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* DealWithADevil: It's implied that Eclipso gave Bruce Gordon all the fame and fortune he ever wanted, but in returned, he ended up destroying the lives of everyone Bruce cared about.

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* DealWithADevil: DealWithTheDevil: It's implied that Eclipso gave Bruce Gordon all the fame and fortune he ever wanted, but in returned, he ended up destroying the lives of everyone Bruce cared about.
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* DealWithADevil: It's implied that Eclipso gave Bruce Gordon all the fame and fortune he ever wanted, but in returned, he ended up destroying the lives of everyone Bruce cared about.
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* PyrrhicVictory: The original [=JSA=] was able to stop Eclipso's reign of terror, but the fact that they resorted to murder to do it and that not all of them were morally onboard with this option caused a serious drop in their morale that the Injustice Society took full advantage of, leading to the [=JSA=]'s defeat.

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* PyrrhicVictory: The original [=JSA=] was able to stop Eclipso's reign of terror, but the fact that they resorted to murder to do it and that not all of them were morally onboard with this option caused struck a serious drop in blow to their morale that the Injustice Society took full advantage of, leading to the [=JSA=]'s defeat.

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* BothSidesHaveAPoint: The main ethical debate this episode is whether they need to kill Eclipso's host to save the day or exorcise the malevolent spirit and save the host. While Pat is firmly on the side of not killing, the other side does have a good point. Eclipso is a purely evil being, and being allowed to run around unchecked will result in the deaths of many, many more people, such as Dr. Mid-Nite's daughter. As [[Franchise/StarTrek Spock]] famously said, "TheNeedsOfTheMany outweigh the needs of the few." It's also mentioned that Doctor Fate and Green Lantern, the magic users, were unable to stop him, so presumably exorcism wasn't a feasible option anyway.

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* BothSidesHaveAPoint: BothSidesHaveAPoint:
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The main ethical debate this episode is whether they need to kill Eclipso's host to save the day or exorcise the malevolent spirit and save the host. While Pat is firmly on the side of not killing, the other side does have a good point. Eclipso is a purely evil being, and being allowed to run around unchecked will result in the deaths of many, many more people, such as Dr. Mid-Nite's daughter. As [[Franchise/StarTrek Spock]] famously said, "TheNeedsOfTheMany outweigh the needs of the few." It's also mentioned that Doctor Fate and Green Lantern, the magic users, were unable to stop him, so presumably exorcism wasn't a feasible option anyway.anyway.
** The disagreement Courtney has with Pat over his withholding how the original [=JSA=] broke ThouShallNotKill to stop Eclipso. Pat was clearly trying to protect Courtney and the team, who are a bunch of inexperienced teenagers, from the trauma that goes along with making life-or-death decisions when no other options are seemingly available, pointing out that in the aftermath, the original [=JSA=] suffered a HeroicBSOD that ultimately led to their defeat by the Injustice Society. On Courtney's side, however, this information still would have been nice to know and on the larger scale, the trust between her and Pat (and probably Barbara since she also knew) has been damaged.


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* PyrrhicVictory: The original [=JSA=] was able to stop Eclipso's reign of terror, but the fact that they resorted to murder to do it and that not all of them were morally onboard with this option caused a serious drop in their morale that the Injustice Society took full advantage of, leading to the [=JSA=]'s defeat.

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* HeroicBSOD: Pat explains that, after crossing the ThouShallNotKill line, the original [=JSA=]'s morale took a heavy hit, allowing the reformed Injustice Society to strike and ultimately take them all out.

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Pat explains that, after crossing the ThouShallNotKill line, the original [=JSA=]'s morale took a heavy hit, allowing the reformed Injustice Society to strike and ultimately take them all out.
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** Dr. Mid-Nite suffered one after Rebecca's murder, leading him to propose crossing the aforementioned line in the first place.

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* HeroicBSOD: Pat explains that, after crossing the ThouShallNotKill line, the original [=JSA=]'s morale took a heavy hit, allowing the reformed Injustice Society to strike and ultimately take them all out.



* ThouShallNotKill: The original [=JSA=] fell out over this since they ultimately did kill Eclipso's human host to defeat him as a measure of last resort, and the Flash and Pat had been adamant that there had to be another way. Pat explains to Courtney that the team was never the same afterward and their subsequent drop in morale allowed the Injustice Society to reform and defeat them.

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* ThouShallNotKill: The original [=JSA=] fell out over this since they ultimately did kill Eclipso's human host to defeat him as a measure of last resort, and the Flash and Pat had been adamant that there had to be another way. Pat explains to Courtney that the team was never the same afterward and their subsequent drop in morale allowed afterward, allowing the Injustice Society to reform itself and take advantage of their lapse in morale to overwhelm and defeat them.
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* AdaptationalNiceGuy: Comic-book Spectre would have had no qualms killing Bruce Gordon to take out Eclipso, even ''before'' the [=JSA=] considered it as a viable option. Apparently, Earth-2's Spectre either has more of a conscience or is more tightly bound by the Powers that Be than his counterpart.
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* SacrificialLamb: Bruce Gordon becomes this the minute the [=JSA=] realize that killing Eclipso's human host body is the only way to permanently put him down.
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* GogglesDoSomethingUnusual: In his civvies, Dr. [=McNider=] wears sunglasses that seem to work like a stripped down version of his goggles.

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* GogglesDoSomethingUnusual: In his civvies, Dr. [=McNider=] wears sunglasses that seem to work like a stripped down stripped-down version of his goggles.



** Spectre, Eclipso's arch-enemy in the comics, is mentioned.

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** The Spectre, Eclipso's arch-enemy in the comics, is mentioned.mentioned as having tried and failed to neutralize the demon.
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* AdaptationalWimp: In the comics, [[ComicBook/TheSpectre Spectre]] is one of the few characters capable of keeping Eclipso in check as long as Eclipso isn't at full power and actually replaced him as the embodiment of God's wrath at one point. Here, it's mentioned that he, along with Hawk and Doctor Fate, was unable to neutralize Eclipso while the demon was still bound to the Heart of Darkness diamond, necessitating the [=JSA=] to take drastic action.

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* AdaptationalWimp: In When he isn't being [[TheWorfEffect worfed]] in the comics, [[ComicBook/TheSpectre Spectre]] is one of the few characters capable of keeping Eclipso in check as long as Eclipso isn't at full power and actually replaced him as the embodiment of God's wrath at one point. Here, it's mentioned that he, along with Hawk and Doctor Fate, was unable to neutralize Eclipso while the demon was still bound to the Heart of Darkness diamond, necessitating the [=JSA=] to take drastic action.
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* AdaptationalWimp: In the comics, Spectre is one of the few characters capable of keeping Eclipso in check as long as Eclipso isn't at full power and actually replaced him as the embodiment of God's wrath at one point. Here, it's mentioned that he, along with Hawk and Doctor Fate, was unable to neutralize Eclipso while the demon was still bound to the Heart of Darkness diamond, necessitating the [=JSA=] to take drastic action.

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* AdaptationalWimp: In the comics, Spectre [[ComicBook/TheSpectre Spectre]] is one of the few characters capable of keeping Eclipso in check as long as Eclipso isn't at full power and actually replaced him as the embodiment of God's wrath at one point. Here, it's mentioned that he, along with Hawk and Doctor Fate, was unable to neutralize Eclipso while the demon was still bound to the Heart of Darkness diamond, necessitating the [=JSA=] to take drastic action.
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* CallBack: Yolanda was the first one to theorize that killing Eclipso might be the only way to defeat him back in Chapter 7 and here it's confirmed that killing Eclipso's host body is one, if not the sole, method of defeating him. Unfortunately, as Eclipso no longer needs a human conduit, it might be too late to try this method.

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* CallBack: Yolanda was the first one to theorize that killing Eclipso might be the only way to defeat him back in Chapter 7 and here it's confirmed that killing Eclipso's host body is one, if not the sole, method of defeating him. Unfortunately, as Eclipso seemingly no longer needs a human conduit, it might be too late to try this method.method, let alone that none of the [=JSA=] members are thrilled at the prospect of murdering someone.
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-->'''Courtney''': What's my mom going to say when she finds out?
-->'''Pat''': She already knows.

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-->'''Courtney''': --->'''Courtney''': What's my mom going to say when she finds out?
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** With the vote to kill Gordon tied, Pat assumes Starman will decide no...and Sylvester says "I vote yes."
** Courtney is irate at Pat keeping secret how the JSA killed Gordon.
-->'''Courtney''': What's my mom going to say when she finds out?
-->'''Pat''': She already knows.

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* BothSidesHaveAPoint: The main ethical debate this episode, especially in the JSA flashbacks, is whether they need to kill Eclipso's host to save the day or exorcise the malevolent spirit and save the host. While Pat and Courtney are firmly on the side of not killing, the other side does have a good point. Eclipso is a purely evil being, and being allowed to run around unchecked will result in the deaths of many, many more people, such as Dr. Mid-Nite's daughter. As [[Franchise/StarTrek Spock]] famously said, "TheNeedsOfTheMany outweigh the needs of the few."
** It's also mentioned that Doctor Fate and Green Lantern, the magic users, were unable to stop him, so presumably exorcism wasn't a feasible option anyway.

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* BothSidesHaveAPoint: The main ethical debate this episode, especially in the JSA flashbacks, episode is whether they need to kill Eclipso's host to save the day or exorcise the malevolent spirit and save the host. While Pat and Courtney are is firmly on the side of not killing, the other side does have a good point. Eclipso is a purely evil being, and being allowed to run around unchecked will result in the deaths of many, many more people, such as Dr. Mid-Nite's daughter. As [[Franchise/StarTrek Spock]] famously said, "TheNeedsOfTheMany outweigh the needs of the few."
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" It's also mentioned that Doctor Fate and Green Lantern, the magic users, were unable to stop him, so presumably exorcism wasn't a feasible option anyway. anyway.



* DramaticIrony: The flashbacks hit doubly hard considering the Cosmic Staff, in the present, is demonstrated to be capable of purging Eclipso's influence from a host, though it's not clear if that would have worked on someone Eclipso was directly possessing.



* MythologyGag: Just like in the comics, Eclipso's original discoverer and host is Bruce Gordon.

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* MythologyGag: MythologyGag:
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Just like in the comics, Eclipso's original discoverer and host is Bruce Gordon.



* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Played with. Pat's decision to not tell the current [=JSA=] that Eclipso could be defeated by killing his human host deprived them of at least one solution to the demon directly threatening them, resulting in Yolanda leaving the team and Rick being incarcerated. That being said, it's unlikely that any of them would have been willing to murder Cindy in cold blood.

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Played with. Pat's decision to not tell the current [=JSA=] that Eclipso could be defeated by killing his human host deprived them of at least one solution to the demon directly threatening them, resulting in Yolanda leaving the team and Rick being incarcerated. That being said, it's unlikely that any of them would have been willing to murder Cindy in cold blood.blood even if they had known it was an option, and Courtney's fury is more from being denied the knowledge itself than the idea she could have applied it.



* PapaWolf: After Eclipso killed his daughter, Dr. Mid-Nite was willing to ''anything'' to stop him.

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* PapaWolf: PapaWolf:
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After Eclipso killed his daughter, Dr. Mid-Nite was willing to ''anything'' to stop him.



* ThouShallNotKill: The original [=JSA=] fell out over this since they would have to, and ultimately did, kill Eclipso's human host to defeat him, and the Flash and Pat had been adamant that there had to be another way. Pat explains to Courtney that the team was never the same afterward and their subsequent drop in morale allowed the Injustice Society to reform and defeat them.

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* ThouShallNotKill: The original [=JSA=] fell out over this since they would have to, and ultimately did, did kill Eclipso's human host to defeat him, him as a measure of last resort, and the Flash and Pat had been adamant that there had to be another way. Pat explains to Courtney that the team was never the same afterward and their subsequent drop in morale allowed the Injustice Society to reform and defeat them.

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Pat's decision to not tell the current [=JSA=] that Eclipso could be defeated by killing his human host deprived them of at least one solution to the demon directly threatening them, resulting in Yolanda leaving the team and Rick being incarcerated.
** That being said, it's unclear if the trope is really in play, since it's unlikely any of them would have been willing to murder Cindy in cold blood.

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Played with. Pat's decision to not tell the current [=JSA=] that Eclipso could be defeated by killing his human host deprived them of at least one solution to the demon directly threatening them, resulting in Yolanda leaving the team and Rick being incarcerated.
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incarcerated. That being said, it's unclear if the trope is really in play, since it's unlikely that any of them would have been willing to murder Cindy in cold blood.
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* CallBack: Yolanda was the first one to theorize that killing Eclipso might be the only way to defeat him back in Chapter 7. Here, it's confirmed.
* CallingTheOldManOut: Courtney calls out both Pat and Barbara for keeping the fact that the only proven way to defeat Eclipso is to kill his human host from her and the team while Eclipso was picking them off one by one.

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* CallBack: Yolanda was the first one to theorize that killing Eclipso might be the only way to defeat him back in Chapter 7. Here, 7 and here it's confirmed.
confirmed that killing Eclipso's host body is one, if not the sole, method of defeating him. Unfortunately, as Eclipso no longer needs a human conduit, it might be too late to try this method.
* CallingTheOldManOut: Courtney calls out both Pat and Barbara for keeping the fact that the only proven way to defeat Eclipso is to kill his human host from her and the team when they had a chance to try this method and for continuing to withhold it while Eclipso was picking them off one by one.
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** Spectre, Eclipso's arch-enemy in the comics, is mentioned.
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* AdaptationalWimp: In the comics, Spectre is one of the few characters capable of keeping Eclipso in check and actually replaced him as the embodiment of God's wrath at one point. Here, it's mentioned that he, along with Hawk and Doctor Fate, was unable to neutralize Eclipso, necessitating the [=JSA=] to take drastic action.

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* AdaptationalWimp: In the comics, Spectre is one of the few characters capable of keeping Eclipso in check as long as Eclipso isn't at full power and actually replaced him as the embodiment of God's wrath at one point. Here, it's mentioned that he, along with Hawk and Doctor Fate, was unable to neutralize Eclipso, Eclipso while the demon was still bound to the Heart of Darkness diamond, necessitating the [=JSA=] to take drastic action.
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* AdaptationalWimp: In the comics, Spectre is one of the few characters capable of keeping Eclipso in check and actually replaced him as the embodiment of God's wrath at one point. Here, it's mentioned that he, along with Hawk and Doctor Fate, was unable to neutralize Eclipso, necessitating the [=JSA=] to take drastic action.
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** It's also mentioned that Doctor Fate and Green Lantern, the magic users, were unable to stop him, so presumably exorcism wasn't a feasible option anyway.


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** That being said, it's unclear if the trope is really in play, since it's unlikely any of them would have been willing to murder Cindy in cold blood.


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** Ted Grant, previously seen as a NiceGuy and GentleGiant, mentions that he has a son, and similarly will do anything to stop Eclipso.
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* GogglesDoSomethingUnusual: In his civvies, Dr. [=McNider=] wears sunglasses that seem to work like a stripped down version of his goggles.


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* ParentalAbandonment: Eclipso-as-Cameron needles into Mike by bringing up how his birth mother left when he was three.

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* AccompliceByInaction: Pat feels this way about Bruce Gordon's death. He may not have agreed to it, but he still drove Starman there and didn't intervene when he could have.



* BittersweetEnding: Eclipso has failed to kill any of the Dugans, but he's still driven a wedge between Courtney and her parents by getting Pat to reveal the truth about Eclipso's past with the JSA.



* ForYourOwnGood: This is how Pat justifies keeping the secret of how the original JSA defeated Eclipso. Being willing to kill a man to end the threat fundamentally broke them as a unit, and the fallout from that is what allowed the ISA to reform and ultimately triumph over them.



* KillTheHostBody: This is how the original JSA defeated Eclipso, having gotten desperate after he threatened their families and killed [=McNider's=] daughter. Obviously, this isn't an option in the present.

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* KillTheHostBody: This is how the original JSA defeated Eclipso, having gotten desperate after he threatened their families and killed [=McNider's=] daughter. Since he needs a host to act while trapped in the Black Diamond, killing Bruce Gordon effectively punted him back inside the diamond and left him powerless. Obviously, this isn't an option in the present.



* SealedEvilInACan: By killing Bruce Gordon, the original JSA managed to re-seal Eclipso back into the Black Diamond (though presumably William Zarick would get his hands on it some point later on).



* WhatTheHellHero: Courtney delivers one to Pat when she learns that he kept the information about defeating Eclipso by killing his human host a secret from her and the team, pointing out that he continued to do this even ''after'' Eclipso was freed from the diamond and began targeting them.

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* WhatTheHellHero: Courtney delivers one to Pat when she learns that he kept the information about defeating Eclipso by killing his human host a secret from her and the team, pointing out that he continued to do this even ''after'' Eclipso was freed from the diamond and began targeting them. She then moves to Barbara when Pat reveals he already told her the truth.
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* YouOweMe: Eclipso outright says this to Bruce Gordon when convincing him to let him possess him. Of course, [[Recap/Stargirl2020S2E06SummerSchoolChapterSix we already know]] how he [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness treats people]] who say the same to ''him''.

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* GodzillaThreshold: Breaking the [=JSA=]'s no-kill policy and murdering Eclipso's human host was how the original [=JSA=] defeated him. They tried to find another way, but when he crossed the line and threatened [[ItsPersonal their families]] directly, they (or at least Starman, Wildcat, and Dr. Mid-Nite) got desperate.

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* GodzillaThreshold: Breaking the [=JSA=]'s no-kill policy and murdering Eclipso's human host was how the original [=JSA=] defeated him. They tried to find another way, but when the Spectre, Hawks, and Doctor Fate all failed to stop him. When he crossed the line and threatened [[ItsPersonal their families]] directly, they (or at least Starman, Wildcat, and Dr. Mid-Nite) Mid-Nite got desperate.



* KillTheHostBody: This is how the original JSA defeated Eclipso, having gotten desperate after he threatened their families and killed [=McNider's=] daughter.

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* KickTheDog: Cameron murders Buddy when the dog barks at him, but it's just an illusion.
* KillTheHostBody: This is how the original JSA defeated Eclipso, having gotten desperate after he threatened their families and killed [=McNider's=] daughter. Obviously, this isn't an option in the present.

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* ContinuityNod: Rebecca [=McNider's=] death at Eclipso's hands from ''[[Recap/Stargirl2020S2E01SummerSchoolChapterOne Summer School: Chapter One]]'' is remembered, with Pat and the original [=JSA=] attending her funeral in a flashback.
* GodzillaThreshold: Breaking the [=JSA=]'s no-kill policy and murdering Eclipso's human host was how the original [=JSA=] defeated him. They tried to find another way but he crossed the line and threatened [[ItsPersonal their families]] directly, they (or at least Starman, Wildcat, and Dr. Mid-Nite) got desperate.

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* ContinuityNod: Rebecca [=McNider's=] death at Eclipso's hands from ''[[Recap/Stargirl2020S2E01SummerSchoolChapterOne "[[Recap/Stargirl2020S2E01SummerSchoolChapterOne Summer School: Chapter One]]'' One]]" is remembered, with Pat and the original [=JSA=] attending her funeral in a flashback.
* {{Flashback}}: Most of Pat's scenes are flashbacks to his time with the JSA as they were dealing with Eclipso.
* GodzillaThreshold: Breaking the [=JSA=]'s no-kill policy and murdering Eclipso's human host was how the original [=JSA=] defeated him. They tried to find another way way, but when he crossed the line and threatened [[ItsPersonal their families]] directly, they (or at least Starman, Wildcat, and Dr. Mid-Nite) got desperate.



* ItsPersonal: Eclipso murdering Dr. Mid-Nite's daughter and threatening the other [=JSA=] members' families is what pushed them to break ThouShallNotKill to defeat him.

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* ItsPersonal: Eclipso murdering Dr. Mid-Nite's daughter and threatening the other [=JSA=] members' families is what pushed them to break their ThouShallNotKill policy to defeat him.him.
* KillTheHostBody: This is how the original JSA defeated Eclipso, having gotten desperate after he threatened their families and killed [=McNider's=] daughter.



* SealedEvilInACan: By killing Bruce Gordon the original JSA manages to re-seal Eclipso back into the Black Diamond (though presumably William Zarick would get his hands on it some point later on).

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* SealedEvilInACan: By killing Bruce Gordon Gordon, the original JSA manages managed to re-seal Eclipso back into the Black Diamond (though presumably William Zarick would get his hands on it some point later on).



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* PapaWolf: After Eclipso killed his daughter, Dr. Md-Nite was willing to ''anything'' to stop him.

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* PapaWolf: After Eclipso killed his daughter, Dr. Md-Nite Mid-Nite was willing to ''anything'' to stop him.



* SealedEvilInACan: By killing Bruce Gordon the original ISA manages to re-seal Eclipso back into the Black Diamond (though presumably William Zarick would get his hands on it some point later on).

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* SealedEvilInACan: By killing Bruce Gordon the original ISA JSA manages to re-seal Eclipso back into the Black Diamond (though presumably William Zarick would get his hands on it some point later on).
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* BackFromTheDead: Jordan Mackhent seemingly returns to take his revenge on Barbara, but thanks to the Shade's intervention it's revealed to be yet another Eclipso illusion.

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* BackFromTheDead: Jordan Mackhent Mahkent seemingly returns to take his revenge on Barbara, but thanks to the Shade's intervention it's revealed to be yet another Eclipso illusion.



* TheBusCameBack: Jordan Makhent and the Shade return in this episode, with the latter revealing the former to be another of Eclipso's [[MindScrew mind games]].

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* TheBusCameBack: Jordan Makhent Mahkent and the Shade return in this episode, with the latter revealing the former to be another of Eclipso's [[MindScrew mind games]].
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* BothSidesHaveAPoint: The main ethical debate this episode, especially in the JSA flashbacks, is whether they need to kill Eclipso's host to save the day or exorcise the malevolent spirit and save the host. While Pat and Courtney are firmly on the side of not killing, the other side does have a good point. Eclipso is a purely evil being, and being allowed to run around unchecked will result in the deaths of many, many more people, such as Dr. Mid-Nite's daughter. As [[Franchise/StarTrek Spock]] famously said, "TheNeedsOfTheMany outweigh the needs of the few."

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