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** Each of them has a role in causing John's eventual death. John's inability to get his cancer treated was caused by Logan inadvertently mixing up John's head x-ray with another patient's while he was working as an intern of the Angel of Mercy Hospital, while Hoffman deliberately manipulated the events at the Gideon Meatpacking Plant across ''Saw III'' and ''IV'' to get both John and Amanda killed, so he would no longer be stuck under John's thumb.
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** Each of them has a role in causing John's eventual death. John's inability to get his cancer treated was caused by Logan inadvertently mixing up John's head x-ray with another patient's while he was working as an intern of the Angel of Mercy Hospital, while Hoffman deliberately manipulated manipulates the events at the Gideon Meatpacking Plant across ''Saw III'' and ''IV'' to get both John and Amanda killed, so he would no longer be stuck under John's thumb.
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* WhamLine: Hoffman gets two of them in ''Saw VI'':
** Not so much the line as Hoffman being the one who delivers it once the voice on Seth Baxter's tape is decoded in front of Perez and Erickson.
--->'''Hoffman:''' Right now, you're feeling helpless.
** Just after the FBI tech lab scene, Hoffman finds the document Pamela had previously given to Jill in his watchroom's desk, at which we find out it was the letter Amanda read back in ''Film/SawIII''. The ensuing flashback montage has a voice-over of the letter's text in Hoffman's voice.
--->''"Amanda-- you were with Cecil the night Jill lost Gideon. You killed their child. You know it, and I know it. So do exactly as I say; kill Lynn Denlon, or I will tell John what you did."''
* WhamShot: He provides a couple of them.
** In the climax of ''Saw IV'', Hoffman is seemingly electrocuted when the water from the melting ice block that Eric was standing on reaches the electrified chair Hoffman was restrained to. Immediately after Rigg plays Art's tape, Hoffman is seen standing up and walking from the background behind Rigg, without any signs of having been actually electrocuted.
*** In the film's theatrical cut, this moment is changed to an additional shot exclusive to this version, in which Hoffman is seen untying the chair's fake restraints.
** ''Saw VI'' doubles this with a WhamLine (via voiceover). When Hoffman leaves the FBI's tech lab and returns to his watchroom for William Easton's trial, he's shocked to find the letter in ''Saw III'' that caused Amanda's VillainousBreakdown, at which we finally see what exactly was written in it; it was a blackmail note, written by Hoffman.
** Not so much the line as Hoffman being the one who delivers it once the voice on Seth Baxter's tape is decoded in front of Perez and Erickson.
--->'''Hoffman:''' Right now, you're feeling helpless.
** Just after the FBI tech lab scene, Hoffman finds the document Pamela had previously given to Jill in his watchroom's desk, at which we find out it was the letter Amanda read back in ''Film/SawIII''. The ensuing flashback montage has a voice-over of the letter's text in Hoffman's voice.
--->''"Amanda-- you were with Cecil the night Jill lost Gideon. You killed their child. You know it, and I know it. So do exactly as I say; kill Lynn Denlon, or I will tell John what you did."''
* WhamShot: He provides a couple of them.
** In the climax of ''Saw IV'', Hoffman is seemingly electrocuted when the water from the melting ice block that Eric was standing on reaches the electrified chair Hoffman was restrained to. Immediately after Rigg plays Art's tape, Hoffman is seen standing up and walking from the background behind Rigg, without any signs of having been actually electrocuted.
*** In the film's theatrical cut, this moment is changed to an additional shot exclusive to this version, in which Hoffman is seen untying the chair's fake restraints.
** ''Saw VI'' doubles this with a WhamLine (via voiceover). When Hoffman leaves the FBI's tech lab and returns to his watchroom for William Easton's trial, he's shocked to find the letter in ''Saw III'' that caused Amanda's VillainousBreakdown, at which we finally see what exactly was written in it; it was a blackmail note, written by Hoffman.
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** Both men are presented as some of John's first attempts at recruiting apprentices to his cause, have a background in government-associated defense (Logan as a medical examiner and former member of the US military, and Hoffman as a police officer), and act as TheHeavy during their respective tenures under John, being physically-imposing men with fairly decent strength and a knowledge of self-defense and weapons usage.
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** Both men Hoffman and Logan are presented as some of John's first attempts at recruiting apprentices to his cause, have a background in government-associated defense (Logan as a medical examiner and former member of the US military, and Hoffman as a police officer), and act as TheHeavy during their respective tenures under John, being physically-imposing men with fairly decent strength and a knowledge of self-defense and weapons usage.
