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Finn confronts the power behind Founders Island, but will he ever return home to Ooo?
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!!Tropes:
* AmbiguousSituation:
** During their goodbye, Finn asks Minerva if she is fully herself after uploading her brain. Minerva says she doesn't really know, but feels like she is, and hopes that's good enough.
** Susan and Frieda give off much, much heavier HomoeroticSubtext than we see with even Bubblegum and Marceline, especially in the way they part with Finn and Jake.
* AnAesop: It's okay to choose safety over freedom as long as the choice is yours.
* BittersweetEnding: Everyone who wants to leave the Island gets to and Finn goes out on good terms with his mother, but since Ooo is so far away and she ''can't'' leave, they won't be able to see each other very much.
* BreastAttack: When Finn fails to get a crowd's attention, Jake gives him a titty twister, Finn ScreamsLikeALittleGirl, and everyone looks.
* BrainUploading: Minerva advises Finn to move his body onto the same network she put herself on so he'll never be in danger again. When Finn starts to get people who want to leave with him, she decides to cover the Islands in [[TitleDrop a Light Cloud]] that will [[UnwillingRoboticisation forcibly upload]] ''[[AssimilationPlot everyone]]'' onto the network. Finn talks her out of it.
* ButNowIMustGo: After staying for some time on the Island, Finn, Jake, and BMO take the boat out while Frieda and Kara/Susan ride off elsewhere together in their craft.
* ContinuityNod: Finn isn't hurt from the sparks flying inside the Guardian because he's still immune to to electricity since "Flute Spell".
* CrossReferencedTitles: The title references "The Dark Cloud", the last episode of the previous miniseries ''Stakes''.
* DangerRoomColdOpen: The episode seems to open skipping straight to Finn and Jake leaving Founders Island, despite the previous episode's cliffhanger. Then the guardian shows up and kills them both. Zoom out to show this is all a simulation Minerva is showing Finn to prove he shouldn't try to leave.
* DissonantSerenity: Minerva is disturbingly upbeat in explaining, and ''showing'', her son that he'll die if he tries to leave.
* EasilyForgiven: Played with; Frieda immediately forgives Kara for getting her caught, because she now thinks it was the right thing to do. Kara finds this quite disconcerting, as it means Frieda threw away everything she believed in and is [[HappinessIsMandatory repressing her negative emotions]].
-->'''Kara:''' Don't you remember you dreams of exploration?\\
'''Frieda:''' If I remember... I might get ''angry''.\\
'''Kara:''' You ''should'' be angry--[[ItsAllMyFault at me]].\\
'''Frieda:''' (dispassionately) Nah. I'm over it.
* ExpositionBeam: Finn twice sticks his (flesh) hand into an UnusualUserInterface to show his mother his life experiences, shown to the audience as a FullyAutomaticClipShow of his life's dangers and then heroism.
* HourglassPlot: When Kara and Frieda were children, Kara happily bought into the Founders' plan for everyone, while Frieda was disdainful of it and wished to escape. Since Kara left the island, Frieda's given up ever wanting to leave despite Kara's encouragement otherwise.
* IfMyCalculationsAreCorrect:
-->'''Minerva:''' By my calculations, you stand a .00001% of making it past the guardian.
* InTheBlood: It turns out that, even without ever knowing, Finn followed in his mother's footsteps of helping people.
* {{Irony}}: Minerva was emotionally devastated by losing Finn, a situation she thinks was Martin's doing that put their son in danger. In trying to perform BrainUploading on Finn in an attempt to keep him safe she is doing exactly what she believed Martin to have done.
* LesYay: Between Kara/Susan Strong and Frieda at the end of the episode. Needless to say, it may have gotten past Cartoon Network's increasingly-conservative censors, but it didn't get past the fans.
* PostClimaxConfrontation: After the climax of the episode, where Finn convinces his mother to let him go, they still have the issue of getting past the Colossus. With assistance from [[ChekhovsBoomerang Frieda's hologram]], they plug Minerva into it so she can shut it down for good.
* PutOnABus: Kara/Susan Strong departs with Frieda in a transport to explore the world, effectively writing her out of the series.
* RealityEnsues: Even though they were interested in the outside world, it turns out most of the Islands' inhabitants ''won't'' put LibertyOverProsperity by leaving, at least not immediately - they still have things to finish in their current lives. This isn't portrayed as bad; the important thing is that they're given the option.
-->'''Minerva:''' You can't teach a fish to dance overnight, son.
* RhetoricalQuestionBlunder:
-->'''Finn:''' You think the outside world is scary. Well, you know what's really scary?\\
'''Bystander 1:''' Bees!\\
'''Bystander 2:''' Germs!\\
'''Bystander 3:''' Frogs! \\
'''Bystander 4:''' Crowds!\\
''(the last bystander [[ExplainExplainOhCrap looks around and shrinks away in a panic]])''
* SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids: Kara/Susan asks Frieda why she gave up on trying to leave.
-->'''Frieda:''' I grew up, and learned to accept the Founders' truth.
* SingleTear: As Finn uses the VR helmet to experience bidding his mother farewell in person, one tear can be seen going down his face.
* StoppedReadingTooSoon: Or rather stopped listening.
-->'''Finn:''' (addressing a crowd) I know y'all like living on this tiny island 'cause it's safe and chill. But you don't have to live like this.\\
''(crowd starts to disperse; one voice can be heard saying "Alright, thank you.")''
* TakeMeInstead: Finn thinks Minerva is only trying to put everyone on the brain frame so he will stay, so he offers to join her voluntarily if she'll spare everyone else.
* TalkingTheMonsterToDeath: When Minerva insists she helps people, Finn uses his memory to show her that he does too.
-->'''Minerva''': Finn, you--[[SoProudOfYou you grew up to be a helper, too]]?\\
''(Finn nods in agreement)''\\
'''Minerva:''' If your world taught you to behave like that, maybe it's not all bad.
* TimeSkip: After Finn convinces his mother to let him go, he decides he can stay for ''a while'' and we skip forward an indeterminate amount of time to him leaving.
* WrongRestaurant: One person keeps trying to order soup at Frieda's ''toy store''.
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Finn confronts the power behind Founders Island, but will he ever return home to Ooo?
[[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screenshot_2017_03_06_10_00_51.png]]
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!!Tropes:
* AmbiguousSituation:
** During their goodbye, Finn asks Minerva if she is fully herself after uploading her brain. Minerva says she doesn't really know, but feels like she is, and hopes that's good enough.
** Susan and Frieda give off much, much heavier HomoeroticSubtext than we see with even Bubblegum and Marceline, especially in the way they part with Finn and Jake.
* AnAesop: It's okay to choose safety over freedom as long as the choice is yours.
* BittersweetEnding: Everyone who wants to leave the Island gets to and Finn goes out on good terms with his mother, but since Ooo is so far away and she ''can't'' leave, they won't be able to see each other very much.
* BreastAttack: When Finn fails to get a crowd's attention, Jake gives him a titty twister, Finn ScreamsLikeALittleGirl, and everyone looks.
* BrainUploading: Minerva advises Finn to move his body onto the same network she put herself on so he'll never be in danger again. When Finn starts to get people who want to leave with him, she decides to cover the Islands in [[TitleDrop a Light Cloud]] that will [[UnwillingRoboticisation forcibly upload]] ''[[AssimilationPlot everyone]]'' onto the network. Finn talks her out of it.
* ButNowIMustGo: After staying for some time on the Island, Finn, Jake, and BMO take the boat out while Frieda and Kara/Susan ride off elsewhere together in their craft.
* ContinuityNod: Finn isn't hurt from the sparks flying inside the Guardian because he's still immune to to electricity since "Flute Spell".
* CrossReferencedTitles: The title references "The Dark Cloud", the last episode of the previous miniseries ''Stakes''.
* DangerRoomColdOpen: The episode seems to open skipping straight to Finn and Jake leaving Founders Island, despite the previous episode's cliffhanger. Then the guardian shows up and kills them both. Zoom out to show this is all a simulation Minerva is showing Finn to prove he shouldn't try to leave.
* DissonantSerenity: Minerva is disturbingly upbeat in explaining, and ''showing'', her son that he'll die if he tries to leave.
* EasilyForgiven: Played with; Frieda immediately forgives Kara for getting her caught, because she now thinks it was the right thing to do. Kara finds this quite disconcerting, as it means Frieda threw away everything she believed in and is [[HappinessIsMandatory repressing her negative emotions]].
-->'''Kara:''' Don't you remember you dreams of exploration?\\
'''Frieda:''' If I remember... I might get ''angry''.\\
'''Kara:''' You ''should'' be angry--[[ItsAllMyFault at me]].\\
'''Frieda:''' (dispassionately) Nah. I'm over it.
* ExpositionBeam: Finn twice sticks his (flesh) hand into an UnusualUserInterface to show his mother his life experiences, shown to the audience as a FullyAutomaticClipShow of his life's dangers and then heroism.
* HourglassPlot: When Kara and Frieda were children, Kara happily bought into the Founders' plan for everyone, while Frieda was disdainful of it and wished to escape. Since Kara left the island, Frieda's given up ever wanting to leave despite Kara's encouragement otherwise.
* IfMyCalculationsAreCorrect:
-->'''Minerva:''' By my calculations, you stand a .00001% of making it past the guardian.
* InTheBlood: It turns out that, even without ever knowing, Finn followed in his mother's footsteps of helping people.
* {{Irony}}: Minerva was emotionally devastated by losing Finn, a situation she thinks was Martin's doing that put their son in danger. In trying to perform BrainUploading on Finn in an attempt to keep him safe she is doing exactly what she believed Martin to have done.
* LesYay: Between Kara/Susan Strong and Frieda at the end of the episode. Needless to say, it may have gotten past Cartoon Network's increasingly-conservative censors, but it didn't get past the fans.
* PostClimaxConfrontation: After the climax of the episode, where Finn convinces his mother to let him go, they still have the issue of getting past the Colossus. With assistance from [[ChekhovsBoomerang Frieda's hologram]], they plug Minerva into it so she can shut it down for good.
* PutOnABus: Kara/Susan Strong departs with Frieda in a transport to explore the world, effectively writing her out of the series.
* RealityEnsues: Even though they were interested in the outside world, it turns out most of the Islands' inhabitants ''won't'' put LibertyOverProsperity by leaving, at least not immediately - they still have things to finish in their current lives. This isn't portrayed as bad; the important thing is that they're given the option.
-->'''Minerva:''' You can't teach a fish to dance overnight, son.
* RhetoricalQuestionBlunder:
-->'''Finn:''' You think the outside world is scary. Well, you know what's really scary?\\
'''Bystander 1:''' Bees!\\
'''Bystander 2:''' Germs!\\
'''Bystander 3:''' Frogs! \\
'''Bystander 4:''' Crowds!\\
''(the last bystander [[ExplainExplainOhCrap looks around and shrinks away in a panic]])''
* SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids: Kara/Susan asks Frieda why she gave up on trying to leave.
-->'''Frieda:''' I grew up, and learned to accept the Founders' truth.
* SingleTear: As Finn uses the VR helmet to experience bidding his mother farewell in person, one tear can be seen going down his face.
* StoppedReadingTooSoon: Or rather stopped listening.
-->'''Finn:''' (addressing a crowd) I know y'all like living on this tiny island 'cause it's safe and chill. But you don't have to live like this.\\
''(crowd starts to disperse; one voice can be heard saying "Alright, thank you.")''
* TakeMeInstead: Finn thinks Minerva is only trying to put everyone on the brain frame so he will stay, so he offers to join her voluntarily if she'll spare everyone else.
* TalkingTheMonsterToDeath: When Minerva insists she helps people, Finn uses his memory to show her that he does too.
-->'''Minerva''': Finn, you--[[SoProudOfYou you grew up to be a helper, too]]?\\
''(Finn nods in agreement)''\\
'''Minerva:''' If your world taught you to behave like that, maybe it's not all bad.
* TimeSkip: After Finn convinces his mother to let him go, he decides he can stay for ''a while'' and we skip forward an indeterminate amount of time to him leaving.
* WrongRestaurant: One person keeps trying to order soup at Frieda's ''toy store''.
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* TakeMeInstead: Finn thinks Minerva is only trying to put everyone on the brain frame so he will stay, so he offers to join her voluntarily if she'll spare everyone else.



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Finn confronts the power behind Founders Island, but will he ever return home to Ooo?
[[quoteright:350:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screenshot_2017_03_06_10_00_51.png]]
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!!Tropes:
* AmbiguousSituation:
** During their goodbye, Finn asks Minerva if she is fully herself after uploading her brain. Minerva says she doesn't really know, but feels like she is, and hopes that's good enough.
** Susan and Frieda give off much, much heavier HomoeroticSubtext than we see with even Bubblegum and Marceline, especially in the way they part with Finn and Jake.
* AnAesop: It's okay to choose safety over freedom as long as the choice is yours.
* BittersweetEnding: Everyone who wants to leave the Island gets to and Finn goes out on good terms with his mother, but since Ooo is so far away and she ''can't'' leave, they won't be able to see each other very much.
* BreastAttack: When Finn fails to get a crowd's attention, Jake gives him a titty twister, Finn ScreamsLikeALittleGirl, and everyone looks.
* BrainUploading: Minerva advises Finn to move his body onto the same network she put herself on so he'll never be in danger again. When Finn starts to get people who want to leave with him, she decides to cover the Islands in [[TitleDrop a Light Cloud]] that will [[UnwillingRoboticisation forcibly upload]] ''[[AssimilationPlot everyone]]'' onto the network. Finn talks her out of it.
* ButNowIMustGo: After staying for some time on the Island, Finn, Jake, and BMO take the boat out while Frieda and Kara/Susan ride off elsewhere together in their craft.
* ContinuityNod: Finn isn't hurt from the sparks flying inside the Guardian because he's still immune to to electricity since "Flute Spell".
* CrossReferencedTitles: The title references "The Dark Cloud", the last episode of the previous miniseries ''Stakes''.
* DangerRoomColdOpen: The episode seems to open skipping straight to Finn and Jake leaving Founders Island, despite the previous episode's cliffhanger. Then the guardian shows up and kills them both. Zoom out to show this is all a simulation Minerva is showing Finn to prove he shouldn't try to leave.
* DissonantSerenity: Minerva is disturbingly upbeat in explaining, and ''showing'', her son that he'll die if he tries to leave.
* EasilyForgiven: Played with; Frieda immediately forgives Kara for getting her caught, because she now thinks it was the right thing to do. Kara finds this quite disconcerting, as it means Frieda threw away everything she believed in and is [[HappinessIsMandatory repressing her negative emotions]].
-->'''Kara:''' Don't you remember you dreams of exploration?\\
'''Frieda:''' If I remember... I might get ''angry''.\\
'''Kara:''' You ''should'' be angry--[[ItsAllMyFault at me]].\\
'''Frieda:''' (dispassionately) Nah. I'm over it.
* ExpositionBeam: Finn twice sticks his (flesh) hand into an UnusualUserInterface to show his mother his life experiences, shown to the audience as a FullyAutomaticClipShow of his life's dangers and then heroism.
* HourglassPlot: When Kara and Frieda were children, Kara happily bought into the Founders' plan for everyone, while Frieda was disdainful of it and wished to escape. Since Kara left the island, Frieda's given up ever wanting to leave despite Kara's encouragement otherwise.
* IfMyCalculationsAreCorrect:
-->'''Minerva:''' By my calculations, you stand a .00001% of making it past the guardian.
* InTheBlood: It turns out that, even without ever knowing, Finn followed in his mother's footsteps of helping people.
* {{Irony}}: Minerva was emotionally devastated by losing Finn, a situation she thinks was Martin's doing that put their son in danger. In trying to perform BrainUploading on Finn in an attempt to keep him safe she is doing exactly what she believed Martin to have done.
* LesYay: Between Kara/Susan Strong and Frieda at the end of the episode. Needless to say, it may have gotten past Cartoon Network's increasingly-conservative censors, but it didn't get past the fans.
* PostClimaxConfrontation: After the climax of the episode, where Finn convinces his mother to let him go, they still have the issue of getting past the Colossus. With assistance from [[ChekhovsBoomerang Frieda's hologram]], they plug Minerva into it so she can shut it down for good.
* PutOnABus: Kara/Susan Strong departs with Frieda in a transport to explore the world, effectively writing her out of the series.
* RealityEnsues: Even though they were interested in the outside world, it turns out most of the Islands' inhabitants ''won't'' put LibertyOverProsperity by leaving, at least not immediately - they still have things to finish in their current lives. This isn't portrayed as bad; the important thing is that they're given the option.
-->'''Minerva:''' You can't teach a fish to dance overnight, son.
* RhetoricalQuestionBlunder:
-->'''Finn:''' You think the outside world is scary. Well, you know what's really scary?\\
'''Bystander 1:''' Bees!\\
'''Bystander 2:''' Germs!\\
'''Bystander 3:''' Frogs! \\
'''Bystander 4:''' Crowds!\\
''(the last bystander [[ExplainExplainOhCrap looks around and shrinks away in a panic]])''
* SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids: Kara/Susan asks Frieda why she gave up on trying to leave.
-->'''Frieda:''' I grew up, and learned to accept the Founders' truth.
* SingleTear: As Finn uses the VR helmet to experience bidding his mother farewell in person, one tear can be seen going down his face.
* StoppedReadingTooSoon: Or rather stopped listening.
-->'''Finn:''' (addressing a crowd) I know y'all like living on this tiny island 'cause it's safe and chill. But you don't have to live like this.\\
''(crowd starts to disperse; one voice can be heard saying "Alright, thank you.")''
* TalkingTheMonsterToDeath: When Minerva insists she helps people, Finn uses his memory to show her that he does too.
-->'''Minerva''': Finn, you--[[SoProudOfYou you grew up to be a helper, too]]?\\
''(Finn nods in agreement)''\\
'''Minerva:''' If your world taught you to behave like that, maybe it's not all bad.
* TakeMeInstead: Finn thinks Minerva is only trying to put everyone on the brain frame so he will stay, so he offers to join her voluntarily if she'll spare everyone else.
* TimeSkip: After Finn convinces his mother to let him go, he decides he can stay for ''a while'' and we skip forward an indeterminate amount of time to him leaving.
* WrongRestaurant: One person keeps trying to order soup at Frieda's ''toy store''.
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