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'''Kenai''': Wrong?!" Our brother is dead, and it's because of that monster!\\

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'''Kenai''': Wrong?!" "Wrong?!" Our brother is dead, and it's because of that monster!\\
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** Coupled with Kenai and Denahi's argument when Kenai insists the bear to avenge Sitka's death, but Denahi refuses, stating that it would anger the Spirits. Kenai, dismissing Denahi's warnings, goes off to kill the bear anyway.

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** Coupled with Kenai and Denahi's argument when Kenai insists to go after the bear to avenge Sitka's death, but Denahi refuses, stating that it would anger the Spirits. Kenai, dismissing Denahi's warnings, goes off to kill the bear anyway.
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* The shocked and sad look on Koda's face in the sequel after Kenai yells at him to stop scaring Nita with the salmon. Yes, Koda was going a little overboard, but the sad look on his face...aww.

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** Coupled with Kenai and Denahi's argument when Kenai insists the bear to avenge Sitka's death, but Denahi refuses, stating that it would anger the Spirits. Kenai, dismissing Denahi's warnings, goes off to kill the bear anyway.

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** Coupled **Coupled with Kenai and Denahi's argument when Kenai insists the bear to avenge Sitka's death, but Denahi refuses, stating that it would anger the Spirits. Kenai, dismissing Denahi's warnings, goes off to kill the bear anyway.



'''Kenai''': Wrong?!" Our brother is dead, and it's because of that monster! '''Denahi''': [[NeverMyFault I don't blame the bear, Kenai]].\\

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'''Kenai''': Wrong?!" Our brother is dead, and it's because of that monster! monster!\\
'''Denahi''': [[NeverMyFault I don't blame the bear, Kenai]].\\



'''Kenai''': (''scoffs'') Spirits. Thanks for your wisdom. (''Kenai turns to leave, when Tanana blocks his path, wearing a pleading expression. Kenai takes his bear totem off his neck, snaps it off and throws it into some extinguished embers and storms off. Tanana quickly fishes the Totem out'')\\

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'''Kenai''': (''scoffs'') Spirits. Thanks for your wisdom. (''Kenai turns to leave, when Tanana blocks his path, wearing a pleading expression. Kenai takes his bear totem off his neck, snaps it off and throws it into some extinguished embers and storms off. Tanana quickly fishes the Totem out'')\\

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* Sitka's funeral. All Kenai and Denahi could find of their brother was the [[NeverFoundTheBody torn piece of his parka and his eagle totem]] and it's burned right in front of them. The only things they have left of their big brother are burnt to ashes in front of their eyes, and now they're both all alone in the world. It's Tanana's line right after which really sells it.
--> ''"You left too soon, Sitka. Your brothers need your guidance."''
* Just before this, Kenai tells Denahi they should go after the bear since it caused Sitka's death. "I don't blame ''the bear'', Kenai!" The look of shock on Kenai's face when Denahi says this...

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* Sitka's funeral. All Kenai and Denahi could find of their brother was the [[NeverFoundTheBody torn piece of his parka and his eagle totem]] and it's burned right in front of them. The only things they have left of their big brother are burnt to ashes in front of their eyes, and now they're both all alone in the world. It's
**Coupled with Kenai and Denahi's argument when Kenai insists the bear to avenge Sitka's death, but Denahi refuses, stating that it would anger the Spirits. Kenai, dismissing Denahi's warnings, goes off to kill the bear anyway.
-->'''Kenai''': You ready?\\
'''Denahi''': For what?\\
'''Kenai''': We're going after the bear.\\
(''he tosses Denahi a spear. Denahi hesitantly looks at the spear in his hand'')\\
'''Denahi''': I know what you're feeling, but...but killing that bear is wrong! (''tosses his spear to the ground'')\\
'''Kenai''': Wrong?!" Our brother is dead, and it's because of that monster! '''Denahi''': [[NeverMyFault I don't blame the bear, Kenai]].\\
'''Kenai''': ...I see.\\
'''Denahi''': Killing that bear won't make you a man. (''reaches to grab Kenai's spear. Kenai shoves him away'')\\
'''Kenai''': Oh, now you're trying to be wise!\\
'''Denahi''': I'm trying to follow my totem! WHY CAN'T YOU DO THE SAME?!\\
'''Kenai''': You really think that love has anything to do with being a man? A man wouldn't just sit here and do nothing!\\
'''Denahi''': Kenai! Don't upset the spirits.\\
'''Kenai''': (''scoffs'') Spirits. Thanks for your wisdom. (''Kenai turns to leave, when Tanana blocks his path, wearing a pleading expression. Kenai takes his bear totem off his neck, snaps it off and throws it into some extinguished embers and storms off. Tanana quickly fishes the Totem out'')\\
'''Denahi''': I've gotta stop him! (''takes the bear totem from
Tanana's line right after which really sells it.
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hands and darts away. Tanana looks up at the sky.'')\\
'''Tanana''': You
left too soon, Sitka. Your brothers need your guidance."''
* Just before this, Kenai tells Denahi they should go after the bear since it caused Sitka's death. "I don't blame ''the bear'', Kenai!" The look of shock on Kenai's face when Denahi says this...
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* In the sequel, Kenai hides Koda to try and draw away a hunter. You can see the horror on Koda's face because that's probably exactly the last thing he remembers his mom doing before she died fighting Kenai.
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** For that matter, the look on Sitka's face right before he breaks the glacier and plunges both himself and the bear into the lake below. The bear survives. He doesn't. The worst part about it is that it looked as if Sitka ''knew'' what would happen to him; how that move would cost him his life and the expression seemed to tell his brothers, "[[FacingDeathWithDignity If I don't make it, please don't take revenge. I'm doing this because I want to.]]"

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** For that matter, the look on Sitka's face right before he breaks the glacier and plunges both himself and the bear into the lake below. The bear survives. He doesn't. The worst part about it is that it looked as if Sitka ''knew'' what would happen to him; how that move would cost him his life and the expression seemed to tell his brothers, "[[FacingDeathWithDignity "[[FaceDeathWithDignity If I don't make it, please don't take revenge. I'm doing this because I want to.]]"
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** For that matter, the look on Sitka's face right before he breaks the glacier and plunges both himself and the bear into the lake below. The bear survives. He doesn't. The worst part about it is that it looked as if Sitka ''knew'' what would happen to him; how that move would cost him his life and the expression seemed to tell his brothers, "If I don't make it, please don't take revenge. I'm doing this because I want to."

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** For that matter, the look on Sitka's face right before he breaks the glacier and plunges both himself and the bear into the lake below. The bear survives. He doesn't. The worst part about it is that it looked as if Sitka ''knew'' what would happen to him; how that move would cost him his life and the expression seemed to tell his brothers, "If "[[FacingDeathWithDignity If I don't make it, please don't take revenge. I'm doing this because I want to."]]"
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* Just before this, Kenai tells Denahi they should go after the bear since it caused Sitka's death. "I don't blame ''the bear'', Kenai!" The look of shock on Kenai's face when Denahi says this...
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** Though arguably the sadness of the moment is [[{{Narm}} diminished by the fact that a Phil Collins song is played over it]].
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** For that matter, the look on Sitka's face right before he breaks the glacier and plunges both himself and the bear into the lake below. The bear survives. He doesn't.

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** For that matter, the look on Sitka's face right before he breaks the glacier and plunges both himself and the bear into the lake below. The bear survives. He doesn't. The worst part about it is that it looked as if Sitka ''knew'' what would happen to him; how that move would cost him his life and the expression seemed to tell his brothers, "If I don't make it, please don't take revenge. I'm doing this because I want to."
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOm7kg_3mYE The original version]] of this scene skips the song, allowing us to hear Kenai's story from start to finish. The way his voice steadily cracks, all the while Koda is slowly putting the pieces together...it's utterly gutwrenching.

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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOm7kg_3mYE The original version]] of this scene skips the song, allowing us to hear Kenai's story from start to finish. The way his voice steadily cracks, all the while Koda is slowly putting the pieces together...it's utterly gutwrenching.gut-wrenching.



* The moment just a few scenes later between Rut and Tuke over what it meant to be a brother, right in front of Koda, who realizes despite the mistakes his brother made, he saved him several times, showing that he did love him and that he could change, just like the moose brothers.

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* The moment just a few scenes later between Rut and Tuke over what it meant means to be a brother, right in front of Koda, who realizes despite the mistakes his brother made, he saved him several times, showing that he did love him and that he could change, just like the moose brothers.



* Sitka's funeral. All Kenai and Denahi could find of their brother was the [[NeverFoundTheBody torn piece of his parka and his eagle totem]] and it's burned right in front of them. The only things they have left of their big brother is burnt to ashes in front of their eyes and now they're both all alone in the world. It's Tanana's line straight after which really seals it.

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* Sitka's funeral. All Kenai and Denahi could find of their brother was the [[NeverFoundTheBody torn piece of his parka and his eagle totem]] and it's burned right in front of them. The only things they have left of their big brother is are burnt to ashes in front of their eyes eyes, and now they're both all alone in the world. It's Tanana's line straight right after which really seals sells it.
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--->'''Denahi:''' I'm sorry, Kenai... I don't know what I'm doing anymore. I need help.

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--->'''Denahi:''' -->'''Denahi:''' I'm sorry, Kenai... I don't know what I'm doing anymore. I need help.

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* The brief scene before the final climax showing [[JerkassWoobie Denahi]] alone, lost and cold on the mountain, crying over his failure to avenge his brother.

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* The brief scene before the final climax showing [[JerkassWoobie Denahi]] alone, lost and cold on the mountain, crying moping over his failure to avenge his brother.brother.
--->'''Denahi:''' I'm sorry, Kenai... I don't know what I'm doing anymore. I need help.

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--->'''Kenai:''' I'm sorry, Koda....I'm so sorry.



--->'''Kenai:''' I'm sorry, Koda....I'm so sorry.
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** The way Koda is so cheerful and affectionate with Kenai, and Kenai averts his gaze, rebuffs Koda's hug, and sets him aside, in a you're-giving-me-''way''-too-much-credit sort of way.

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** *** The way Koda is so cheerful and affectionate with Kenai, and Kenai averts his gaze, rebuffs Koda's hug, and sets him aside, in a you're-giving-me-''way''-too-much-credit sort of way.

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'''Koda:'''I don't like this story.\\
'''Kenai:''' Your mother isn't coming.

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'''Koda:'''I '''Koda:''' I don't like this story.\\
'''Kenai:''' Your mother isn't mother's not coming.



---->'''Kenai:'''I didn't know--\\
'''Koda:''' (''slowly backing away'') [[LittleNo No...No!]]\\

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---->'''Kenai:'''I didn't know--\\
---->'''Kenai:''' Koda, I did something very wrong.\\
'''Koda:''' What'd you do, Kenai?\\
'''Kenai:''' I--I killed a bear.\\
'''Koda:''' (''gasps'') I--\\
'''Kenai:''' Koda...\\
'''Koda:''' (''slowly backing away'') I don't like this story.\\
'''Kenai:''' Koda, your mother's not coming.\\
'''Koda:''' (''close to crying'')
[[LittleNo No...]]\\
'''Kenai:''' I didn't know, Koda--\\
'''Koda:''' [[LittleNo ...
No!]]\\
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* The "No Way Out" scene where Kenai has to tell Koda [[spoiler: that he killed his mother. You can hear the torment and self-loathing in Joaquin Phoenix's voice as Kenai tries to explain.]]

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* The "No Way Out" scene where Kenai has to tell Koda [[spoiler: that he killed his mother. You can hear the torment and self-loathing in Joaquin Phoenix's voice as Kenai tries to explain.]]



--->'''Kenai:''' [[spoiler:Koda, I did something very wrong.]]\\
'''Koda:''' [[spoiler:I don't like this story.]]\\
'''Kenai:''' [[spoiler:Your mother isn't coming.]]
** [[spoiler: Koda responds with a LittleNo before he darts off in disbelief, climbing a tree and watching Kenai dissolve into a HeroicBSOD.]]

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--->'''Kenai:''' [[spoiler:Koda, Koda, I did something very wrong.]]\\
'''Koda:''' [[spoiler:I
\\
'''Koda:'''I
don't like this story.]]\\
\\
'''Kenai:''' [[spoiler:Your Your mother isn't coming.]]
coming.
** [[spoiler: Koda responds with a LittleNo before he darts off in disbelief, climbing a tree and watching Kenai dissolve into a HeroicBSOD.]]



---->'''Kenai:''' [[spoiler:I didn't know--]]\\
'''Koda:''' [[spoiler:(''slowly backing away'') [[LittleNo No...No!]]]]\\
'''Kenai:''' [[spoiler:I ''swear'' I didn't know!]]

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---->'''Kenai:''' [[spoiler:I ---->'''Kenai:'''I didn't know--]]\\
know--\\
'''Koda:''' [[spoiler:(''slowly (''slowly backing away'') [[LittleNo No...No!]]]]\\
No!]]\\
'''Kenai:''' [[spoiler:I I ''swear'' I didn't know!]]know!



--->'''Kenai:''' [[spoiler:I'm sorry, Koda....I'm so sorry.]]
* As [[spoiler:the three brothers are reuniting on the mountain, Koda is communing with the spirit of his deceased mother, a final farewell before she joins the Spirit Plains forever.]] One can only imagine what they're saying, but you can bet it's a tearjerker.

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--->'''Kenai:''' [[spoiler:I'm I'm sorry, Koda....I'm so sorry.]]
sorry.
* As [[spoiler:the the three brothers are reuniting on the mountain, Koda is communing with the spirit of his deceased mother, a final farewell before she joins the Spirit Plains forever.]] forever. One can only imagine what they're saying, but you can bet it's a tearjerker.



* In the sequel, Kenai hides Koda to try and draw away a hunter. You can see the horror on Koda's face because that's probably exactly the last thing he remembers his mom doing [[spoiler: before she died fighting Kenai.]]
* The disappointed and almost remorseful look on Sitka's face when he appears to Kenai [[spoiler: moments before the latter is transformed into a bear.]] Especially since Kenai ''just'' killed the bear he thought was responsible for Sitka's death.
** Especially worse is when Denahi arrives on the scene [[spoiler:just moments after Kenai's transformation and sees Kenai's torn clothing and believes his own little brother is dead.]]
** For that matter, the look on Sitka's face right before he breaks the glacier and plunges both himself and the bear into the lake below. The bear survives. [[spoiler: He doesn't.]]

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* In the sequel, Kenai hides Koda to try and draw away a hunter. You can see the horror on Koda's face because that's probably exactly the last thing he remembers his mom doing [[spoiler: before she died fighting Kenai.]]
Kenai.
* The disappointed and almost remorseful look on Sitka's face when he appears to Kenai [[spoiler: moments before the latter is transformed into a bear.]] bear. Especially since Kenai ''just'' killed the bear he thought was responsible for Sitka's death.
** Especially worse is when Denahi arrives on the scene [[spoiler:just just moments after Kenai's transformation and sees Kenai's torn clothing and believes his own little brother is dead.]]
dead.
** For that matter, the look on Sitka's face right before he breaks the glacier and plunges both himself and the bear into the lake below. The bear survives. [[spoiler: He doesn't.]]
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-->'''Kenai:''' [[spoiler:Koda, I did something very wrong.]]\\

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-->'''Kenai:''' --->'''Kenai:''' [[spoiler:Koda, I did something very wrong.]]\\



---> '''Kenai:''' [[spoiler:I didn't know--]]\\

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---> '''Kenai:''' ---->'''Kenai:''' [[spoiler:I didn't know--]]\\
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* The "No Way Out" scene where Kenai has to tell Koda [[spoiler: that he killed his mother. You can hear the torment and self-loathing in Phoenix's voice as Kenai tries to explain.]]

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* The "No Way Out" scene where Kenai has to tell Koda [[spoiler: that he killed his mother. You can hear the torment and self-loathing in Joaquin Phoenix's voice as Kenai tries to explain.]]
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** For that matter, the look on Sitka's face right before he breaks the glacier and plunges both himself and the bear into the lake below. The bear survives. [[spoiler: He doesn't.]]

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** For that matter, the look on Sitka's face right before he breaks the glacier and plunges both himself and the bear into the lake below. The bear survives. [[spoiler: He doesn't.]]]]
* The brief scene before the final climax showing [[JerkassWoobie Denahi]] alone, lost and cold on the mountain, crying over his failure to avenge his brother.
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-->'''Kenai:''' You know that story you told me last night??\\

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-->'''Kenai:''' You know that story you told me last night??\\night?\\



'''Kenai:''' Well it, kind of about a man. And, kind of about a bear. But, [[HeroicSelfDeprecation mostly]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone it's about a]] [[MeaningfulEcho monster]].

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'''Kenai:''' Well it, it's, kind of about a man. And, kind of about a bear. But, [[HeroicSelfDeprecation mostly]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone it's about a]] [[MeaningfulEcho monster]].
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* The "No Way Out" scene where Kenai has to tell Koda [[spoiler: that he killed his mother.]]

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* The "No Way Out" scene where Kenai has to tell Koda [[spoiler: that he killed his mother.]] You can hear the torment and self-loathing in Phoenix's voice as Kenai tries to explain.]]
-->'''Kenai:''' You know that story you told me last night??\\
'''Koda:''' Yeah?\\
'''Kenai:''' Well, I uh... I have a story to tell you.\\
'''Koda:''' Really? What's it about?\\
'''Kenai:''' Well it, kind of about a man. And, kind of about a bear. But, [[HeroicSelfDeprecation mostly]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone it's about a]] [[MeaningfulEcho monster]].
** Though the rest of the conversation is kept out, this exchange was left in at the end.
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--->'''Kenai:''' [[spoiler:I'm sorry, Koda....I'm so sorry.]]
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** [[spoiler: The way Koda is so cheerful and affectionate with Kenai, and Kenai averts his gaze, rebuffs Koda's hug, and sets him aside, in a you're-giving-me-''way''-too-much-credit sort of way.]]

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** [[spoiler: The way Koda is so cheerful and affectionate with Kenai, and Kenai averts his gaze, rebuffs Koda's hug, and sets him aside, in a you're-giving-me-''way''-too-much-credit sort of way.]]
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOm7kg_3mYE The original version]] of this scene skips the song, allowing us to hear Kenai's story from start to finish. The way his voice steadily cracks, all the while [[spoiler:Koda is slowly putting the pieces together...it's utterly gutwrenching.]]

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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOm7kg_3mYE The original version]] of this scene skips the song, allowing us to hear Kenai's story from start to finish. The way his voice steadily cracks, all the while [[spoiler:Koda Koda is slowly putting the pieces together...it's utterly gutwrenching.]]
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