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* The 2018 concert has Jesus hugging Judas tight just before he's arrested. The two men have to be physically pulled apart when the guards come.
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* The 2018 concert has Jesus hugging Judas tight just before he's arrested. The two men have to be physically pulled apart when the guards come.come.
* In the 2018 live television concert, Judas breaks down weeping during his reprise of "I Don't Know How to Love Him."
* In the 2018 live television concert, Judas breaks down weeping during his reprise of "I Don't Know How to Love Him."
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--> '''Pilate''': ''Don't'' let me stop your great self-destruction! ''Die'' if you want to!
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--> '''Pilate''': ''Don't'' let me stop your great self-destruction! ''Die'' if you want to!to!
* The 2018 concert has Jesus hugging Judas tight just before he's arrested. The two men have to be physically pulled apart when the guards come.
* The 2018 concert has Jesus hugging Judas tight just before he's arrested. The two men have to be physically pulled apart when the guards come.
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** Music/JohnLegend's performance in the 2018 live special is also pretty powerful.
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** The original soundtrack has Judas practically ''sobbing'' as the song nears its end, [[RageAgainstTheHeavens screaming that God has made a pawn of him and murdered him.]]
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** The original soundtrack and many productions afterward has Judas practically ''sobbing'' as the song nears its end, [[RageAgainstTheHeavens screaming that God has made a pawn of him and murdered him.]]
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** Creator/TimMinchin's rendition, particularly the reprise of "I Don't Know How To Love Him."
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** Creator/TimMinchin's Music/TimMinchin's rendition, particularly the reprise of "I Don't Know How To Love Him."
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** "God, Thy will is hard... but You hold every card..."
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** However, it can be HeartwearmingInHindsight when you consider what will happen three days later.
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** However, it can be HeartwearmingInHindsight HeartwarmingInHindsight when you consider what will happen three days later.
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* The kiss, especially, is gut-wrenching. It's never played with anger, or any kind of joy, just regret, love, and resignation.
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** Subverted again when the soundtrack ends without any sign that the resurrection happened, just the somber closing piece and that's curtain.
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* Almost any good cast will put some real feeling and friendship into the Jesus-Judas relationship; when you realize that Judas was a pawn in a desperate gamble by the Jewish authorities; a guy who didn't want to have his friend killed and just wanted everything to be the way it was back when they were quiet and safe... and then you realize that he's been demonized by everyone ever since. It might not be in the canon, but it SHOULD BE!
* Pilate, from start to finish. To elaborate, he opens by singing about a dream he had about crucifying Jesus, which he doesn't want to do, but as anyone who knows the story will tell you, he will anyways. He gets increasingly angry at the fact that no matter how hard he tries, he ''can't'' change anything. Even as the crowds riot and threaten to rebel, he ''still'' tries desperately to save Jesus. In the 2000 version, he starts visibly flinching halfway through the flogging, and afterward cradles Jesus in his arms, despite him being covered in blood, gripping his hand and begging him to ''let him help.'' It's only when Jesus tells him he can't be saved that Pilate finally turns on him, though it seems more like he's giving up in despair.
* Pilate, from start to finish. To elaborate, he opens by singing about a dream he had about crucifying Jesus, which he doesn't want to do, but as anyone who knows the story will tell you, he will anyways. He gets increasingly angry at the fact that no matter how hard he tries, he ''can't'' change anything. Even as the crowds riot and threaten to rebel, he ''still'' tries desperately to save Jesus. In the 2000 version, he starts visibly flinching halfway through the flogging, and afterward cradles Jesus in his arms, despite him being covered in blood, gripping his hand and begging him to ''let him help.'' It's only when Jesus tells him he can't be saved that Pilate finally turns on him, though it seems more like he's giving up in despair.
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* Almost any good cast will put some real feeling and friendship into the Jesus-Judas relationship; when you realize that Judas was a pawn in a desperate gamble by the Jewish authorities; a guy who didn't want to have his friend killed and just wanted everything to be the way it was back when they were quiet and safe... and then you realize that he's been demonized by everyone ever since. It might not be since.
* Any time Judas starts running in thecanon, but it SHOULD BE!
1973 movie, especially toward the end of the production. It's a staggering, unsteady motion at the best of times and a desperate, almost-falling scramble at the worst.
* Pilate, from start to finish. To elaborate, he opens by singing about a dream he had about crucifying Jesus, which he doesn't want to do, but as anyone who knows the story will tell you, he will anyways. He gets increasingly angry at the fact that no matter how hard he tries, he ''can't'' change anything. Even as the crowds riot and threaten to rebel, he ''still'' tries desperately to save Jesus. In the 2000 version, he starts visibly flinching halfway through the flogging, and afterward (in both versions) cradles Jesus in his arms, despite him being covered in blood, gripping his hand and begging him to ''let him help.'' It's only when Jesus tells him he can't be saved that Pilate finally turns on him, though it seems more like he's giving up in despair.
* Any time Judas starts running in the
* Pilate, from start to finish. To elaborate, he opens by singing about a dream he had about crucifying Jesus, which he doesn't want to do, but as anyone who knows the story will tell you, he will anyways. He gets increasingly angry at the fact that no matter how hard he tries, he ''can't'' change anything. Even as the crowds riot and threaten to rebel, he ''still'' tries desperately to save Jesus. In the 2000 version, he starts visibly flinching halfway through the flogging, and afterward (in both versions) cradles Jesus in his arms, despite him being covered in blood, gripping his hand and begging him to ''let him help.'' It's only when Jesus tells him he can't be saved that Pilate finally turns on him, though it seems more like he's giving up in despair.
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* Pilate, from start to finish, in the 1973 version. To elaborate, he opens by singing about a dream he had about crucifying Jesus, which he doesn't want to do, but as anyone who knows the story will tell you, he will anyways. He gets increasingly angry at the fact that no matter how hard he tries, he ''can't'' change anything. Even as the crowds riot and threaten to rebel, he ''still'' tries desperately to save Jesus. It's only when Jesus tells him he can't be saved that Pilate finally turns on him.
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* Pilate, from start to finish, in the 1973 version.finish. To elaborate, he opens by singing about a dream he had about crucifying Jesus, which he doesn't want to do, but as anyone who knows the story will tell you, he will anyways. He gets increasingly angry at the fact that no matter how hard he tries, he ''can't'' change anything. Even as the crowds riot and threaten to rebel, he ''still'' tries desperately to save Jesus. In the 2000 version, he starts visibly flinching halfway through the flogging, and afterward cradles Jesus in his arms, despite him being covered in blood, gripping his hand and begging him to ''let him help.'' It's only when Jesus tells him he can't be saved that Pilate finally turns on him.him, though it seems more like he's giving up in despair.
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** The original soundtrack has Judas practically ''sobbing'' as the song nears its end, [[RageAgainstTheHeavens screaming that God has made a pawn of him and murdered him.]]
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* Almost any good cast will put some real feeling and friendship into the Jesus-Judas relationship; when you realise that Judas was a pawn in a desperate gamble by the Jewish authorities; a guy who didn't want to have his friend killed and just wanted everything to be the way it was back when they were quiet and safe... and then you realise that he's been demonised by everyone ever since. It might not be in the canon, but it SHOULD BE!
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* Simon's song has all of Jesus' followers singing his praises and dancing their hearts out alongside Simon, Mary, and the apostles, with everyone full of joy and energy. It's a tear jerker because later on, these same people (minus Mary and the apostles) all end up screaming for Jesus to be crucified.
* Almost any good cast will put some real feeling and friendship into the Jesus-Judas relationship; when yourealise realize that Judas was a pawn in a desperate gamble by the Jewish authorities; a guy who didn't want to have his friend killed and just wanted everything to be the way it was back when they were quiet and safe... and then you realise realize that he's been demonised demonized by everyone ever since. It might not be in the canon, but it SHOULD BE!
* Almost any good cast will put some real feeling and friendship into the Jesus-Judas relationship; when you
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** However, it can be HeartwearmingInHindsight when you consider what will happen three days later.
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* Almost any good cast will put some real feeling and friendship into the Jesus-Judas relationship; when you realise that Judas was a pawn in a desperate gamble by the Jewish authorities; a guy who didn't want to have his friend killed and just wanted everything to be the way it was back when they were quiet and safe... and then you realise that he's been demonised by everyone ever since. It might not be in the canon, but it SHOULD BE!
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* Almost any good cast will put some real feeling and friendship into the Jesus-Judas relationship; when you realise that Judas was a pawn in a desperate gamble by the Jewish authorities; a guy who didn't want to have his friend killed and just wanted everything to be the way it was back when they were quiet and safe... and then you realise that he's been demonised by everyone ever since. It might not be in the canon, but it SHOULD BE!BE!
* Pilate, from start to finish, in the 1973 version. To elaborate, he opens by singing about a dream he had about crucifying Jesus, which he doesn't want to do, but as anyone who knows the story will tell you, he will anyways. He gets increasingly angry at the fact that no matter how hard he tries, he ''can't'' change anything. Even as the crowds riot and threaten to rebel, he ''still'' tries desperately to save Jesus. It's only when Jesus tells him he can't be saved that Pilate finally turns on him.
--> '''Pilate''': ''Don't'' let me stop your great self-destruction! ''Die'' if you want to!
* Pilate, from start to finish, in the 1973 version. To elaborate, he opens by singing about a dream he had about crucifying Jesus, which he doesn't want to do, but as anyone who knows the story will tell you, he will anyways. He gets increasingly angry at the fact that no matter how hard he tries, he ''can't'' change anything. Even as the crowds riot and threaten to rebel, he ''still'' tries desperately to save Jesus. It's only when Jesus tells him he can't be saved that Pilate finally turns on him.
--> '''Pilate''': ''Don't'' let me stop your great self-destruction! ''Die'' if you want to!
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* "John 19:41". Hell, the ending alone.
** The ending of the original movie, with all the hippies, except for the one portraying Jesus, slowly getting back on the bus, with Judas remaining the longest, wistfully looking at the cross before the bus drives away...
** The ending of the original movie, with all the hippies, except for the one portraying Jesus, slowly getting back on the bus, with Judas remaining the longest, wistfully looking at the cross before the bus drives away...
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* "John 19:41". Hell, the ending alone.
[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqDoLcORDwU John 19:41]]. Jesus Christ is dead. The end.
** The ending of the original movie, with all the hippies, except for the one portraying Jesus, slowly getting back on the bus, with Judas remaining the longest, wistfully looking at the cross before the bus drivesaway...away...
* Almost any good cast will put some real feeling and friendship into the Jesus-Judas relationship; when you realise that Judas was a pawn in a desperate gamble by the Jewish authorities; a guy who didn't want to have his friend killed and just wanted everything to be the way it was back when they were quiet and safe... and then you realise that he's been demonised by everyone ever since. It might not be in the canon, but it SHOULD BE!
** The ending of the original movie, with all the hippies, except for the one portraying Jesus, slowly getting back on the bus, with Judas remaining the longest, wistfully looking at the cross before the bus drives
* Almost any good cast will put some real feeling and friendship into the Jesus-Judas relationship; when you realise that Judas was a pawn in a desperate gamble by the Jewish authorities; a guy who didn't want to have his friend killed and just wanted everything to be the way it was back when they were quiet and safe... and then you realise that he's been demonised by everyone ever since. It might not be in the canon, but it SHOULD BE!
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** Tim Minchin's rendition, particularly the reprise of "I Don't Know How To Love Him."
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** Tim Minchin's Creator/TimMinchin's rendition, particularly the reprise of "I Don't Know How To Love Him."
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* "Could We Start Again, Please?" [[BonusSong if the production includes it.]]
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* "Could We Start Again, Please?" [[BonusSong if the production includes it.]] it.
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* "John 19:41." Hell, the ending alone.
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* "John 19:41." 19:41". Hell, the ending alone.
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* "John 19:41" Hell, the ending alone.
* The ending of the original movie, with all the hippies, except for the one portraying Jesus, slowly getting back on the bus, with Judas remaining the longest, wistfully looking at the cross before the bus drives away...
* The ending of the original movie, with all the hippies, except for the one portraying Jesus, slowly getting back on the bus, with Judas remaining the longest, wistfully looking at the cross before the bus drives away...
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* "John 19:41" 19:41." Hell, the ending alone.
* ** The ending of the original movie, with all the hippies, except for the one portraying Jesus, slowly getting back on the bus, with Judas remaining the longest, wistfully looking at the cross before the bus drives away...
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** 'Heaven on Their Minds' can be pretty tragic with this in mind.
* Gethsemane. Dear Lord, Gethsemane.
** Steve Balsamo's 2004 performance in Ahoy, Holland is particularly heartbreaking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-rre_BXxC0
** 'Surely I've exceeded expectations?'
* 'Could We Start Again, Please?' if the production includes it.
* 'Judas' Death'.
** Tim Minchin's rendition, particularly the reprise of 'I Don't Know How To Love Him'.
* 'John 19:41'. Hell, the ending alone.
* Judas practically begging the priests for reassurance that he's doing the right thing in 'Damned For All Time'. Villain? Hardly.
* The "Trials and Tribulations" song in "The Last Supper" is pretty tragic, knowing that this is the last time the disciples will be happy for quite some time.
* Gethsemane. Dear Lord, Gethsemane.
** Steve Balsamo's 2004 performance in Ahoy, Holland is particularly heartbreaking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-rre_BXxC0
** 'Surely I've exceeded expectations?'
* 'Could We Start Again, Please?' if the production includes it.
* 'Judas' Death'.
** Tim Minchin's rendition, particularly the reprise of 'I Don't Know How To Love Him'.
* 'John 19:41'. Hell, the ending alone.
* Judas practically begging the priests for reassurance that he's doing the right thing in 'Damned For All Time'. Villain? Hardly.
* The "Trials and Tribulations" song in "The Last Supper" is pretty tragic, knowing that this is the last time the disciples will be happy for quite some time.
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** 'Heaven "Heaven on Their Minds' Minds" can be pretty tragic with this in mind.
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*Gethsemane. Judas practically begging the priests for reassurance that he's doing the right thing in "Damned For All Time." Villain? Hardly.
* The "Trials and Tribulations" refrain in "The Last Supper" is pretty tragic, knowing that this is the last time the disciples will be happy for quite some time.
* "Gethsemane." Dear Lord, Gethsemane.
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**'Surely "Surely I've exceeded expectations?'
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*'Could "Could We Start Again, Please?' Please?" if the production includes it.
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"Judas' Death."
** Tim Minchin's rendition, particularly the reprise of'I "I Don't Know How To Love Him'.
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*'John 19:41'. "John 19:41" Hell, the ending alone.
* Judas practically begging the priests for reassurance that he's doing the right thing in 'Damned For All Time'. Villain? Hardly.
* The "Trials and Tribulations" song in "The Last Supper" is pretty tragic, knowing that this is the last time the disciples will be happy for quite some time.alone.
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* The "Trials and Tribulations" refrain in "The Last Supper" is pretty tragic, knowing that this is the last time the disciples will be happy for quite some time.
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* Judas practically begging the priests for reassurance that he's doing the right thing in 'Damned For All Time'. Villain? Hardly.
* The "Trials and Tribulations" song in "The Last Supper" is pretty tragic, knowing that this is the last time the disciples will be happy for quite some time.
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* The "Trials and Tribulations" song in "The Last Supper" is pretty tragic, knowing that this is the last time the disciples will be happy for quite some time.
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* The "Trials and Tribulations" song in "The Last Supper" is pretty tragic, knowing that this is the last time the disciples will be happy for quite some time.time.
* The ending of the original movie, with all the hippies, except for the one portraying Jesus, slowly getting back on the bus, with Judas remaining the longest, wistfully looking at the cross before the bus drives away...
* The ending of the original movie, with all the hippies, except for the one portraying Jesus, slowly getting back on the bus, with Judas remaining the longest, wistfully looking at the cross before the bus drives away...
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* Judas practically begging the priests for reassurance that he's doing the right thing in 'Damned For All Time'. Villain? Hardly.
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* Judas practically begging the priests for reassurance that he's doing the right thing in 'Damned For All Time'. Villain? Hardly.Hardly.
* The "Trials and Tribulations" song in "The Last Supper" is pretty tragic, knowing that this is the last time the disciples will be happy for quite some time.
* The "Trials and Tribulations" song in "The Last Supper" is pretty tragic, knowing that this is the last time the disciples will be happy for quite some time.
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** The implication that Jesus really didn't want anything to do with God's grand plan - specifically, Judas' betrayal and suicide.
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** The implication that Jesus really didn't want anything to do with God's grand plan - specifically, Judas' betrayal and suicide.
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** 'Surely I've exceeded expectations?'
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* Judas practically begging the priests for reassurance that he's doing the right thing in 'Damned For All Time'. Villain? Hardly.
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* Knowing what's going to happen.
** 'Heaven on Their Minds' can be pretty tragic with this in mind.
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* 'John 19:41'. Hell, the ending alone.
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** Steve Balsamo's 2004 performance in Ahoy, Holland is particularly heartbreaking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-rre_BXxC0
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** Steve Balsamo's 2004 performance in Ahoy, Holland is particularly heartbreaking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-rre_BXxC0com/watch?v=3-rre_BXxC0
* 'Could We Start Again, Please?' if the production includes it.
* 'Judas' Death'.
** Tim Minchin's rendition, particularly the reprise of 'I Don't Know How To Love Him'.
* 'Could We Start Again, Please?' if the production includes it.
* 'Judas' Death'.
** Tim Minchin's rendition, particularly the reprise of 'I Don't Know How To Love Him'.
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* Gethsemane. Dear Lord, Gethsemane.
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* Gethsemane. Dear Lord, Gethsemane.Gethsemane.
** Steve Balsamo's 2004 performance in Ahoy, Holland is particularly heartbreaking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-rre_BXxC0
** Steve Balsamo's 2004 performance in Ahoy, Holland is particularly heartbreaking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-rre_BXxC0
