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** ''TabletopGame/PrincessTheHopeful'' actually presents two possible futures, owing to the very disparate natures of its antagonists: one where the Darkness managed to destroy the Light and bring about a second Fall, purging hope from the world and leaving behind a dark and depraved place, and one where the Queen of Storms managed to comprehensively annihilate the the Darkness—and ''the entire world'' in the process. The nature of this Deluge is hauntingly embodied by the Celestial Ocean: whereas in all other Deluge variants it is flooded over with corrupted water, this scenario has it ''completely bone-dry''.

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** ''TabletopGame/PrincessTheHopeful'' actually presents two possible futures, owing to the very disparate natures of its antagonists: one where the Darkness managed to destroy the Light and bring about a second Fall, purging hope from the world and leaving behind a dark and depraved place, and one where the Queen of Storms managed to comprehensively annihilate the the Darkness—and ''the entire world'' in the process. The incomprehensibly severe nature of this second Deluge is hauntingly embodied by the its Celestial Ocean: whereas in all other Deluge variants it is flooded over with corrupted water, this scenario has it ''completely bone-dry''.''[[SaltTheEarth completely bone-dry]]''.
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** ''TabletopGame/LeviathanTheTempest'' actually appears either the least bad or the most horrific. The world has been fully flooded to the point that the mountains have been submerged, and the ocean is filled with hybrids and Leviathans whose cultures are constantly changing or being replaced in bloody conflicts. Some of these Leviathans are even as huge as nations! But that's not the worst part. The worst part is that most of the Leviathans present are '''fully aware''' that they're in a possible future, and see absolutely nothing wrong with making Sirens into servants to ensure it happens.
** ''TabletopGame/PrincessTheHopeful'' actually gives us two possible futures: one where the Darkness managed to entirely destroy the Light, leaving the world a dark, desolated place with no hope... and one where the Queen of Storms not only managed to destroy the Darkness, but has now fully annihilated the entire world which is reflected by the Celestial Ocean, which in all cases is flooded with water, is absolutely devoid of it!

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** ''TabletopGame/LeviathanTheTempest'' actually appears either the least bad or the most horrific. The world has been fully flooded to the point that the mountains have been submerged, and the ocean is filled with hybrids and Leviathans whose cultures are constantly changing or being replaced in bloody conflicts. Some of these Leviathans are even as huge as nations! But that's not the worst part. The worst part is that most of the Leviathans present are '''fully aware''' ''fully aware'' that they're in a possible future, and see absolutely nothing wrong with making Sirens into servants to ensure it happens.
** ''TabletopGame/PrincessTheHopeful'' actually gives us presents two possible futures: futures, owing to the very disparate natures of its antagonists: one where the Darkness managed to entirely destroy the Light, leaving Light and bring about a second Fall, purging hope from the world and leaving behind a dark, desolated place with no hope... dark and depraved place, and one where the Queen of Storms not only managed to destroy comprehensively annihilate the Darkness, but has now fully annihilated the Darkness—and ''the entire world which world'' in the process. The nature of this Deluge is reflected hauntingly embodied by the Celestial Ocean, which Ocean: whereas in all cases other Deluge variants it is flooded over with corrupted water, is absolutely devoid of it!this scenario has it ''completely bone-dry''.
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** ''TabletopGame/LeviathanTheTempest'' actually appears either the least bad or the most horrific. The world has been fully flooded to the point that the mountains have been submerged, and the ocean is filled with hybrids and Leviathans whose cultures are constantly changing or being replaced in bloody conflicts. Some of these Leviathans are even as huge as nations! But that's not the worst part. The worst part is that most of the Leviathans present are '''fully aware''' that they're in a possible future, and see absolutely nothing wrong with making Sirens into servants to ensure it happens.
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** ''TabletopGame/PrincessTheHopeful'' actually gives us two possible futures: one where the Darkness managed to entirely destroy the Light, leaving the world a dark, desolated place with no hope... and one where the Light not only managed to destroy the Darkness, but has now gone full KnightTemplar and illuminates the entire world, destroying anything remotely dark or evil, to the point people constantly try their best to act friendly and pleasant ''[[CrapsaccharineWorld because they are utterly terrorized at the idea they might be judged and obliterated]]''.

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** ''TabletopGame/PrincessTheHopeful'' actually gives us two possible futures: one where the Darkness managed to entirely destroy the Light, leaving the world a dark, desolated place with no hope... and one where the Light Queen of Storms not only managed to destroy the Darkness, but has now gone full KnightTemplar and illuminates fully annihilated the entire world, destroying anything remotely dark or evil, to world which is reflected by the point people constantly try their best to act friendly and pleasant ''[[CrapsaccharineWorld because they are utterly terrorized at the idea they might be judged and obliterated]]''.Celestial Ocean, which in all cases is flooded with water, is absolutely devoid of it!
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** ''TabletopGame/HunterTheVigil'' has a world where Hunters managed to all join forces, break the Masquerade and go on a crusade against everything supernatural... [[NiceJobBreakingItHero which, because of the sheer mass of supernatural creatures or people touched by the supernatural all over the globe, has degenerated into a war so big World War III doesn't even begin to describe it]]. Cities are in ruin, blood is everywhere, and people are completely unable to trust each other.

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** ''TabletopGame/HunterTheVigil'' has a world where Hunters managed to all join forces, [[TheUnmaskedWorld break the Masquerade Masquerade]] and go on a crusade against everything supernatural... [[NiceJobBreakingItHero which, because of the sheer mass of supernatural creatures or people touched by the supernatural all over the globe, has degenerated into a war so big World War III doesn't even begin to describe it]]. Cities are in ruin, blood is everywhere, and people are completely unable to trust each other.
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** ''TabletopGame/PrincessTheHopeful'' actually gives us two possible futures: one where the Darkness managed to entirely destroy the Light, leaving the world a dark, desolated place with no hope... and one where the Light not only managed to destroy the Darkness, but has now gone full KnightTemplar and illuminates the entire world, destroying anything remotely dark or evil, to the point people constantly try their best to act friendly and pleasant ''because they are utterly terrorized at the idea they might be judged and obliterated''.

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** ''TabletopGame/PrincessTheHopeful'' actually gives us two possible futures: one where the Darkness managed to entirely destroy the Light, leaving the world a dark, desolated place with no hope... and one where the Light not only managed to destroy the Darkness, but has now gone full KnightTemplar and illuminates the entire world, destroying anything remotely dark or evil, to the point people constantly try their best to act friendly and pleasant ''because ''[[CrapsaccharineWorld because they are utterly terrorized at the idea they might be judged and obliterated''.obliterated]]''.
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** Acheron - The Abyssal Current of the Void no longer cares about Humanity, Nature, Civilization, nothing. They view the world as [[CrapsackWorld hopeless and worthless]], and [[SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum seek to cause the Deluge to end existence]]. There's a tiny glimmer of sympathy that some within the Current desire to simply use the Deluge like a [[NewEden restart button]], but it's noted that the Current is divided on this.
** Cocytus - The Abyssal Current of Dark Secrets do not have any ethics when it comes to their search for knowledge. They are mostly liable to cause pain and suffering if it means they can gain anything from it, from blackmail to destroying lives. Even the opening story starts with a Cocytus Siren allowing a SerialKiller to do his work while distracting the police from finding his footsteps until [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness he's outlived his usefulness]], all just to gain a Treasure with a Verse she wanted! Granted, not all Sirens of Cocytus are merely apathetic, some instead choose to deal with taboo subjects that other Sirens wouldn't care about....including DealWithTheDevil.

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** Acheron - The Abyssal Current of the Void no longer cares about Humanity, Nature, Civilization, nothing.and Civilization. They view the world as [[CrapsackWorld hopeless and worthless]], and [[SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum seek to cause the Deluge to end existence]]. There's a tiny glimmer of sympathy that some within the Current desire to simply use the Deluge like a [[NewEden restart button]], button]] and that [[VillainHasAPoint their complaints aren't entirely invalid]], but it's noted that the Current is divided on this.
this and they're quite extreme in their methods.
** Cocytus - The Abyssal Current of Dark Secrets do not have any ethics when it comes to their search for knowledge. They are mostly liable to cause pain and suffering if it means they can gain anything from it, from blackmail to destroying lives. Even the opening story starts with a Cocytus Siren allowing a SerialKiller to do his work while distracting the police from finding his footsteps until [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness he's outlived his usefulness]], all just to gain a Treasure with a Verse she wanted! Granted, not all Sirens of Cocytus are merely apathetic, some instead choose to deal with taboo subjects that other Sirens wouldn't care about....about, including DealWithTheDevil.



** Styx - The Abyssal Current of Primordial Darkness ([[TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial Not that kind of primordial]]) are the opposite end of Lethe, in which they chose Nature over Civilization. They hear nature's cries, how the impact of nature dying hurts the world and yet nobody cares, especially the humans who're behind it dying in the first place. Because of this, these are Sirens who believe, wholly and honestly, that Civilization and Humanity must die, and like Lethe above they're allied with the Flenser's natural opposite, the Furies and Quagmires. It doesn't help that they specialize in the Conclusion made for [[GlassShatteringSound hurting ANYTHING at all.]]

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** Styx - The Abyssal Current of Primordial Darkness ([[TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial Not that kind of primordial]]) are the opposite end of Lethe, in which they chose Nature over Civilization. They hear nature's cries, how the impact of nature dying hurts the world and yet nobody cares, especially the humans who're behind it the reason it's dying in the first place. Because of this, these are the Sirens who believe, wholly and honestly, that Civilization and Humanity must die, and like die so nature can live. Like Lethe above they're allied with the Flenser's natural opposite, the Furies and Quagmires. It doesn't help that they specialize in the Conclusion made for [[GlassShatteringSound hurting ANYTHING at all.]]
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** ''TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial'' sees the world brought back to primordial times, where people have been so abused by the Begotten they barely dare get out of their homes.

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** ''TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial'' sees the world brought back to primordial times, pre-civilized times where people Humanity was little more than another animal on the food chain and desperately trying to survive, where it was implied to have been so abused caused by the Begotten abusing people too much that they barely dare get out of their homes.broke not only humanity, but also society as we know it. [[ProperlyParanoid Is it any wonder most Sirens have]] FantasticRacism towards the Beasts?
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** Cocytus - The Abyssal Current of Dark Secrets do not have any ethics when it comes to their search for knowledge. They are mostly liable to cause pain and suffering if it means they can gain anything from it, from blackmail to destroying lives. Even the opening story starts with a Cocytus Siren allowing a SerialKiller to do his work while distracting the police from finding his footsteps until [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness he's outlived his usefulness]], all just to gain a Treasure with a verse she wanted! Granted, not all Sirens of Cocytus are merely apathetic, some instead choose to deal with taboo subjects that other Sirens wouldn't care about....including DealWithTheDevil.

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** Cocytus - The Abyssal Current of Dark Secrets do not have any ethics when it comes to their search for knowledge. They are mostly liable to cause pain and suffering if it means they can gain anything from it, from blackmail to destroying lives. Even the opening story starts with a Cocytus Siren allowing a SerialKiller to do his work while distracting the police from finding his footsteps until [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness he's outlived his usefulness]], all just to gain a Treasure with a verse Verse she wanted! Granted, not all Sirens of Cocytus are merely apathetic, some instead choose to deal with taboo subjects that other Sirens wouldn't care about....including DealWithTheDevil.



** Styx - The Abyssal Current of Primordial Darkness ([[TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial Not that kind of primordial]]) are the opposite end of Lethe, in which they chose Nature over Civilization. They hear nature's cries, how the impact of nature dying hurts the world and yet nobody cares, especially the humans who're behind it dying in the first place. Because of this, these are Sirens who believe, wholly and honestly, that Civilization and Humanity must die, and like Lethe above they're allied with the Flenser's natural opposite, the Furies and Quagmires. It doesn't help that they specialize in the conclusion made for [[GlassShatteringSound hurting ANYTHING at all.]]

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** Styx - The Abyssal Current of Primordial Darkness ([[TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial Not that kind of primordial]]) are the opposite end of Lethe, in which they chose Nature over Civilization. They hear nature's cries, how the impact of nature dying hurts the world and yet nobody cares, especially the humans who're behind it dying in the first place. Because of this, these are Sirens who believe, wholly and honestly, that Civilization and Humanity must die, and like Lethe above they're allied with the Flenser's natural opposite, the Furies and Quagmires. It doesn't help that they specialize in the conclusion Conclusion made for [[GlassShatteringSound hurting ANYTHING at all.]]
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* Even if Sirens are trying (for the most part) to do good and supposed to prevent the end of the world, they still are scary of their own when you realize their primary method to fuel their power is to ''drain your soul'' through a KissOfDeath. Sure, it's technically possible for them to not inflict durable damages to you when doing so, but when they don't show restrain, the results can be pretty devastating, from leaving you catatonic and unable to live of your own to flat-out killing you and devouring your soul entirely until nothing remains.

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* Even if Sirens are trying (for the most part) to do good and supposed to prevent the end of the world, they still are scary of their own when you realize their primary method to fuel their power is to ''drain your soul'' through a KissOfDeath. Sure, it's technically possible for them to not inflict durable damages to you when doing so, but when they don't show restrain, restraint, the results can be pretty devastating, from leaving you catatonic and unable to live of on your own to flat-out killing you and devouring your soul entirely until nothing remains.
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** Oceanus - The Abyssal Current of the Monster Queen. Remember Echidna above? This is the Current of Sirens who willingly follow her, help her in her experiments and guard over the remains of the human, or as Echidna knows them as, [[TermsOfEndangerment her beloved children]]. They believe that the Deluge is immanent so it's only natural to protect those that they love....except that they're turning them into non-sapient fish monsters robbed of all humanity.

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** Oceanus - The Abyssal Current of the Monster Queen. Remember Echidna above? This is the Current of Sirens who willingly follow her, help her in her experiments and guard over the remains of the human, or as Echidna knows them as, [[TermsOfEndangerment her beloved children]]. They believe that the Deluge is immanent imminent so it's only natural to protect those that they love....except that they're turning them into non-sapient fish monsters robbed of all humanity.



** Styx - The Abyssal Current of Primordial Darkness ([[TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial Not that kind of primordial]]) are the opposite end of Lethe, in which they chose Nature over Civilization. They hear natures cries, how the impact of nature dying hurts the world and yet nobody cares, especially the humans who're behind it dying in the first place. Because of this, these are Sirens who believe, wholly and honestly, that Civilization and Humanity must die, and like Lethe above they're allied with the Flenser's natural opposite, the Furies and Quagmires. It doesn't help that they specialize in the conclusion made for [[GlassShatteringSound hurting ANYTHING at all.]]

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** Styx - The Abyssal Current of Primordial Darkness ([[TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial Not that kind of primordial]]) are the opposite end of Lethe, in which they chose Nature over Civilization. They hear natures nature's cries, how the impact of nature dying hurts the world and yet nobody cares, especially the humans who're behind it dying in the first place. Because of this, these are Sirens who believe, wholly and honestly, that Civilization and Humanity must die, and like Lethe above they're allied with the Flenser's natural opposite, the Furies and Quagmires. It doesn't help that they specialize in the conclusion made for [[GlassShatteringSound hurting ANYTHING at all.]]
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* Even if Sirens are trying (for the most part) to do good and supposed to prevent the end of the world, they still are scary of their own when you realize their primary method to fuel their power is to ''drain your soul''. Sure, it's technically possible for them to not inflict durable damages to you when doing so, but when they don't show restrain, the results can be pretty devastating, from leaving you catatonic and unable to live of your own to flat-out killing you and devouring your soul entirely until nothing remains.

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* Even if Sirens are trying (for the most part) to do good and supposed to prevent the end of the world, they still are scary of their own when you realize their primary method to fuel their power is to ''drain your soul''.soul'' through a KissOfDeath. Sure, it's technically possible for them to not inflict durable damages to you when doing so, but when they don't show restrain, the results can be pretty devastating, from leaving you catatonic and unable to live of your own to flat-out killing you and devouring your soul entirely until nothing remains.
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** Styx - The Abyssal Current of Primordial Darkness ([[TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial Not that kind of primordial]]) are the opposite end of Lethe, in which they chose Nature over Civilization. They hear natures cries, how the impact of nature dying hurts the world and yet nobody cares, especially the humans who're behind it dying in the first place. Because of this, these are Sirens who believe, wholly and honestly, that Civilization and Humanity must die, and like Lethe above they're allied with the Flenser's natural opposite, the Furies and Quagmires. It doesn't help that they specialize in the conclusion made for [[GlassShatteringSound hurting ANYTHING at all.]]

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** Styx - The Abyssal Current of Primordial Darkness ([[TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial Not that kind of primordial]]) are the opposite end of Lethe, in which they chose Nature over Civilization. They hear natures cries, how the impact of nature dying hurts the world and yet nobody cares, especially the humans who're behind it dying in the first place. Because of this, these are Sirens who believe, wholly and honestly, that Civilization and Humanity must die, and like Lethe above they're allied with the Flenser's natural opposite, the Furies and Quagmires. It doesn't help that they specialize in the conclusion made for [[GlassShatteringSound hurting ANYTHING at all.]]]]
* Even if Sirens are trying (for the most part) to do good and supposed to prevent the end of the world, they still are scary of their own when you realize their primary method to fuel their power is to ''drain your soul''. Sure, it's technically possible for them to not inflict durable damages to you when doing so, but when they don't show restrain, the results can be pretty devastating, from leaving you catatonic and unable to live of your own to flat-out killing you and devouring your soul entirely until nothing remains.
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** ''TabletopGame/HunterTheVigil'' has a world where Hunters managed to all join forces, break the Masquerade and go on a crusade against everything supernatural... which, because of the sheer mass of supernatural creatures or people touched by the supernatural all over the globe, has degenerated into a war so big World War III doesn't even begins to describe it. Cities are in ruin, blood is everywhere, and people are completely unable to trust each other.

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** ''TabletopGame/HunterTheVigil'' has a world where Hunters managed to all join forces, break the Masquerade and go on a crusade against everything supernatural... [[NiceJobBreakingItHero which, because of the sheer mass of supernatural creatures or people touched by the supernatural all over the globe, has degenerated into a war so big World War III doesn't even begins begin to describe it.it]]. Cities are in ruin, blood is everywhere, and people are completely unable to trust each other.

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** ''TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial'' see the world brought back to primordial times, where people have been so abused by the Begotten they barely dare get out of their homes.

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** ''TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial'' see sees the world brought back to primordial times, where people have been so abused by the Begotten they barely dare get out of their homes.homes.
** ''TabletopGame/PrincessTheHopeful'' actually gives us two possible futures: one where the Darkness managed to entirely destroy the Light, leaving the world a dark, desolated place with no hope... and one where the Light not only managed to destroy the Darkness, but has now gone full KnightTemplar and illuminates the entire world, destroying anything remotely dark or evil, to the point people constantly try their best to act friendly and pleasant ''because they are utterly terrorized at the idea they might be judged and obliterated''.
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* The Crossover section reveals parts of the Celestial Ocean reflecting variants of the Deluge connected to the protagonists of the various gamelines. Here are some of them:
** ''TabletopGame/VampireTheRequiem'' has a world when the sun has been blotted out, leaving the whole planet frozen in an eternal night where vampires and Strix rule over humanity, to the point the oceans are red with the blood of their victims.
** ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheForsaken'' gives us a world where the Pure won, resulting in the spirits taking over and everything returning to a neolithic state of violence.
** ''TabletopGame/HunterTheVigil'' has a world where Hunters managed to all join forces, break the Masquerade and go on a crusade against everything supernatural... which, because of the sheer mass of supernatural creatures or people touched by the supernatural all over the globe, has degenerated into a war so big World War III doesn't even begins to describe it. Cities are in ruin, blood is everywhere, and people are completely unable to trust each other.
** ''TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial'' see the world brought back to primordial times, where people have been so abused by the Begotten they barely dare get out of their homes.
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* Echidna, one of the major antagonists of the game, is a Siren who has undergone an unknown transformation known as Descension, which [[ShapeshifterModeLock locked her in Diluvian form]] and granted her Mutagenic powers. She is now trying to use these abilities to [[EvilutionaryBiologist force evolution upon humanity]], hoping to [[WellIntentionedExtremist turn them into a race capable of surviving the Deluge]]. A pretty noble goal in itself... except she has no clear idea how to do that, and she isn't the sanest person around. The unfortunate humans she gets her hands on end up warped and mixed with fish DNA, turning them into monstrous, non-sapient FishMen. Worse, one of her main jobs for her Sirens are to ''kidnap'' new human subjects to test her insane experiments on.

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* Echidna, one of the major antagonists of the game, is a Siren who has undergone an unknown transformation known as Descension, which [[ShapeshifterModeLock locked her in Diluvian form]] and granted her Mutagenic powers. She is now trying to use these abilities to [[EvilutionaryBiologist force evolution upon humanity]], hoping to [[WellIntentionedExtremist turn them into a race capable of surviving the Deluge]]. A pretty noble goal in itself... except she has no clear idea how to do that, and she isn't the sanest person around. The unfortunate humans she gets her hands on end up warped and mixed with fish DNA, turning them into monstrous, non-sapient FishMen.FishMen known as Vodianoi. Worse, one of her main jobs for her Sirens are to ''kidnap'' new human subjects to test her insane experiments on.
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* The Celestial Ocean is an AlternateTimeline representing the world as it will be [[AfterTheEnd after the Deluge]]. To put it plainly, it's an aquatic, post-apocalyptic wasteland containing a representation of ''all'' the potential apocalyptic events that could lead to the Deluge at the same time. And it will continue to exist as long as there is even 1% of chance the Deluge might happen.
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** Styx - The Abyssal Current of Primordial Darkness (([[TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial Not that kind of primordial]])) are the opposite end of Lethe, in which they chose Nature over Civilization. They hear natures cries, how the impact of nature dying hurts the world and yet nobody cares, especially the humans who're behind it dying in the first place. Because of this, these are Sirens who believe, wholly and honestly, that Civilization and Humanity must die, and like Lethe above they're allied with the Flenser's natural opposite, the Furies and Quagmires. It doesn't help that they specialize in the conclusion made for [[GlassShatteringSound hurting ANYTHING at all.]]

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** Styx - The Abyssal Current of Primordial Darkness (([[TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial ([[TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial Not that kind of primordial]])) primordial]]) are the opposite end of Lethe, in which they chose Nature over Civilization. They hear natures cries, how the impact of nature dying hurts the world and yet nobody cares, especially the humans who're behind it dying in the first place. Because of this, these are Sirens who believe, wholly and honestly, that Civilization and Humanity must die, and like Lethe above they're allied with the Flenser's natural opposite, the Furies and Quagmires. It doesn't help that they specialize in the conclusion made for [[GlassShatteringSound hurting ANYTHING at all.]]
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** Cocytus - The Abyssal Current of Dark Secrets do not have any ethics when it comes to their search for knowledge. They are mostly liable to cause pain and suffering if it means they can gain anything from it, from blackmail to destroying lives. Even the opening story starts with a Cocytus Siren allowing a SerialKiller to do his work while distracting the police from finding his footsteps until [[YouveOutlivedYourUsefulness he's outlived his usefulness]], all just to gain a Treasure with a verse she wanted! Granted, not all Sirens of Cocytus are merely apathetic, some instead choose to deal with taboo subjects that other Sirens wouldn't care about....including DealWithTheDevil.

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** Cocytus - The Abyssal Current of Dark Secrets do not have any ethics when it comes to their search for knowledge. They are mostly liable to cause pain and suffering if it means they can gain anything from it, from blackmail to destroying lives. Even the opening story starts with a Cocytus Siren allowing a SerialKiller to do his work while distracting the police from finding his footsteps until [[YouveOutlivedYourUsefulness [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness he's outlived his usefulness]], all just to gain a Treasure with a verse she wanted! Granted, not all Sirens of Cocytus are merely apathetic, some instead choose to deal with taboo subjects that other Sirens wouldn't care about....including DealWithTheDevil.

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* On the other side of the Flensers are the Quagmires and Furies. Normally, when a human causes pollution or disrespects nature within an area nature still has a hold over, [[GaiasLament that causes nature itself to begin accumulating some spitefulness against that act]]. With enough time and pollution, that [[ThePowerOfHate spite and hatred can grow enough]] to the point where it becomes a Quagmire. A Quagmire is basically an area that [[MisanthropeSupreme hates all of humanity for the damages done to nature]] and it warps the nature and animals around to to be as [[EverythingTryingToKillYou murderous]] and [[HostileTerraforming hateful as it is towards humanity]]. And it may form a sapience known as a [[NatureSpirit Fury]], which can willingly guide the Quagmire's actions and form itself a body from any materials present. Including [[HumanResources human flesh]].



** Phlegethon - The Abyssal Current of Dark Passions focuses on

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** Phlegethon - The Abyssal Current of Dark Passions focuses onhave long since given up their humanity since they Surfaced, and now that they're supernatural, they simply desire to abuse not only their powers, but also the people around them so long as it satisfies them. Even worse though is that they willingly abuse their Relationships, which is pretty low on Siren standards, even until they've eaten their souls...to which they then just dump them and begin the cycle somewhere else.
** Styx - The Abyssal Current of Primordial Darkness (([[TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial Not that kind of primordial]])) are the opposite end of Lethe, in which they chose Nature over Civilization. They hear natures cries, how the impact of nature dying hurts the world and yet nobody cares, especially the humans who're behind it dying in the first place. Because of this, these are Sirens who believe, wholly and honestly, that Civilization and Humanity must die, and like Lethe above they're allied with the Flenser's natural opposite, the Furies and Quagmires. It doesn't help that they specialize in the conclusion made for [[GlassShatteringSound hurting ANYTHING at all.]]

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* The Flensers are people who [[ImmortalitySeeker keep themselves immortal]] by cannibalizing Siren flesh, and are ready to anything to ensure they will always have fresh supplies of this. They [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul build several cybernetics and genetic enhancements to improve themselves]], which they typically get their resources for by polluting the hell out of every place they go, completely uncaring of the Sirens' plight or the fact they might be contributing to the Deluge ([[{{Hypocrite}} Even though they claim to have created these to help humanity in the first place]]). But the worst part in all of this is that, unlike many other antagonists in TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness, they aren't some unholy supernatural creature with a natural inclination to be malevolent. They are ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans]]''.

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* The Flensers are people who [[ImmortalitySeeker keep themselves immortal]] by cannibalizing Siren flesh, and are ready to anything to ensure they will always have fresh supplies of this. They [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul build several cybernetics and genetic enhancements to improve themselves]], which they typically get their resources for by [[AmbitionIsEvil polluting the hell out of every place they go, completely uncaring of the Sirens' plight or the fact they might be contributing to the Deluge Deluge]] ([[{{Hypocrite}} Even though they claim to have created these to help humanity in the first place]]). But the worst part in all of this is that, unlike many other antagonists in TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness, they aren't some unholy supernatural creature with a natural inclination to be malevolent. They are ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans]]''.humans]]''.
* The Abyssal Currents are just as horrible, being created as the main antagonists for Siren.
** Acheron - The Abyssal Current of the Void no longer cares about Humanity, Nature, Civilization, nothing. They view the world as [[CrapsackWorld hopeless and worthless]], and [[SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum seek to cause the Deluge to end existence]]. There's a tiny glimmer of sympathy that some within the Current desire to simply use the Deluge like a [[NewEden restart button]], but it's noted that the Current is divided on this.
** Cocytus - The Abyssal Current of Dark Secrets do not have any ethics when it comes to their search for knowledge. They are mostly liable to cause pain and suffering if it means they can gain anything from it, from blackmail to destroying lives. Even the opening story starts with a Cocytus Siren allowing a SerialKiller to do his work while distracting the police from finding his footsteps until [[YouveOutlivedYourUsefulness he's outlived his usefulness]], all just to gain a Treasure with a verse she wanted! Granted, not all Sirens of Cocytus are merely apathetic, some instead choose to deal with taboo subjects that other Sirens wouldn't care about....including DealWithTheDevil.
** Lethe - The Abyssal Current of Mankind's Victory are made up of Sirens who, tired of balancing between Nature and Civilization have chosen to embrace the extreme of Civilization, which means they'll at best be apathetic to nature and at worst actively trying to destroy it. Doesn't that sound familiar at all....oh right, that's pretty much what the Flensers do...what's that? They're ALLIED with the Flensers!? At least they don't eat Siren Flesh as well....oh wait...they do THAT too!
** Oceanus - The Abyssal Current of the Monster Queen. Remember Echidna above? This is the Current of Sirens who willingly follow her, help her in her experiments and guard over the remains of the human, or as Echidna knows them as, [[TermsOfEndangerment her beloved children]]. They believe that the Deluge is immanent so it's only natural to protect those that they love....except that they're turning them into non-sapient fish monsters robbed of all humanity.
** Phlegethon - The Abyssal Current of Dark Passions focuses on
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* Echidna, one of the major antagonists of the game, is a Siren who has undergone an unknown transformation known as Descension, which [[ShapeshifterModeLock locked her in Diluvian form]] and granted her Mutagenic powers. She is now trying to use these abilities to [[EvilutionaryBiologist force evolution upon humanity]], hoping to [[WellIntentionedExtremist turn them into a race capable of surviving the Deluge]]. A pretty noble goal in itself... except she has no clear idea how to do that, and she isn't the sanest person around. The unfortunate humans she gets her hands on end up warped and mixed with fish DNA, turning them into monstrous, non-sapient FishMen. Worse, there are Sirens at her service who make a ''job'' of kidnapping new human subject to test her insane experiments on.
* The Flensers are people who [[ImmortalitySeeker keep themselves immortals]] by cannibalizing Siren flesh, and are ready to anything to ensure they will always have fresh supplies of these. They [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul build several cybernetics and genetic enhancements to improve themselves]], which they typically get their resources for by polluting the hell out of every place they go, completely uncaring of the Sirens' plight or the fact they might be contributing to the Deluge ([[{{Hypocrite}} Even though they claim to have created these to help humanity in the first place]]). But the worst part in all of this is that, unlike many other antagonists in TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness, they aren't some unholy supernatural creature with a natural inclination to be malevolent. They are ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans]]''.

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* Echidna, one of the major antagonists of the game, is a Siren who has undergone an unknown transformation known as Descension, which [[ShapeshifterModeLock locked her in Diluvian form]] and granted her Mutagenic powers. She is now trying to use these abilities to [[EvilutionaryBiologist force evolution upon humanity]], hoping to [[WellIntentionedExtremist turn them into a race capable of surviving the Deluge]]. A pretty noble goal in itself... except she has no clear idea how to do that, and she isn't the sanest person around. The unfortunate humans she gets her hands on end up warped and mixed with fish DNA, turning them into monstrous, non-sapient FishMen. Worse, there are one of her main jobs for her Sirens at her service who make a ''job'' of kidnapping are to ''kidnap'' new human subject subjects to test her insane experiments on.
* The Flensers are people who [[ImmortalitySeeker keep themselves immortals]] immortal]] by cannibalizing Siren flesh, and are ready to anything to ensure they will always have fresh supplies of these.this. They [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul build several cybernetics and genetic enhancements to improve themselves]], which they typically get their resources for by polluting the hell out of every place they go, completely uncaring of the Sirens' plight or the fact they might be contributing to the Deluge ([[{{Hypocrite}} Even though they claim to have created these to help humanity in the first place]]). But the worst part in all of this is that, unlike many other antagonists in TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness, they aren't some unholy supernatural creature with a natural inclination to be malevolent. They are ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans]]''.
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* Let's start with the Deluge, which is the focus of the game. The EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt is coming, and will cause all of humanity to die, unless Sirens are somehow able to prevent it. The problem is, they don't know exactly how to do that, because they have ''[[NothingIsScarier no idea]]'' [[ApocalypseHow what form it will have]]; it could be anything, from natural disasters to more supernatural causes. And considering we are talking about the [[CrapsackWorld New World of Darkness]], the number of horrible things that could potentially cause is is absolutely ''spectacular'', making it even harder to figure out what it will be and how to stop it. Especially since, even if they manage to remove the original cause, a new one might still eventually cause it in a different form.

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* Let's start with the Deluge, which is the focus of the game. The EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt is coming, and will cause all of humanity to die, unless Sirens are somehow able to prevent it. The problem is, they don't know exactly how to do that, because they have ''[[NothingIsScarier no idea]]'' [[ApocalypseHow what form it will have]]; it could be anything, from natural disasters to more supernatural causes. And considering we are talking about the [[CrapsackWorld New World of Darkness]], the number of horrible things that could potentially cause is it is absolutely ''spectacular'', making it even harder to figure out what it will be and how to stop it. Especially since, even if they manage to remove the original cause, a new one might still eventually cause it in a different form.
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* The Flensers are people who [[ImmortalitySeeker keep themselves immortals]] by cannibalizing Siren flesh, and are ready to anything to ensure they will always have fresh supplies of these. They [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul build several cybernetics and genetic enhancements to improve themselves]], which they typically get their resources for by polluting the hell out of every place they go, completely uncaring of the Sirens' plight or the fact they might be contributing to the Deluge ([[{{Hypocrite}} Even though they claim to have created these to help humanity in the first place]]). But the worst part in all of this is that, unlike many other antagonists in TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness, they aren't some unholy supernatural creature with a natural inclination to be malevolent. They are ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonster humans]]''.

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* The Flensers are people who [[ImmortalitySeeker keep themselves immortals]] by cannibalizing Siren flesh, and are ready to anything to ensure they will always have fresh supplies of these. They [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul build several cybernetics and genetic enhancements to improve themselves]], which they typically get their resources for by polluting the hell out of every place they go, completely uncaring of the Sirens' plight or the fact they might be contributing to the Deluge ([[{{Hypocrite}} Even though they claim to have created these to help humanity in the first place]]). But the worst part in all of this is that, unlike many other antagonists in TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness, they aren't some unholy supernatural creature with a natural inclination to be malevolent. They are ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonster ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans]]''.

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* Let's start with the Deluge, which is the focus of the game. The EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt is coming, and will cause all of humanity to die, unless Sirens are somehow able to prevent it. The problem is, they don't know exactly how to do that, because they have ''[[NothingIsScarier no idea]]'' [[ApocalypseHow what form it will have]]; it could be anything, from natural disasters to more supernatural causes. And considering we are talking about the [[CrapsackWorld New World of Darkness]], the number of horrible things that could potentially cause is is absolutely ''spectacular'', making it even harder to figure out what it will be and how to stop it. Especially since, even if they manage to remove the original cause, a new one might still eventually cause it in a different form.



* The Flensers are people who [[ImmortalitySeeker keep themselves immortals]] by cannibalizing Siren flesh, and are ready to anything to ensure they will always have fresh supplies of these. They [[CyberneticWillEatYourSoul build several cybernetics and genetic enhancements to improve themselves]], which they typically get their resources for by polluting the hell out of every place they go, completely uncaring of the Sirens' plight or the fact they might be contributing to the Deluge ([[{{Hypocrite}} Even though they claim to have created these to help humanity in the first place]]). But the worst part in all of this is that, unlike many other antagonists in TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness, they aren't some unholy supernatural creature with a natural inclination to be malevolent. They are ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonster humans]]''.

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* The Flensers are people who [[ImmortalitySeeker keep themselves immortals]] by cannibalizing Siren flesh, and are ready to anything to ensure they will always have fresh supplies of these. They [[CyberneticWillEatYourSoul [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul build several cybernetics and genetic enhancements to improve themselves]], which they typically get their resources for by polluting the hell out of every place they go, completely uncaring of the Sirens' plight or the fact they might be contributing to the Deluge ([[{{Hypocrite}} Even though they claim to have created these to help humanity in the first place]]). But the worst part in all of this is that, unlike many other antagonists in TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness, they aren't some unholy supernatural creature with a natural inclination to be malevolent. They are ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonster humans]]''.
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* Echidna, one of the major antagonists of the game, is a Siren who has undergone an unknown transformation known as Descension, which [[ShapeshifterModeLock locked her in Diluvian form]] and granted her Mutagenic powers. She is now trying to use these abilities to [[EvilutionaryBiologist force evolution upon humanity]], hoping to [[WellIntentionedExtremist turn them into a race capable of surviving the Deluge]]. A pretty noble goal in itself... except she has no clear idea how to do that, and she isn't the sanest person around. The unfortunate humans she gets her hands on end up warped and mixed with fish DNA, turning them into monstrous, non-sapient FishMen. Worse, there are Sirens at her service who make a ''job'' of kidnapping new human subject to test her insane experiments on.

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* Echidna, one of the major antagonists of the game, is a Siren who has undergone an unknown transformation known as Descension, which [[ShapeshifterModeLock locked her in Diluvian form]] and granted her Mutagenic powers. She is now trying to use these abilities to [[EvilutionaryBiologist force evolution upon humanity]], hoping to [[WellIntentionedExtremist turn them into a race capable of surviving the Deluge]]. A pretty noble goal in itself... except she has no clear idea how to do that, and she isn't the sanest person around. The unfortunate humans she gets her hands on end up warped and mixed with fish DNA, turning them into monstrous, non-sapient FishMen. Worse, there are Sirens at her service who make a ''job'' of kidnapping new human subject to test her insane experiments on.on.
* The Flensers are people who [[ImmortalitySeeker keep themselves immortals]] by cannibalizing Siren flesh, and are ready to anything to ensure they will always have fresh supplies of these. They [[CyberneticWillEatYourSoul build several cybernetics and genetic enhancements to improve themselves]], which they typically get their resources for by polluting the hell out of every place they go, completely uncaring of the Sirens' plight or the fact they might be contributing to the Deluge ([[{{Hypocrite}} Even though they claim to have created these to help humanity in the first place]]). But the worst part in all of this is that, unlike many other antagonists in TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness, they aren't some unholy supernatural creature with a natural inclination to be malevolent. They are ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonster humans]]''.
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* Echidna, one of the major antagonists of the game, is a Siren who has undergone an unknown transformation known as Descension, which [[ShapeshiftingModeLock locked her in Diluvian form]] and granted her Mutagenic powers. She is now trying to use these abilities to [[EvilutionaryBiologist force evolution upon humanity]], hoping to [[WellIntentionedExtremist turn them into a race capable of surviving the Deluge]]. A pretty noble goal in itself... except she has no clear idea how to do that, and she isn't the sanest person around. The unfortunate humans she gets her hands on end up warped and mixed with fish DNA, turning them into monstrous, non-sapient FishMen. Worse, there are Sirens at her service who make a ''job'' of kidnapping new human subject to test her insane experiments on.

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* Echidna, one of the major antagonists of the game, is a Siren who has undergone an unknown transformation known as Descension, which [[ShapeshiftingModeLock [[ShapeshifterModeLock locked her in Diluvian form]] and granted her Mutagenic powers. She is now trying to use these abilities to [[EvilutionaryBiologist force evolution upon humanity]], hoping to [[WellIntentionedExtremist turn them into a race capable of surviving the Deluge]]. A pretty noble goal in itself... except she has no clear idea how to do that, and she isn't the sanest person around. The unfortunate humans she gets her hands on end up warped and mixed with fish DNA, turning them into monstrous, non-sapient FishMen. Worse, there are Sirens at her service who make a ''job'' of kidnapping new human subject to test her insane experiments on.
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* Echidna, one of the major antagonists of the game, is a Siren who has undergone an unknown transformation known as Descension, which [[ShapeshiftingLockMode locked her in Diluvian form]] and granted her Mutagenic powers. She is now trying to use these abilities to [[EvilutionaryBiologist force evolution upon humanity]], hoping to [[WellIntentionedExtremist turn them into a race capable of surviving the Deluge]]. A pretty noble goal in itself... except she has no clear idea how to do that, and she isn't the sanest person around. The unfortunate humans she gets her hands on end up warped and mixed with fish DNA, turning them into monstrous, non-sapient FishMen. Worse, there are Sirens at her service who make a ''job'' of kidnapping new human subject to test her insane experiments on.

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* Echidna, one of the major antagonists of the game, is a Siren who has undergone an unknown transformation known as Descension, which [[ShapeshiftingLockMode [[ShapeshiftingModeLock locked her in Diluvian form]] and granted her Mutagenic powers. She is now trying to use these abilities to [[EvilutionaryBiologist force evolution upon humanity]], hoping to [[WellIntentionedExtremist turn them into a race capable of surviving the Deluge]]. A pretty noble goal in itself... except she has no clear idea how to do that, and she isn't the sanest person around. The unfortunate humans she gets her hands on end up warped and mixed with fish DNA, turning them into monstrous, non-sapient FishMen. Worse, there are Sirens at her service who make a ''job'' of kidnapping new human subject to test her insane experiments on.
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* Echidna, one of the major antagonists of the game, is a Siren who has undergone an unknown transformation known as Descension, which [[ShapeshiftingLockMode locked her in Diluvian form]] and granted her Mutagenic powers. She is now trying to use these abilities to [[EvilutionaryBiologist force evolution upon humanity]], hoping to [[WellIntentionedExtremist turn them into a race capable of surviving the Deluge]]. A pretty noble goal in itself... except she has no clear idea how to do that, and she isn't the sanest person around. The unfortunate humans she gets her hands on end up warped and mixed with fish DNA, turning them into monstrous, non-sapient FishMen. Worse, there are Sirens at her service who make a ''job'' of kidnapping new human subject to test her insane experiments on.

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