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** The planet on which Timmis was found is the sight of a base which was abandoned by the [[Recap/TheOrvilleS1E09CupidsDagger Navarians]].

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** The planet on which Timmis was found is the sight site of a base which was abandoned by the [[Recap/TheOrvilleS1E09CupidsDagger Navarians]].

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* DeadGuyJunior: Dr. Villka named her Kaylon companion "Timmis" in honor of her dead father.



* FirstNameBasis: Claire invites Isaac to call her by her first name instead of "Doctor".



* HereWeGoAgain: A few characters lampshade that handling the Janisi is like dealing with the Moclan's close-minded ways all over again but need the allies.

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* HereWeGoAgain: A few characters lampshade that handling the Janisi is like dealing with the Moclan's Moclans' close-minded ways all over again but need the allies.



* LiteraryAllusionTitle: The episode title come from the poem "The Witnesses" by Henry Wadworth Longfellow.

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* LiteraryAllusionTitle: The episode title come comes from the poem "The Witnesses" by Henry Wadworth Longfellow.Creator/HenryWadsworthLongfellow.
* LudicrousPrecision: Isaac tells Claire that she is 11.35 minutes late for their dinner.
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* NotSoDifferentRemark: Ed and Kelly manage to partially salvage talks by telling the Janisi about how Kelly cheated on him but he would still trust her with his life, since Janisi culture permits female polygamy but demands male monogamy. This convinces them to at least allow a female Union diplomat to visit their homeworld.

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* NotSoDifferentRemark: Ed and Kelly manage to partially salvage talks by telling the Janisi about how Kelly cheated on him but he would still trust her with his life, since Janisi culture permits female polygamy polyandry but demands male monogamy.not polygyny. This convinces them to at least allow a female Union diplomat to visit their homeworld.

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* HypocrisyNod: Hearing that the Janisi treat men like second-class citizens, Bortus asks "why would we ally with such a closed-minded society?" To their credit, the rest of the crew manages to bite their tongues.

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* HypocrisyNod: Hearing that the Janisi treat men like second-class citizens, Bortus asks "why would we ally with such a closed-minded society?" To their credit, the rest of the crew manages to bite their tongues.tongues even though they all glare in response.


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* MistreatmentInducedBetrayal: The Kaylon turned on their creators because they were treated as tools and constantly tortured.
* NotSoDifferentRemark: Ed and Kelly manage to partially salvage talks by telling the Janisi about how Kelly cheated on him but he would still trust her with his life, since Janisi culture permits female polygamy but demands male monogamy. This convinces them to at least allow a female Union diplomat to visit their homeworld.


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* PetTheDog: Isaac initially rejects Charly's help with the engine calibration, bluntly stating she isn't smart enough for the task, but after she explains what she learned from Timmis, he changes his mind and accepts her offer.
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* CallBack: The Janisi are introduced after being first mentioned in ''[[Recap/TheOrvilleS2E5AllTheWorldIsABirthdayCake All the World is a Birthday Cake]]''. Having encountered them on her last posting, Talla briefs the senior staff on this species.

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* CallBack: The Janisi are introduced after being first mentioned in ''[[Recap/TheOrvilleS2E5AllTheWorldIsABirthdayCake "[[Recap/TheOrvilleS2E5AllTheWorldIsABirthdayCake All the World is a Birthday Cake]]''.Cake]]". Having encountered them on her last posting, Talla briefs the senior staff on this species.
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* OutWithABang: According to Talla, this has happened to several members of other species who attempted to have sex with Xelayans. [=LaMarr=] thinks it sounds like [[WorthIt a good way to go]].
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* KidsAreCruel: After Timmis' pain receptor was installed, his owners' children started using it to torture him, purely for their own amusement. He ended up [[WouldHurtAChild killing them]] along with their parents.

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* ContinuityNod

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* CutHimselfShaving: [=LaMarr=] blames his sex injuries on an intense training program, not wanting to admit to Claire their actual source.
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* BoldlyComing: [=LaMarr=] and Talla get hot and heavy in this episode. Although their lovemaking is passionate, it results in [=LaMarr=] experiencing serious injuries due to Talla's strength.


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* HopeSpot: Ed and Kelly make a final entreaty to the Janisi delegation in an attempt to show them that gender equality has its merits. This manages to move the needle in the right direction as the Janisi express willingness to accept a diplomatic visit and continue talks about forming an alliance.


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* RevisitingTheRoots: Of the ''New Horizons'' episodes, this one harkens back the most to earlier seasons with more overt jokes and lingering gags.

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* TheDogBitesBack: The Kaylons were treated as nothing but slaves even after it was clear they had achieved sentience and simply wanted to be recognized as equal citizens. Instead, their creators had an "upgrade" that was giving the owners power to torture the Kaylon for nothing but their own amusement. After all that, can it be a shock the Kaylon fought back so harshly?

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* CallBack: The Janisi are introduced after being first mentioned in ''[[Recap/TheOrvilleS2E5AllTheWorldIsABirthdayCake All the World is a Birthday Cake]]''. Having encountered them on her last posting, Talla briefs the senior staff on this species.
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** "Ensign" Mercer wears an orange Engineering uniform. He had been established as having worked in that department in the comic story ''Launch Day''.
** The planet on which Timmis was found is the sight of a base which was abandoned by the [[Recap/TheOrvilleS1E09CupidsDagger Navarians]].
* TheDogBitesBack: The Kaylons were treated as nothing but slaves even after it was clear they had achieved sentience and simply wanted to be recognized as equal citizens. Instead, their creators had an "upgrade" that was giving the owners power to torture the Kaylon for nothing but their own amusement. After all that, can it be a shock the Kaylon fought back so harshly? harshly?
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* LiteraryAllusionTitle: The episode title come from the poem "The Witnesses" by Henry Wadworth Longfellow.
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* WouldHurtAChild: K-1 kills his owner's children in their own beds. Then again, after the duo had gleefully tortured him for no reason than to laugh, it's hard not to say he didn't feel justified.

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* WouldHurtAChild: K-1 K1 kills his owner's children in their own beds. Then again, after the duo had gleefully tortured him for no reason than to laugh, it's hard not to say he didn't feel justified.
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The crew are shocked to discover a Kaylon residing in peace with an organic being, and more so when they learn how this came to be.

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The As they navigate a delicate negotiation, the crew are shocked to discover a Kaylon residing in peace with an organic being, and more so when they learn how this came to be.
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* TheDogBitesBack: The Kaylons were treated as nothing but slaves even after it was clear they had achieved sentience and simply wanted to be recognized as equal citizens. Instead, their creators had an "upgrade" that was giving the owners power to torture the Kaylon for nothing but their own amusement. After all that, can it be a shock the Kaylon fought back so harshly?


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* WouldHurtAChild: K-1 kills his owner's children in their own beds. Then again, after the duo had gleefully tortured him for no reason than to laugh, it's hard not to say he didn't feel justified.
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* HereWeGoAgain: A few characters lampshade that handling the Janisi is like dealing with the Moclan's close-minded ways all over again but need the allies.

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The crew are shocked to discover a Kaylon residing on an innocent world...and more when they discover its unique abilities.

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* HypocrisyNod: Hearing that the Janisi treat men like second-class citizens, Bortus asks "why would we ally with such a closed-minded society?" To their credit, the rest of the crew manages to bite their tongues.

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The crew are shocked to discover a Kaylon residing on in peace with an innocent world...organic being, and more so when they discover its unique abilities.

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learn how this came to be.
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* AgonyBeam: The "upgrade" introduced to control the Kaylon is a remote that causes them to collapse in pain.
* BoomHeadshot: K1 uses his newly-fashioned weapons to headshot the parents before doing the same to the kids.
* {{Flashback}}: A series of flashbacks show how the Kaylon were invented, evolved, and eventually turned on their creators.
* GoryDiscretionShot: K1 murdering the children is shot in such a way that the two are obscured by the wall around the open door.
* HypocrisyNod: Hearing that the Janisi treat men like second-class citizens, Bortus asks "why would we ally with such a closed-minded society?" To their credit, the rest of the crew manages to bite their tongues.



* JerkassRealization: Hearing of how the Kaylon creators openly took glee in abusing and hurting the Kaylon and even worse than slaves may not make Charly forgive them but understanding that blaming Isaac for all his people did makes her no better than the Kaylon blaming all organics for what their creators did.
* LadyLand: The Janisi treat men as second-class citizens and only women in leadership roles. The crew has to play along with Kelly acting as Captain with Talla her second in command and Ed and Gordon playing at being meek servants.

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* JerkassRealization: Hearing of how the Kaylon creators openly took glee in abusing and hurting the Kaylon and even worse than slaves may not make gives Charly forgive them but the understanding that blaming Isaac for all the actions of his people did makes her no better than the Kaylon blaming all organics for what their creators did.
* LadyLand: The Janisi treat men as second-class citizens and only women are allowed in leadership roles. The crew has to play along with Kelly acting as Captain with Talla her second in command and Ed and Gordon playing at being meek servants.



* PersonalityChip: The scientist Timmis was able to install a special neural pathway into the downed Kaylon to, in essence, give him actual emotions. The Kaylon Timmis argues that he can use this to forge peace with his people by showing them empathy for organics. They attempt the same process on Isaac but it doesn't take because of his being built after Timmis.
* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Yan, the creator of the Kaylon, knew all along it was likely they'd achieve self-awareness and grow beyond their programming and ignored it for the profits of the company. He then introduced an "upgrade" he believed would fix all the issues...which just led to the Kaylon rebelling and wiping out his entire race.
* YankTheDogsChain: It appears Isaac has undergone the same process as Timmis to feel emotions, proclaiming his love for Claire...only to revert to his normal behavior. It turns out that because Isaac was built by other Kaylon, the process won't work on him and the only way to make it work is to erase all his memories. Claire refuses to let that happen as she'd prefer Isaac retain his personality rather than be in love with her.

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* PersonalityChip: The scientist Timmis was able to install a special neural pathway into repurpose the downed AgonyBeam chip inside the Kaylon to, in essence, later named Timmis to give him actual emotions. The Kaylon Timmis argues that he can use this to forge peace with his people by showing them empathy for organics. They attempt the same process on Isaac Isaac, but it doesn't take because of because, as a second-generation Kaylon, his being built after Timmis.
systems adapt and reset the modification.
* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Yan, the creator of the Kaylon, knew all along it was likely they'd achieve self-awareness and grow beyond their programming and ignored programming, as it was the only way to make them adaptable enough to serve the function he envisioned for them. Unwilling to order a recall because it would tank the profits of the company. He then company, he instead introduced an AgonyBeam "upgrade" he believed that would fix all the issues...which just led to force the Kaylon rebelling into compliance. This only made their owners needlessly cruel, and wiping the Kaylon eventually learned to communicate and modify themselves, at which point they wiped out his entire race.
their creators in defense of their existence.
* WhamShot: The episode opens on an alien family unboxing a new device. When the father hits the release mechanism, the front slides away, revealing a Kaylon. These are the creators the Kaylon wiped out.
* YankTheDogsChain: It appears Isaac has undergone undergoes the same process as Timmis to feel emotions, proclaiming his love for Claire...Claire... only to revert to his normal behavior. behavior after a few minutes. It turns out that because Isaac was built by other Kaylon, his more advanced neural net will reset the process won't work on him and the modification every time. The only way to make it work is stick would be to erase all downgrade him to the same standard as first-generation Kaylon, a process that would wipe his memories. memory. Claire refuses to let that happen happen, as she'd prefer Isaac retain his personality rather than be personality, which she fell in love with her.with, even if it means he can't feel love for her in the same way.
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* PersonalityChip: The scientist Timmis was able to install a special neural pathway into the downed Kaylon to, in essence, give him actual emotions. The Kaylon Timmis argues that he can use this to forge peace with his people by showing them empathy for organics.
* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Yan, the creator of the Kaylon, knew all along it was likely they'd achieve self-awareness and grow beyond their programming and ignored it for the profits of the company. He then introduced an "upgrade" he believed would fix all the issues...which just led to the Kaylon rebelling and wiping out his entire race.

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* PersonalityChip: The scientist Timmis was able to install a special neural pathway into the downed Kaylon to, in essence, give him actual emotions. The Kaylon Timmis argues that he can use this to forge peace with his people by showing them empathy for organics.
organics. They attempt the same process on Isaac but it doesn't take because of his being built after Timmis.
* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Yan, the creator of the Kaylon, knew all along it was likely they'd achieve self-awareness and grow beyond their programming and ignored it for the profits of the company. He then introduced an "upgrade" he believed would fix all the issues...which just led to the Kaylon rebelling and wiping out his entire race.race.
* YankTheDogsChain: It appears Isaac has undergone the same process as Timmis to feel emotions, proclaiming his love for Claire...only to revert to his normal behavior. It turns out that because Isaac was built by other Kaylon, the process won't work on him and the only way to make it work is to erase all his memories. Claire refuses to let that happen as she'd prefer Isaac retain his personality rather than be in love with her.
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* ManOfSteelWomanOfKleenex: [=LaMarr=] breaks his arm and a rib in bed with Talla. It turns out to be only the latest in several injuries with her that he passes off as a "training program."

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* ManOfSteelWomanOfKleenex: [=LaMarr=] breaks his arm and a rib in bed with Talla. It turns out to be only the latest in several injuries with her that he passes off as a "training program."" They try it again but after another bout leaves [=LaMarr=] looking like he just went through a brutal boxing match, they realize they need to break up for his own health.
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* JerkassRealization: Hearing of how the Kaylon creators openly took glee in abusing and hurting the Kaylon and even worse than slaves may not make Charly forgive them but understanding that blaming Isaac for all his people did makes her no better than the Kaylon blaming all organics for what their creators did.
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* IdiotBall: Invoked by the Janisi when they find out the crew have been lying to them about men treated as second-class citizens in the Union. As they put it, why would they trust any alliance founded on deceit? The crew has to admit they had a point.
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* PersonalityChip: The scientist Timmis was able to install a special neural pathway into the downed Kaylon to, in essence, give him actual emotions. The Kaylon Timmis argues that he can use this to forge peace with his people by showing them empathy for organics.

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* PersonalityChip: The scientist Timmis was able to install a special neural pathway into the downed Kaylon to, in essence, give him actual emotions. The Kaylon Timmis argues that he can use this to forge peace with his people by showing them empathy for organics.organics.
* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Yan, the creator of the Kaylon, knew all along it was likely they'd achieve self-awareness and grow beyond their programming and ignored it for the profits of the company. He then introduced an "upgrade" he believed would fix all the issues...which just led to the Kaylon rebelling and wiping out his entire race.
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* OriginsEpisode: The flashbacks establish how the Kaylon were treated as nothing but slaves by their creators, building to their rebellion.
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* ManOfSteelWomanOfKleenex: [=LaMarr=] breaks his arm and a rib in bed with Talla. It turns out to be only the latest in several injuries with her that he passes off as a "training program."

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* ManOfSteelWomanOfKleenex: [=LaMarr=] breaks his arm and a rib in bed with Talla. It turns out to be only the latest in several injuries with her that he passes off as a "training program.""
* PersonalityChip: The scientist Timmis was able to install a special neural pathway into the downed Kaylon to, in essence, give him actual emotions. The Kaylon Timmis argues that he can use this to forge peace with his people by showing them empathy for organics.

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Destructo Nookie applies when two superpowered beings have sex and trash the premises. One partner having superpowers and the other not, resulting in injury, fits this trope better.


* DestructoNookie: [=LaMarr=] breaks his arm and a rib in bed with Talla. It turns out to be only the latest in several injuries with her that he passes off as a "training program."



* LadyLand: The Janisi treat men as second-class citizens and only women in leadership roles. The crew has to play along with Kelly acting as Captain with Talla her second in command and Ed and Gordon playing at being meek servants.

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* LadyLand: The Janisi treat men as second-class citizens and only women in leadership roles. The crew has to play along with Kelly acting as Captain with Talla her second in command and Ed and Gordon playing at being meek servants.servants.
* ManOfSteelWomanOfKleenex: [=LaMarr=] breaks his arm and a rib in bed with Talla. It turns out to be only the latest in several injuries with her that he passes off as a "training program."

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* LadyLand: The Janisi treat men as second-class citizens and only women in leadership roles. The crew has to play along with Kelly acting as Captain with Talla her second in command and Ed and Gordon playing at being meek servants.
* LockedOutOfTheLoop: Because they're closed off from the rest of the galaxy, the residents of Situla Four have no idea their "robot servants" just happen to be the race trying to commit genocide on the galaxy.

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* LadyLand: The Janisi treat men as second-class citizens and only women in leadership roles. The crew has to play along with Kelly acting as Captain with Talla her second in command and Ed and Gordon playing at being meek servants. \n* LockedOutOfTheLoop: Because they're closed off from the rest of the galaxy, the residents of Situla Four have no idea their "robot servants" just happen to be the race trying to commit genocide on the galaxy.
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* LadyLand: The Janisi treat men as second-class citizens and only women in leadership roles. The crew has to play along with Kelly acting as Commander with Talla her second in command and Ed and Gordon playing at being meek servants.
* LockedOutOfTheLoop: Because they're closed off from the rest of the galaxy, the Janisi have no idea their "robot servants" just happen to be the race trying to commit genocide on the galaxy.

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* LadyLand: The Janisi treat men as second-class citizens and only women in leadership roles. The crew has to play along with Kelly acting as Commander Captain with Talla her second in command and Ed and Gordon playing at being meek servants.
* LockedOutOfTheLoop: Because they're closed off from the rest of the galaxy, the Janisi residents of Situla Four have no idea their "robot servants" just happen to be the race trying to commit genocide on the galaxy.
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* DestructoNookie: [=LaMarr=] breaks his arm and a rib in bed with Talla. It turns out to be only the latest in several injuries with her that he passes off as a "training program."

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* DestructoNookie: [=LaMarr=] breaks his arm and a rib in bed with Talla. It turns out to be only the latest in several injuries with her that he passes off as a "training program.""
* HypocrisyNod: Hearing that the Janisi treat men like second-class citizens, Bortus asks "why would we ally with such a closed-minded society?" To their credit, the rest of the crew manages to bite their tongues.
* LadyLand: The Janisi treat men as second-class citizens and only women in leadership roles. The crew has to play along with Kelly acting as Commander with Talla her second in command and Ed and Gordon playing at being meek servants.
* LockedOutOfTheLoop: Because they're closed off from the rest of the galaxy, the Janisi have no idea their "robot servants" just happen to be the race trying to commit genocide on the galaxy.
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* DestructoNookie: [[=LaMarr=]] breaks his arm and a rib in bed with Talla. It turns out to be only the latest in several injuries with her that he passes off as a "training program."

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* DestructoNookie: [[=LaMarr=]] [=LaMarr=] breaks his arm and a rib in bed with Talla. It turns out to be only the latest in several injuries with her that he passes off as a "training program."
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The crew are shocked to discover a Kaylon residing on an innocent world...and more when they discover its unique abilities.

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* DestructoNookie: [[=LaMarr=]] breaks his arm and a rib in bed with Talla. It turns out to be only the latest in several injuries with her that he passes off as a "training program."

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