! '''What is this supposed to be? Your logo? Your super cool bad ass logo?'''\\
'''Bullseye''': It's your--\\
'''Daredevil''': '''Shut up, animal!!!''' You want my attention--I'll give you my attention. I'll give you some meaning. '''I'LL GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT!! [[AndThisIsFor THIS CIRCLE...IS FOR ELEKTRA!!! And this circle...is for Karen!!!]] And this center point right here...is for when you finally realize that no one cares!! That I don't care about you!! That Kingpin USED you!! That you serve no purpose in this world!! That you mean NOTHING!! And when you FINALLY realize how pathetic and disgusting you REALLY are...And you FINALLY have the GUTS to do what you are begging ME to do FOR you--WHEN YOU FINALLY HAVE THE GUTS TO END YOUR MISERABLE EXISTENCE...!! HERE!! AIM TRUE.''' Aim to kill.

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'''Daredevil:''' [[ShutUpHannibal ...was nothing more than B-Movie material]]. An amalgam of whorish, clichéd devices. The supernatural intruding on our world? Didn't you use the same schtick on J. Jonah Jameson years ago? And trying to drive me insane? Kingpin nearly did it once. But you're no Kingpin. You're not even close. You think you've spun some sort of grand swan-song epic? Think again. You've just told yet another tale of a so-called super-genius endeavoring to drive his arch-nemesis -- or, in this case, his ''adopted'' arch-nemesis -- insane. Your whole existence is counterfeit. You've never had an original thought in your life. You're a product of too many movies and too much [=TV=].TV. Regurgitating only what's gone before. You're a Human Xerox, at ''best''.
** [[DespairEventHorizon Not disagreeing]], Beck then admits that he ''does'' have one more idea to steal -- [[ComicBook/KravensLastHunt Kraven the Hunter's]] -- and promptly [[AteHisGun shoots himself in the head]].
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Daredevil delivers another one in ''Daredevil #10'' issue #11 of ''ComicBook/DaredevilMarkWaid'' to Rachel Cole (as well as anyone who believes that TrueArtIsAngsty).
--> '''Cole:''' --->'''Cole:''' You know what gives me the strength? [[DeathByOriginStory The loss.]] loss]]. We're alike that way, I imagine. Admit it: Nobody who's nobody's who a stranger to that particular pain could ever be as driven as us.\\
'''Daredevil:''' '''Never''' - -- ''[throws his staff at her face, purposefully missing it by mere millimeters]'' - ''millimeters'']'' -- don't you ''ever'' say that to me ever again. That is a repellent statement. It's a vomitous insult to every cop [=-=] -- every fireman [=-=] -- every soldier alive who steps up to fight for those who can't! [[SincerityMode I am sorry for your loss!]] But if you genuinely believe that only the death of a loved one can motivate a human being to take up a cause... then get your pathetic, cynical [[PrecisionFStrike ass]] out of my way so I can do my job!
* ** Daredevil delivers a truly epic one to Bullseye at the end of the ''Hardcore'' story arc after he pushes Matt to his RageBreakingPoint by targeting his girlfriend Milla, all while giving him a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown.
-->'''Daredevil''': --->'''Daredevil:''' I went looking for you, Lester. Did you know that? While back--I back -- I decided I was going to '''find''' you and '''kill''' you in your sleep. I was going to kill you and no one would ever know I did it. And in looking for you, I finally found out all about the big mystery that is you. Your secret, secret origin. And I know why it's a secret. It's pathetic!! I know about your '''prostitute''' of a mommy and how you don't even know '''who''' your daddy is--I is -- I know what happened to you in high school--'''I school -- '''I know!!''' And after finding out your entire pathetic, uninteresting story--I story -- I know why--I why -- I know why you keep coming around here, Lester!! You keep coming around here because you want '''me''' to put you out of your misery! Because you don't have the guts to do it '''yourself!!''' But I'm '''not''' going to '''do''' it!! You '''hear''' me?!! [[ThouShaltNotKill I'm not getting sucked into your nightmare!!]] Because I just don't '''care!!''' You here me, Lester, I don't '''care''' about you!! No one cares! You're an animal! Your mommy doesn't care. Your daddy '''never''' cared!!! No one cares if you live or die!! You mean nothing!! You '''are''' nothing! What is '''this?''' Huh? What is this, a tattoo on your head? You psycho!! '''What is this supposed to be? Your logo? Your super cool bad ass logo?'''\\
'''Bullseye''': '''Bullseye:''' It's your--\\
'''Daredevil''': '''Daredevil:''' '''Shut up, animal!!!''' You want my attention--I'll attention -- I'll give you my attention. I'll give you some meaning. '''I'LL GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT!! [[AndThisIsFor THIS CIRCLE... IS FOR ELEKTRA!!! And this circle...circle... is for Karen!!!]] And this center point right here...is for when you finally realize that no one cares!! That I don't care about you!! That Kingpin USED you!! That you serve no purpose in this world!! That you mean NOTHING!! And when you FINALLY realize how pathetic and disgusting you REALLY are... And you FINALLY have the GUTS to do what you are begging ME to do FOR you--WHEN you -- WHEN YOU FINALLY HAVE THE GUTS TO END YOUR MISERABLE EXISTENCE...!! HERE!! AIM TRUE.''' Aim to kill.



-->'''Deadpool:''' Today...after years of being a hard-ass killer of criminals...i got '''pwned''' by a cabbagehead doll. Thanks for nothing, righteous fury and vengeance. '''BANG!'''

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-->'''Deadpool:''' --->'''Deadpool:''' Today...after years of being a hard-ass killer of criminals...i got '''pwned''' by a cabbagehead doll. Thanks for nothing, righteous fury and vengeance. '''BANG!'''

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** In ''Avengers Annual #10'', when Creator/ChrisClaremont [[{{Retcon}} undid the hideous damage]] done to ComicBook/CarolDanvers in ''Avengers #200'', he has her deliver a furious WhatTheHellHero to the Avengers for allowing her to be taken away and brainwashed after she'd been raped and [[ItMakesSenseInContext impregnated with an extradimensional being by her rapist.]] It can be fully seen [[http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/779496.html#cutid1 here.]]
---> '''Carol''': Wanda, I never wanted to see you -- any of you -- again. I ''hated'' you. Because when I needed you most, you ''betrayed'' me. (''[[BerserkerTears starts to tear up in quiet anger]]'') There I was, pregnant by an unknown source, [[ExpressDelivery running through a nine-month term literally overnight]] -- confused, shaken to the core of my being as a person. A person, a woman. I turned to you for help, and I got jokes. ComicBook/TheWasp thought it was great and the Beast offered to play teddy bear. Your concerns were for the baby, not for [[ChildByRape how it came to be]] -- nor of the cost to me of that conception. You took everything Marcus said at face value. You didn't question, you didn't doubt. You simply let me go with a wave and a bouncy ''bon voyage''. That was your mistake for which I paid the price. ''My'' mistake was trusting you.

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** In ''Avengers Annual #10'', when Creator/ChrisClaremont [[{{Retcon}} undid the hideous damage]] done to ComicBook/CarolDanvers in ''Avengers #200'', he has her deliver a furious WhatTheHellHero to the Avengers for allowing her to be taken away and brainwashed after she'd been raped and [[ItMakesSenseInContext raped and impregnated with an extradimensional being being]] by her rapist.]] It rapist, Marcus. The section of the story containing it can be fully seen [[http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/779496.html#cutid1 here.]]
---> '''Carol''': Wanda, I never wanted to see you -- any of you -- again. I ''hated'' you. Because when I needed you most, you ''betrayed'' me. (''[[BerserkerTears starts to tear tears up in quiet anger]]'') There I was, pregnant by an unknown source, [[ExpressDelivery running through a nine-month term literally overnight]] -- confused, shaken to the core of my being as a person. A person, a woman. I turned to you for help, and I got jokes. ComicBook/TheWasp thought it was great and the Beast offered to play teddy bear. Your concerns were for the baby, not for [[ChildByRape how it came to be]] -- nor of the cost to me of that conception. You took everything Marcus [[ManipulativeBastard Marcus]] said at face value. You didn't question, you didn't doubt. You simply let me go with a wave and a bouncy ''bon voyage''. That was your mistake for which I paid the price. ''My'' mistake was trusting you.



---->'''Iron Man''': Is there anything we can do to help ease your pain?
---->'''Carol''' ([[DeskSweepOfRage sweeping the end table in a rage]]): ''Didn't you do enough to '''cause''' it?!''

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---->'''Iron Man''': We're very sorry, Carol. [[DramaticallyMissingThePoint You two made a wonderful couple, we hoped you'd be happy together]]. Is there anything we can do to help ease your pain?
---->'''Carol''' ([[DeskSweepOfRage ---->'''Carol''': (''[[DeskSweepOfRage sweeping the end table in a rage]]): ''Didn't you do enough to '''cause''' it?!''rage]]'') DIDN'T YOU DO ENOUGH TO '''CAUSE''' IT?!
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---> '''Carol''': Wanda, I never wanted to see you -- any of you -- again. I ''hated'' you. Because when I needed you most, you ''betrayed'' me. (''[[BerserkerTears starts to tear up in quiet anger]]'') That was your mistake for which I paid the price. There I was, pregnant by an unknown source, [[ExpressDelivery running through a nine-month term literally overnight]] -- confused, shaken to the core of my being as a person. A person, a woman. I turned to you for help, and I got jokes. ComicBook/TheWasp thought it was great and the Beast offered to play teddy bear. Your concerns were for the baby, not for [[ChildByRape how it came to be]] -- nor of the cost to me of that conception. You took everything Marcus said at face value. You didn't question, you didn't doubt. You simply let me go with a wave and a bouncy ''bon voyage''. That was your mistake for which I paid the price. ''My'' mistake was trusting you.

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---> '''Carol''': Wanda, I never wanted to see you -- any of you -- again. I ''hated'' you. Because when I needed you most, you ''betrayed'' me. (''[[BerserkerTears starts to tear up in quiet anger]]'') That was your mistake for which I paid the price. There I was, pregnant by an unknown source, [[ExpressDelivery running through a nine-month term literally overnight]] -- confused, shaken to the core of my being as a person. A person, a woman. I turned to you for help, and I got jokes. ComicBook/TheWasp thought it was great and the Beast offered to play teddy bear. Your concerns were for the baby, not for [[ChildByRape how it came to be]] -- nor of the cost to me of that conception. You took everything Marcus said at face value. You didn't question, you didn't doubt. You simply let me go with a wave and a bouncy ''bon voyage''. That was your mistake for which I paid the price. ''My'' mistake was trusting you.
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---> '''Carol''': Wanda, I never wanted to see you -- any of you -- again. I ''hated'' you. Because when I needed you most, you betrayed me. (''[[BerserkerTears starts to tear up in quiet anger]]'') That was your mistake for which I paid the price. There I was, pregnant by an unknown source, [[ExpressDelivery running through a nine-month term literally overnight]] -- confused, shaken to the core of my being as a person. A person, a woman. I turned to you for help, and I got jokes. ComicBook/TheWasp thought it was great and the Beast offered to play teddy bear. Your concerns were for the baby, not for [[ChildByRape how it came to be]] -- nor of the cost to me of that conception. You took everything Marcus said at face value. You didn't question, you didn't doubt. You simply let me go with a wave and a bouncy ''bon voyage''. That was your mistake for which I paid the price. ''My'' mistake was trusting you.

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---> '''Carol''': Wanda, I never wanted to see you -- any of you -- again. I ''hated'' you. Because when I needed you most, you betrayed ''betrayed'' me. (''[[BerserkerTears starts to tear up in quiet anger]]'') That was your mistake for which I paid the price. There I was, pregnant by an unknown source, [[ExpressDelivery running through a nine-month term literally overnight]] -- confused, shaken to the core of my being as a person. A person, a woman. I turned to you for help, and I got jokes. ComicBook/TheWasp thought it was great and the Beast offered to play teddy bear. Your concerns were for the baby, not for [[ChildByRape how it came to be]] -- nor of the cost to me of that conception. You took everything Marcus said at face value. You didn't question, you didn't doubt. You simply let me go with a wave and a bouncy ''bon voyage''. That was your mistake for which I paid the price. ''My'' mistake was trusting you.
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---> '''Carol''': Wanda, I never wanted to see you -- any of you -- again. I ''hated'' you. Because when I needed you most, you betrayed me. (''[[BerserkerTears starts to tear up in quiet anger]]'') That was your mistake for which I paid the price. There I was, pregnant by an unknown source, running through a nine-month term literally overnight -- confused, shaken to the core of my being as a person. A person, a woman. I turned to you for help, and I got jokes. ComicBook/TheWasp thought it was great and the Beast offered to play teddy bear. Your concerns were for the baby, not for [[ChildByRape how it came to be]] -- nor of the cost to me of that conception. You took everything Marcus said at face value. You didn't question, you didn't doubt. You simply let me go with a wave and a bouncy ''bon voyage''. That was your mistake for which I paid the price. ''My'' mistake was trusting you.

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---> '''Carol''': Wanda, I never wanted to see you -- any of you -- again. I ''hated'' you. Because when I needed you most, you betrayed me. (''[[BerserkerTears starts to tear up in quiet anger]]'') That was your mistake for which I paid the price. There I was, pregnant by an unknown source, [[ExpressDelivery running through a nine-month term literally overnight overnight]] -- confused, shaken to the core of my being as a person. A person, a woman. I turned to you for help, and I got jokes. ComicBook/TheWasp thought it was great and the Beast offered to play teddy bear. Your concerns were for the baby, not for [[ChildByRape how it came to be]] -- nor of the cost to me of that conception. You took everything Marcus said at face value. You didn't question, you didn't doubt. You simply let me go with a wave and a bouncy ''bon voyage''. That was your mistake for which I paid the price. ''My'' mistake was trusting you.
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--> '''Vision:''' I have empathy for all your life struggles. And I have empathy for the manipulations that you may have endured. But what I do not have compassion or understanding for is the idea that, when you were at your lowest, you chose out of the millions of choices and variables in front of you...You chose to overpower me and use my body as a weapon against my friends and my home. That I cannot forgive.

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--> ---> '''Vision:''' I have empathy for all your life struggles. And I have empathy for the manipulations that you may have endured. But what I do not have compassion or understanding for is the idea that, when you were at your lowest, you chose out of the millions of choices and variables in front of you...You chose to overpower me and use my body as a weapon against my friends and my home. That I cannot forgive.



-->'''Komodo:''' (''prepares to stab him with the device'') Don't worry, Commander! He's mine!
-->'''Spider-Man:''' Really? [[TheGadfly But Valentine's Day was]] ''[[TheGadfly months]]'' [[TheGadfly ago!]]
-->'''Komodo:''' Always with the jokes, huh?
-->'''Spider-Man:''' Fine. You want me to be serious? I can do serious. You've already lost.
-->'''Komodo:''' No way. I've only got to prick you once, and-
-->'''Spider-Man:''' Not gonna happen. You know why? Because I'm Spider-Man. And ''you're'' a dollar store version of the Lizard. See, I beat down guys like Doc Ock, Sandman and Venom all the time. And you're just not in their league. Oh, I'm going to win. And after you've crawled back home with your tail between your legs, you know what happens then? Then your buddies are going to stick one of those things into you!
-->'''Komodo:''' What? [[LittleNo No...!]]
-->'''Spider-Man:''' Ah -- you blinked. ''(he fires a web shot into her face so hard it sends her reeling)'' Game to Spidey. ''(hurls Komodo off of him with a kick)'' Let me tell you, you Initiative guys, you're real pieces of work!

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-->'''Komodo:''' --->'''Komodo:''' (''prepares to stab him with the device'') Don't worry, Commander! He's mine!
-->'''Spider-Man:''' --->'''Spider-Man:''' Really? [[TheGadfly But Valentine's Day was]] ''[[TheGadfly months]]'' [[TheGadfly ago!]]
-->'''Komodo:''' --->'''Komodo:''' Always with the jokes, huh?
-->'''Spider-Man:''' --->'''Spider-Man:''' Fine. You want me to be serious? I can do serious. You've already lost.
-->'''Komodo:''' --->'''Komodo:''' No way. I've only got to prick you once, and-
-->'''Spider-Man:''' --->'''Spider-Man:''' Not gonna happen. You know why? Because I'm Spider-Man. And ''you're'' a dollar store version of the Lizard. See, I beat down guys like Doc Ock, Sandman and Venom all the time. And you're just not in their league. Oh, I'm going to win. And after you've crawled back home with your tail between your legs, you know what happens then? Then your buddies are going to stick one of those things into you!
-->'''Komodo:''' --->'''Komodo:''' What? [[LittleNo No...!]]
-->'''Spider-Man:''' --->'''Spider-Man:''' Ah -- you blinked. ''(he fires a web shot into her face so hard it sends her reeling)'' Game to Spidey. ''(hurls Komodo off of him with a kick)'' Let me tell you, you Initiative guys, you're real pieces of work!
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** In ''ComicBook/AvengersTheChildrensCrusade, Wiccan gives both the regular Avengers and the X-Men an earful about how they've been treating Wanda as an enemy when it's revealed that she was possessed and mind controlled into carrying out the events of ''ComicBook/HouseOfM'':

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** In ''ComicBook/AvengersTheChildrensCrusade, ''ComicBook/AvengersTheChildrensCrusade'', Wiccan gives both the regular Avengers and the X-Men an earful about how they've been treating Wanda as an enemy when it's revealed that she was possessed and mind controlled into carrying out the events of ''ComicBook/HouseOfM'':

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* In the ''Avengers'' series ''ComicBook/TheKangDynasty'', Firebird gave one of those to Thor, who suddenly started to view the mortal lives as short and meaningless in response to being at the epicenter of the mass death in Washington D.C. She told him that, even if she's immortal as well, she would ''always'' care about the mortals. That her god notices even the death of a sparrow, and that's her role model, not Thor.
* In ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'' #0, ComicBook/TheVision delivers one to the ComicBook/ScarletWitch, when even he can't overlook her actions anymore

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* ** In the ''Avengers'' series ''ComicBook/TheKangDynasty'', Firebird gave one of those to Thor, who suddenly started to view the mortal lives as short and meaningless in response to being at the epicenter of the mass death in Washington D.C. She told him that, even if she's immortal as well, she would ''always'' care about the mortals. That her god notices even the death of a sparrow, and that's her role model, not Thor.
* ** In ''ComicBook/AvengersTheChildrensCrusade, Wiccan gives both the regular Avengers and the X-Men an earful about how they've been treating Wanda as an enemy when it's revealed that she was possessed and mind controlled into carrying out the events of ''ComicBook/HouseOfM'':
--->'''Scott:''' So, what am I supposed to do, Speed? Welcome Wanda back and say, "It's okay. I know you didn't mean it. You can be an Avenger again, and we'll just pretend you didn't destroy millions of lives."
--->'''Wiccan:''' [[BluntYes Yes.]] After all, ''Magneto'''s killed untold thousands... and you made him an X-Man. Miss Frost was the queen of the Hellfire Club--and a ''murderer''. Rogue was a ''terrorist'' for the Brotherhood of Mutants. Gambit was a member of the Thieves' Guild. And Wonder Man, Ant-Man, Hawkeye, Quicksilver, and the Vision all started out on the wrong side of the law... but I personally can't imagine the Avengers ''without'' them. And how many times has one of you been possessed by an evil spirit... or mind-controlled and forced to do things you would never do—to hurt people--to ''kill'' people--even people you loved? I'm not saying you should pretend it never happened. But I do think you should look at the whole picture. Whatever her crimes, Wanda Maximoff has saved lives--and saved the world--more times than we probably even know. She has proven herself again and again to be a ''hero''. And what happened to her is bound to happen to every single one of us someday, if it hasn't happened already. The question is, [[ArmorPiercingQuestion how do you want to be treated when it happens to]] ''[[ArmorPiercingQuestion you?]]''
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In ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'' #0, ComicBook/TheVision delivers one to the ComicBook/ScarletWitch, when even he can't overlook her actions anymore



* In ''[[ComicBook/AvengersTheInitiative Avengers: The Initiative]]'' #3, when Komodo has Comicbook/SpiderMan pinned down with a device to remove his powers just ready to stick into him and Spidey cracks a joke about the situation, Komodo doesn't expect that her snide retort is going to lead to a full-scale demolition of her in response:

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* ** In ''[[ComicBook/AvengersTheInitiative Avengers: The Initiative]]'' #3, when Komodo has Comicbook/SpiderMan pinned down with a device to remove his powers just ready to stick into him and Spidey cracks a joke about the situation, Komodo doesn't expect that her snide retort is going to lead to a full-scale demolition of her in response:



** Komodo finds this speech so bad that once he's escaped, Comicbook/WarMachine later finds her [[DespairEventHorizon crying inconsolably and begging not to be depowered]]. Spider-Man thought Komodo was given her powers by the government. In fact, Komodo's powers were the result of months of research following years of study, and allowed her to regrow legs she lost in a car accident so severe it took paramedics two hours to cut her out of the wreck. [[InnocentlyInsensitive The threat hit harder and deeper than Spidey probably intended]].

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** *** Komodo finds this speech so bad that once he's escaped, Comicbook/WarMachine later finds her [[DespairEventHorizon crying inconsolably and begging not to be depowered]]. Spider-Man thought Komodo was given her powers by the government. In fact, Komodo's powers were the result of months of research following years of study, and allowed her to regrow legs she lost in a car accident so severe it took paramedics two hours to cut her out of the wreck. [[InnocentlyInsensitive The threat hit harder and deeper than Spidey probably intended]].
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-->'''Hank:''' '''How dare you!''' (flips the table and begins beating down Tony) ''I'' discovered Pym particles. ''I'' took artificial intelligence to the next level. ''I'' founded the Avengers Academy! What have ''you'' ever done?! You were a lout and a cretin who made his fortune selling weapons to murderers! Your arrogance started [[ComicBook/CivilWar two]] [[ComicBook/CivilWarII wars]] — [[ComicBook/SecretInvasion your incompetence]] put ''Norman Osborn'' [[ComicBook/DarkReign in power]]! And ''you'' try to lecture ''me?!'' Every day, I had to hold this monster inside me at bay — do you understand what he would do if I let him loose? He would incinerate the flesh of every man, woman and child on Earth and laugh about it! Every day I live with this, and I save the world a hundred times over! But I made '''''one''''' mistake — one mistake! Years ago! [[OnceDoneNeverForgotten And it's all any of you will ever remember me for — all you ever say about me!]] You think I can't hear the whispers?! The way you look at me when I walk into the room?

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-->'''Hank:''' '''How dare you!''' (flips the table and begins beating down Tony) ''I'' discovered Pym particles. ''I'' took artificial intelligence to the next level. ''I'' founded the Avengers Academy! What have ''you'' ever done?! You were a lout and a cretin who made his fortune selling weapons to murderers! Your arrogance started [[ComicBook/CivilWar [[ComicBook/CivilWar2006 two]] [[ComicBook/CivilWarII wars]] — [[ComicBook/SecretInvasion your incompetence]] put ''Norman Osborn'' [[ComicBook/DarkReign in power]]! And ''you'' try to lecture ''me?!'' Every day, I had to hold this monster inside me at bay — do you understand what he would do if I let him loose? He would incinerate the flesh of every man, woman and child on Earth and laugh about it! Every day I live with this, and I save the world a hundred times over! But I made '''''one''''' mistake — one mistake! Years ago! [[OnceDoneNeverForgotten And it's all any of you will ever remember me for — all you ever say about me!]] You think I can't hear the whispers?! The way you look at me when I walk into the room?
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