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* In her autobiography, Sue describes an interaction between Carrie and Tommy that took place right before the prom.
-->''Carrie went to see Tommy the day before the prom. She was waiting outside one of his classes and he said she looked really wretched, as if she thought he'd yell at her to stop hanging around and stop bugging him.''\\
''She said she had to be in by eleven-thirty at the latest, or her momma would be worried. She said she wasn't going to spoil his time or anything, but it wouldn't be fair to worry her momma.''\\
''Tommy suggested they stop at the Kelly Fruit after and grab a root beer and a burger. All the other kids would be going to Westover or Lewiston, and they would have the place to themselves. Carrie's face lit up, he said. She told him that would be fine. Just fine.''\\
''[[UsedToBeASweetKid This is the girl they keep calling a monster.]] I want you to keep that firmly in mind. The girl who could be satisfied with a hamburger and a dime root beer after her only school dance so her momma wouldn't be worried...''
-->''Carrie went to see Tommy the day before the prom. She was waiting outside one of his classes and he said she looked really wretched, as if she thought he'd yell at her to stop hanging around and stop bugging him.''\\
''She said she had to be in by eleven-thirty at the latest, or her momma would be worried. She said she wasn't going to spoil his time or anything, but it wouldn't be fair to worry her momma.''\\
''Tommy suggested they stop at the Kelly Fruit after and grab a root beer and a burger. All the other kids would be going to Westover or Lewiston, and they would have the place to themselves. Carrie's face lit up, he said. She told him that would be fine. Just fine.''\\
''[[UsedToBeASweetKid This is the girl they keep calling a monster.]] I want you to keep that firmly in mind. The girl who could be satisfied with a hamburger and a dime root beer after her only school dance so her momma wouldn't be worried...''
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*** In the book, she quietly and reservedly tells Tommy himself that she ''knows'' it is a trick and she refuses to fall for it.
*** Her insanity, like many people's, evolved from extreme fear. Margaret's grandmother used to terrify her with her TK ability coupled with dementia. She was "senile to the point of idiocy" relatively young, but used to light the fireplace remotely and do TK stunts at the dinner table, while laughing wildly and drooling or panting "like a dog on a hot day" and doing the [[https://humberhumber.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/mano-cornuto.jpg?w=320&h=240&crop=1 Evil Eye hand sign]][[note]]This actually ''protects'' from evil, but Margaret didn't know Gram was "knocking on wood" there[[/note]]. She even seemed to have GlowingEyesOfDoom. Margaret seems to have turned to religion because she perceived her grandmother as having sold out to the Devil. When she saw Carrie floating her baby bottle soon after Gram died, she may even have thought Gram was influencing her from hell.
*** In the book it was real, and it said "Carrie White is burning for her sins. Jesus never fails."
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* Realizing that Bullying '''Bullying like this DOES exist.exist'''. While people may not be dropping ground up pig on people (hopefully!), the fact that people can be this cruel in real life is hard to wrap one's mind around.
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** The look on Carrie's face when after she's drenched in pig's blood. The one time in her life she's truly happy is so cruelly snatched away from her...''in front of the entire school''.
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** The look on Carrie's face when after she's drenched in pig's blood. The one time in her life she's truly happy She is so cruelly snatched away from her...humiliated...''in front of the entire school''.
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** The look on Carrie's face when after she's drenched in pig's blood. The one time in her life she's truly happy is so cruelly snatched away from her...''in front of the entire school''.
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* In the 1976 film, when Carrie cries to her mother about how the other girls laughed at her and threw things at her during the shower incident. It's so sad that after all the years of horrible abuse they hurled at her, she still wanted them to like her.
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*** When you realized that Carrie endured a nonstop cycle of vicious abuse for '''16 YEARS'''...
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** Honestly I think the "it was either laugh or cry! there was nothing else we could do!" was a BS excuse to try to justify her own actions after the fact. [[spoiler: Someone tripped her on her way out.]] That doesn't sound like "it was either laugh or cry! there was nothing else we could do!" to me!
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** Honestly I think the "it was either laugh or cry! there was nothing else we could do!" was a BS excuse to try to justify her own actions after the fact. [[spoiler: Someone tripped her on her way out.]] That doesn't sound like "it was either laugh or cry! there was nothing else we could do!" to me!
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* Didn't anybody cry during the scene Carrie [[spoiler: killed the student who helped her understand YouTube]]? Considering he was ''trying'' to help her and not be cruel like all the other students.
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* Didn't anybody cry during the scene Carrie [[spoiler: killed the student who helped her understand YouTube]]? Considering he was ''trying'' to help her and not be cruel like all the other students. Carrie probably didn't even ''know'' it was him considering she had, at that point, become WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.
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* From the 2013 version: [[spoiler:"It's [[spoiler:[[WhamLine "It's a girl."]]"]]]]
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* Although they were awful to Carrie, it's quite upsetting seeing the death of Nikki and Lizzy in the 2013 remake, especially for a twin. As Carrie holds them down and they're both panicking, one of the girls reaches out and [[HoldingHands grabs her sister's hand]].
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** Related to that, realizing that some people, when constantly bullied and ridiculed, ''do'' end up snapping and killing numerous people, which makes the whole situation a vicious cycle of pain.
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* In the 2013 remake, the scene with Sue tearfully putting away her prom dress can be a little upsetting. It's more than obvious that she was really looking forward to one of the best nights of her life, and to completely miss out on it (for the better, at least) is an enormous sacrifice for her. And something similar happens to Chris right before this scene; just look at her face when she enters the empty, decorated gym. [[AlasPoorVillain She's visibly heartbroken]].
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* In the 2013 remake, the scene with Sue tearfully putting away her prom dress can be a little upsetting. It's more than obvious that she was really looking forward to one of the best nights of her life, and to completely miss out on it (for the better, at least) is an enormous sacrifice for her. And something similar happens to Chris right before this scene; just look at her face when she enters the empty, decorated gym. [[AlasPoorVillain She's visibly heartbroken]].heartbroken]].
* A scene in the 2002 TV remake has the detective visiting the ruined and abandoned White residence and rummages through a pile of belongings which included Carrie's yearbook. He turns to the "Signatures" part of the book only to see that they're completely blank. It's a very poignant moment that implied Carrie's sheer FriendlessBackground.
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* A scene in the 2002 TV remake has the detective visiting the ruined and abandoned White residence and rummages through a pile of belongings which included Carrie's yearbook. He turns to the "Signatures" part of the book only to see that they're completely blank. It's a very poignant moment that implied Carrie's sheer FriendlessBackground.
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* In the 2013 remake, Carrie [[spoiler:after killing her mother. Her regret along with her saying she wants her mum back just adds to the depressing situation.]]
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* In the 2013 remake, Carrie [[spoiler:after killing her mother. Her regret along with her saying she wants her mum mom back just adds to the depressing situation.]]
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* Realizing that Bullying like this DOES exist. While people may not be dropping ground up pig on people (hopefully!), the fact that people can be this cruel in real life is hard to wrap one's mind around.around.
* In the 2013 remake, the scene with Sue tearfully putting away her prom dress can be a little upsetting. It's more than obvious that she was really looking forward to one of the best nights of her life, and to completely miss out on it (for the better, at least) is an enormous sacrifice for her. And something similar happens to Chris right before this scene; just look at her face when she enters the empty, decorated gym. [[AlasPoorVillain She's visibly heartbroken]].
* In the 2013 remake, the scene with Sue tearfully putting away her prom dress can be a little upsetting. It's more than obvious that she was really looking forward to one of the best nights of her life, and to completely miss out on it (for the better, at least) is an enormous sacrifice for her. And something similar happens to Chris right before this scene; just look at her face when she enters the empty, decorated gym. [[AlasPoorVillain She's visibly heartbroken]].
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* In all versions, the ending shot of the words "Carrie White Burns in Hell" spray painted on her grave (or on the For Sale sign where her house used to be). She can't be free from the insults and the mocking even when she's ''dead!''
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* In all versions, the ending shot of the words "Carrie White Burns in Hell" spray painted on her grave (or on the For Sale sign where her house used to be). She can't be free from the insults and the mocking even when she's ''dead!''''dead!''
* Realizing that Bullying like this DOES exist. While people may not be dropping ground up pig on people (hopefully!), the fact that people can be this cruel in real life is hard to wrap one's mind around.
* Realizing that Bullying like this DOES exist. While people may not be dropping ground up pig on people (hopefully!), the fact that people can be this cruel in real life is hard to wrap one's mind around.
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** It's a version of a scene in the original, where Carrie tells the teacher that she's certain they're playing a trick on her, another way to show that Carrie has no self-esteem at all.
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** Just think about what [[spoiler:the dream]] implies. Sue really had tried to give Carrie a nice time in her life, to make up for mocking her earlier, and the whole thing goes ''horribly''. [[spoiler:In the dream, Sue is still trying to be nice to Carrie, leaving flowers on her grave, only for Carrie to try to attack her. In her traumatized mind, Sue probably imagines there's no way she could ever be forgiven by Carrie. And when Sue dies some day... [[FridgeHorrorCarrie will be waiting for her.]]]]
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** Just think about what [[spoiler:the dream]] implies. Sue really had tried to give Carrie a nice time in her life, to make up for mocking her earlier, and the whole thing goes ''horribly''. [[spoiler:In the dream, Sue is still trying to be nice to Carrie, leaving flowers on her grave, only for Carrie to try to attack her. In her traumatized mind, Sue probably imagines there's no way she could ever be forgiven by Carrie. And when Sue dies some day... [[FridgeHorrorCarrie [[FridgeHorror Carrie will be waiting for her.]]]]
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** Just think about what [[spoiler:the dream]] implies. Sue really had tried to give Carrie a nice time in her life, to make up for mocking her earlier, and the whole thing goes ''horribly''. [[spoiler:In the dream, Sue is still trying to be nice to Carrie, leaving flowers on her grave, only for Carrie to try to attack her. In her traumatized mind, Sue probably imagines there's no way she could ever be forgiven by Carrie.]]
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** Just think about what [[spoiler:the dream]] implies. Sue really had tried to give Carrie a nice time in her life, to make up for mocking her earlier, and the whole thing goes ''horribly''. [[spoiler:In the dream, Sue is still trying to be nice to Carrie, leaving flowers on her grave, only for Carrie to try to attack her. In her traumatized mind, Sue probably imagines there's no way she could ever be forgiven by Carrie.]] And when Sue dies some day... [[FridgeHorrorCarrie will be waiting for her.]]]]
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-->''"I Love You." He's never said that before! That's what I remember most about that day.''
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* In all versions, the ending shot of the words "Carrie White Burns in Hell" spray painted on her grave. She can't even be free from the insults and the mocking even when she's ''dead!''
* In all versions, the ending shot of the words "Carrie White Burns in Hell" spray painted on her grave. She can't even be free from the insults and the mocking even when she's ''dead!''
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* 2013 remake: Sue arrives at Carrie's house and sees her crying over Margaret's body. Carrie, believing that everything that happened was because of Sue, uses her powers and attempts to strangle her. When Sue begs for Carrie not to hurt her, Carrie's only response is a tearful "Why not? I've been hurt my whole life."
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** It should be noted that King did know two girls in high school who were bullied horribly. By the time he started to write this novel, both of them were dead. It's extremely likely this message is exactly what he was going for on at least some level.
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** It should be noted that King did know two girls in high school who were bullied horribly. By the time he started to write this novel, both of them were dead.dead, one from suicide. It's extremely likely this message is exactly what he was going for on at least some level.
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* The death of Chris in the 2013 version. Not because it wasn't deserved, but [[spoiler: because seeing the look of fear on Chris' face actually makes Carrie come to her senses and hesitant to kill her. Then Chris tries to take advantage of this pause to run Carrie over, but crashes to her death instead, and the look of horror and sorrow on Carrie's face at this is just devastating.]]
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* Just think about the story for a moment. Carrie was just a sweet, shy girl who never wanted anything more than to be liked and cared for by people and to feel like someone, anyone, would love her in the way that her horrible mother never did. Carrie went through her whole life never harming a soul but being made to feel like something was inherently wrong with her and that she didn't deserve to be loved in the way that other people were. Then she finally meets people who actually want her to be happy and feels for just a moment that she has been accepted only to have it all ripped away in the cruelest manner imaginable. All Carrie ever wanted was to feel like she deserved to be happy and all she ever got was cruelty and suffering until it just became too much for her to bear. The most heartbreaking fact of all is that there are thousands, millions even, of people like that in real life who will someday snap because the world never gave Them the kind of care that They needed.
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* Just think about the story for a moment. Carrie was just a sweet, shy girl who never wanted anything more than to be liked and cared for by people and to feel like someone, anyone, would love her in the way that her horrible mother never did. Carrie went through her whole life never harming a soul but being made to feel like something was inherently wrong with her and that she didn't deserve to be loved in the way that other people were. Then she finally meets people who actually want her to be happy and feels for just a moment that she has been accepted only to have it all ripped away in the cruelest manner imaginable. All Carrie ever wanted was to feel like she deserved to be happy and all she ever got was cruelty and suffering until it just became too much for her to bear. The most heartbreaking fact of all is that there are thousands, millions even, of people like that in real life who will someday snap because the world never gave Them them the kind of care that They they needed.
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* In the climax ''Film/TheRageCarrie2'' [[spoiler: Rachel uses the last of her powers to save Jesse's life.]]
** Later [[spoiler: Jesse has a dream about Rachel visiting him and they kiss, before she explodes into dust.]] Doubles as NightmareFuel.
** Later [[spoiler: Jesse has a dream about Rachel visiting him and they kiss, before she explodes into dust.]] Doubles as NightmareFuel.
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** Later [[spoiler: Jesse has a dream about Rachel visiting him and they kiss, before she explodes into dust.]] Doubles as NightmareFuel.
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* Also from the 2013 film: A few scenes after Tommy asks Carrie to the prom, she's seen crying in the girls' locker room. Desjardin walks in and assumes Chris was bullying her again. Carrie tearfully tells her that she was asked to the prom by Tommy--- And she ''seriously asks why someone like him would ever want to go with someone like her.'' Just in case you needed more proof that the girl's self-esteem is pretty much nonexistent.
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* The song, "You Shine", becomes HarsherInHindsight near the end, along with a tearful reprise of the chorus.
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* The song, "You Shine", becomes HarsherInHindsight near the end, along with a tearful reprise of the chorus.
-->''"I Love You." He's never said that before! That's what I remember most about that day.''
