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to keep it consistent, i used this picture for comparison: here's approximately the standard I used:
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HowToDoItPlot/ LogisticsPlot
A plot which focuses heavily on the mundane details of ''how'' the characters accomplish something. The characters know what they are trying to do-- now they actually have to do it. Stuff like, gathering supplies, putting together plans, testing their designs, -- in some stories, this might be handled in a quick montoge, but instead it is shown step-by-step, so that audiences can follow the details.
Often involves
Much more common in video games
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[[caption-width-right:877: Correct, Possibly Correct, Clearly No]]
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category 1, clearly wrong, category 2, hips but not clear cut, category 3, clearly correct
category 1, clearly wrong, category 2, hips but not clear cut, category 3, clearly correct
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category 1, clearly wrong, category 2, hips but not clear cut, category 3, clearly correct
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category 1, clearly wrong, category 2, hips but not clear cut, category 3, clearly correct
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** This one ''wouldnt'' be too bad in other context, imo... but this is about a character from WesterAnimation/PawPatrol. From ''Paw Patrol!''
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** This one ''wouldnt'' be too bad in other context, imo... but this is about a character from WesterAnimation/PawPatrol.WesternAnimation/PAWPatrol. From ''Paw Patrol!''
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* LasciviousBeautyMark ''WesternAnimation/BaltoIIIWingsOfChange'': Stella, Boris's LoveInterest, h
as a notable beauty mark near her beak. Appropriate, considering her rather attractive appearance (she's a goose with NonMammalMammaries and HartmanHips) and her personality as a flirtatious FemmeFatale.
as a notable beauty mark near her beak. Appropriate, considering her rather attractive appearance (she's a goose with NonMammalMammaries and HartmanHips) and her personality as a flirtatious FemmeFatale.
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* LasciviousBeautyMark ''WesternAnimation/BaltoIIIWingsOfChange'': Stella, Boris's LoveInterest, h
ashas a notable beauty mark near her beak. Appropriate, considering her rather attractive appearance (she's a goose with NonMammalMammaries and HartmanHips) and her personality as a flirtatious FemmeFatale.
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I think that there is a real characterization-by-appearance trope here-- a female character has large hips to emphasize that she is mature, womanly, and/or maternal. This is not, however, how the trope is currently being used
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I think that there is ''is'' a real characterization-by-appearance trope here-- a female character has large hips to emphasize that she is mature, womanly, and/or maternal. This is not, however, how the trope is currently being used
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[[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Renamon_5663.jpg Renamon from Digimon]] (do people not know the difference between thighs and hips?)
[[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/9e12d29a_c1ef_402c_b446_c3bd2290ec08.jpeg 2-D from the Gorillaz]] ???
[[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/milim_anime.png This anime girl from That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime]] also ewww that design
[[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/tomoe_52.png This other anime girl]]
[[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mega_man_cartoon_title.jpg Mega-man]]
[[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/9e12d29a_c1ef_402c_b446_c3bd2290ec08.jpeg 2-D from the Gorillaz]] ???
[[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/milim_anime.png This anime girl from That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime]] also ewww that design
[[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/tomoe_52.png This other anime girl]]
[[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mega_man_cartoon_title.jpg Mega-man]]
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* [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Renamon_5663.jpg Renamon from Digimon]] (do people not know the difference between thighs and hips?)
* [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/9e12d29a_c1ef_402c_b446_c3bd2290ec08.jpeg 2-D from the Gorillaz]] ???
* [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/milim_anime.png This anime girl from That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime]] also ewww that design
* [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/tomoe_52.png This other anime girl]]
* [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mega_man_cartoon_title.jpg Mega-man]]
* [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/9e12d29a_c1ef_402c_b446_c3bd2290ec08.jpeg 2-D from the Gorillaz]] ???
* [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/milim_anime.png This anime girl from That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime]] also ewww that design
* [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/tomoe_52.png This other anime girl]]
* [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mega_man_cartoon_title.jpg Mega-man]]
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I think that there is a real characterization by appearance trope-- a female character has large hips to emphasize that she is mature, womanly, and/or maternal. This is not, however, how the trope is currently being used
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I think that there is a real characterization by appearance trope-- characterization-by-appearance trope here-- a female character has large hips to emphasize that she is mature, womanly, and/or maternal. This is not, however, how the trope is currently being used
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I think that there is a real characterization by appearance trope-- a female character has large hips to emphasize that she is mature, womanly, and probably maternal. This is not, however, how the trope is currently being used
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I think that there is a real characterization by appearance trope-- a female character has large hips to emphasize that she is mature, womanly, and probably and/or maternal. This is not, however, how the trope is currently being used
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HartmanHips is wishy-washy in its description-- it mentions several times that large hips can be used to emphasize a character's mature femininity, or motherliness, but then it goes back and says "or it can also be sexy... or it can just be realistic... or it can be to get feminine curves into a g-rated show..." etc. Ultimately, the only required description is just, "has large hips"
I think that there is a real characterization by appearance trope-- a female character has large hips to emphasize that she is mature, womanly, and probably maternal. This is not, however, how the trope is currently being used
Wick Check!
HartmanHips is wishy-washy in its description-- it mentions several times that large hips can be used to emphasize a character's mature femininity, or motherliness, but then it goes back and says "or it can also be sexy... or it can just be realistic... or it can be to get feminine curves into a g-rated show..." etc. Ultimately, the only required description is just, "has large hips"
I think that there is a real characterization by appearance trope-- a female character has large hips to emphasize that she is mature, womanly, and probably maternal. This is not, however, how the trope is currently being used
Wick Check!
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Side Note: I want to avoid including characters who "win" because they show how badass they are, if that makes sense. For example, if someone steals batmans clothes, and he kicks their ass, that's not him being too confident to shame. He still comes out looking cool. I specifically want to talk about characters that ''dont'' look cool, but aren't concerned about it. If someone can figure out how to phrase that it would be helpful
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%%* ComicBooks/{{Deadpool}}
[[AC: Literature]]
* Literature/TheMule (part of the ''Literature/FoundationSeries''): the weaponized version is used by [[spoiler:the Mule]] in his identity as Magnifico-- a pathetic, sniveling ButtMonkey jester who shares with the other characters about the various indignities he's been forced to endure when working for The Mule. [[spoiler: Not the sort of cover identity you would expect of the BidBad.]]
[[AC: Live Action TV]]
* Series/{{Misfits}}: Basically the defining character trait for Nathan (and his SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute Rudy in season 3). He constantly, cheerfully spouts embarrassing stories about himself, some true, some not.
[[AC: Webcomics]]
* Webcomics/TwoGuysAndGuy: Frank is a deadpan version of this-- its not obvious at first, but he's entirely unconcerned with what other people think of him. He remains perfectly calm no matter what anyone does to him or how awkward the situation-- which may have something to do with him being a complete sociopath.
Race Nonexistant
A trope for ''drawn'' media, where (real-world) race does not exist or is not commented on.
This is a worldbuilding trope, where the features that the audience would probably consider to be racial markers (such as skin color and hair type) are viewed in-universe as just another physical feature with no particular implications. Most characters do not belong to any particularly identifiable ethnic group, nor does anyone mention it or identify themselves by race. Racism is entirely non-existent. Some characters may appear to match a real world race (say, fair skin, blonde hair and blue eyes, or dark brown skin and curly black hair), but others will not. In other words, everyone is AmbiguouslyBrown.
Some stories may have ''fictional'' "races", such as elves, dwarves, etc, with their own traits and stereotypes, but the things we would consider ''human'' ethnic traits like skin and hair color are unrelated-- any dwarf, elf etc might look like any human race.
Exclusive to drawn media-- the live action equivalent would be ColorblindCasting. Taken to an extreme, you get AmazingTechnicolorPopulation. Inverse of PeopleOfHairColor, where traits we view as ''non''-racial are considered ethnic markers. Common in works set in the future-- see also InTheFutureHumansWillBeOneRace.
yes:
%%saga
%% oots
%% dnd in general modern illustrations
[[AC: Film, Animated]]
* WesternAnimation/Nimona2023: Unlike the comic, which seemed to mostly be white with a couple of characters being AmbiguouslyBrown, the character designs in the movie version are much more varied. Many are altered to [[InkSuitActor more closely resemble their voice actors]], though from an in-universe perspective this seems totally irrelevant-- the Queen, for example, has dark skin, as does StreetKid Ballistar. Both the common population and the noble-born knights have a wide variety of skin and hair colors. All of them seem to be from the same kingdom with no distinctions.
[[AC: WesternAnimation]]
* WesternAnimation/HighGuardianSpice: The characters do have ''fantasy'' races (such as elf, dwarf, etc)
* WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse: Race exists as normal for the human characters (Luz is hispanic, for instance), but among the witches of the Boiling Isles, there is no apparent distinction.
no: avatar, steven universe
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old fashioned women's underwear, often used for comedic effect
DoWeHaveThisOne?
DistaffCopunterpart to Goofy Print Boxers
* MinnieMouse
* The weird one from sword in the stone
* punpkin pants SoulEater
* clotheline scene from Frozen
* clothesline American Tail
* Little Archie/ Veronica
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Aloof Asexual
*
Childish Asexual
The other common portrayl of Asexal characers,
* Luffy
* Spongebob
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Is actually a genre
* HistoricalFiction
* SuperheroStories
Not great
theme with strong connections (?)
representation etc
* MechaShow
* BlindnessInMedia
* SpaceStories
* ClownMedia
* GangsterFiction
* SeaStories
* CanineFiction
* MilitaryAndWarfareWorks
* TrollTales
* AutismInMedia
* BugWorks
* MysteryFiction
* LatinoAmericanMedia
* AngelWorks
* ElfWorks
* FairyFiction
* FelineFiction
* GoblinWorks
* PacificIslandersInMedia
* CrossoverWorks
* WorksSetInWorldWarI
* MutantMedia
* YoukaiWorks
* GovernmentProcedural
* [[TheWestern Works Set in the Wild West]]
* SupernaturalFiction
* ZombieStories
* ImmortalityWorks
* TimeTravelTales
* QueerMedia
* DinosaurMedia
* PsychicStories
* MummyMedia
* ToyTales
* MermaidMedia
* AfricanAmericanMedia
* CookingStories
* VideoGameStories
* NinjaFiction
* [[AncientRome Works Set in Ancient Rome]]
* WitchWorks
* KaijuWorks
* MarsMedia
* ConspiracyThriller
* AlienWorks
* WerewolfWorks
* PoliceProcedural
* TransformationFiction
* BovineFiction
* DetectiveDrama
* [[{{Jidaigeki}} Works Set in Feudal Japan]]
* PirateStories
* DemonWorks
* GhostFiction
Side Note: I want to avoid including characters who "win" because they show how badass they are, if that makes sense. For example, if someone steals batmans clothes, and he kicks their ass, that's not him being too confident to shame. He still comes out looking cool. I specifically want to talk about characters that ''dont'' look cool, but aren't concerned about it. If someone can figure out how to phrase that it would be helpful
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%%* ComicBooks/{{Deadpool}}
[[AC: Literature]]
* Literature/TheMule (part of the ''Literature/FoundationSeries''): the weaponized version is used by [[spoiler:the Mule]] in his identity as Magnifico-- a pathetic, sniveling ButtMonkey jester who shares with the other characters about the various indignities he's been forced to endure when working for The Mule. [[spoiler: Not the sort of cover identity you would expect of the BidBad.]]
[[AC: Live Action TV]]
* Series/{{Misfits}}: Basically the defining character trait for Nathan (and his SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute Rudy in season 3). He constantly, cheerfully spouts embarrassing stories about himself, some true, some not.
[[AC: Webcomics]]
* Webcomics/TwoGuysAndGuy: Frank is a deadpan version of this-- its not obvious at first, but he's entirely unconcerned with what other people think of him. He remains perfectly calm no matter what anyone does to him or how awkward the situation-- which may have something to do with him being a complete sociopath.
Race Nonexistant
A trope for ''drawn'' media, where (real-world) race does not exist or is not commented on.
This is a worldbuilding trope, where the features that the audience would probably consider to be racial markers (such as skin color and hair type) are viewed in-universe as just another physical feature with no particular implications. Most characters do not belong to any particularly identifiable ethnic group, nor does anyone mention it or identify themselves by race. Racism is entirely non-existent. Some characters may appear to match a real world race (say, fair skin, blonde hair and blue eyes, or dark brown skin and curly black hair), but others will not. In other words, everyone is AmbiguouslyBrown.
Some stories may have ''fictional'' "races", such as elves, dwarves, etc, with their own traits and stereotypes, but the things we would consider ''human'' ethnic traits like skin and hair color are unrelated-- any dwarf, elf etc might look like any human race.
Exclusive to drawn media-- the live action equivalent would be ColorblindCasting. Taken to an extreme, you get AmazingTechnicolorPopulation. Inverse of PeopleOfHairColor, where traits we view as ''non''-racial are considered ethnic markers. Common in works set in the future-- see also InTheFutureHumansWillBeOneRace.
yes:
%%saga
%% oots
%% dnd in general modern illustrations
[[AC: Film, Animated]]
* WesternAnimation/Nimona2023: Unlike the comic, which seemed to mostly be white with a couple of characters being AmbiguouslyBrown, the character designs in the movie version are much more varied. Many are altered to [[InkSuitActor more closely resemble their voice actors]], though from an in-universe perspective this seems totally irrelevant-- the Queen, for example, has dark skin, as does StreetKid Ballistar. Both the common population and the noble-born knights have a wide variety of skin and hair colors. All of them seem to be from the same kingdom with no distinctions.
[[AC: WesternAnimation]]
* WesternAnimation/HighGuardianSpice: The characters do have ''fantasy'' races (such as elf, dwarf, etc)
* WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse: Race exists as normal for the human characters (Luz is hispanic, for instance), but among the witches of the Boiling Isles, there is no apparent distinction.
no: avatar, steven universe
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old fashioned women's underwear, often used for comedic effect
DoWeHaveThisOne?
DistaffCopunterpart to Goofy Print Boxers
* MinnieMouse
* The weird one from sword in the stone
* punpkin pants SoulEater
* clotheline scene from Frozen
* clothesline American Tail
* Little Archie/ Veronica
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------
Aloof Asexual
*
Childish Asexual
The other common portrayl of Asexal characers,
* Luffy
* Spongebob
------
Is actually a genre
* HistoricalFiction
* SuperheroStories
Not great
theme with strong connections (?)
representation etc
* MechaShow
* BlindnessInMedia
* SpaceStories
* ClownMedia
* GangsterFiction
* SeaStories
* CanineFiction
* MilitaryAndWarfareWorks
* TrollTales
* AutismInMedia
* BugWorks
* MysteryFiction
* LatinoAmericanMedia
* AngelWorks
* ElfWorks
* FairyFiction
* FelineFiction
* GoblinWorks
* PacificIslandersInMedia
* CrossoverWorks
* WorksSetInWorldWarI
* MutantMedia
* YoukaiWorks
* GovernmentProcedural
* [[TheWestern Works Set in the Wild West]]
* SupernaturalFiction
* ZombieStories
* ImmortalityWorks
* TimeTravelTales
* QueerMedia
* DinosaurMedia
* PsychicStories
* MummyMedia
* ToyTales
* MermaidMedia
* AfricanAmericanMedia
* CookingStories
* VideoGameStories
* NinjaFiction
* [[AncientRome Works Set in Ancient Rome]]
* WitchWorks
* KaijuWorks
* MarsMedia
* ConspiracyThriller
* AlienWorks
* WerewolfWorks
* PoliceProcedural
* TransformationFiction
* BovineFiction
* DetectiveDrama
* [[{{Jidaigeki}} Works Set in Feudal Japan]]
* PirateStories
* DemonWorks
* GhostFiction
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Side Note: I want to avoid including characters who "win" because they show how badass they are, if that makes sense. For example, if someone steals batmans clothes, and he kicks their ass, that's not him being too confident to shame. He still comes out looking cool. I specifically want to talk about characters that ''dont'' look cool, but aren't concerned about it. If someone can figure out how to phrase that it would be helpful
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%%* ComicBooks/{{Deadpool}}
[[AC: Literature]]
* Literature/TheMule (part of the ''Literature/FoundationSeries''): the weaponized version is used by [[spoiler:the Mule]] in his identity as Magnifico-- a pathetic, sniveling ButtMonkey jester who shares with the other characters about the various indignities he's been forced to endure when working for The Mule. [[spoiler: Not the sort of cover identity you would expect of the BidBad.]]
[[AC: Live Action TV]]
* Series/{{Misfits}}: Basically the defining character trait for Nathan (and his SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute Rudy in season 3). He constantly, cheerfully spouts embarrassing stories about himself, some true, some not.
[[AC: Webcomics]]
* Webcomics/TwoGuysAndGuy: Frank is a deadpan version of this-- its not obvious at first, but he's entirely unconcerned with what other people think of him. He remains perfectly calm no matter what anyone does to him or how awkward the situation-- which may have something to do with him being a complete sociopath.
Race Nonexistant
A trope for ''drawn'' media, where (real-world) race does not exist or is not commented on.
This is a worldbuilding trope, where the features that the audience would probably consider to be racial markers (such as skin color and hair type) are viewed in-universe as just another physical feature with no particular implications. Most characters do not belong to any particularly identifiable ethnic group, nor does anyone mention it or identify themselves by race. Racism is entirely non-existent. Some characters may appear to match a real world race (say, fair skin, blonde hair and blue eyes, or dark brown skin and curly black hair), but others will not. In other words, everyone is AmbiguouslyBrown.
Some stories may have ''fictional'' "races", such as elves, dwarves, etc, with their own traits and stereotypes, but the things we would consider ''human'' ethnic traits like skin and hair color are unrelated-- any dwarf, elf etc might look like any human race.
Exclusive to drawn media-- the live action equivalent would be ColorblindCasting. Taken to an extreme, you get AmazingTechnicolorPopulation. Inverse of PeopleOfHairColor, where traits we view as ''non''-racial are considered ethnic markers. Common in works set in the future-- see also InTheFutureHumansWillBeOneRace.
yes:
%%saga
%% oots
%% dnd in general modern illustrations
[[AC: Film, Animated]]
* WesternAnimation/Nimona2023: Unlike the comic, which seemed to mostly be white with a couple of characters being AmbiguouslyBrown, the character designs in the movie version are much more varied. Many are altered to [[InkSuitActor more closely resemble their voice actors]], though from an in-universe perspective this seems totally irrelevant-- the Queen, for example, has dark skin, as does StreetKid Ballistar. Both the common population and the noble-born knights have a wide variety of skin and hair colors. All of them seem to be from the same kingdom with no distinctions.
[[AC: WesternAnimation]]
* WesternAnimation/HighGuardianSpice: The characters do have ''fantasy'' races (such as elf, dwarf, etc)
* WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse: Race exists as normal for the human characters (Luz is hispanic, for instance), but among the witches of the Boiling Isles, there is no apparent distinction.
no: avatar, steven universe
------
old fashioned women's underwear, often used for comedic effect
DoWeHaveThisOne?
DistaffCopunterpart to Goofy Print Boxers
* MinnieMouse
* The weird one from sword in the stone
* punpkin pants SoulEater
* clotheline scene from Frozen
* clothesline American Tail
* Little Archie/ Veronica
----
------
Aloof Asexual
*
Childish Asexual
The other common portrayl of Asexal characers,
* Luffy
* Spongebob
------
Is actually a genre
* HistoricalFiction
* SuperheroStories
Not great
theme with strong connections (?)
representation etc
* MechaShow
* BlindnessInMedia
* SpaceStories
* ClownMedia
* GangsterFiction
* SeaStories
* CanineFiction
* MilitaryAndWarfareWorks
* TrollTales
* AutismInMedia
* BugWorks
* MysteryFiction
* LatinoAmericanMedia
* AngelWorks
* ElfWorks
* FairyFiction
* FelineFiction
* GoblinWorks
* PacificIslandersInMedia
* CrossoverWorks
* WorksSetInWorldWarI
* MutantMedia
* YoukaiWorks
* GovernmentProcedural
* [[TheWestern Works Set in the Wild West]]
* SupernaturalFiction
* ZombieStories
* ImmortalityWorks
* TimeTravelTales
* QueerMedia
* DinosaurMedia
* PsychicStories
* MummyMedia
* ToyTales
* MermaidMedia
* AfricanAmericanMedia
* CookingStories
* VideoGameStories
* NinjaFiction
* [[AncientRome Works Set in Ancient Rome]]
* WitchWorks
* KaijuWorks
* MarsMedia
* ConspiracyThriller
* AlienWorks
* WerewolfWorks
* PoliceProcedural
* TransformationFiction
* BovineFiction
* DetectiveDrama
* [[{{Jidaigeki}} Works Set in Feudal Japan]]
* PirateStories
* DemonWorks
* GhostFiction
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* Fully correct: exagerated pear figure, with a clear silhouette '''12 characters, 28%'''
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* Fully correct: exagerated exaggerated pear figure, with a clear silhouette '''12 characters, 28%'''
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Lack of Shame/ Immune to Embarrassment
A character who is perfectly nonchalant, or even ''[[InappropriatePride proud]]'', about things most people would consider shameful or humiliating. Rather than trying to downplay the awkwardness, or preserve whatever dignity they can, this character takes the situation and runs with it.
A common tactic of TheGadfly or a GuileHero, who may be able to weaponize their lack of embarrassment by using strategies others would be too prideful to attempt, such as [[AintTooProudToBeg begging for mercy]] or using an EmbarrassingCoverUp. Demand they KneelBeforeZod? They throw themself on the ground and begin wailing and sobbing dramatically. Try to force them into a ShamefulStrip? Not likely-- they're going to start doing a strip tease, complete with music. Basically, you can't shame someone if they lack any dignity to begin with. Characters who do this may also have an AwesomeEgo.
Some common ways of doing this include:
* BlackmailBackfire: preemptively announcing their embarrassing secrets, rather than letting someone else try to use them against them.
* AintTooProudToBeg
* RefugeInAudacity, if the audacious thing is also particularly humiliating
* GayBravado
* BavarianFireDrill
* TheMadHatter: unashamed of being crazy
* ShamelessFanserviceGirl
* RealMenWearPink
* FullFrontalAssault: As an aversion of DefeatByModesty
* CoitusUninterruptus
Its common for characters to be extremely confident about some embarrassing things, but have much more fragile dignity in others. For example, manly characters may be unashamed of being gross or weird, but get embarrassed by being seen as feminine. Meanwhile, AgentPeacock may be confidently feminine, but would be humiliated to be seem as weak or incompetent.
Contrast InferioritySuperiorityComplex, EmbarrassmentIndex, and BreakTheHaughty
A character who is perfectly nonchalant, or even ''[[InappropriatePride proud]]'', about things most people would consider shameful or humiliating. Rather than trying to downplay the awkwardness, or preserve whatever dignity they can, this character takes the situation and runs with it.
A common tactic of TheGadfly or a GuileHero, who may be able to weaponize their lack of embarrassment by using strategies others would be too prideful to attempt, such as [[AintTooProudToBeg begging for mercy]] or using an EmbarrassingCoverUp. Demand they KneelBeforeZod? They throw themself on the ground and begin wailing and sobbing dramatically. Try to force them into a ShamefulStrip? Not likely-- they're going to start doing a strip tease, complete with music. Basically, you can't shame someone if they lack any dignity to begin with. Characters who do this may also have an AwesomeEgo.
Some common ways of doing this include:
* BlackmailBackfire: preemptively announcing their embarrassing secrets, rather than letting someone else try to use them against them.
* AintTooProudToBeg
* RefugeInAudacity, if the audacious thing is also particularly humiliating
* GayBravado
* BavarianFireDrill
* TheMadHatter: unashamed of being crazy
* ShamelessFanserviceGirl
* RealMenWearPink
* FullFrontalAssault: As an aversion of DefeatByModesty
* CoitusUninterruptus
Its common for characters to be extremely confident about some embarrassing things, but have much more fragile dignity in others. For example, manly characters may be unashamed of being gross or weird, but get embarrassed by being seen as feminine. Meanwhile, AgentPeacock may be confidently feminine, but would be humiliated to be seem as weak or incompetent.
Contrast InferioritySuperiorityComplex, EmbarrassmentIndex, and BreakTheHaughty
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A character who is perfectly nonchalant, or even ''[[InappropriatePride proud]]'', about things most people would consider shameful or humiliating. Rather than trying to downplay the awkwardness, or preserve whatever dignity they can, this character takes the situation
A common tactic
* Characters/TimeSquad zce
* WesternAnimation/SkippyAdventuresInBushtown* HartmanHips: Skippy and Matilda have these. (Justified, on account of
* Characters/ImperiumNova* HartmanHips: CHILDREARING HIPS!
* Characters/CorpseBride * HartmanHips: One of
* Characters/TheCave zce
* VideoGame/HercsAdventures * HartmanHips: Atlanta and
Some common ways of doing this include:
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* DarthWiki/PROTOCOL: * HartmanHips: A male example.
* Fanfic/HangingTenSaga* HartmanHips: Most of the girls in the series have them.
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* Characters/Gorillaz * HartmanHips: Seems to have been given these in Phase 4, making him a rare male example of this trope. Interviews have revealed that he actually refers to the
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* BavarianFireDrill
* TheMadHatter: unashamed
* ShamelessFanserviceGirl
* RealMenWearPink
* FullFrontalAssault: As an aversion of DefeatByModesty
* CoitusUninterruptus
Its common for
* WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTheMovie1986 %%* HartmanHips: Draggle, here and in the series sequel.
* Characters/PepperAnn HartmanHips: A rare overweight example.
* Characters/Miitopia FairySexy: [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]]. The Eldest Fab Fairy has HartmanHips and thigh-highs with a garter,
* PopularWithFurries/WesternAnimation Kitty is especially popular for her tight leather clothing and HartmanHips (fitting, considering the show's creator), though slowly taking her over in popularity is her own mother: "Mrs. Katswell", because... well, she's [[StacysMom Kitty's mother]] and already seems a bit curvy
* WesternAnimation/InjunTrouble1969 HartmanHips: The sultry attractive squaw that asks Cool Cat to "Indian wrestle" has these.
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* Fanfic/ReversalOfFortuneTLH * HartmanHips: Lori is described as having wide hips and large butt in chapter 13.
* Characters/GadgetBoyAndHeather Hartman Hips: She's very bottom heavy.
* Characters/CanadasDragRaceSeason2* ImpossibleHourglassFigure: Her SignatureStyle always includes a boldly projecting cleavage, a cinched waist and exaggerated HartmanHips, in celebration, she tells us, of her black heritage.
* Characters/TrigunStampede * FanservicePack: While conservatively dressed, and very 90s in her original appearance in the anime and manga, her updated appearance has her being [[HartmanHips wide hipped]] and very busty, giving her a pronounced but still [[RealityIsUnrealistic plausible]] hourglass figure.
* Characters/AsToldByGinger * HartmanHips: Mrs. Patterson very wide hips and a heavy bottom with a thin body.
* Characters/OpenSeason* HartmanHips: Giselle has a noticeably large butt.
* Characters/XiaolinShowdownTheHeylin * HartmanHips: As the oldest of the recurring female characters, she has a big butt and very wide hips.
* Characters/EdensZeroDemonKingsFourShiningStars * HartmanHips: She has quite a noticeable pair of hips despite her petite body type.
* WMG/FIsForFamily Not factoring in her Hartman Hips, Sue seems much bigger than a normal pregnant woman.
* Characters/TheLoudHouseKids Hartman Hips: She seems to sport these, as they are far more prominent compared to that of most of the other girls her age.
* Characters/CyberpunkEdgerunnersMainCharacters* MsFanservice: With a slender and [[HartmanHips curved]] figure, a pretty large bust, and a white-haired SciFiBobHaircut, Lucy is a ''gorgeous'' character, and one who was clearly designed to appeal to viewers who are attracted to women. It is also not uncommon to see her naked as she prefers ice-filled tubs to keep her cool while in cyberspace over suits.
* Characters/StevenUniverseBlueDiamond HartmanHips: The cinch at her waist gives her a set of these, most noticeable during [[Recap/StevenUniverseS5E26TogetherAlone "Together Alone"]] when she sashays side-to-side as she enters the ballroom.
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* Characters/ThatTimeIGotReincarnatedAsASlimeDemonLords Hartman Hips: Her Stripperific outfit leaves almost nothing to the imagination, and the light novel and anime frequently emphasize her hips in contrast to her otherwise petite and svelte form◊. An official illustration◊ was made of Milim in a Boobs-and-Butt Pose with Rimuru perched on her butt, and even had a statuette made based on it.
* Characters/BigHero6FamilyAndFriends* HartmanHips: Let's just say that if she were to decide to have children of her own, she would be well equipped for it. Seriously, though, [[https://31.media.tumblr.com/5d81c8805951fabcb531c8e0cc633ef2/tumblr_inline_nhfyewmVFS1ql4czj.gif her hips are wider than her shoulders.]]
* Characters/GranblueFantasyDraph* {{Stripperiffic}}: Her outfit leaves very little to the imagination, generously showing off her legs, [[HartmanHips hips]], belly, and [[CleavageWindow chest]].
* Headscratchers/TeenTitansGo Only difference I see between their legs is Raven's looks [[HartmanHips curvier]].
* FoxyVixen ''Anime/DigimonTamers'': Renamon -- Rika's digimon partner -- is a feminine, anthropomorphic kitsune-like fox whose shapely HartmanHips are quite hard for viewers to ignore, and she ([[ShesAManInJapan or an androgynous "he", depending on the dub]]) is occassionally shown to be
* LasciviousBeautyMark ''WesternAnimation/BaltoIIIWingsOfChange'': Stella, Boris's LoveInterest, h
as a notable beauty mark near her beak. Appropriate, considering her rather attractive appearance (she's a goose with NonMammalMammaries and HartmanHips) and her personality as a flirtatious FemmeFatale.
* HartmanHips: Their wardrobe manages to conceal it to a certain extent but all the girls have quite prominent hip parts compared to the rest of their rather petite stature.
* Characters/RubbleAndCrew HartmanHips: Especially in comparison to her sister, Mayor Greatway's hips are surprisingly big, which is notably on display in some scenes, and when she participates the wiggle and wag victory dance with Rubble and his family in some episodes.
** This one ''wouldnt'' be too bad in other context, imo... but this is about
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* Characters/RascalDoesNotDreamOfBunnyGirlSenpai* HartmanHips: According to Sakuta, Tomoe has wide hips. She's not too pleased when he points that out. For example,
* Recap/StevenUniverse InnocentlyInsensitive: Steven says his dad's oversized golf pants [[HartmanHips could probably fit on Garnet]]. Pearl and Amethyst both catch themselves before they laugh.
* WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitchTheSeries: * ComicallyOversizedButt: Cannonball has a large, robust behind that is so heavy that he can cause tidal waves just by jumping into the sea, and the size of his rear end is commented on various times. Lilo even notes that it's bigger than Nani's HartmanHips.
* Manga/SeitokaiYakuindomo * HartmanHips: Shino is concerned because her butt print is bigger than Aria's.
* Fanfic/ValesUndergroundRewrite * HartmanHips: Ruby lampshades this about Harriet when she mentions that Cardin keeps trying to grab her ass.
-->''"Well, there is a lot to grab."''
* Characters/PlanetDolan Hartman Hips: A consistent Running Gag. Exploited to the point that one video has her twerking, while another has Dolan claim her hips are the biggest object in the universe.
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* Funny/HonestTrailers2021Episodes * "Meet the wide variety of
* StuffyOldTropesAboutTheButtocks Hartman Hips: Most female characters with wide hips usually (but not always) have big butts.
* Funny/TheColbertReport -->"And the candles' red glare, don't set fire to your hair. You're getting so old and you're [[HartmanHips shaped like a pear.]]"
* RuleOfSexy Hartman Hips: In reality, the human female body only forms a slight pear shape. (???)
* Characters/HaloSpartanIIIProgram * HartmanHips: If you choose Six's gender as
* Characters/PhantasyStarOnline2ARKSGuardians * HartmanHips: Female characters can have these, and even be
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In addition, because this is an appearance trope, I also looked up the characters when possible, and checked how many actually fit the trope in terms of appearance. I put them in three groups:
* Fully correct: exagerated pear figure, with a clear silhouette '''12 characters, 28%'''
* Curvy: character has a design that emphasizes the hips, but
* Not an Example: character just fully does not have big hips, by any definition. '''14 characters, 32%'''
I was genuinely baffled by some of the characters listed here. All of these characters are seriously listed as
Contrast InferioritySuperiorityComplex, EmbarrassmentIndex,
[[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Renamon_5663.jpg Renamon from Digimon]] (do people not know the difference between thighs and
[[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/9e12d29a_c1ef_402c_b446_c3bd2290ec08.jpeg 2-D from the Gorillaz]] ???
[[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/milim_anime.png This anime girl from That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime]] also ewww that design
[[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/tomoe_52.png This other anime girl]]
[[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mega_man_cartoon_title.jpg Mega-man]]
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Demand they KneelBeforeZod? They throw themself on the ground and begin wailing and sobbing dramatically. Try to force them into a ShamefulStrip? Not likely-- they're going to start doing a strip tease, complete with music. Basically, you can't shame someone if they lack any dignity to begin with. Characters who do this may also have an AwesomeEgo.
A common tactic of TheGadfly or a GuileHero, who may be able to weaponize their lack of embarrassment by using strategies others would be too prideful to attempt, such as [[AintTooProudToBeg begging for mercy]] or using an EmbarrassingCoverUp.
A common tactic of TheGadfly or a GuileHero, who may be able to weaponize their lack of embarrassment by using strategies others would be too prideful to attempt, such as [[AintTooProudToBeg begging for mercy]] or using an EmbarrassingCoverUp.
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* RefugeInAudacityRefugeInAudacity, if the audacious thing is also particularly humiliating
* TheMadHatter: unashamed of being crazy
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* Series/{{Misfits}}: Basically the defining character trait for Nathan (and his SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute Rudy in season 3). He constantly, cheerfully spouts embarrassing stories about himself, some true, some not.
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* Webcomics/TwoGuysAndGuy: Frank is a deadpan version of this-- its not obvious at first, but he's entirely unconcerned with what other people think of him. He remains perfectly calm no matter what anyone does to him or how awkward the situation-- which may have something to do with him being a complete sociopath.
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A character who is perfectly nonchalant, or even ''[[InappropriatePride proud]]'', of about things most people would consider shameful or humiliating. Rather than trying to downplay the awkwardness, or preserve whatever dignity they can, this character takes the situation and runs with it.
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A character who is perfectly nonchalant, or even ''[[InappropriatePride proud]]'', of things most people would consider shameful or humiliating. Rather than trying to hide downplay the situation, awkwardness, or preserve whatever dignity they can, this character takes the situation and runs with it.
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* Literature/{{Animorphs}}: In one book, Marco and Cassie are captured by aliens, who demand that they KneelBeforeZod. Marco throws himself into the role, lying on the floor and spending several minutes melodramatically declaring how much he is groveling before their magnificence.
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Demand they KneelBeforeZod? They throw themself on the ground and begin wailing and sobbing dramatically. Try to force them into a ShamefulStrip? Not likely-- they're going to start doing a strip tease, complete with music. Basically, you can't shame someone if they feel no shame. Characters who do this may also have an AwesomeEgo.
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Demand they KneelBeforeZod? They throw themself on the ground and begin wailing and sobbing dramatically. Try to force them into a ShamefulStrip? Not likely-- they're going to start doing a strip tease, complete with music. Basically, you can't shame someone if they feel no shame.lack any dignity to begin with. Characters who do this may also have an AwesomeEgo.
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A character who is perfectly nonchalant, or even ''[[InappropriatePride proud]]'' proud]]'', of something most people would consider shameful or humiliating. Rather than trying to hide the situation, or preserve whatever dignity they can, this character takes the situation and runs with it.
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A character who is confidently nonchalant, or even ''[[InappropriatePride proud]]'' of something most people would consider shameful or humiliating. Rather than trying to hide the situation, or preserve whatever dignity they can, this character takes the situation and runs with it.
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A character who is confidently perfectly nonchalant, or even ''[[InappropriatePride proud]]'' of something most people would consider shameful or humiliating. Rather than trying to hide the situation, or preserve whatever dignity they can, this character takes the situation and runs with it.
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A character who is confidently nonchalant, or even [[InappropriatePride ''proud'']] ''[[InappropriatePride proud]]'' of something most people would consider shameful or humiliating. Rather than trying to hide the situation, or preserve whatever dignity they can, this character takes the situation and runs with it.
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A character who is cheerfully blasé, or even [[InappropriatePride ''proud'']] of something most people would consider shameful or humiliating. Rather than trying to hide the situation, or preserve whatever dignity they can, this character takes the situation and runs with it.
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A character who is cheerfully blasé, confidently nonchalant, or even [[InappropriatePride ''proud'']] of something most people would consider shameful or humiliating. Rather than trying to hide the situation, or preserve whatever dignity they can, this character takes the situation and runs with it.
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Rather than trying to downplay or hide something which most people would consider shameful or humiliating, this character takes the situation and runs with it. Basically, you can't shame someone if they feel no shame. Characters who do this may also have an AwesomeEgo.
A common tactic of TheGadfly or a GuileHero, who may be able to weaponize their lack of embarrassment by using strategies others would be too prideful to attempt, such as [[AintTooProudToBeg begging for mercy]] or using an EmbarrassingCoverUp. Demand they KneelBeforeZod? They throw themself on the ground and begin wailing and sobbing dramatically. Try to force them into a ShamefulStrip? Not likely-- they're going to start doing a strip tease, complete with music.
A common tactic of TheGadfly or a GuileHero, who may be able to weaponize their lack of embarrassment by using strategies others would be too prideful to attempt, such as [[AintTooProudToBeg begging for mercy]] or using an EmbarrassingCoverUp. Demand they KneelBeforeZod? They throw themself on the ground and begin wailing and sobbing dramatically. Try to force them into a ShamefulStrip? Not likely-- they're going to start doing a strip tease, complete with music.
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Demand they KneelBeforeZod? They throw themself on the ground and begin wailing and sobbing dramatically. Try to force them into a ShamefulStrip? Not likely-- they're going to start doing a strip tease, complete with music. Basically, you can't shame someone if they feel no shame. Characters who do this may also have an AwesomeEgo.
A common tactic of TheGadfly or a GuileHero, who may be able to weaponize their lack of embarrassment by using strategies others would be too prideful to attempt, such as [[AintTooProudToBeg begging for mercy]] or using an EmbarrassingCoverUp.
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Something which most people would find humiliating or shameful-- but not this guy. They take the "shameful" situation and run with it. Demand they KneelBeforeZod? They throw themself on the ground and begin wailing and sobbing dramatically. Try to force them into a ShamefulStrip? Not likely-- they're going to start doing a strip tease, complete with music. Basically, you can't shame someone if they feel no shame. Some characters may even invoke this deliberately, preemptively announcing their embarrassing secrets and owning them, rather than letting someone else try to use them against them.
Its common for characters to be extremely confident about some embarrassing things, but have much more fragile dignity in others. For example, manly characters may be unashamed of being gross or weird, but get embarrassed by being seen as feminine. Meanwhile, AgentPeacock may be confidently feminine, but would be humiliated to be seem as weak or incompetent.
A common tactic of TheGadfly or a GuileHero, who may be able to weaponize their lack of embarrassment by using strategies others would be too prideful to attempt, such as [[AintTooProudToBeg begging for mercy]] or using an EmbarrassingCoverUp. Characters who do this may also have an AwesomeEgo.
Contrast InferioritySuperiorityComplex, EmbarrassmentIndex, and BreakTheHaughty
Subtropes or common ways of doing this:
Its common for characters to be extremely confident about some embarrassing things, but have much more fragile dignity in others. For example, manly characters may be unashamed of being gross or weird, but get embarrassed by being seen as feminine. Meanwhile, AgentPeacock may be confidently feminine, but would be humiliated to be seem as weak or incompetent.
A common tactic of TheGadfly or a GuileHero, who may be able to weaponize their lack of embarrassment by using strategies others would be too prideful to attempt, such as [[AintTooProudToBeg begging for mercy]] or using an EmbarrassingCoverUp. Characters who do this may also have an AwesomeEgo.
Contrast InferioritySuperiorityComplex, EmbarrassmentIndex, and BreakTheHaughty
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Its common for characters to be extremely confident about some embarrassing things, but
A common tactic of TheGadfly or a GuileHero, who may be able to weaponize their lack of embarrassment by using strategies others would be too prideful to attempt, such as [[AintTooProudToBeg begging for mercy]] or using an EmbarrassingCoverUp.
Contrast InferioritySuperiorityComplex, EmbarrassmentIndex,
Subtropes or
Some common ways of doing
* BlackmailBackfire: preemptively announcing their embarrassing secrets, rather than letting someone else try to use them against them.
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Its common for characters to be extremely confident about some embarrassing things, but have much more fragile dignity in others. For example, manly characters may be unashamed of being gross or weird, but get embarrassed by being seen as feminine. Meanwhile, AgentPeacock may be confidently feminine, but would be humiliated to be seem as weak or incompetent.
Contrast InferioritySuperiorityComplex, EmbarrassmentIndex, and BreakTheHaughty
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