Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Recap / Invincible2021S02E02ALessonForYourNextLife

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Changed wrong usage of 'nonplussed' to something that doesn't mean the exact opposite of the 'US colloquial' usage.


* ItsPersonal: Alternate Angstrom has a ''burning'' hatred towards Evil Invincible for the atrocities he's committed, reacting with outraged disgust when he attempts to lay hands on him[[labelnote:*]]Evil Invincible ''was'' about to kill him, but Angstrom's reaction indicated he was more upset about being manhandled by such an unrepentant mass-murderer than his impending gruesome death[[/labelnote]] and ranting at the duo that JusticeWillPrevail even as they're utterly nonplussed by his opinions. Even knowing that the Invincible who crashes the experiment is a multiversal doppelgänger of his Invincible (and presumably being aware that this Invincible didn't join up with Omni-Man) the sight of Mark makes him shoot a loathing-filled DeathGlare at him, apparently only not taking action because he's restrained in his chair. Ths sentiment unfortunately transfers over to Prime Angstrom when he's mutated and gets his memories mixed in with his alternates, being so overwhelming that it apparently overrides any others to compel the disfigured scientist to take {{Revenge}} against Invincible.

to:

* ItsPersonal: Alternate Angstrom has a ''burning'' hatred towards Evil Invincible for the atrocities he's committed, reacting with outraged disgust when he attempts to lay hands on him[[labelnote:*]]Evil Invincible ''was'' about to kill him, but Angstrom's reaction indicated he was more upset about being manhandled by such an unrepentant mass-murderer than his impending gruesome death[[/labelnote]] and ranting at the duo that JusticeWillPrevail even as they're utterly nonplussed unimpressed by his opinions. Even knowing that the Invincible who crashes the experiment is a multiversal doppelgänger of his Invincible (and presumably being aware that this Invincible didn't join up with Omni-Man) the sight of Mark makes him shoot a loathing-filled DeathGlare at him, apparently only not taking action because he's restrained in his chair. Ths sentiment unfortunately transfers over to Prime Angstrom when he's mutated and gets his memories mixed in with his alternates, being so overwhelming that it apparently overrides any others to compel the disfigured scientist to take {{Revenge}} against Invincible.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* IdentityBreakdown: Made worse by the identity in question being ''the same person''. Angstrom trying to stop the violence between Invincible and the Mauler twins gets him turned into a BodyHorror mutant with a brain so large it grows down his neck and over his back, as a result of his brain being meshed together with all the alternative versions of himself he was connecting to. This results in their memories getting mixed into his and Angstrom losing track of which universe his current body is actually from, believing that the Invincible that interrupted his experiment is just as bad/the same Invincible as his EvilCounterpart in other dimensions. This leaves him with a burning desire for {{Revenge}} against him despite Mark being pretty blameless for his current condition, as the scarred Mauler Twin points out.

to:

* IdentityBreakdown: Made worse by the identity in question being ''the same person''. Angstrom trying to stop the violence between Invincible and the Mauler twins gets him turned into a BodyHorror mutant with a brain so large it grows down his neck and over his back, as a result of his brain being meshed together with all the alternative versions of himself he was connecting to. This results in their memories getting mixed into his and Angstrom losing track of which universe his current body is actually from, from along with all the trauma his alternate universe counterparts experienced all at once in mere minutes, believing that the Invincible that interrupted his experiment is just as bad/the same Invincible as his EvilCounterpart in other dimensions. This leaves him with a burning desire for {{Revenge}} against him despite Mark being pretty blameless for his current condition, as the scarred Mauler Twin points out.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* MoodDissonance: Evil Invincible and Omni-Man engage in a lot of weirdly casual conversations as they brutally subjugate their world, from Nolan complaining he's hungry because he put down a riot in Bangkok to Mark explaining he learned how to paralyze people by breaking their necks without outright killing them by practicing it on protestors like an athlete discussing a new technique. It's like how they'd normally banter while fighting criminals or supervillains but with innocent people instead.

to:

* MoodDissonance: Evil Invincible and Omni-Man engage in a lot of weirdly casual conversations as they brutally subjugate their world, from Nolan complaining he's hungry because he missed lunch to put down a riot in Bangkok to Mark explaining he learned how to paralyze people by breaking their necks without outright actually killing them by practicing it on protestors like an athlete discussing talking about a new technique. move they made. It's like how they'd normally regularly banter while fighting criminals or supervillains supervillains... but replace the bad guys with innocent people instead.people, and you can see the problem.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* MoodDissonance: Evil Invincible and Omni-Man engage in a lot of weirdly casual conversations as they brutally subjugate their world, from Nolan complaining he's hungry because he put down a riot in Bagkock to Mark explaining he learned how to paralyze people by breaking their necks without outright killing them by practicing it on protestors like an athlete discussing a new technique. It's like how they'd normally banter while fighting criminals or supervillains but with innocent people instead.

to:

* MoodDissonance: Evil Invincible and Omni-Man engage in a lot of weirdly casual conversations as they brutally subjugate their world, from Nolan complaining he's hungry because he put down a riot in Bagkock Bangkok to Mark explaining he learned how to paralyze people by breaking their necks without outright killing them by practicing it on protestors like an athlete discussing a new technique. It's like how they'd normally banter while fighting criminals or supervillains but with innocent people instead.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ItsPersonal: Alternate Angstrom has a ''burning'' hatred towards Evil Invincible for the atrocities he's committed, reacting with outraged disgust when he attempts to lay hands on him[[labelnote:*]]Evil Invincible ''was'' about to kill him, but Angstrom's reaction indicated he was more upset about being manhandled by such an unrepentant mass-murder than his impending gruesome death[[/labelnote]] and ranting at the duo that JusticeWillPrevail even as they're utterly nonplussed by his opinions. Even knowing that the Invincible who crashes the experiment is a multiversal doppelgänger of his Invincible (and presumably being aware that this Invincible didn't join up with Omni-Man) the sight of Mark makes him shoot a loathing-filled DeathGlare at him, apparently only not taking action because he's restrained in his chair. Ths sentiment unfortunately transfers over to Prime Angstrom when he's mutated and gets his memories mixed in with his alternates, being so overwhelming that it apparently overrides any others to compel the disfigured scientist to take {{Revenge}} against Invincible.

to:

* ItsPersonal: Alternate Angstrom has a ''burning'' hatred towards Evil Invincible for the atrocities he's committed, reacting with outraged disgust when he attempts to lay hands on him[[labelnote:*]]Evil Invincible ''was'' about to kill him, but Angstrom's reaction indicated he was more upset about being manhandled by such an unrepentant mass-murder mass-murderer than his impending gruesome death[[/labelnote]] and ranting at the duo that JusticeWillPrevail even as they're utterly nonplussed by his opinions. Even knowing that the Invincible who crashes the experiment is a multiversal doppelgänger of his Invincible (and presumably being aware that this Invincible didn't join up with Omni-Man) the sight of Mark makes him shoot a loathing-filled DeathGlare at him, apparently only not taking action because he's restrained in his chair. Ths sentiment unfortunately transfers over to Prime Angstrom when he's mutated and gets his memories mixed in with his alternates, being so overwhelming that it apparently overrides any others to compel the disfigured scientist to take {{Revenge}} against Invincible.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Olga briefly implies that she might have poisoned Debbie's food in revenge for Omni-Man killing Red Rush. She was kidding. She doesn't actually blame Debbie for what happened.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


'''Evil Invincible:''' Yep, (''with a big smile on his face'') way ahead of you.\\

to:

'''Evil Invincible:''' Yep, (''with a big smile on his face'') way ahead of you.\\

Added: 960

Changed: 335

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* DefiantToTheEnd: Alternate Rudy and Alternate Eve both continue resisting Alternate Omni-Man and Alternate Invincible even after their last hope weapon proved ineffective. On the brink of death, Rudy gives Omni-Man one last barb, while Eve insists to Invincible that death is her preference. Unfortunately for her, Invincible doesn't respect that wish.

to:

* DefiantToTheEnd: DefiantToTheEnd:
**
Alternate Rudy and Alternate Eve both continue resisting Alternate Omni-Man and Alternate Invincible even after their last hope weapon proved ineffective. On the brink of death, Rudy gives Omni-Man one last barb, while Eve insists to Invincible that death is her preference. Unfortunately for her, Invincible doesn't respect that wish.wish.
** Before he gets pulled out from his dimension, Angstrom defiantly tries to stand up to his Invincible and Omni-Man; he swears that justice will come for them, and they'll pay for the lives they ruined. Mark and Nolan don't care all that much, however.
-->'''Alternate Angstrom:''' Justice... Justice will come for you, for all the friends we lost to your senseless cruelty, for all the families you've torn ''apart'', you will ''reap'' what you-!\\
'''Evil Omni-Man:''' Let's do this, Mark. I missed lunch because of that riot in Bangkok.\\
'''Evil Invincible:''' Yep, (''with a big smile on his face'') way ahead of you.\\
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ItsPersonal: Alternate Angstrom has a ''burning'' hatred towards Evil Invincible for the atrocities he's committed, reacting with outraged disgust when he attempts to lay hands on him[[labelnote:*]]Evil Invincible ''was'' about to kill him, but Angstrom's reaction indicated he was more upset about being manhandled by such an unrepentant mass-murder than his impending gruesome death[[/labelnote]] and ranting at the duo that JusticeWillPrevail even as they're utterly nonplussed by his opinions. Even knowing that the Invincible who crashes the experiment is a multiversal doppelgänger of his Invincible (and presumably being aware that this Invincible didn't join up with Omni-Man) the sight of Mark makes him shoot a loathing-filled DeathGlare at him, apparently only not taking action because he's restrained in his chair. Ths sentiment unfortunately transfers over to Prime Angstrom when he's mutated and gets his memories mixed in with his alternates, being so overwhelming that it apparently overrides any others to compel the disfigured scientist to take {{Revenge}} against Invincible.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* DramaticPause: PlayedForLaughs. A RunningGag throughout the episode is multiple characters seeming to tease the Show's TitleDrop (which is always accompanied by a switch to said title whenever the word is said)... only to ''not'' do that and instead just have them say "Invincible" after a notable pause with no explicit reasoning why. It's implied to be an acknowledgement of how weird the usage would have been in prior episodes from an InUniverse perspective.

Added: 214

Changed: 2

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* RemovingTheHeadOrDestroyingTheBrain: Evil Omni-Man and Invincible go the extra mile with the Immortal. Omni-Man decapitates him, then Invincible crushes his severed head to make sure he has no chance of reviving.



* StumblingInTheNewForm: Rudy goes DeerInTheHeadlights the first time he experiences mortal fear, Monster-Girl alludes to him having to adjust to using the bathroom, and Rudy blames adjusting to his new body for his poor performance as a leader recently.

to:

* StumblingInTheNewForm: Rudy goes DeerInTheHeadlights the first time he experiences mortal fear, Monster-Girl Monster Girl alludes to him having to adjust to using the bathroom, and Rudy blames adjusting to his new body for his poor performance as a leader recently.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* MoodDissonance: Evil Invincible and Omni-Man engage in a lot of weirdly casual conversations as they brutally subjugate their world, from Nolan complaining he's hungry because he put down a riot in Bagkock to Mark explaining he learned how to paralyze people by breaking their necks without outright killing them by practicing it on protestors like an athlete discussing a new technique. It's like how they'd normally banter while fighting criminals or supervillains but with innocent people instead.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
No spoilers on recap pages, lads. I'm just following the rules. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=36230&type=att


* AdaptationalContextChange: In the comics, Angstrom's motive for revenge was for the BodyHorror he suffered and his mind being screwed with from the procedure being interrupted, [[MotiveDecay becoming obsessed with killing Invincible after each failure.]] It is only ''far'' later that he belatedly realizes his animosity had been fueled by the memory merge conflating his understanding of this Invincible with the majority who turned on humanity, [[spoiler:a HeelRealization immediately followed by RedemptionEqualsDeath]]. Here, that element is introduced from the start and given more focus, to the extent that being disfigured distresses him less than his grief at his numerous alternate loved ones killed by an Invincible, and he asserts that he considers all his alternate experiences to be his even when the situation is explained to him prior to choosing vengeance.

to:

* AdaptationalContextChange: In the comics, Angstrom's motive for revenge was for the BodyHorror he suffered and his mind being screwed with from the procedure being interrupted, [[MotiveDecay becoming obsessed with killing Invincible after each failure.]] It is only ''far'' later that he belatedly realizes his animosity had been fueled by the memory merge conflating his understanding of this Invincible with the majority who turned on humanity, [[spoiler:a a HeelRealization immediately followed by RedemptionEqualsDeath]].RedemptionEqualsDeath. Here, that element is introduced from the start and given more focus, to the extent that being disfigured distresses him less than his grief at his numerous alternate loved ones killed by an Invincible, and he asserts that he considers all his alternate experiences to be his even when the situation is explained to him prior to choosing vengeance.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ThereAreNoTherapists: Debbie and Mark are clearly suffering from PTSD and maybe something else. But with all his power Cecil just tells Mark to wait for recovery. Debbie resorts to drinking a lot and is comforted by Olga a little, stating that she has nobody to talk to. Mark is comforted by Amber, but she also has to push him to talk. Granted, it's not like normal therapists can deal with their issues, but you'd think Cecil would have someone on staff with the right clearance.

to:

* ThereAreNoTherapists: Debbie and Mark are clearly suffering from PTSD and maybe something else. But with all his power Cecil just tells Mark to wait for recovery. Debbie resorts to heavy drinking a lot and is comforted by tells Olga a little, stating that she has nobody her visit finally gives her someone to talk to.to, but turns down Olga's recommendation of a professional therapist. Mark is comforted by Amber, but she also has to push him to talk. Granted, it's not like normal therapists can deal with their issues, but you'd think Cecil would have someone on staff with the right clearance.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Mark struggles to come to terms with his father's true nature after their brutal battle.

to:

Mark struggles to come to terms with his father's true nature after their brutal battle.battle while the Mauler Twins are recruited for an experiment that will alter the course of the multiverse.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Angstrom refuses to let the alternate Maulers kill Mark, saying he doesn't want his utopia be built on innocent blood. However he stops the experiment, which unleashes a massive power surge killing all of the alternate Angstroms, and turning him into a deformed and insane supervillain looking for revenge.

to:

** Angstrom refuses to let the alternate Maulers kill Mark, saying he doesn't want his utopia to be built on innocent blood. However However, he stops the experiment, which unleashes a massive power surge killing all of the alternate Angstroms, and turning him into a deformed and insane supervillain looking for revenge.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* GoodCounterpart: This actually bites Mark in the ass here ([[BeingGoodSucks But what else is new?]]), as it's mentioned that Invincible remains a heroic figure is actually an ''outlier'' amongst the various alternate universes, and most of his alternate selves are actually destructively evil in the same vein as Omni-Man, if not worse. As an example, the evil Mark seen in the episode's beginning still has feelings for Eve, which he shows by giving her a precisely-calculated NeckSnap to leave her alive but paralyzed, so he can keep visiting her, despite her clear hatred for him. As a result, when Angstrom gets the memories of his alternate selves merged into his current body, he undergoes IdentityBreakdown and comes to believe that our Mark is just as evil as the majority of his counterparts, despite the scarred Mauler Twin even telling him how little fault Mark actually had in his transformation.

to:

* GoodCounterpart: This actually bites Mark in the ass here ([[BeingGoodSucks But what else is new?]]), as it's mentioned that Invincible remains remaining a heroic figure is actually an ''outlier'' amongst the various alternate universes, and most of his alternate selves are actually destructively evil in the same vein as Omni-Man, if not worse. As an example, the evil Mark seen in the episode's beginning still has feelings for Eve, which he shows by giving her a precisely-calculated NeckSnap to leave her alive but paralyzed, so he can keep visiting her, despite her clear hatred for him. As a result, when Angstrom gets the memories of his alternate selves merged into his current body, he undergoes IdentityBreakdown and comes to believe that our Mark is just as evil as the majority of his counterparts, despite the scarred Mauler Twin even telling him how little fault Mark actually had in his transformation.



* IdentityBreakdown: Made worse by the identity in question being ''the same person''. Angstrom trying to stop the violence between Invincible and the Mauler twins gets him turned into a BodyHorror mutant with a brain so large it grows down his neck and over his back, as a result of his brain meshed together with all the alternative versions of himself he was connecting too. This results in their memories getting mixed into his and Angstrom losing track of which universe his current body is actually from, believing that the Invincible that interrupted his experiment is just as bad/the same Invincible as his EvilCounterpart in other dimensions. This leaves him with a burning desire for {{Revenge}} against him despite Mark being pretty blameless for his current condition, as the scarred Mauler Twin points out.

to:

* IdentityBreakdown: Made worse by the identity in question being ''the same person''. Angstrom trying to stop the violence between Invincible and the Mauler twins gets him turned into a BodyHorror mutant with a brain so large it grows down his neck and over his back, as a result of his brain being meshed together with all the alternative versions of himself he was connecting too.to. This results in their memories getting mixed into his and Angstrom losing track of which universe his current body is actually from, believing that the Invincible that interrupted his experiment is just as bad/the same Invincible as his EvilCounterpart in other dimensions. This leaves him with a burning desire for {{Revenge}} against him despite Mark being pretty blameless for his current condition, as the scarred Mauler Twin points out.

Added: 1164

Changed: 1055

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Mark struggles to come to terms with his father's true nature after their brutal battle.
----



* BaitAndSwitch: The opening has The Immortal and Invincible fighting, which will catch those who haven't read the comics off-guard while those who did believe it to be the confrontation due to the former's distrust of the latter. Then Omni-Man shows up and the two brutally murder the superhero before moving on to a ruined cityscape revealing this to be an AlternateUniverse.

to:

* BaitAndSwitch: BaitAndSwitch:
**
The opening has The Immortal and Invincible fighting, which will catch those who haven't read the comics off-guard while those who did believe it to be the confrontation due to the former's distrust of the latter. Then Omni-Man shows up and the two brutally murder the superhero before moving on to a ruined cityscape revealing this to be an AlternateUniverse.



** Todd tries to connect with Mark about their fathers and how losing them can hurts even if the father was terrible like Todd's is.

to:

** Todd tries to connect with Mark about their fathers and how losing them can hurts hurt even if the father was terrible like Todd's is.



* ConditionedToAcceptHorror: Both Omni-Man and Mark treat killing people with complete banality. Before they kill the resistance fighters, Omni-Man casually says that he missed lunch and feels hungry. Mark performing [[NeckSnap Neck Snaps]] on a bunch of protestors a week prior was odd to Omni-Man, but not unusual enough for him to ask about it.

to:

* ConditionedToAcceptHorror: Both Alternate Omni-Man and Mark treat killing people with complete banality. Before they kill the resistance fighters, Omni-Man casually says that he missed lunch and feels hungry. Mark performing [[NeckSnap Neck Snaps]] on a bunch of protestors a week prior was odd to Omni-Man, but not unusual enough for him to ask about it.



* DeerInTheHeadlights: Rudy freezes up when he's about to be crushed by The Giant. He can only describe the physiological symptoms, and Monster-Girl has to explain to him that he'd experienced fear of death.

to:

* DeerInTheHeadlights: Rudy freezes up when he's about to be crushed by The Giant. He can only describe the physiological symptoms, and Monster-Girl has to explain to him that he'd he just experienced fear of death. death, having previously never fought on the front lines.



* NoSell: Alternate Omni-Man is briefly surprised and pushed back by the WaveMotionGun that the rebels thought was their last hope of defeating him, but swiftly merges unscathed from the rubble and Alternate Invincible effortlessly swats away Alternate Eve's energy constructs.

to:

* NoSell: NoSell:
**
Alternate Omni-Man is briefly surprised and pushed back by the WaveMotionGun that the rebels thought was their last hope of defeating him, but swiftly merges emerges unscathed from the rubble and before Rudy can fire another shot.
**
Alternate Invincible effortlessly swats away Alternate Eve's energy constructs.constructs and crashes through her barriers without even slowing down.



* TemptingFate: Lampshaded. When one Mauler twin remarks that their machine is on track to work flawlessly, the other tells him not to say that. When the twin asks why, Invincible bursts in, and the other twin says that's why.

to:

* TemptingFate: TemptingFate:
** The alternate Angstrom believes the Immortal successfully led Invincible and Omni-Man away. Cue them bursting through the ceiling.
**
Lampshaded. When one Mauler twin remarks that their machine is on track to work flawlessly, the other tells him not to say that. When the twin asks why, Invincible bursts in, and the other twin says that's why.



* ThereAreNoTherapists: Debbie and Mark are clearly suffering from PTSD and maybe something else. But with all his power Cecil just tells Mark to wait for recovery. Debbie resorts to drinking a lot and is comforted by Olga a little, stating that she has nobody to talk to. Mark is comforted by Amber, but she also has to push him to talk.

to:

* ThereAreNoTherapists: Debbie and Mark are clearly suffering from PTSD and maybe something else. But with all his power Cecil just tells Mark to wait for recovery. Debbie resorts to drinking a lot and is comforted by Olga a little, stating that she has nobody to talk to. Mark is comforted by Amber, but she also has to push him to talk. Granted, it's not like normal therapists can deal with their issues, but you'd think Cecil would have someone on staff with the right clearance.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** The episode plays with the series' running gag of [[SmashCut Smash Cutting]] to the TitleCard whenever someone is about to say "Invincible" with it only properly happening at the end of the episode.


Added DiffLines:

* OnPatrolMontage: Mark is shown stopping crimes and saving people set to {{Music/Radiohead}}'s "Karma Police".

Added: 1117

Changed: 237

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TechnicalPacifist: Angstrom declares himself a pacifist, but regretfully orders the Maulers to attack Invincible to prevent him from stopping their machine. However, he refuses to commit MurderByInaction when the Maulers intend to beat Invincible to death.

to:

* TechnicalPacifist: TechnicalPacifist:
**
Angstrom declares himself a pacifist, but regretfully orders the Maulers to attack Invincible to prevent him from stopping their machine. However, he refuses to commit MurderByInaction when the Maulers intend to beat Invincible to death.death.
** Mark zigzags this during the montage of his heroics, going out of his way to use his superpowers in an indirect fashion to resolve many of the mundane emergencies, such as a raging fire or a high-speed gunfight, without needing to confront the relatively-fragile humans directly, whilst being willing to use his SuperStrength against the Elephant to knock him out swiftly. On seeing two super villains performing a bank heist in the middle of the city however, his PTSD memories of the devastation caused by his fight with Omni-Man make him freeze up and eventually leave dealing with them to the GDA. When he confronts the [[MadeOfIron very-durable]] Mauler Twins in an isolated area however, he showcases excitement for [[PercussiveTherapy a knock-down therapeutic fight]] against two individuals he can cut loose against without fear of civilians getting dragged into it.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* NoSell: Alternate Omni-Man is unphased by the WaveMotionGun that the rebels thought was their last hope of defeating him, and Alternate Invincible effortlessly swats away Alternate Eve's energy constructs.

to:

* NoSell: Alternate Omni-Man is unphased briefly surprised and pushed back by the WaveMotionGun that the rebels thought was their last hope of defeating him, but swiftly merges unscathed from the rubble and Alternate Invincible effortlessly swats away Alternate Eve's energy constructs.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

-->'''Alternate Angstrom:''' Don't touch me!\\
'''Evil Invincible:''' (''Holding his hands up in a "Calm Down" gesture'') Hey Buddy, you sentenced ''yourself'' to death when you joined club resistance.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CallBack: Bulletproof is introduced wearing the first suit that Art tried to give to Invincible.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
There Are No Therapists

Added DiffLines:

* ThereAreNoTherapists: Debbie and Mark are clearly suffering from PTSD and maybe something else. But with all his power Cecil just tells Mark to wait for recovery. Debbie resorts to drinking a lot and is comforted by Olga a little, stating that she has nobody to talk to. Mark is comforted by Amber, but she also has to push him to talk.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AdaptationalContextChange: In the comics, Angstrom's motive for revenge was for the BodyHorror he suffered and his mind being screwed with from the procedure being interrupted, [[MotiveDecay becoming obsessed with killing Invincible after each failure.]] It is only ''far'' later that he belatedly realizes his animosity had been fueled by the memory merge conflating his understanding of this Invincible with the majority who turned on humanity, [[spoiler:a HeelRealization immediately followed by RedemptionEqualsDeath]]. Here, that element is introduced from the start and given more focus, to the extent that being disfigured barely distresses him compared to his grief at his numerous alternate loved ones killed by an Invincible, and he asserts that he considers all his alternate experiences to be his even when the situation is explained to him prior to choosing vengeance.

to:

* AdaptationalContextChange: In the comics, Angstrom's motive for revenge was for the BodyHorror he suffered and his mind being screwed with from the procedure being interrupted, [[MotiveDecay becoming obsessed with killing Invincible after each failure.]] It is only ''far'' later that he belatedly realizes his animosity had been fueled by the memory merge conflating his understanding of this Invincible with the majority who turned on humanity, [[spoiler:a HeelRealization immediately followed by RedemptionEqualsDeath]]. Here, that element is introduced from the start and given more focus, to the extent that being disfigured barely distresses him compared to less than his grief at his numerous alternate loved ones killed by an Invincible, and he asserts that he considers all his alternate experiences to be his even when the situation is explained to him prior to choosing vengeance.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Todd tries to connect with Mark about the deaths of their fathers and how it hurts even if the father was terrible like Todd's was. Todd thinks the difference between them is that Mark's father was actually a good one, unaware that he was actually ''worse'', but he's not truly dead.

to:

** Todd tries to connect with Mark about the deaths of their fathers and how it losing them can hurts even if the father was terrible like Todd's was. Todd thinks the difference between them is that Mark's father was actually a good one, unaware that he was actually ''worse'', but he's not truly dead.is.

Added: 825

Changed: 467

Removed: 152

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AGodAmI: The payment the Mauler twins want for their service is a dimension with no superheroes, good food, and a population that considers them gods.



* CruelMercy: Alternate!Omni-Man and Alternate!Invincible both refrain from finishes off Alternate!Rudy and Alternate!Eve, the former allowed to die more slowly and painfully, and the latter given a FateWorseThanDeath that he seems to still consider a mercy.

to:

* CruelMercy: Alternate!Omni-Man Alternate Omni-Man and Alternate!Invincible Alternate Invincible both refrain from finishes finishing off Alternate!Rudy Alternate Rudy and Alternate!Eve, Alternate Eve, the former allowed to die more slowly and painfully, and the latter given a FateWorseThanDeath that he seems to still consider a mercy.



* DefiantToTheEnd: Alternate!Rudy and Alternate!Eve both continue resisting Alternate!Omni-Man and Alternate!Invincible even after their last hope weapon proved ineffective. On the brink of death, Rudy gives Omni-Man one last barb, while Eve insists to Invincible that death is her preference. Unfortunately for her, Invincible doesn't respect that wish.

to:

* DefiantToTheEnd: Alternate!Rudy Alternate Rudy and Alternate!Eve Alternate Eve both continue resisting Alternate!Omni-Man Alternate Omni-Man and Alternate!Invincible Alternate Invincible even after their last hope weapon proved ineffective. On the brink of death, Rudy gives Omni-Man one last barb, while Eve insists to Invincible that death is her preference. Unfortunately for her, Invincible doesn't respect that wish.



* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: The Mauler twin's "You told us you were special!" reaction to learning Angstrom was working with alternate Maulers despite his claims otherwise brings to mind a reaction to romantic infidelity.

to:

* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: The Mauler twin's "You told us you we were special!" reaction to learning Angstrom was working with alternate Maulers despite his claims otherwise brings to mind a reaction to romantic infidelity.



* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: PlayedForHorror with Alternate!Invincible and Alternate!Eve. Alternate!Invincible still has feelings for her, and doesn't want to kill her so he paralyzes her so he can still visit her and ensures that there are people who will care for her. The tone of his voice is rather somber despite his grotesque and entitled actions. It's not unlike how Nolan described Debbie as being a pet, something he loves but also something he owns.

to:

* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: PlayedForHorror with Alternate!Invincible Alternate Invincible and Alternate!Eve. Alternate!Invincible Alternate Eve. Alternate Invincible still has feelings for her, and doesn't want to kill her so he paralyzes her so he can still visit her and ensures that there are people who will care for her. The tone of his voice is rather somber despite his grotesque and entitled actions. It's not unlike how Nolan described Debbie as being a pet, something he loves but also something he owns.



* EveryoneHasStandards: Despite disliking Invincible and being irritated by his interference with Angstrom's experiment, not to mention in considerable pain from the fallout explosion of that, the scarred and disfigured Mauler Twin actually speaks up in his defense when the mutated Angstrom starts blaming Invincible for his new [[MyBrainIsBig deformity]], pointing out it was Angstrom's own decision to take off the helmet that was more to blame and realizing that he's getting his memories mixed up with his alternative selves when he starts babbling about Mark going on a killing spree in the millions. Even if Mark's reputation as Omni-Man's son has put him in a bad spot with the public, the Mauler Twin won't unfairly blame him for actions he hasn't done.

to:

* EveryoneHasStandards: Despite disliking Invincible and being irritated by his interference with Angstrom's experiment, not to mention in considerable pain from the fallout explosion of that, the scarred and disfigured Mauler Twin actually speaks up in his defense when the mutated Angstrom starts blaming Invincible for his new [[MyBrainIsBig deformity]], pointing out it was Angstrom's own decision to take off the helmet that was more to blame and realizing that he's getting his memories mixed up with his alternative selves when he starts babbling about Mark going on a killing spree in the millions. Even if Mark's reputation as Omni-Man's son has put him in a bad spot with the public, the Mauler Twin won't unfairly blame him for actions he hasn't done. It helps that the Mauler Twin has had half his body fried by Angstrom's stupidity, so he's in no mood to be charitable.



* FauxAffablyEvil: Despite Alternate Evil Mark's insistence that this is for the good of humanity, he and Omni-Man are flippantly cruel about slaughtering humans.

to:

* FauxAffablyEvil: Despite Alternate Evil Mark's insistence that this is for the good of humanity, he and Omni-Man are flippantly cruel about slaughtering humans.humans.
* AGodAmI: The payment the Mauler twins want for their service is a dimension with no superheroes, good food, and a population that considers them gods.



* KickTheDog: Plenty from Alternate!Invincible and Alternate!Omni-Man, but special mention goes to Alternate!Invincible performing a NeckSnap on protestors just to practice his ability to give Alternate!Eve a FateWorseThanDeath.

to:

* KickTheDog: Plenty from Alternate!Invincible Alternate Invincible and Alternate!Omni-Man, Alternate Omni-Man, but special mention goes to Alternate!Invincible Alternate Invincible performing a NeckSnap on protestors just to practice his ability to give Alternate!Eve Alternate Eve a FateWorseThanDeath.



* IrrevocableOrder: Due to the design of Angstrom's machine, once the Maulers activate it, the process can't be aborted without potentially killing him. When he removes the helmet to save Invincible, he winds up being turned into a mutant.



* NeckSnap: Alternate!Mark snaps Alternate!Eve's neck in a way that leaves her alive but paralyzed, leading Alternate!Omni-Man to realize ''that's'' what he was practicing with the protester's last week.

to:

* NeckSnap: Alternate!Mark Alternate Mark snaps Alternate!Eve's Alternate Eve's neck in a way that leaves her alive but paralyzed, leading Alternate!Omni-Man Alternate Omni-Man to realize ''that's'' what he was practicing with the protester's protesters last week.



* NoSell: Alternate!Omni-Man is unphased by the WaveMotionGun that the rebels thought was their last hope of defeating him, and Alternate!Invincible effortlessly swats away Alternate!Eve's energy constructs.
* NotAfraidToDie: When Alternate Robot uses [[DyingDeclarationOfHate his last words]] to tell Omni-Man that he ''will'' die one day, even if he shrugged off the resistance's best efforts against him, he somewhat chipperly affirms this, showcasing that he's unafraid of his own mortality as per his Social Darwinist beliefs, and further demonstrating this when he retorts to Robot that he's somebody who "should have died at birth", leaving him to slowly die from his life-support being broken.

to:

* NoSell: Alternate!Omni-Man Alternate Omni-Man is unphased by the WaveMotionGun that the rebels thought was their last hope of defeating him, and Alternate!Invincible Alternate Invincible effortlessly swats away Alternate!Eve's Alternate Eve's energy constructs.
* NotAfraidToDie: When Alternate Robot uses [[DyingDeclarationOfHate his last words]] to tell Omni-Man that he ''will'' die one day, even if he shrugged off the resistance's best efforts against him, he somewhat chipperly affirms this, showcasing that he's unafraid of his own mortality as per his Social Darwinist beliefs, and further demonstrating this when he retorts to Robot that he's somebody who "should have died at birth", leaving him to slowly die from his life-support being broken. Of course, Nolan's lifespan far exceeds any normal human and he's NighInvulnerable, so his flippant reaction makes sense given how far off that fate is.



* PoorCommunicationKills: When Invincible goes to the Maulers, the Maulers don't bother explaining how dangerous stopping the experiment would be, rather just goading Invincible to fight them. Cecil is likewise unconcerned and just tells Mark to shut it down and not ask questions. Angstrom also just tells Mark what he's doing is for the greater good, without explaining further (Though being connected to a thousand other minds likely impacted his communication skills). This leads to Mark nearly getting beaten to death by alternate Maulers, then Angstrom stopping the experiment, causing a massive explosion that kills all of the alternate Maulers and Angstroms.

to:

* PoorCommunicationKills: When Invincible goes to the Maulers, the Maulers don't bother explaining how dangerous stopping the experiment would be, rather just goading Invincible to fight them. Cecil is likewise unconcerned and just tells Mark to shut it down and not ask questions. Angstrom also just tells Mark what he's doing is for the greater good, without explaining further (Though (though being connected to a thousand other minds likely impacted his communication skills). This leads to Mark nearly getting beaten to death by alternate Maulers, then Angstrom stopping the experiment, causing a massive explosion that kills all of the alternate Maulers and Angstroms.



* SimpleSolutionWontWork: Seeing the gigantic mind-melding contraption Angstrom has rigged up to combine his knowledge with that of his doubles, the Mauler Twins point out he could simply ''ask them questions''. Angstrom explains that this won't work because he needs to be able to see the full scope of the multiverse to parse the information he needs, likening it to being able to see the entire puzzle instead of individual pieces.



* WhyDidYouMakeMeHitYou: Mark asks Eve why she made him kill ''innocent people'', putting the full blame on her.

to:

* WhyDidYouMakeMeHitYou: Mark asks Eve why she made him kill ''innocent people'', putting the full blame on her. On a broader scale, he places the blame for all the destruction and death he causes on the people rebelling against him and Omni-Man.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* NotAfraidToDie: When Alternate Robot uses [[DyingDeclarationOfHate his last words]] to tell Omni-Man that he ''will'' die one day, even if he shrugged off the resistance's best efforts against him, he somewhat chipperly affirms this, showcasing that he's unafraid of his own mortality as per his Social Darwinist beliefs, and further demonstrating this when he retorts to Robot that he's somebody who "should have died at birth", leaving him to slowly die from his life-support being broken.


Added DiffLines:

* NotWorthKilling: Omni-Man showcases his contempt of the deformed and helpless Robot's true form when he renders his exosuit broken beyond repair and the tank that sustains Robot's health cracked and draining, refusing to strike the final blow to quickly finish him off whilst mocking the malformed Rudolph that he was somebody who should have died at birth from his condition, leaving him to perish from the natural environment instead as per his beliefs.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* NoSell: Alternate!Omni-Man is unphased by the WaveMotionGun that the rebels thought was their last hope of defeating him, and Alternate!Invincible effortlessly swats away Alternate!Eve's energy constructs.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* MistakenIdentity: Mark is alarmed when the Immortal approaches him at night, confusing him for Omni-Man. Once the Immortal floats into the light, Mark relaxes.

Top