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** Wally and Iris may still be a BrotherAndSisterTeam, but here he is Kid Flash whereas in the Flashpoint comic he's merely a cameraman.

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** Wally and Iris may still be a BrotherAndSisterTeam, BrotherSisterTeam, but here he is Kid Flash whereas in the Flashpoint comic he's merely a cameraman.

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* AdaptationalBadass: In the original ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' storyline, Barry lost his SuperSpeed and HealingFactor. Here, he retains them.
** However, it should be noted that as he used his abilities, he began to lose them, as well as his memories of the previous timeline. If he had not restored the time soon enough, he would have been BroughtDownToNormal.

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* AdaptationalBadass: AdaptationalBadass:
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In the original ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' storyline, Barry lost his SuperSpeed and HealingFactor. Here, he retains them.
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them. However, it should be noted that as he used his abilities, he began to lose them, as well as his memories of the previous timeline. If he had not restored the time soon enough, he would have been BroughtDownToNormal.BroughtDownToNormal.
** Wally and Iris may still be a BrotherAndSisterTeam, but here he is Kid Flash whereas in the Flashpoint comic he's merely a cameraman.



* CrapsaccharineWorld: The "Flashpoint" timeline seems like a nice place but....

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* CrapsaccharineWorld: The "Flashpoint" timeline seems like a nice place place, but....



* ForWantOfANail: The entire episode is centered on the changes that Barry made because of him time traveling.

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* ForWantOfANail: The entire episode is centered on the changes that Barry made because of him time traveling.travel.



* HappyEndingOverride: One that applies to a ''villain'': Thawne succeeds in his goals, however, he finds out he made himself a target for the Speed Force's new agent: the Black Flash. He'll be spending most of ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'' Season 2 running for his life.



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** Eobard repeatedly calls Barry out on his selfish actions, but Barry doesn't pay them any head until he starts losing his speed and memories.
'''Thawne''': ''NOW WHO'S THE VILLAIN FLASH? NOW WHO'S THE VILLAIN?!!!

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** Eobard repeatedly calls Barry out on his selfish actions, but Barry doesn't pay them any head until he starts losing his speed and memories.
'''Thawne''': ''NOW
memories. He then claims that Barry has to let him kill his mother. Barry initially refuses, prompting Thawne to deliver this gem:
-->'''Thawne''': ''[[WhatTheHellHero NOW
WHO'S THE VILLAIN FLASH? FLASH?]] [[WhamLine NOW WHO'S THE VILLAIN?!!!VILLAIN?!!!]]
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'''Thawne''': ''NOW WHO'S THE VILLAIN FLASH? NOW WHO'S THE VILLAIN?!!!
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** However, it should be noted that as he used his abilities, he began to lose them, as well as his memories of the previous timeline. If he had not restored the time soon enough, he would have been BroughtDowntoNormal.

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** However, it should be noted that as he used his abilities, he began to lose them, as well as his memories of the previous timeline. If he had not restored the time soon enough, he would have been BroughtDowntoNormal.BroughtDownToNormal.
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** However, it should be noted that as he used his abilities, he began to lose them, as well as his memories of the previous timeline. If he had not restored the time soon enough, he would have been BroughtDowntoNormal.
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* YankTheDogsChain: Eobard forces Barry to voice the action he needs to do to restore the timeline.
-->'''Barry''': You ''know'' what I need you to do!\\
'''Thawne''': Yeah but I want to hear you say it!\\
'''Barry''': ''(fighting back tears)'' I need you to ''kill my mother!''\\
'''Thawne''': ''(smirking)'' With pleasure!
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* InNameOnly: The Flashpoint timeline has very little in common with the one from the comics.

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* AdaptationalWimp: In the comic, Thawne got a considerable power boost from the chaos caused by all of the time damage and Barry had to"pull the speedforce into himself" to save his mother; here he's locked in a cage until Barry needs his help.

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* AdaptationalWimp: In the comic, Thawne got a considerable power boost from the chaos caused by all of the time damage and Barry had to"pull the speedforce into himself" to save his mother; damage; here he's locked in a cage until Barry needs his help.

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* AdaptationalWimp: In the comic, Thawne got a considerable power boost from the chaos caused by all of the time damage; here he's locked in a cage until Barry needs his help.

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* AdaptationalWimp: In the comic, Thawne got a considerable power boost from the chaos caused by all of the time damage; damage and Barry had to"pull the speedforce into himself" to save his mother; here he's locked in a cage until Barry needs his help.
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* TheWorfEffect: The reason Edward was even able to compete with a Barry/The Flash who has managed to level up to the point of defeating a juiced-up Hunter Zolomon/Zoom, before losing was because Barry was suffering from RippleEffectProofMemory, otherwise the fight would've been a lot shorter.

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* TheWorfEffect: WorfHadTheFlu: The reason Edward was even able to compete with a Barry/The Flash who has managed to level up to the point of defeating a juiced-up Hunter Zolomon/Zoom, before losing was because Barry was suffering from RippleEffectProofMemory, his memories being erased and changing, otherwise the fight would've been a lot shorter.
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* ItsAllAboutMe: Barry was so focused on Iris that he didn't notice that STAR Labs no longer exists, or what happened to his former teammates.

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* ItsAllAboutMe: Barry was so focused on Iris that he didn't notice that STAR Labs no longer exists, or what happened to his former teammates. Though this can be handwaved by how Barry was sucked into the "Flashpoint Illusion".
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* YouCantFightFate: Averted, Barry goes back to save Nora and the Universe actually lets her ''live''. This is in direct contrast to [[Series/LegendsOfTomorrow Rip Hunter's efforts to save his family which all ended in disaster]].
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** Also applies to Thawne himself, as far as whether the events of Season 1 happened differently as it pertained to his killing Harrison Wells or if they played as we say them but with Thawne returning to his own time. If it was the latter, then we can presume the Thawne who dumped Barry at the West's house is the real deal and the one during Season 1 was a time remnant.
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** Just as in [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox the Flashpoint film]], Eobard asks Barry who the villain really is.

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** Just as in [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox the Flashpoint film]], Eobard asks Barry who the villain really is.is while describing what he might have done to the timeline.
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** Just as in [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox the Flashpoint film]], Eobard asks Barry who the villain really is.
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* AlternateTimeline: The entire episode takes place in one, dubbed by Eobard Thawne as "Flashpoint".

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* AlternateTimeline: The entire episode takes place in one, dubbed by Eobard Thawne as "Flashpoint"."Flashpoint."



* BackFromTheDead: Thanks to Barry's extensive time meddling, Thawne is no longer dead he's alive and kicking.

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* BackFromTheDead: Thanks to Barry's extensive time meddling, Thawne is no longer dead he's alive and kicking.



* BaitAndSwitch: Barry finally got the nerve to ask Flashpoint!Iris out, with approval from his superior officer Mendez. Later Barry tells Mendez he has dinner plans in lieu of his police work. Think that it's about his date with Iris? Think again; see GoKartingWithBowser.

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* BaitAndSwitch: Barry finally got the nerve to ask Flashpoint!Iris out, with approval from his superior officer Mendez. Later Barry tells Mendez he has dinner plans in lieu of his police work. Think that it's about his date with Iris? Think again; see GoKartingWithBowser.



* CloseEnoughTimeline: Well ''not'' close enough. For unknown reasons Iris and Joe are estranged in this new timeline. Unfortunately it's implied to be one of ''many'' negative changes thanks to Barry's screwup.

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* CloseEnoughTimeline: Well ''not'' close enough. For unknown reasons Iris and Joe are estranged in this new timeline. Unfortunately it's implied to be one of ''many'' negative changes thanks to Barry's screwup.screw-up.



* ContinuityNod: Cisco tells Iris, Wally, and Barry he does not want to go up against an evil speedster and end up with a [[Recap/TheFlash2014S1E15OutOfTime vibrating]] [[Recap/TheFlash2014S2E13WelcomeToEarthTwo hand]] through his ribcage.

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* ContinuityNod: Cisco tells Iris, Wally, and Barry he does not want to go up against an evil speedster and end up with a [[Recap/TheFlash2014S1E15OutOfTime vibrating]] [[Recap/TheFlash2014S2E13WelcomeToEarthTwo hand]] through his ribcage.rib-cage.



** Wally may the Flash but he's proud, reckless, and inexperienced and for reasons unexplained lacks Barry's substantial healing powers.

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** Wally may the Flash but he's proud, reckless, reckless and inexperienced inexperienced, and for reasons unexplained lacks Barry's substantial healing powers.



* IgnoredExpert: Barry doesn't pay any attention to Thawne's warnings about messing with time since Thawne has done enough time damage on his own.

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* IgnoredExpert: Barry doesn't pay any attention to Thawne's warnings about messing with time time, since Thawne has done enough time damage on his own.



* InnocentlyInsensitive: Barry bringing up Iris unaware of her situation in the new timeline.
* InternalHomage: The fight against the Rival is a huge reference to the very first episode with the fight against Weather Wizard. It's in the same location, tornados are created and Joe shoots the villain from behind. Cisco even calls the Rival ''some kind of Weather Wizard''.

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* InnocentlyInsensitive: Barry bringing up Iris Iris, unaware of her situation in the new timeline.
* InternalHomage: The fight against the Rival is a huge reference to the very first episode with the fight against Weather Wizard. It's in the same location, tornados tornadoes are created and Joe shoots the villain from behind. Cisco even calls the Rival ''some kind of Weather Wizard''.



* KickTheDog: Thawne's second murder of Nora, is even more brutal than his first.

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* KickTheDog: Thawne's second murder of Nora, Nora is even more brutal than his first.



* MagneticHero: Even in a timeline vastly different from the original, Barry is still able to bring Team Flash together due to sheer personality, even if there was some kidnapping involved, they could've just walked back out if they wanted.

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* MagneticHero: Even in a timeline vastly different from the original, Barry is still able to bring Team Flash together due to sheer personality, even personality. Even if there was some kidnapping involved, they could've just walked back out if they wanted.



** Wally's origin as the Flash in the Flashpoint timeline is actually closer to Barry's traditional comic-book origins - he was struck by lightning and exposed to chemicals (the difference being that he was in a race-car as opposed to a lab). Speaking of which, the race-car SuperheroOrigin story is very similar to Daniel West's ''superevillain'' origins.

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** Wally's origin as the Flash in the Flashpoint timeline is actually closer to Barry's traditional comic-book origins - he was struck by lightning and exposed to chemicals (the difference being that he was in a race-car as opposed to a lab). Speaking of which, the race-car SuperheroOrigin story is very similar to Daniel West's ''superevillain'' ''supervillain'' origins.



** And the biggest one is thanks to all of Barry's time meddling, Eobard Thawne has managed to wriggle out of his KarmicDeath negating Eddie's sacrifice.
* NotMeThisTime: [[NoodleIncident Apparently]], Cisco does not like how Wally zooms around in his lab, but Wally quickly proves that he's not responsible when he was also kidnapped mere seconds later.

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** And the biggest one is thanks to all of Barry's time meddling, Eobard Thawne has managed to wriggle out of his KarmicDeath KarmicDeath, negating Eddie's sacrifice.
* NotMeThisTime: [[NoodleIncident Apparently]], Cisco does not like how Wally zooms around in his lab, but Wally quickly proves that he's not responsible when he was is also kidnapped mere seconds later.



* PragmaticAdaptation: A lot of liberties are with the "Flashpoint" storyline. Justified because the majority of characters in the comics story are ones off limits to the Franchise/ArrowVerse.
* RaceAgainstTheClock: Barry realizes that if he can't set things before he forgets the old timeline, this one will become permanent.
* RippleEffectProofMemory: Played with as Barry does remember the old timeline but every time he uses his powers, he forgets some memories of it. Thawne tells him that if he forgets all his memories, this timeline becomes permanent.

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* PragmaticAdaptation: A lot of liberties are with the "Flashpoint" storyline. story-line. Justified because the majority of characters in the comics story are ones off limits off-limits to the Franchise/ArrowVerse.
* RaceAgainstTheClock: Barry realizes that if he can't set things right before he forgets the old timeline, this one will become permanent.
* RippleEffectProofMemory: Played with as Barry does remember the old timeline but every time he uses his powers, he forgets some memories of it. Thawne tells him that if he forgets all his memories, this timeline becomes permanent.



* SelectiveEnforcement: The Universe seems to very picky on who it punishes for time meddling. Thawne goes back in time to kill Barry as a 10 year boy before settling on his mom as a consolation prize, only to lose his superspeed so he kills and replaces Dr. Wells to create the Flash early all so he can get back home, and the timeline is relatively stable. Barry goes back in time to save his mom and what happens? The Universe punishes him by making him responsible for ruining his friends and family. Though it may be it's way of trying to make sure Barry doesn't end up like on of the other evil speedsters.

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* SelectiveEnforcement: The Universe seems to very picky on who it punishes for time meddling. Thawne goes back in time to kill Barry as a 10 year 10-year-old boy before settling on his mom as a consolation prize, only to lose his superspeed so super-speed. So he kills and replaces Dr. Wells to create the Flash early all so he can get back home, and the timeline is relatively stable. Barry goes back in time to save his mom and what happens? The Universe punishes him by making him responsible for ruining his friends and family. Though it may be it's its way of trying to make sure Barry doesn't end up like on one of the other evil speedsters.

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* CallBack:
** The fight against the Rival is a huge reference to the very first episode with the fight against Weather Wizard. It's in the same location, tornados are created and Joe shoots the villain from behind. Cisco even calls the Rival ''some kind of Weather Wizard''.
** [[Recap/TheFlash2014S1E21GroddLives Once again]], Iris' encouragement gives Barry a HeroicSecondWind to beat the villain.
** Cisco tells Iris, Wally, and Barry he does not want to go up against an evil speedster and end up with a [[Recap/TheFlash2014S1E15OutOfTime vibrating]] [[Recap/TheFlash2014S2E13WelcomeToEarthTwo hand]] through his ribcage.
** Like in the Season 2 premiere, Barry [[PuttingTheBandBackTogether needs Team Flash]]. Whereas Barry was [[IWorkAlone reluctant]] there, this time, however, he's the one who instigates the whole "reunion".


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* ContinuityNod: Cisco tells Iris, Wally, and Barry he does not want to go up against an evil speedster and end up with a [[Recap/TheFlash2014S1E15OutOfTime vibrating]] [[Recap/TheFlash2014S2E13WelcomeToEarthTwo hand]] through his ribcage.


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* InternalHomage: The fight against the Rival is a huge reference to the very first episode with the fight against Weather Wizard. It's in the same location, tornados are created and Joe shoots the villain from behind. Cisco even calls the Rival ''some kind of Weather Wizard''.

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* {{Hypocrite}}: Thawne's criticism of Barry's actions come off rather flat thanks to his own extensive TimeTravel shenanigans, especially since Barry's actions were the end goal of his future self's EvilPlan.

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* {{Hypocrite}}: Thawne's criticism of Barry's actions come off rather flat thanks to his own extensive TimeTravel shenanigans, especially since Barry's actions were the end goal of his future self's EvilPlan.EvilPlan in Season One.
* ILied: Thawne really misled Barry on how time travel works, neglecting to mention how things still things change even if you "fix" things.
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* SelectiveEnforcement: The Universe seems to very picky on who it punishes for time meddling. Thawne goes back in time to kill Barry as a 10 year boy before settling on his mom as a consolation prize, only to lose his superspeed so he kills and replaces Dr. Wells to create the Flash early all so he can get back home, and the timeline is relatively stable. Barry goes back in time to save his mom and what happens? The Universe punishes him by making him responsible for ruining his friends and family.

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* SelectiveEnforcement: The Universe seems to very picky on who it punishes for time meddling. Thawne goes back in time to kill Barry as a 10 year boy before settling on his mom as a consolation prize, only to lose his superspeed so he kills and replaces Dr. Wells to create the Flash early all so he can get back home, and the timeline is relatively stable. Barry goes back in time to save his mom and what happens? The Universe punishes him by making him responsible for ruining his friends and family. Though it may be it's way of trying to make sure Barry doesn't end up like on of the other evil speedsters.
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** Like the Season 2 premiere, Barry needs PuttingTheBandBackTogether. Whereas Barry was [[IWorkAlone reluctant]] there, this time, however, he's the one who instigates the whole "reunion".

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** Like in the Season 2 premiere, Barry [[PuttingTheBandBackTogether needs PuttingTheBandBackTogether.Team Flash]]. Whereas Barry was [[IWorkAlone reluctant]] there, this time, however, he's the one who instigates the whole "reunion".



* CompositeCharacter: Wally comes full circle here; he's still African-American, but his Kid Flash costume is based not on the New 52 version, but rather the Classic one donned by Pre-''Flaspoint'' Wally West, and his role as Flashpoint!Central City's champion supplants Citizen Cold.

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* CompositeCharacter: Wally comes full circle here; he's still African-American, but his Kid Flash costume is based not on the New 52 version, but rather the Classic one donned by Pre-''Flaspoint'' Pre-''Flashpoint'' Wally West, and his role as Flashpoint!Central City's champion supplants Citizen Cold.
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* SelectiveEnforcement: The Universe seems to very picky on who it punishes for time meddling. Thawne goes back in time to kill Barry as a 10 year boy before settling on his mom as a consolation prize, only to lose his suppressed so he kills and replaces Dr. Wells to create the Flash early all so he can get back home, and the timeline is relatively stable. Barry goes back in time to save his mom and what happens? He's unwittingly ruined the lives of his friends and loved ones!

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* SelectiveEnforcement: The Universe seems to very picky on who it punishes for time meddling. Thawne goes back in time to kill Barry as a 10 year boy before settling on his mom as a consolation prize, only to lose his suppressed superspeed so he kills and replaces Dr. Wells to create the Flash early all so he can get back home, and the timeline is relatively stable. Barry goes back in time to save his mom and what happens? He's unwittingly ruined the lives of The Universe punishes him by making him responsible for ruining his friends and loved ones!family.
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* SelectiveEnforcement: The Universe seems to very picky on who it punishes for time meddling. Thawne goes back in time to kill Barry as a 10 year boy before settling on his mom as a consolation prize, only to lose his suppressed so he kills and replaces Dr. Wells to create the Flash early all so he can get back home, and the timeline is relatively stable. Barry goes back in time to save his mom and what happens? He's unwittingly ruined the lives of his friends and loved ones!
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** This might also apply to rules concerning the Time Wraiths introduced in Season Three. For whatever reason, they don't appear at all even though it was made clear in S3 that they don't tolerate alteration of the timeline at all.

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** This might also apply to rules concerning the Time Wraiths introduced in Season Three. Two. For whatever reason, they don't appear at all even though it was made clear in S3 S2 that they don't tolerate alteration of the timeline at all.
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** This might also apply to rules concerning the Time Wraiths introduced in Season Three. For whatever reason, they don't appear at all even though it was made clear in S3 that they don't tolerate alteration of the timeline at all.
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* AdaptationalWimp: In the comic, Thawne got a considerable power boost from the chaos caused by all of the time damage; here he's locked in a cage until Barry needs his help.
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* WHAMLine:

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** Like the Season 2 premiere, Barry needs PuttingTheBandBackTogether. Whereas Barry was [[IWorkAlone reluctant]] there, this time, however, he's the one who instigates the whole "reunion".


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* CompositeCharacter: Wally comes full circle here; he's still African-American, but his Kid Flash costume is based not on the New 52 version, but rather the Classic one donned by Pre-''Flaspoint'' Wally West, and his role as Flashpoint!Central City's champion supplants Citizen Cold.
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** Played straight when Barry realizes he has to let Thawne kill Nora.

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** Played straight when Barry realizes he has to let Thawne kill Nora. Sadly it's not the quick fix Barry was hoping for.
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* AdaptedOut: A large number of characters present on the original ''ComicBook{{Flashpoint}}'' storyline are not present here. Justified since most of them aren't in the Franchise/{{Arrowverse}}. Also, [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Two]] [[ComicBook/LoisLane key]] characters [[Series/{{Supergirl 2015}} live in another universe from this one]].

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* AdaptedOut: A large number of characters present on the original ''ComicBook{{Flashpoint}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' storyline are not present here. Justified since most of them aren't in the Franchise/{{Arrowverse}}. Also, [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Two]] [[ComicBook/LoisLane key]] characters [[Series/{{Supergirl 2015}} live in another universe from this one]].

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