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->''"Does anyone else our age even listen to [[[TheNineties 90's Music]]]? Or it is just [[MostWritersAreAdults mostly 30-year-olds]] [[SelfDeprecation who tend to write characters in our age group?]]"''

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->''"Does anyone else our age even listen to [[[TheNineties 90's Music]]]? Or it is just [[MostWritersAreAdults mostly 30-year-olds]] who [[SelfDeprecation who tend to write characters in our age group?]]"''
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->''"The reason it's so hard to fit contemporary references into [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons the Simpsons]] is because even though Homer and Marge are boomers, they have the cultural trappings of the writers' parents, so they are essentially a greatest generation couple. They were anachronistic even in the 90s."''
-->--'''Haus of Decline''' on [[https://twitter.com/hausofdecline/status/1734079819317436477 Twitter]]
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->''"But there's an even bigger problem with being a copy of a copy of [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration a show]] that premiered [[TheEighties in 1987]]: you end up completely disconnected from everything happening on primetime TV in [[TurnOfTheMillennium the 2000s]]. I'm not saying ''Enterprise'' should have made misguided attempts at being "contemporary", with [[JitterCam shaky hand-held cameras]], or [[Series/TwentyFour multiple scenes unfolding in split screen]], or plot threads lasting for years (though, when the show was circling the drain, they did experiment with a season-long arc). But the simple fact is, the medium constantly evolves, and viewers constantly want something fresh and original. And it's getting harder and harder to do a TNG-style show with self-contained episodes that still feels fresh and original."''

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->''"But there's an even bigger problem with being a copy of a copy of [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration a show]] that premiered [[TheEighties in 1987]]: you end up completely disconnected from everything happening on primetime TV in [[TurnOfTheMillennium the 2000s]]. I'm not saying ''Enterprise'' should have made misguided attempts at being "contemporary", with [[JitterCam shaky hand-held cameras]], or [[Series/TwentyFour multiple scenes unfolding in split screen]], or [[KudzuPlot plot threads lasting for years years]] (though, when the show was circling the drain, they did experiment with a season-long arc). But the simple fact is, the medium constantly evolves, and viewers constantly want something fresh and original. And it's getting harder and harder to do a TNG-style show with self-contained episodes that still feels fresh and original."''
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->''But there's an even bigger problem with being a copy of a copy of [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration a show]] that premiered [[TheEighties in 1987]]: you end up completely disconnected from everything happening on primetime TV in [[TurnOfTheMillennium the 2000s]]. I'm not saying ''Enterprise'' should have made misguided attempts at being "contemporary", with [[JitterCam shaky hand-held cameras]], or [[Series/TwentyFour multiple scenes unfolding in split screen]], or plot threads lasting for years (though, when the show was circling the drain, they did experiment with a season-long arc). But the simple fact is, the medium constantly evolves, and viewers constantly want something fresh and original. And it's getting harder and harder to do a TNG-style show with self-contained episodes that still feels fresh and original.''

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->''But ->''"But there's an even bigger problem with being a copy of a copy of [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration a show]] that premiered [[TheEighties in 1987]]: you end up completely disconnected from everything happening on primetime TV in [[TurnOfTheMillennium the 2000s]]. I'm not saying ''Enterprise'' should have made misguided attempts at being "contemporary", with [[JitterCam shaky hand-held cameras]], or [[Series/TwentyFour multiple scenes unfolding in split screen]], or plot threads lasting for years (though, when the show was circling the drain, they did experiment with a season-long arc). But the simple fact is, the medium constantly evolves, and viewers constantly want something fresh and original. And it's getting harder and harder to do a TNG-style show with self-contained episodes that still feels fresh and original.''"''

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->''But there's an even bigger problem with being a copy of a copy of [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration a show]] that premiered [[TheEighties in 1987]]: you end up completely disconnected from everything happening on primetime TV in [[TurnOfTheMillennium the 2000s]]. I'm not saying ''Enterprise'' [[WereStillRelevantDammit should have made misguided attempts at being "contemporary"]], with [[JitterCam shaky hand-held cameras]], or [[Series/TwentyFour multiple scenes unfolding in split screen]], or plot threads lasting for years (though, when the show was circling the drain, they did experiment with a season-long arc). But the simple fact is, the medium constantly evolves, and viewers constantly want something fresh and original. And it's getting harder and harder to do a TNG-style show with self-contained episodes that still feels fresh and original.''

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->''But there's an even bigger problem with being a copy of a copy of [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration a show]] that premiered [[TheEighties in 1987]]: you end up completely disconnected from everything happening on primetime TV in [[TurnOfTheMillennium the 2000s]]. I'm not saying ''Enterprise'' [[WereStillRelevantDammit should have made misguided attempts at being "contemporary"]], "contemporary", with [[JitterCam shaky hand-held cameras]], or [[Series/TwentyFour multiple scenes unfolding in split screen]], or plot threads lasting for years (though, when the show was circling the drain, they did experiment with a season-long arc). But the simple fact is, the medium constantly evolves, and viewers constantly want something fresh and original. And it's getting harder and harder to do a TNG-style show with self-contained episodes that still feels fresh and original.''
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->''"Does anyone else our age even listen to [[[TheNineties 90's Music]]]? Or it is just [[SelfDeprecation mostly 30-year-olds who tend to write characters in our age group?]]"''

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->''"Does anyone else our age even listen to [[[TheNineties 90's Music]]]? Or it is just [[MostWritersAreAdults mostly 30-year-olds]] [[SelfDeprecation mostly 30-year-olds who tend to write characters in our age group?]]"''
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->''"Hi is looking stunned in the second panel here because of his teenage son's act of disrespectful rebellion: rocking out to a song released in 1975."''
-->-- '''Blog/TheComicsCurmudgeon''', on [[Music/BruceSpringsteen a song]] which was over ''three'' decades old at the time (regarding [[http://joshreads.com/images/08/10/i081008hinlois.jpg this]] ComicStrip/HiAndLois strip)



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->''"Does anyone else our age even listen to [[[TheNineties 90's Music]]]? Or it is just [[SelfDeprecation mostly 30-year-olds who tend to write characters in our age group?]]"''
-->-- '''Lionel''', ''Series/DearWhitePeople''

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!!{{Blog}}s
->''A big part of ''Dustin''[=’=]s whole deal is slamming on millennials without really understanding much by way of what millennials’ lives are actually like. The strip has made jokes about Instagram and {{Website/Twitter}} despite clearly not knowing how either of them work; so I guess it’s probably for the best that that it refuses to deal at all with the modern romance scene as facilitated by Tinder and other dating apps. Fortunately the strip has a seemingly endless supply of “guy strikes out trying to pick up chicks at a fern bar” jokes left over from [[UsefulNotes/TheEighties the ’80s]] lying around.''
-->--'''Blog/TheComicsCurmudgeon''', [[https://joshreads.com/2019/06/dustins-having-a-night-on-the-town-and-enjoying-a-big-glass-of-squints-orange-juice/ "Dustin’s having a night on the town and enjoying a big glass of [squints] orange juice"]]



->''It's a measure of how irrelevant the [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars]] have become that Creator/EddieMurphy could back out of the gig and producers thought that bringing in an even more washed-up comic would somehow rejuvenate the ceremony. Did {{Creator/Billy|Crystal}} compare movies to baseball within six seconds of strolling out onto the stage? Of course he did. Did he dress up in blackface and impersonate Creator/SammyDavisJr? Of course he did... There should've been a live from the catskills graphic on the screen during his monologue. "This is my ninth time hosting the Oscars. So tonight just call me Film/WarHorse." Take his jokes—please.''
-->--'''[[https://www.gq.com/gallery/least-influential-people-2012 Drew Magary]]''', "The Least Influential People of 2012"

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->''It's a measure of how irrelevant the [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars]] have become that Creator/EddieMurphy could back out of the gig and producers thought that bringing in an even more washed-up comic would somehow rejuvenate the ceremony. Did {{Creator/Billy|Crystal}} compare movies to baseball within six seconds of strolling out onto the stage? Of course he did. Did he dress up in blackface and impersonate Creator/SammyDavisJr? Of course he did... There should've been a live from the catskills graphic on the screen during his monologue. "This is my ninth time hosting the Oscars. So tonight just call me Film/WarHorse." Take his jokes—please.''
-->--'''[[https://www.gq.com/gallery/least-influential-people-2012 Drew Magary]]''', "The Least Influential People of 2012"



->''I mean, seriously, it’s like the seamstress went straight to [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince]] and said, “What would a rock and roller wear?” and Vince, being his [[PopCultureIsolation 20 year out of touch]] self, screamed at the top of his lungs, “''[[NewAgeRetroHippie TYE DYE]], IDIOT! WHAT ELSE?''” You know, I can totally see that happening.''
-->--'''{{Website/Wrestlecrap}}''' [[http://www.wrestlecrap.com/inductions/man-mountain-rock-to-quote-gorilla-monsoon-whatapaloozer/ on]] Wrestling/MaxxPayne's many costume changes




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->''[[Creator/CaseyKasem Kasem's]] appearance is presumably there to give the first episode a big [[RatingsStunt celebrity ratings push,]] with the logic ''“You know who the kids love? Men in their late fifties!”'' Incidentally, his hair is so badly dyed, he looks like a seabird that's been rescued from the wake of an overturned tanker.''
-->--'''Stuart Millard''', ''So Excited, So Scared: The ''Series/SavedByTheBell'' Retrospective''
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-->--'''''Blog/TheComicsCurmudgeon''''', [[https://joshreads.com/2019/06/dustins-having-a-night-on-the-town-and-enjoying-a-big-glass-of-squints-orange-juice/ "Dustin’s having a night on the town and enjoying a big glass of [squints] orange juice"]]

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-->--'''''Blog/TheComicsCurmudgeon''''', -->--'''Blog/TheComicsCurmudgeon''', [[https://joshreads.com/2019/06/dustins-having-a-night-on-the-town-and-enjoying-a-big-glass-of-squints-orange-juice/ "Dustin’s having a night on the town and enjoying a big glass of [squints] orange juice"]]



-->--'''Creator/PetraMede''', in "Love Love Peace Peace", the interval act of the ''Recap/EurovisionSongContest2016''

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-->--'''Creator/PetraMede''', -->--'''Petra Mede''', in "Love Love Peace Peace", the interval act of the ''Recap/EurovisionSongContest2016''



-->-- ''Website/TheAgonyBooth''[='s=] [[http://www.agonybooth.com/star-trek-enterprise-a-night-in-sickbay-part-1-5987 recap]] of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', "[[Recap/StarTrekEnterpriseS02E05ANightInSickbay A Night in Sickbay]]"

->''I mean, seriously, it’s like the seamstress went straight to [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince]] and said, “What would a rock and roller wear?” and Vince, being his [[PopCultureIsolation 20 year out of touch]] self, screamed at the top of his lungs, “''[[NewAgeRetroHippie TYE DYE]], IDIOT! WHAT ELSE?''” You know, I can totally see that happening.
-->--'''''{{Website/Wrestlecrap}}''''' [[http://www.wrestlecrap.com/inductions/man-mountain-rock-to-quote-gorilla-monsoon-whatapaloozer/ on]] Wrestling/MaxxPayne's many costume changes

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-->-- ''Website/TheAgonyBooth''[='s=] '''Website/TheAgonyBooth'''[='s=] [[http://www.agonybooth.com/star-trek-enterprise-a-night-in-sickbay-part-1-5987 recap]] of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', "[[Recap/StarTrekEnterpriseS02E05ANightInSickbay A Night in Sickbay]]"

->''I mean, seriously, it’s like the seamstress went straight to [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince]] and said, “What would a rock and roller wear?” and Vince, being his [[PopCultureIsolation 20 year out of touch]] self, screamed at the top of his lungs, “''[[NewAgeRetroHippie TYE DYE]], IDIOT! WHAT ELSE?''” You know, I can totally see that happening.
-->--'''''{{Website/Wrestlecrap}}'''''
happening.''
-->--'''{{Website/Wrestlecrap}}'''
[[http://www.wrestlecrap.com/inductions/man-mountain-rock-to-quote-gorilla-monsoon-whatapaloozer/ on]] Wrestling/MaxxPayne's many costume changes



->"TheFifties. Y'know, back when everything was like a sitcom from TheSeventies."'

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->"TheFifties. Y'know, back when everything was like a sitcom from TheSeventies."'"
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->'''It's a measure of how irrelevant the [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars]] have become that Creator/EddieMurphy could back out of the gig and producers thought that bringing in an even more washed-up comic would somehow rejuvenate the ceremony. Did {{Creator/Billy|Crystal}} compare movies to baseball within six seconds of strolling out onto the stage? Of course he did. Did he dress up in blackface and impersonate Creator/SammyDavisJr? Of course he did... There should've been a live from the catskills graphic on the screen during his monologue. "This is my ninth time hosting the Oscars. So tonight just call me Film/WarHorse." Take his jokes—please.''

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->'''It's ->''It's a measure of how irrelevant the [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars]] have become that Creator/EddieMurphy could back out of the gig and producers thought that bringing in an even more washed-up comic would somehow rejuvenate the ceremony. Did {{Creator/Billy|Crystal}} compare movies to baseball within six seconds of strolling out onto the stage? Of course he did. Did he dress up in blackface and impersonate Creator/SammyDavisJr? Of course he did... There should've been a live from the catskills graphic on the screen during his monologue. "This is my ninth time hosting the Oscars. So tonight just call me Film/WarHorse." Take his jokes—please.''
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->'''It's a measure of how irrelevant the [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars]] have become that Creator/EddieMurphy could back out of the gig and producers thought that bringing in an even more washed-up comic would somehow rejuvenate the ceremony. Did {{Creator/Billy|Crystal}} compare movies to baseball within six seconds of strolling out onto the stage? Of course he did. Did he dress up in blackface and impersonate Creator/SammyDavisJr? Of course he did... There should've been a live from the catskills graphic on the screen during his monologue. "This is my ninth time hosting the Oscars. So tonight just call me Film/WarHorse." Take his jokes—please.''
-->--'''[[https://www.gq.com/gallery/least-influential-people-2012 Drew Magary]]''', "The Least Influential People of 2012"
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->''I mean, seriously, it’s like the seamstress went straight to [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince]] and said, “What would a rock and roller wear?” and Vince, being his [[PopCultureIsolation 20 year out of touch]] self, screamed at the top of his lungs, “''[[NewAgeRetroHippie TYE DYE]], IDIOT! WHAT ELSE?''” You know, I can totally see that happening.
-->--'''''{{Website/Wrestlecrap}}''''' [[http://www.wrestlecrap.com/inductions/man-mountain-rock-to-quote-gorilla-monsoon-whatapaloozer/ on]] Wrestling/MaxxPayne's many costume changes


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->''[[Creator/CaseyKasem Kasem's]] appearance is presumably there to give the first episode a big [[RatingsStunt celebrity ratings push,]] with the logic ''“You know who the kids love? Men in their late fifties!”'' Incidentally, his hair is so badly dyed, he looks like a seabird that's been rescued from the wake of an overturned tanker.''
-->--'''Stuart Millard''', ''So Excited, So Scared: The ''Series/SavedByTheBell'' Retrospective''

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->So, UsefulNotes/BarackObama give it up. You're stuck with TheSixties' battles. Even you acceptance speech tonight is on the 45th anniversary of Dr. King's "I Have a Dream" speech, the very movement of the Earth around the Sun is keeping you in the 60s. (Sun actually goes around Obama) We stick with these 40-year-old battles because they are comfortable and familiar. We know how to take sides in these arguments. Besides, if we didn't, we'd have to address the problems of the present, and who wants to do that? Those things are monsters! ([[TakeThat Created in Cheney's lab]])\\
So, let us keep fighting the culture wars of our grandparents, never mind that 50 percent of today's Americans weren't even born when these arguments mattered. (Less Hanoi Hilton, more Paris Hilton) They are still relevant today, the 60s are a political gift that keeps on giving because they are wounds our country can never heal. (As long as we keep picking at it)
-->-- '''Creator/StephenColbert''', ''Series/TheColbertReport'', "The Word: Acid Flashback", on the 2008 Democratic National Convention


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->So, UsefulNotes/BarackObama give it up. You're stuck with TheSixties' battles. Even you acceptance speech tonight !!{{Blog}}s
->''A big part of ''Dustin''[=’=]s whole deal
is slamming on the 45th anniversary millennials without really understanding much by way of Dr. King's "I Have a Dream" speech, the very movement of the Earth around the Sun is keeping you in the 60s. (Sun what millennials’ lives are actually goes around Obama) We stick like. The strip has made jokes about Instagram and {{Website/Twitter}} despite clearly not knowing how either of them work; so I guess it’s probably for the best that that it refuses to deal at all with these 40-year-old battles because they are comfortable the modern romance scene as facilitated by Tinder and familiar. We know how to take sides in these arguments. Besides, if we didn't, we'd have to address other dating apps. Fortunately the problems strip has a seemingly endless supply of “guy strikes out trying to pick up chicks at a fern bar” jokes left over from [[UsefulNotes/TheEighties the present, and who wants to do that? Those things are monsters! ([[TakeThat Created in Cheney's lab]])\\
So, let us keep fighting the culture wars of our grandparents, never mind that 50 percent of today's Americans weren't even born when these arguments mattered. (Less Hanoi Hilton, more Paris Hilton) They are still relevant today, the 60s are
’80s]] lying around.''
-->--'''''Blog/TheComicsCurmudgeon''''', [[https://joshreads.com/2019/06/dustins-having-a-night-on-the-town-and-enjoying-a-big-glass-of-squints-orange-juice/ "Dustin’s having
a political gift that keeps on giving because they are wounds our country can never heal. (As long as we keep picking at it)
-->-- '''Creator/StephenColbert''', ''Series/TheColbertReport'', "The Word: Acid Flashback",
night on the 2008 Democratic National Convention

town and enjoying a big glass of [squints] orange juice"]]

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-->--Creator/PetraMede, in "Love Love Peace Peace", the interval act of the ''Recap/EurovisionSongContest2016''

->''"TheFifties. Y'know, back when everything was like a sitcom from TheSeventies."''
-->--'''Phineas Flynn''', ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb''

->But there's an even bigger problem with being a copy of a copy of [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration a show]] that premiered [[TheEighties in 1987]]: you end up completely disconnected from everything happening on primetime TV in [[TurnOfTheMillennium the 2000s]]. I'm not saying ''Enterprise'' [[WereStillRelevantDammit should have made misguided attempts at being "contemporary"]], with [[JitterCam shaky hand-held cameras]], or multiple scenes unfolding in split screen, or plot threads lasting for years (though, when the show was circling the drain, they did experiment with a season-long arc). But the simple fact is, the medium constantly evolves, and viewers constantly want something fresh and original. And it's getting harder and harder to do a TNG-style show with self-contained episodes that still feels fresh and original.

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-->--Creator/PetraMede, -->--'''Creator/PetraMede''', in "Love Love Peace Peace", the interval act of the ''Recap/EurovisionSongContest2016''

->''"TheFifties. Y'know, back when everything was like a sitcom from TheSeventies."''
-->--'''Phineas Flynn''', ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb''

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->"TheFifties. Y'know, back when everything was like a sitcom from TheSeventies."'
-->--'''Phineas Flynn''', ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb''
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-->-- '''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''s [[http://www.agonybooth.com/star-trek-enterprise-a-night-in-sickbay-part-1-5987 recap]] of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', "[[Recap/StarTrekEnterpriseS02E05ANightInSickbay A Night in Sickbay]]"

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-->-- '''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''s ''Website/TheAgonyBooth''[='s=] [[http://www.agonybooth.com/star-trek-enterprise-a-night-in-sickbay-part-1-5987 recap]] of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', "[[Recap/StarTrekEnterpriseS02E05ANightInSickbay A Night in Sickbay]]"

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->So, UsefulNotes/BarackObama give it up. You're stuck with TheSixties' battles. Even you acceptance speech tonight is on the 45th anniversary of Dr. King's "I Have a Dream" speech, the very movement of the Earth around the Sun is keeping you in the 60s. (Sun actually goes around Obama) We stick with these 40-year-old battles because they are comfortable and familiar. We know how to take sides in these arguments. Besides, if we didn't, we'd have to address the problems of the present, and who wants to do that? Those things are monsters! ([[TakeThat Created in Cheney's lab]])

->So, let us keep fighting the culture wars of our grandparents, never mind that 50 percent of today's Americans weren't even born when these arguments mattered. (Less Hanoi Hilton, more Paris Hilton) They are still relevant today, the 60s are a political gift that keeps on giving because they are wounds our country can never heal. (As long as we keep picking at it)

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->So, UsefulNotes/BarackObama give it up. You're stuck with TheSixties' battles. Even you acceptance speech tonight is on the 45th anniversary of Dr. King's "I Have a Dream" speech, the very movement of the Earth around the Sun is keeping you in the 60s. (Sun actually goes around Obama) We stick with these 40-year-old battles because they are comfortable and familiar. We know how to take sides in these arguments. Besides, if we didn't, we'd have to address the problems of the present, and who wants to do that? Those things are monsters! ([[TakeThat Created in Cheney's lab]])

->So,
lab]])\\
So,
let us keep fighting the culture wars of our grandparents, never mind that 50 percent of today's Americans weren't even born when these arguments mattered. (Less Hanoi Hilton, more Paris Hilton) They are still relevant today, the 60s are a political gift that keeps on giving because they are wounds our country can never heal. (As long as we keep picking at it)

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