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* Even worse is when Jessica [[JustForPun reunites]] [[HopeSpot Hope with her parents who happily take her down an elevator]]. Just as the door closes Jessica sees Hope pull a gun from her purse. She races downstairs just as Hope shoots her parents, then delivers a message from Kilgrave to Jessica: "Smile." And then, having completed her orders, she realizes what's just happened.

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* Even worse is when Jessica [[JustForPun reunites]] reunites [[HopeSpot Hope with her parents who happily take her down an elevator]]. Just as the door closes Jessica sees Hope pull a gun from her purse. She races downstairs just as Hope shoots her parents, then delivers a message from Kilgrave to Jessica: "Smile." And then, having completed her orders, she realizes what's just happened.

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* Trish tries to use her talk show to raise some sympathy for Hope, but when Jeri is doubtful, Trish, who knows ''very well Kilgrave is real'' as well as what he did to Hope and Jessica, starts a tirade which devolves into bashing Kilgrave. [[SpeakOfTheDevil Kilgrave immediately calls the show]] [[ShameIfSomethingHappened to threaten her]], [[TraumaButton and hearing his voice is enough to reduce Hope to a screaming fit]]:
-->'''Kilgrave:''' First time caller, long time listener. Trish, I want to applaud your courage. You've always been a hero to the downtrodden. Self-preservation be damned. It's admirable. But my question is, if there really is a man with the abilities you've described, someone who could make anyone, anywhere, do whatever he wanted them to do, seems to me that insulting him would be wildly dangerous. Or, let's just say it, stupid in the extreme. Everyone has feelings, even, um, how did you put it? Sadistic, corrosive men? Are you worried he might, I don't know, make you kill yourself? Or worse? I'll take my answer off the air.
* We see Reva's death in detail: Kilgrave tells Jessica to "take care of her". Jessica promptly swings at Reva's chest, throwing her backwards through the air about twenty feet, caving in her chest. Her non-reaction to being hit also suggests that Reva was killed instantly.

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* Trish tries to use her talk show to raise some sympathy for Hope, but when Jeri is doubtful, Trish, who knows ''very well Kilgrave is real'' as well as what he did to Hope and Jessica, starts a tirade which devolves into bashing Kilgrave. [[SpeakOfTheDevil Kilgrave immediately calls the show]] [[ShameIfSomethingHappened to threaten her]], show]], [[TraumaButton and hearing his voice is enough to reduce Hope to a screaming fit]]:
-->'''Kilgrave:''' First time caller, long time listener. Trish, I want to applaud your courage. You've always been a hero to the downtrodden. Self-preservation be damned. It's admirable. [[ShameIfSomethingHappened But my question is, if there really is a man with the abilities you've described, someone who could make anyone, anywhere, do whatever he wanted them to do, seems to me that insulting him would be wildly dangerous. Or, let's just say it, stupid in the extreme. Everyone has feelings, even, um, how did you put it? Sadistic, corrosive men? men?]] [[ImpliedDeathThreat Are you worried he might, I don't know, make you kill yourself? Or worse? worse?]] I'll take my answer off the air.
* We see Reva's death in detail: Kilgrave tells Jessica to "take "[[DeadlyEuphemism take care of her".her]]". Jessica promptly swings at Reva's chest, throwing her backwards through the air about twenty feet, caving in her chest. Her non-reaction to being hit also suggests that Reva was killed instantly.



** On Simpson's end, it's a reminder that Kilgrave's victims ''are'' 100% aware of the stuff they did while under his control. He's left thinking he killed Trish in the last episode, so he comes back and begins vigorously trying to break down the door with a battering ram, desperately hoping to prove himself wrong. While he is relieved to see that Trish is alive and well, the fact that he tried to strangle her gets confirmed when Trish takes off her scarf to show him the ugly red marks on her neck from where he had his thumbs wrapped around her vocal cords, causing him to mutter, "[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone I'm... I'm a goddamn monster!]]" Jessica has to go off to talk to Simpson in private to get him to calm down.
* Kilgrave sends a message to Jessica by means of a little girl that Trish is safe for now. Jessica completely gets the [[MindRape implications]] of Kilgrave using ''children'' to do his dirty work, and tells her how sorry she is. The timing with which the girl's mom comes when Jessica grabs her and she screams, gives the implication that Kilgrave may have also commandeered the mom as well.

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** On Simpson's end, it's a reminder that Kilgrave's victims ''are'' 100% aware of the stuff they did while under his control. He's left thinking he killed Trish in the last episode, so he comes back and begins vigorously trying to break down the door with a battering ram, desperately hoping to prove himself wrong. While he is relieved to see that He thinks he's been proven wrong when Jessica and Trish is alive and well, answer the fact that he tried to strangle her gets confirmed when door...only for Trish takes off her scarf to show him the ugly red marks on bruises he left when he strangled her neck from where he had with his thumbs wrapped around her vocal cords, causing him to mutter, "[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone I'm... I'm a goddamn monster!]]" bare hands. Jessica has to go off to take Simpson aside and talk to Simpson him in private to get him to calm down.
--->'''Will Simpson:''' I mean, how can you be standing here? How can you be alright?\\
''[Trish unravels her scarf to reveal the bruises on her neck]''\\
'''Trish Walker:''' ''[in a harsh whisper]'' I am ''not'' alright!\\
'''Jessica Jones:''' Trish, come on.\\
'''Will Simpson:''' ''[horrified]'' [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone I'm... I'm a goddamn monster!]]
* Kilgrave sends a message to Jessica by means of has a little girl deliver to Jessica a message that Trish is safe for now.now in light of her apology on the radio. Jessica completely gets the [[MindRape implications]] of Kilgrave using ''children'' to do his dirty work, and tells her how sorry she is. The timing with which the girl's mom comes when Jessica grabs her and she screams, gives the implication that Kilgrave may have also commandeered the mom as well.



* Jessica's panic when her 10:00 alarm doesn't go off is nerve-wracking. She's lucky Kilgrave lets her off with just a warning to not be late the next time around.
* Kilgrave uses his poker winnings to purchase a house. At first, it seems fairly innocuous, even bit out-of-character, that he's buying somewhere to hole up instead of just making them give him their house. Then, whilst he's walking about the house he finds a door frame with notches in it, and peels back the wallpaper, in a very "Blink"-esque way, next to it to reveal that it's a height chart for one Jessica Jones. Then the camera cuts to the exterior of the house, and pulls back to reveal a street sign for Higgins Drive and Birch Street. [[StalkerWithACrush He found the house she grew up in.]]

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* Jessica's panic when her 10:00 alarm doesn't go off is nerve-wracking. She's lucky Kilgrave lets her off with just a warning to not be late the next time around.
warning.
-->You're late. Don't let it happen again.
* Kilgrave uses his poker winnings to purchase a house. At first, it seems fairly innocuous, even bit out-of-character, that he's buying somewhere to hole up instead of just making them give him their house. Then, whilst he's walking about the house he finds a door frame with notches in it, and peels back the wallpaper, in a very "Blink"-esque way, next to it to reveal that it's a height chart for one Jessica Jones. Then the camera cuts to the exterior of the house, [[WhamShot and pulls back to reveal a street sign for Higgins Drive and Birch Street.Street]]. [[StalkerWithACrush He found the house she grew up in.]]



'''Kilgrave:''' ''[emerges from underneath a desk]'' Oh, everyone, calm down, you're killing the mood!

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'''Kilgrave:''' ''[emerges from underneath a desk]'' Oh, everyone, calm down, you're down! You're killing the mood!



-->'''Kilgrave:''' Jessica. You're not surprised to see me. You had to know I'd come for you. Not this fast? I... I will admit to keeping eyes on you. Spies are easy to come by, for me.\\

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-->'''Kilgrave:''' --->'''Kilgrave:''' Jessica. You're not surprised to see me. You had to know I'd come for you. Not this fast? I... I will admit to keeping eyes on you. Spies are easy to come by, for me.\\



'''Kilgrave:''' Oh, well, that... that milquetoast little man-boy? He interrupted me while I was leaving you a present, which, apparently, you didn't even find. Come on! You cannot pretend he didn't irritate you, too. I wanted to slap him after 30 seconds. I know. I realize this will take time. But I'm gonna prove it to you.
** For once, we see Kilgrave lose his superficial charm [[RingRingCrunch when a phone rings]].
--->'''Kilgrave:''' Whose is that? ''[cell phone continues to ring as Kilgrave stalks around the room, looking for the phone]'' Whose phone is that?!\\

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'''Kilgrave:''' Oh, well, that... that milquetoast little man-boy? He interrupted me while I was leaving you a present, which, apparently, you didn't even find. find! Come on! You cannot pretend he didn't irritate you, too. I wanted to slap him after 30 seconds. seconds! I know. I realize this will take time. But I'm gonna prove it to you.
** For once, we see Kilgrave lose his superficial charm [[RingRingCrunch when a someone's phone rings]].
--->'''Kilgrave:''' Whose is that? ''[cell ''[The phone continues to ring as Kilgrave stalks around the room, looking for the phone]'' it]'' Whose phone is that?!\\



* Let's remember that the point of this episode is that Kilgrave has blackmailed Jessica into living with him. While she's immune to his powers, Kilgrave can still exert an awful lot of control of her just through pure manipulation. Jessica has to live in the same house, eat with, and spend time with a man who'd previously and repeatedly raped her, and kept her as a slave for quite some time. Like the photograph blackmail thing above, this is right out of the worst fears of someone with Jessica's experiences.

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* Let's remember that the point of this episode is that Kilgrave has blackmailed Jessica into living with him. While she's immune to his powers, Kilgrave can still exert an awful lot of control of her just through pure manipulation. Jessica has to live in the same house, eat with, and spend time with a man who'd previously and repeatedly raped her, and kept her as a slave for quite some time. Like the photograph blackmail thing above, from a few episodes ago, this is right out of the worst fears of someone with Jessica's experiences.



** Jessica is forced to watch as Kilgrave makes his mom stab herself to death with a pair of scissors, all because her method of preventing it was tampered by Jeri Hogarth, as part of her DealWithTheDevil. It's made particularly bad because Jessica specifically promised no harm would come to her, but due to Hogarth's betrayal she is unable to intervene until it was too late.

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** Jessica is forced to watch as Kilgrave makes his mom stab herself to death with a pair of scissors, all because her method of preventing it was tampered by Jeri Hogarth, as part of her DealWithTheDevil. It's made particularly bad because Jessica specifically promised no harm would come to her, but due to Hogarth's betrayal she is unable to intervene until it was is too late.



** Kilgrave tells Trish to put a bullet in her head. The way she just ''immediately'' pulls the trigger upon hearing that was chilling enough on its own. Good thing she just spent all of her bullets on the glass.
** Kilgrave orders Clemmons, who is handcuffed to a pole, to follow him. He immediately breaks his thumb and skins his hand to allow it to slide out of the handcuffs.

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** Kilgrave tells Trish to put a bullet in her head. The way she just ''immediately'' pulls the trigger upon hearing that was is chilling enough on its own. Good thing she just spent all of her bullets on the glass.
** Kilgrave orders Clemmons, Clemons, who is handcuffed to a pole, to follow him. He immediately breaks his thumb and skins his hand to allow it to slide out of the handcuffs.



* Will Simpson, after having taken his combat enhancers. He was already out for blood beforehand, but now that his team is dead, he is at his [[RageBreakingPoint limit]]. For a start, he murders Oscar Clemmons when he refuses to let him go through with killing Kilgrave. Then when he is approached by Kozlov's men, he shoots them both dead as well. Then, he tries to murder Jessica in her apartment, blaming her for all the people that have died. With the red pills in his system he is able to physically match her and even overpower her in combat.

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* Will Simpson, after having taken his combat enhancers. He was already out for blood beforehand, but now that his team is dead, he is at his [[RageBreakingPoint limit]]. For a start, he murders Oscar Clemmons Clemons when he refuses to let him go through with killing Kilgrave. Then when he is approached by Kozlov's men, he shoots them both dead as well. Then, he tries to murder Jessica in her apartment, blaming her for all the people that have died. With the red pills in his system he is able to physically match her and even overpower her in combat.



'''Kilgrave:''' ''[smirks]'' '''I ''WROTE'' IT!''' ''[singsong voice]'' Surprise!\\

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'''Kilgrave:''' ''[smirks]'' '''I ''WROTE'' IT!''' ''[singsong voice]'' Surprise!\\SURPRISE!\\



** "From your perspective, I'd be raping her every day. My skin will be touching hers. She'll be my plaything. She'll be my slave. And in her mind she'll be dying, isn't that right?"
*** It's also profoundly disturbing to see Kilgrave's glee when he's finally convinced that Jessica is under his control again, frantically assuring her that he ''knows'' that she'll grow to love him. He genuinely believes that he's not doing anything wrong.

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** "From -->'''Kilgrave:''' You'd do anything to protect her, wouldn't you?\\
'''Jessica Jones:''' Yes.\\
'''Kilgrave:''' Yeah, perhaps I chose the wrong sister. Hmm? From
your perspective, I'd I'll be raping her every day. My skin will be touching hers. She'll be my plaything. She'll be my slave. ''[sighs]'' And in her mind mind, she'll be dying, isn't ain't that right?"
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right?\\
'''Jessica Jones:''' Yes.\\
'''Kilgrave:''' We're leaving. If Patsy or I ever hear from you, or see you, see anyone who looks like you, she will slit her own throat. It's the ultimate contingency.
**
It's also profoundly disturbing to see Kilgrave's glee when he's finally convinced that Jessica is under his control again, frantically assuring her that he ''knows'' that she'll grow to love him. He genuinely believes that he's not doing anything wrong.



* We see the event that gave Inez her lacerations: Alisa gets loose and attempts to escape to go seek out Jessica. First, she pushes Inez into a glass container hard enough to embed shards of glass into her back, then, as Luanne tries to push the emergency button to call for help, Alisa grabs her and snaps her neck like nothing. We are given a focus shot of these two, Inez lying maimed on the ground with huge glass shards sticking out of her back, unable to move or turn away from her dead coworker.

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* We see the event that gave Inez her lacerations: Alisa gets loose and attempts to escape to go seek out Jessica. First, she pushes Inez into a glass container hard enough to embed shards of glass into her back, then, as Luanne tries to push the emergency button to call for help, Alisa grabs her and snaps her neck like nothing.in similar fashion to how she killed Simpson in the second episode. We are given a focus shot of these two, Inez lying maimed on the ground with huge glass shards sticking out of her back, unable to move or turn away from her dead coworker.

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-->'''Kilgrave:''' Whose is that? ''[cell phone continues to ring as Kilgrave stalks around the room, looking for the phone]'' Whose phone is that?! ''[Kilgrave approaches Clemons, the source of the ringing. Upon getting a silent confirmation that yes, this is his phone, Kilgrave takes Clemons' phone and throws it at a wall, shattering it into pieces]'' THE NEXT PERSON WHOSE PHONE RINGS '''''HAS TO EAT IT!!!''''' ''[Kilgrave rubs his hands over his face and paces around the room, trying to compose himself]'' Crappy fluorescent lights and cockroaches and loud cell phones and the smell of piss! I am trying to profess eternal ''love'' here, people!

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-->'''Kilgrave:''' --->'''Kilgrave:''' Whose is that? ''[cell phone continues to ring as Kilgrave stalks around the room, looking for the phone]'' Whose phone is that?! that?!\\
''[Kilgrave approaches Clemons, the source of the ringing. Upon getting a silent confirmation that yes, this is his phone, Kilgrave takes Clemons' phone and throws it at a wall, shattering it into pieces]'' pieces]''\\
'''Kilgrave:'''
THE NEXT PERSON WHOSE PHONE RINGS '''''HAS TO EAT IT!!!''''' ''[Kilgrave rubs his hands over his face and paces around the room, trying to compose himself]'' Crappy fluorescent lights and cockroaches and loud cell phones and the smell of piss! I am trying to profess eternal ''love'' here, people!AM TRYING TO PROFESS ETERNAL ''LOVE'' HERE, PEOPLE!
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* Kilgrave's first appearance on screen, where we see his powers firsthand as he uses his powers to take over a family's apartment, sends the kids to the closet and tells one to soil herself there, similar to the girl above.

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* Kilgrave's first appearance on screen, where we see his powers firsthand as he uses his powers them to take over a family's apartment, sends the kids to the closet and tells one to soil herself there, similar to the girl above.
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-->'''Little Girl:''' I have to go to the bathroom.\\
'''Kilgrave:''' You can go in the closet. Get in there.
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* Luke Cage intends to violently beat to death Charles Wallace, the driver of the crashed bus the night Reva died and convinced he was the one who killed her as he was found drunk while on the job. Jessica under the control of Kilgrave was the one to do it. Luckily Jessica intervenes but Luke was serious about killing a man who was apologetic and repentant instead of denying his presumed guilt.

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* Luke Cage intends to violently beat to death Charles Wallace, the driver of the crashed bus the night Reva died and convinced he was the one who killed her as he was found drunk while on the job. Jessica Jessica, under the control of Kilgrave Kilgrave, was the one to do it. Luckily Jessica intervenes intervenes, but Luke was serious about killing a man who was apologetic and repentant instead of denying his presumed guilt.



* Kilgrave claims he can't turn his power off, so he ''always'' has to be careful about what he says ("I once told a man to go screw himself. Can you imagine?[[note]]If you want an idea of what likely happened, read ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'', where the protagonist has a power that's like Kilgrave's. At one point he tells a nasty redneck sheriff to "go fuck yourself", without thinking of the implications. Later on he finds out that the sheriff tore off his penis with his bare hands and put it in his anus. Paramedics were able to keep him from bleeding to death, but the man then had his son bring him his service revolver and shot himself in the head with it.[[/note]]") It's chilling to imagine such a life and becoming accustomed to, and then expectant of, having your absolute ''every'' whim obeyed. Put in his shoes, many people would end up acting as Kilgrave does, especially if they've possessed that power since childhood.

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* Kilgrave claims he can't turn his power off, so he ''always'' has to be careful about what he says ("I once told a man to go screw himself. Can you imagine?[[note]]If you want an idea of what likely happened, read ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'', where the protagonist has a power that's like Kilgrave's. At one point he tells a nasty redneck sheriff to "go fuck yourself", without thinking of the implications. Later on he finds out that the sheriff tore off his penis with his bare hands and put it in his anus. Paramedics were able to keep him from bleeding to death, but the man then had his son bring him his service revolver and shot himself in the head with it.[[/note]]") [[/note]]) It's chilling to imagine such a life and becoming accustomed to, and then expectant of, having your absolute ''every'' whim obeyed. Put in his shoes, many people would end up acting as Kilgrave does, especially if they've possessed that power since childhood.



* Let's remember that the point of this episode is that Kilgrave has blackmailed Jessica into living with him. While she's immune to his powers, it's clear Kilgrave can exert an awful lot of control of her just through pure manipulation. Jessica has to live in the same house, eat with, and spend time with a man who'd previously and repeatedly raped her, and kept her as a slave for quite some time. Like the photograph blackmail thing above, this is right out of the worst fears of someone with Jessica's experiences.

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* Let's remember that the point of this episode is that Kilgrave has blackmailed Jessica into living with him. While she's immune to his powers, it's clear Kilgrave can still exert an awful lot of control of her just through pure manipulation. Jessica has to live in the same house, eat with, and spend time with a man who'd previously and repeatedly raped her, and kept her as a slave for quite some time. Like the photograph blackmail thing above, this is right out of the worst fears of someone with Jessica's experiences.



'''Kilgrave:''' ''[smirks]'' I '''WROTE''' IT!! ''[singsong voice]'' Surprise!\\

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'''Kilgrave:''' ''[smirks]'' I '''WROTE''' IT!! '''I ''WROTE'' IT!''' ''[singsong voice]'' Surprise!\\
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* Jack Denton, the ambulance driver who was forced to donate both his kidneys to Kilgrave and is left a helpless wreck who begs Jessica to kill him.

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* Jack Denton, the ambulance driver who was forced to donate both his kidneys to Kilgrave and is left a helpless wreck [[AndIMustScream who begs Jessica to kill him.him]].



* Jessica comes home from working the case to find a strange man in her apartment doing who knows what. It turns out to just be the repairman that Trish hired to replace her door, but still, imagine the terrifying scenarios that must have been going through her head, especially given that for all she knows, he was sent by Kilgrave.

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* Jessica comes home from working the case case, to find a strange man in her apartment doing who knows what. It turns out to just be the repairman that Trish hired to replace her door, but still, imagine the terrifying scenarios that must have been going through her head, especially given that for all she knows, he was sent by Kilgrave.



* Trish tries to use her talk show to raise some sympathy for Hope, but when Jeri is doubtful, Trish, who knows ''very well Kilgrave is real'' as well as what he did to Hope and Jessica, starts a tirade which devolves into bashing Kilgrave. [[SpeakOfTheDevil Kilgrave immediately calls in]], [[TraumaButton causing Hope to go into a screaming fit]]:

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* Trish tries to use her talk show to raise some sympathy for Hope, but when Jeri is doubtful, Trish, who knows ''very well Kilgrave is real'' as well as what he did to Hope and Jessica, starts a tirade which devolves into bashing Kilgrave. [[SpeakOfTheDevil Kilgrave immediately calls in]], the show]] [[ShameIfSomethingHappened to threaten her]], [[TraumaButton causing and hearing his voice is enough to reduce Hope to go into a screaming fit]]:



* Trish is thrown into a panic when Simpson comes back to her apartment with another officer, and begins furiously trying to break down her door (getting a battering ram when he finds it's reinforced), thinking that Kilgrave has sent him back to finish her off. It's only when Jessica hears Simpson's partner asking him why he's so sure there's a dead body in the apartment that they realize he's back because he remembers what he did.
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' Kilgrave didn't send him back.
-->'''Trish Walker:''' Then why is he trying to break down my door?!
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' He thinks he killed you. I recognize that look.
** On Simpson's end, it's a reminder that Kilgrave's victims ''are'' 100% aware of the stuff they did while under his control. He's left thinking he killed Trish in the last episode, so he comes back and begins vigorously trying to break down the door with a battering ram, desperately hoping to prove himself wrong. While he is relieved to see that Trish is alive and well, the fact that he tried to strangle her gets confirmed when Trish shows him the ugly red marks on her neck from where he had his thumbs wrapped around her vocal cords, causing him to mutter, "[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone I'm... I'm a goddamn monster!]]" Jessica has to go off to talk to Simpson in private to get him to calm down.

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* Trish is thrown into a panic when Simpson comes back to her apartment with another officer, and begins furiously trying to break down her door (getting a battering ram when he finds it's reinforced), thinking convinced that Kilgrave has sent him back to finish her off. It's only when Jessica hears Simpson's partner asking asks him why he's so sure there's a dead body in the apartment that they realize he's back because he remembers what he did.
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' Kilgrave didn't send him back.
-->'''Trish
back.\\
'''Trish
Walker:''' Then why is he trying to break down my door?!
-->'''Jessica
door?!\\
'''Jessica
Jones:''' He thinks he killed you. I recognize that look.
** On Simpson's end, it's a reminder that Kilgrave's victims ''are'' 100% aware of the stuff they did while under his control. He's left thinking he killed Trish in the last episode, so he comes back and begins vigorously trying to break down the door with a battering ram, desperately hoping to prove himself wrong. While he is relieved to see that Trish is alive and well, the fact that he tried to strangle her gets confirmed when Trish shows takes off her scarf to show him the ugly red marks on her neck from where he had his thumbs wrapped around her vocal cords, causing him to mutter, "[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone I'm... I'm a goddamn monster!]]" Jessica has to go off to talk to Simpson in private to get him to calm down.



* Hope finds out that she's pregnant with Kilgrave's child. Horrified and disgusted at the thought that she's carrying the baby of the man who raped her both physically and mentally, and forced her to shoot her parents, she pays some of the other inmates to beat her up. Unfortunately, this doesn't cause the anticipated miscarriage and Hope still has to take painful abortion drugs to end the pregnancy.

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* Hope finds out that she's [[ChildByRape pregnant with Kilgrave's child.child]]. Horrified and disgusted at the thought that she's carrying the baby of the man who raped her both physically and mentally, and forced her to shoot her parents, she pays some of the other inmates to beat her up. Unfortunately, this doesn't cause the anticipated miscarriage and Hope still has to take painful abortion drugs to end the pregnancy.



** Before that, there's what he does to the poor guy who confronts him about his blatant cheating at poker: he makes the man bash his head into a post repeatedly. Since he never revokes the order, it can be assumed that the guy continued to do so until he died or the post collapsed, whichever came first.

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** Before that, there's what he does to the poor guy who confronts tries to confront him about his blatant cheating at poker: he makes the man bash his head into a post repeatedly. Since he never revokes the order, it can be assumed that the guy continued to do so until he died or the post collapsed, whichever came first.



-->'''Oscar Clemons:''' What the hell is going on here? Drop your weapons!
-->''[Brett pulls his gun and points it at Clemons' head]''
-->'''Oscar Clemons:''' Brett?!
-->'''Brett Mahoney:''' Shut up. Don't move.
-->'''Kilgrave:''' ''[emerges from underneath a desk]'' Oh, everyone, calm down, you're killing the mood!

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-->'''Oscar Clemons:''' What the hell is going on here? here?! Drop your weapons!
-->''[Brett
weapons!\\
''[Brett
pulls his gun and points it at Clemons' head]''
-->'''Oscar
head]''\\
'''Oscar
Clemons:''' Brett?!
-->'''Brett
Brett?!\\
'''Brett
Mahoney:''' Shut up. Don't move.
-->'''Kilgrave:'''
move.\\
'''Kilgrave:'''
''[emerges from underneath a desk]'' Oh, everyone, calm down, you're killing the mood!



-->'''Kilgrave:''' Jessica. You're not surprised to see me. You had to know I'd come for you. Not this fast? I... I will admit to keeping eyes on you. Spies are easy to come by, for me.
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' Do whatever you're going to do to me, but let them go.
-->'''Kilgrave:''' Well, I have to protect myself, so...
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' Then control me, not them.
-->'''Kilgrave:''' I have absolutely no intention of controlling you. I want you to act on your own accord.
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' Act how? Suicide? Is that why you've been torturing me?
-->'''Kilgrave:''' Oh, my God. Jessica, I knew you were insecure. That's just sad. I'm not torturing you. Why would I? I love you.
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' You have been ruining... my life.
-->'''Kilgrave:''' You didn't have a life.
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' As a demented declaration of love?
-->'''Kilgrave:''' No, obviously. I... I was trying... to show you what I see. That I'm the only one who matches you. Who challenges you. Who'll do anything for you.
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' This is a sick joke. You have killed innocent people.
-->'''Kilgrave:''' Oh, well, that... that milquetoast little man-boy? He interrupted me while I was leaving you a present, which, apparently, you didn't even find. Come on! You cannot pretend he didn't irritate you, too. I wanted to slap him after 30 seconds. I know. I realize this will take time. But I'm gonna prove it to you.

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-->'''Kilgrave:''' Jessica. You're not surprised to see me. You had to know I'd come for you. Not this fast? I... I will admit to keeping eyes on you. Spies are easy to come by, for me.
-->'''Jessica
me.\\
'''Jessica
Jones:''' Do whatever you're going to do to me, but let them go.
-->'''Kilgrave:'''
go.\\
'''Kilgrave:'''
Well, I have to protect myself, so...
-->'''Jessica
so...\\
'''Jessica
Jones:''' Then control me, not them.
-->'''Kilgrave:'''
them.\\
'''Kilgrave:'''
I have absolutely no intention of controlling you. I want you to act on your own accord.
-->'''Jessica
accord.\\
'''Jessica
Jones:''' Act how? Suicide? Is that why you've been torturing me?
-->'''Kilgrave:'''
me?\\
'''Kilgrave:'''
Oh, my God. Jessica, I knew you were insecure. That's just sad. I'm not torturing you. Why would I? I love you.
-->'''Jessica
you.\\
'''Jessica
Jones:''' You have been ruining... my life.
-->'''Kilgrave:'''
life.\\
'''Kilgrave:'''
You didn't have a life.
-->'''Jessica
life.\\
'''Jessica
Jones:''' As a demented declaration of love?
-->'''Kilgrave:'''
love?\\
'''Kilgrave:'''
No, obviously. I... I was trying... to show you what I see. That I'm the only one who matches you. Who challenges you. Who'll do anything for you.
-->'''Jessica
you.\\
'''Jessica
Jones:''' This is a sick joke. You have killed innocent people.
-->'''Kilgrave:'''
people.\\
'''Kilgrave:'''
Oh, well, that... that milquetoast little man-boy? He interrupted me while I was leaving you a present, which, apparently, you didn't even find. Come on! You cannot pretend he didn't irritate you, too. I wanted to slap him after 30 seconds. I know. I realize this will take time. But I'm gonna prove it to you.



** Among the cops that Kilgrave controls is Brett Mahoney. This allows you to see how Kilgrave's behavior works on someone we're already familiar with: those who came here straight from the first season of ''Series/Daredevil2015'' are familiar with Brett Mahoney as Nelson & Murdock's friend on the force who put the handcuffs on Wilson Fisk, yet he behaves so differently under Kilgrave's control that he might as well be someone else. Most people would react like Clemons does when Brett points a gun at him.
** In season 2, we learn that Costa was another one of the cops under Kilgrave's control. He says he had nightmares after what happened, and they stopped only once Kilgrave died.

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** Among the cops that Kilgrave controls is Brett Mahoney. This allows you to see how Kilgrave's behavior works on someone we're already familiar with: those who came here straight from the first season of ''Series/Daredevil2015'' ''Series/{{Daredevil|2015}}'' are familiar with Brett Mahoney as Nelson & Murdock's Matt and Foggy's friend on the force who put the handcuffs on Wilson Fisk, yet he behaves so differently under Kilgrave's control that he might as well be someone else. Most people would react like Clemons does when Brett points a gun at him.
** In season 2, we learn that Detective Costa was another one of the cops under Kilgrave's control. He says he had nightmares after what happened, and they stopped only once Kilgrave died.



-->'''Kilgrave:''' "I want you to know, I forgive you for everything. I'll say it every day for as long as you need to hear it."
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' You heard that?
-->'''Kilgrave:''' ''[smirks]'' I '''WROTE''' IT!! ''[singsong voice]'' Surprise!
-->''[Luke appears and punches Jessica on the face, throwing her across the room]''
-->'''Kilgrave:''' Mr. Cage had been ordered to ring me about your exploits since before he blew up his seedy little bar. Uh, the 12-hour window at that point was actually 16 hours. Now it's 24... and a hundred yards. Did you think he was more powerful than me? With his unbreakable skin? Is that why you desired him?
-->'''Luke Cage:''' You really thought I could forgive you? You killed my wife.
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' That's not you talking, that's him.
-->'''Luke Cage:''' Shut up.
-->'''Kilgrave:''' I tried so hard to avoid this, Jessica. This is not what I wanted. But you failed the test. [into mike] Kill her.
-->''[Luke starts approaching Jessica]''
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' No. You can fight this. Luke. ''[Luke tries to punch her, she grabs his fist. Both keep pushing each other, until Luke prevails.]''
-->'''Kilgrave:''' Every move he made was mine. Those tender moments. Those sweet things he shared, it was all me. It was our sexual tension. It was all me! You chose wrong, Jessica. You always have. Stop her, Cage!

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-->'''Kilgrave:''' "I want you to know, I forgive you for everything. I'll say it every day for as long as you need to hear it."
-->'''Jessica
"\\
'''Jessica
Jones:''' You heard that?
-->'''Kilgrave:'''
that?\\
'''Kilgrave:'''
''[smirks]'' I '''WROTE''' IT!! ''[singsong voice]'' Surprise!
-->''[Luke
Surprise!\\
''[Luke
appears and punches Jessica on the face, throwing her across the room]''
-->'''Kilgrave:'''
room]''\\
'''Kilgrave:'''
Mr. Cage had been ordered to ring me about your exploits since before he blew up his seedy little bar. Uh, the 12-hour window at that point was actually 16 hours. Now it's 24... and a hundred yards. Did you think he was more powerful than me? With his unbreakable skin? Is that why you desired him?
-->'''Luke
him?\\
'''Luke
Cage:''' You really thought I could forgive you? You killed my wife.
-->'''Jessica
wife.\\
'''Jessica
Jones:''' That's not you talking, that's him.
-->'''Luke
him.\\
'''Luke
Cage:''' Shut up.
-->'''Kilgrave:'''
up.\\
'''Kilgrave:'''
I tried so hard to avoid this, Jessica. This is not what I wanted. But you failed the test. [into mike] ''[into mike]'' Kill her.
-->''[Luke
her.\\
''[Luke
starts approaching Jessica]''
-->'''Jessica
Jessica]''\\
'''Jessica
Jones:''' No. You can fight this. Luke. ''[Luke tries to punch her, she grabs his fist. Both keep pushing each other, until Luke prevails.]''
-->'''Kilgrave:'''
]''\\
'''Kilgrave:'''
Every move he made was mine. Those tender moments. Those sweet things he shared, it was all me. It was our sexual tension. It was all me! You chose wrong, Jessica. You always have. Stop her, Cage!



* In a non-Kilgrave related case, Dorothy Walker invading Trish's apartment is this for anyone who grew up with abusive parents. She just walks right in, examining the place like Smaug would a hoard of gold, acting like she has every right to be there when she very clearly doesn't. The scene comes complete with the guilt tripping, emotional manipulation, and self-serving motives of a textbook abuser (many of which we saw in the flashbacks), and it's hard to watch if you know what Trish is going through. Doubles as a CMOA for Trish, as you can see how much it takes out of her to tell her mother to leave.

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* In a non-Kilgrave related case, Dorothy Walker invading Walker's visit to Trish's apartment is this for anyone who grew up with abusive parents. She just walks right in, examining the place like Smaug would a hoard of gold, acting like she has every right to be there when she very clearly doesn't. The scene comes complete with the guilt tripping, emotional manipulation, and self-serving motives of a textbook abuser (many of which we saw in the flashbacks), and it's hard to watch if you know what Trish is going through. Doubles as a CMOA for Trish, as you can see how much it takes out of her to tell her mother to leave.



* We see the event that gave Inez her lacerations: Alisa gets loose and attempts to escape to go seek out Jessica. First, she pushes Inez into a glass container hard enough to embed shards, then, as Luanne [=McClure=] tries to push the emergency button to call for help, Alisa grabs her and snaps her neck like nothing. We are given a focus shot of these two, Inez lying maimed on the ground with huge glass shards sticking out of her back, unable to move or turn away from her dead coworker.

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* We see the event that gave Inez her lacerations: Alisa gets loose and attempts to escape to go seek out Jessica. First, she pushes Inez into a glass container hard enough to embed shards, shards of glass into her back, then, as Luanne [=McClure=] tries to push the emergency button to call for help, Alisa grabs her and snaps her neck like nothing. We are given a focus shot of these two, Inez lying maimed on the ground with huge glass shards sticking out of her back, unable to move or turn away from her dead coworker.



** Even worse, Jessica hit him so the tonfa-style baton's handle impacted his head, not the baton itself. If she'd been able to see, she might have hit him with the broader side, instead of all the force focused on the end of the handle, and the blow might not have been fatal.

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** Even worse, Jessica hit hits him so the tonfa-style baton's handle impacted impacts his head, not the baton itself. If she'd been able to see, she might have hit him with the broader side, instead of all the force focused on the end of the handle, and the blow might not have been fatal.



* Jeri's baroque revenge on Shane and Inez really stands out for how ''pointlessly'' cruel it is: she could easily get them thrown in jail, but instead goes right to psychologically manipulating Inez into killing a man who apparently really does love her, before sending her away for that. As harsh as she was before, this is a Jeri Hogarth who truly has nothing left to lose.

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* Jeri's baroque revenge on Shane and Inez really stands out for how ''pointlessly'' cruel it is: she could easily get them thrown in jail, have just gone to the police and filed criminal charges, but instead goes right to psychologically manipulating Inez into killing a man who apparently really does love her, before sending her away for that. As harsh as she was before, this is a Jeri Hogarth who truly has nothing left to lose.

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* Jessica comes home from working the case to find a strange man in her apartment doing who knows what. It turns out to just be a guy that Trish hired to repair her door, but still, imagine the terrifying scenarios that must have been going through her head, especially given her PTSD and the fact that she has a superpowered psycho-stalker.

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* Jessica comes home from working the case to find a strange man in her apartment doing who knows what. It turns out to just be a guy the repairman that Trish hired to repair replace her door, but still, imagine the terrifying scenarios that must have been going through her head, especially given her PTSD and the fact that for all she has a superpowered psycho-stalker.knows, he was sent by Kilgrave.



* Trish tries to use her talk show to raise some sympathy for Hope, but when Jeri is doubtful, Trish, who knows ''very well Kilgrave is real'' as well as what he did to Hope and Jessica, starts a tirade which devolves into bashing Kilgrave. [[SpeakOfTheDevil Kilgrave immediately calls in]], causing shocked looks from Trish, Jessica and even Jeri and causing Hope to go into a screaming fit:

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* Trish tries to use her talk show to raise some sympathy for Hope, but when Jeri is doubtful, Trish, who knows ''very well Kilgrave is real'' as well as what he did to Hope and Jessica, starts a tirade which devolves into bashing Kilgrave. [[SpeakOfTheDevil Kilgrave immediately calls in]], causing shocked looks from Trish, Jessica and even Jeri and [[TraumaButton causing Hope to go into a screaming fit:fit]]:



* Trish is thrown into a panic when Simpson comes back to her apartment with another officer, and begins furiously trying to break down her door, thinking that Kilgrave has sent him back to finish her off. It's only when Jessica hears Simpson's partner asking him why he's so sure there's a dead body in the apartment that they realize he's back because he remembers what he did.

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* Trish is thrown into a panic when Simpson comes back to her apartment with another officer, and begins furiously trying to break down her door, door (getting a battering ram when he finds it's reinforced), thinking that Kilgrave has sent him back to finish her off. It's only when Jessica hears Simpson's partner asking him why he's so sure there's a dead body in the apartment that they realize he's back because he remembers what he did.



** A father whose young son was acting up on a drive. While the car was stopped at a light, Kilgrave got in and made the guy drive on. Kilgrave got irritated by the kid's crying, so he made the father abandon his son on the side of the road. The man spent a week as Kilgrave's chauffeur and when he was finally released, he was arrested for child endangerment, his wife left him and he lost his job. And that's being lucky....

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** A father whose young son was acting up on a drive. While the car was stopped at a light, Kilgrave got in and made the guy drive on. Kilgrave got irritated by the kid's crying, so he made the father abandon his son on the side of the road. The man spent a week as Kilgrave's chauffeur and when he was finally released, [[CartesianKarma he was arrested for child endangerment, his wife left him and he lost his job.job]]. And that's being lucky....



** One man was on a subway platform, waiting for his train, when Kilgrave ordered him to fork over his coat. This would normally be a simple petty crime. But because it's Kilgrave, the act ends up traumatizing the man because of the victimization and lack of control. Kilgrave valued the jacket more than the guy he took it from, seeing the guy as little more than a glorified jacket delivery service.

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** One man was on a subway platform, waiting for his train, when Kilgrave ordered made him to fork over his coat. This would normally be a simple petty crime. But because it's Kilgrave, the act ends up traumatizing the man because of the victimization and lack of control. Kilgrave valued the jacket more than the guy he took it from, seeing the guy as little more than a glorified jacket delivery service.



* When Jessica's black bag operation fails, Kilgrave gives her an ultimatum: he'll continue to use and abuse Malcolm, whom he'd be able to hook back onto drugs with his powers, or Jessica can take over Malcolm's job, and send Kilgrave selfies every day at 10:00 a.m. on the dot. So, in order to protect her friend, she has to send selfies to her former rapist, and follow his precise wishes concerning it. That's the kind of thing sexual assault survivors have nightmares about.

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* Kilgrave turns out to be smart enough to have a backup plan in case his powers get disabled: he just pays a private security firm to send guys to protect him. This ends up ruining the black bag operation as they swoop in, easily tase Trish before she can even step out of the van, manage to overpower Jessica and Simpson, then extract Kilgrave and drive off.
* When Jessica's black bag operation fails, Kilgrave gives her an ultimatum: he'll continue to use and abuse Malcolm, whom he'd be able to hook back onto drugs with his powers, or Jessica can take over Malcolm's job, and send Kilgrave selfies every day at 10:00 a.m. on the dot. So, in order to protect her friend, she has to send selfies to her former rapist, and follow his precise wishes concerning it. That's the kind of thing sexual assault survivors have nightmares about.



* Luke Cage intending to violently beat to death Charles Wallace, the driver of the crashed bus the night Reva died and convinced he was the one who killed her as he was found drunk while on the job. Jessica under the control of Kilgrave was the one to do it. Luckily Jessica intervenes but Luke was serious about killing a man who was apologetic and repentant instead of denying his presumed guilt.

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* Luke Cage intending intends to violently beat to death Charles Wallace, the driver of the crashed bus the night Reva died and convinced he was the one who killed her as he was found drunk while on the job. Jessica under the control of Kilgrave was the one to do it. Luckily Jessica intervenes but Luke was serious about killing a man who was apologetic and repentant instead of denying his presumed guilt.



** Why has Kilgrave been stalking Jessica and ruining other peoples' lives? ''Because he thinks he loves her.'' Terror, disgust and disbelief leave Jessica scrambling for words and trying desperately to make sense of it all.

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** Why has Kilgrave been stalking Jessica and ruining other peoples' lives? ''Because in his twisted mind, he thinks he loves her.'' Terror, disgust and disbelief leave Jessica scrambling for words and trying desperately to make sense of it all.



-->'''Kilgrave:''' Whose is that? ''[cell phone continues to ring as Kilgrave stalks around the room, looking for the phone]'' Whose phone is that?! ''[Kilgrave approaches Clemons, the source of the ringing. Upon getting a silent confirmation that yes, this is his phone, Kilgrave takes Clemons' phone and throws it at a wall, shattering it into pieces]'' THE NEXT PERSON WHOSE PHONE RINGS '''''HAS TO EAT IT!!''''' ''[Kilgrave rubs his hands over his face and paces around the room, trying to compose himself]'' Crappy fluorescent lights and cockroaches and loud cell phones and the smell of piss! I am trying to profess eternal ''love'' here, people!

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-->'''Kilgrave:''' Whose is that? ''[cell phone continues to ring as Kilgrave stalks around the room, looking for the phone]'' Whose phone is that?! ''[Kilgrave approaches Clemons, the source of the ringing. Upon getting a silent confirmation that yes, this is his phone, Kilgrave takes Clemons' phone and throws it at a wall, shattering it into pieces]'' THE NEXT PERSON WHOSE PHONE RINGS '''''HAS TO EAT IT!!''''' IT!!!''''' ''[Kilgrave rubs his hands over his face and paces around the room, trying to compose himself]'' Crappy fluorescent lights and cockroaches and loud cell phones and the smell of piss! I am trying to profess eternal ''love'' here, people!



** Among the cops that Kilgrave controls is Brett Mahoney. This allows you to see how Kilgrave's behavior works on someone we're already familiar with: it's the Brett Mahoney who grew up with Foggy Nelson and who put the handcuffs on Wilson Fisk, yet he behaves so differently under Kilgrave's control that he might as well be someone else. Most people would react like Clemons does when Brett points a gun at him.

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** Among the cops that Kilgrave controls is Brett Mahoney. This allows you to see how Kilgrave's behavior works on someone we're already familiar with: it's those who came here straight from the first season of ''Series/Daredevil2015'' are familiar with Brett Mahoney who grew up with Foggy as Nelson and & Murdock's friend on the force who put the handcuffs on Wilson Fisk, yet he behaves so differently under Kilgrave's control that he might as well be someone else. Most people would react like Clemons does when Brett points a gun at him.



** There's a reason he was put under so many horrific surgeries- he was born with a degenerative neurological condition that would have resulted in him being brain-dead by the time he was twelve, and his parents were trying to save him. Eventually, they succeeded, but the method they used also gave him his powers, which he immediately put to horrific use.

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** There's a reason he was put under so many horrific surgeries- he was born with a degenerative neurological condition that would have resulted in him being brain-dead by the time he was twelve, and his parents were trying to save ''save'' him. Eventually, they succeeded, but the method they used also gave him his powers, which he immediately put to horrific use.



** There's another way that can be interpreted: instead of going by the slang term of 'screw', the guy might have actually ''picked up a drill'' '''''and literally SCREWED himself'''''. It's hard to say which is worse to imagine.

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** There's another way that can be interpreted: instead of going by the slang term of 'screw', because Kilgrave's words can be interpreted so many ways, the guy might have actually ''picked up a drill'' '''''and literally SCREWED himself'''''. It's hard to say which is worse to imagine.



** Then Kilgrave tells his father to cut his heart out. Luckily Jessica knocked him out before he got started.

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** Then Kilgrave tells his father to cut his heart out. Luckily Jessica knocked knocks him out before he got gets started.



* Kilgrave commanding Wendy that if she wants to make a thousand cuts to Jeri, let her do it. While it's not necessary for her to make a thousand cuts (Kilgrave gave Wendy ''some free will''), it's still scary.

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* Kilgrave commanding Wendy that if she wants to make attack Jeri, saying "You wanted death by a thousand cuts to Jeri, let her cuts? Then do it. While it's it!" It's not necessary for her to make a thousand cuts (Kilgrave gave gives Wendy ''some free will''), it's still scary.



* Hope's death and the situation regarding it is horrible. She [[SlashedThroat slices her throat open]] which prompts Kilgrave to command the hostages on the banister to step forward and hang themselves. Jessica has to use all strength to rip the post from the ceiling to ensure that there is only ONE funeral, not five.

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* Hope's death and the situation regarding it is horrible. She [[SlashedThroat slices her throat open]] which prompts Kilgrave to command the hostages on the banister bar counter to step forward and hang themselves. Jessica has to use all strength to rip the post from the ceiling to ensure that there is only ONE funeral, not five.



* The effect that the pills have on a human body is terrifying. They heighten the user's adrenaline yet also shut down their pain receptors, causing the person in question to ignore serious injuries. Will Simpson doesn't even flinch from the burns on his arm one bit and hardly reacts to Jessica's blows at all.

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* The effect that the pills have on a human body is terrifying. They heighten the user's adrenaline yet also shut down their pain receptors, causing the person in question to ignore serious injuries. Will Simpson doesn't even flinch from the burns on his arm one bit and hardly reacts to Jessica's blows at all.



-->'''Kilgrave:''' ''[smirks]'' I ''WROTE'' IT!! ''[singsong voice]'' Surprise!

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-->'''Kilgrave:''' ''[smirks]'' I ''WROTE'' '''WROTE''' IT!! ''[singsong voice]'' Surprise!



** What makes this more disturbing is the fact that Kilgrave's power has now increased dramatically. Now instead of being under a control for just 12 hours, a victim is susceptible to his command ''for an ENTIRE DAY.'' Then there's the fact that he can control hundreds of people at once. If he really wanted to, he could send an army after Jessica. Which is almost exactly what he does in the next episode.

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** What makes this more disturbing is the fact that Kilgrave's power has now increased dramatically. Now instead of being under a control for just 12 hours, a victim is susceptible to his command ''for an ENTIRE DAY.'' Then there's the fact that he can control hundreds of people at once. If he really wanted to, he could send an army after Jessica. Which is almost exactly what he does in the next episode.



* In a non-Kilgrave related case, Dorothy Walker invading Trish's apartment is this if you grew up with abusive parents. She just walks right in, examining the place like Smaug would a hoard of gold, acting as if she has every right to be there when she very clearly doesn't. The scene comes complete with the guilt tripping, emotional manipulation, and self-serving motives of a textbook abuser (many of which we saw in the flashbacks), and it's hard to watch if you know what Trish is going through. Doubles as a CMOA for Trish, as you can see how much it takes out of her to tell her mother to leave.

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* In a non-Kilgrave related case, Dorothy Walker invading Trish's apartment is this if you for anyone who grew up with abusive parents. She just walks right in, examining the place like Smaug would a hoard of gold, acting as if like she has every right to be there when she very clearly doesn't. The scene comes complete with the guilt tripping, emotional manipulation, and self-serving motives of a textbook abuser (many of which we saw in the flashbacks), and it's hard to watch if you know what Trish is going through. Doubles as a CMOA for Trish, as you can see how much it takes out of her to tell her mother to leave.



* Jessica’s brutal beatdown of Cheng is this considering it is Jessica who assaulted him first and as Cheng tries to defend himself (while at the same time goading her) the beating gets worse with Jessica nearly killing him before coming to her senses.

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* Jessica’s brutal beatdown of Cheng is this considering it is Jessica who assaulted him first and as Cheng tries to defend himself (while at the same time goading her) the her). The beating gets worse with Jessica nearly killing him before coming to her senses.
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* Most could agree that [[AxCrazy Gregory Salinger]] is the scariest aspect of Season 3. To clarify, the man is a vicious SerialKiller who loves to torment and torture his victims before killing them. Just think of an EvilCounterpart of [[Series/ThePunisher2017 Frank Castle]], that's how scary this guy is.

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* Most could agree that [[AxCrazy Gregory Salinger]] is the scariest aspect of Season 3. To clarify, the man is a vicious SerialKiller who loves to torment and torture his victims before killing them. Just think of an EvilCounterpart of [[Series/ThePunisher2017 Frank Castle]], '''[[Series/ThePunisher2017 THE PUNISHER]]''', that's how scary this guy is.
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* It's a minor one, but Inez freaks out when Malcolm pulls up a crime scene photo of Luanne. He admits that he found it on an online black market for crime scene pictures. Just the fact that there are people who pay money to see such gory material raises a lot of shivers.

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* It's a minor one, but Inez freaks out when Malcolm pulls up a crime scene photo of Luanne.Luanne [=McClure=]. He admits that he found it on an online black market for crime scene pictures. Just the fact that there are people who pay money to see such gory material raises a lot of shivers.



* We see the event that gave Inez her lacerations: Alisa gets loose and attempts to escape to go seek out Jessica. First, she pushes Inez into a glass container hard enough to embed shards, then, as Luann tries to push the emergency button to call for help, Alisa grabs her and snaps her neck. We are given a focus shot of these two, Inez lying maimed on the ground with huge glass shards sticking out of her back, unable to move or turn away from her dead coworker.

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* We see the event that gave Inez her lacerations: Alisa gets loose and attempts to escape to go seek out Jessica. First, she pushes Inez into a glass container hard enough to embed shards, then, as Luann Luanne [=McClure=] tries to push the emergency button to call for help, Alisa grabs her and snaps her neck.neck like nothing. We are given a focus shot of these two, Inez lying maimed on the ground with huge glass shards sticking out of her back, unable to move or turn away from her dead coworker.
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-->'''Kilgrave:''' ''[smirks]'' I WROTE IT!! ''[singsong voice]'' Surprise!

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-->'''Kilgrave:''' ''[smirks]'' I WROTE ''WROTE'' IT!! ''[singsong voice]'' Surprise!



* Searching the basement of Dr. Hansen's building, Jessica reaches into the incinerator and pulls out the ''charred remains of a human head''. Jessica drops it in shock when she realizes what she's holding, while Trish covers her mouth and almost vomits.

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* Searching the basement of Dr. Hansen's building, Jessica reaches into the incinerator and pulls out the ''charred charred remains of a human head''.head. Jessica drops it in shock when she realizes what she's holding, while Trish covers her mouth and almost vomits.



* Alisa's brutal murder of Nick Spanos, Pryce Cheng's fixer and best friend. Nick is attacked as he's loading the stuff he stole from Jessica's apartment into his van, and when we next see his body, ''his entire arm has been torn off'' and the interior of the van is covered in blood.

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* Alisa's brutal murder of Nick Spanos, Pryce Cheng's fixer and best friend. Nick is attacked as he's loading the stuff he stole from Jessica's apartment into his van, and when we next see his body, ''his body, his entire arm has been torn off'' off and the interior of the van is covered in blood.

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* Kilgrave uses his poker winnings to purchase a house. At first, it seems fairly innocuous, even bit out-of-character, that he's buying somewhere to hole up instead of just making them give him their house. Then, whilst he's walking about the house he finds a door frame with notches in it, and peels back the wallpaper next to it to reveal that it's a height chart for one Jessica Jones. [[StalkerWithACrush He found the house she grew up in.]]

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* Kilgrave uses his poker winnings to purchase a house. At first, it seems fairly innocuous, even bit out-of-character, that he's buying somewhere to hole up instead of just making them give him their house. Then, whilst he's walking about the house he finds a door frame with notches in it, and peels back the wallpaper wallpaper, in a very "Blink"-esque way, next to it to reveal that it's a height chart for one Jessica Jones.Jones. Then the camera cuts to the exterior of the house, and pulls back to reveal a street sign for Higgins Drive and Birch Street. [[StalkerWithACrush He found the house she grew up in.]]



* Let's remember that the point of this episode is that Kilgrave has blackmailed Jessica into living with him. Jess has to live in the same house, eat with, and spend time with a man who'd previously and repeatedly raped her, and kept her as a slave for quite some time. Like the photograph blackmail thing above, this is right out of the worst fears of someone with Jessica's experiences.

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* Let's remember that the point of this episode is that Kilgrave has blackmailed Jessica into living with him. Jess While she's immune to his powers, it's clear Kilgrave can exert an awful lot of control of her just through pure manipulation. Jessica has to live in the same house, eat with, and spend time with a man who'd previously and repeatedly raped her, and kept her as a slave for quite some time. Like the photograph blackmail thing above, this is right out of the worst fears of someone with Jessica's experiences.



** It gets worse when you realize that this type of torture is chillingly similar to the torture methods of Gregory Salinger, the BigBad of Season 3.

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** It gets worse when you realize that this type of torture is chillingly similar to the torture methods of that Gregory Salinger, the BigBad of Salinger uses in Season 3.



* Will Simpson, after having taken his Combat Enhancers. He was already out for blood beforehand, but now that his team is dead, he is at his [[RageBreakingPoint limit]]. For a start, he murders Oscar Clemmons when he refuses to let him go through with killing Kilgrave. Then when he is approached by Kozlov's men, he shoots them both dead as well. Then, he tries to murder Jessica in her apartment, blaming her for all the people that have died. With the red pills in his system he is able to physically match her and even overpower her in combat.

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* Will Simpson, after having taken his Combat Enhancers.combat enhancers. He was already out for blood beforehand, but now that his team is dead, he is at his [[RageBreakingPoint limit]]. For a start, he murders Oscar Clemmons when he refuses to let him go through with killing Kilgrave. Then when he is approached by Kozlov's men, he shoots them both dead as well. Then, he tries to murder Jessica in her apartment, blaming her for all the people that have died. With the red pills in his system he is able to physically match her and even overpower her in combat.



** Then Trish takes a Combat Enhancer which nearly kills her because her body is not used to it. Her adrenaline spikes which causes her brain to forget to pump blood to her heart. In short, she nearly dies of a seizure right then and there.

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** Then Trish takes a Combat Enhancer pill, which nearly kills her because her body is not used to it. Her adrenaline spikes which causes her brain to forget to pump blood to her heart. In short, she nearly dies of a seizure right then and there.



* Four words: '''"It was me, Jessica!"''' Kilgrave manipulated Luke so that not only did it appear that he had forgiven Jessica, but he said exactly what Jessica needed to hear. When the deception is revealed, Kilgrave starts laughing like a lunatic as he quotes several romantic things Luke said over the course of the episode, all the while crowing about how it was ''his'' chemistry with her, ''his'' relationship that was what Jessica truly desired.

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* Four words: '''"It was me, Jessica!"''' It turns out that Kilgrave manipulated Luke so that not only did it appear that he had forgiven Jessica, but he said exactly what Jessica needed to hear. When the deception is revealed, Kilgrave starts laughing like a lunatic as he quotes several romantic things Luke said over the course of the episode, all the while crowing about how it was ''his'' chemistry with her, ''his'' relationship that was what Jessica truly desired.desired.
-->'''Kilgrave:''' "I want you to know, I forgive you for everything. I'll say it every day for as long as you need to hear it."
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' You heard that?
-->'''Kilgrave:''' ''[smirks]'' I WROTE IT!! ''[singsong voice]'' Surprise!
-->''[Luke appears and punches Jessica on the face, throwing her across the room]''
-->'''Kilgrave:''' Mr. Cage had been ordered to ring me about your exploits since before he blew up his seedy little bar. Uh, the 12-hour window at that point was actually 16 hours. Now it's 24... and a hundred yards. Did you think he was more powerful than me? With his unbreakable skin? Is that why you desired him?
-->'''Luke Cage:''' You really thought I could forgive you? You killed my wife.
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' That's not you talking, that's him.
-->'''Luke Cage:''' Shut up.
-->'''Kilgrave:''' I tried so hard to avoid this, Jessica. This is not what I wanted. But you failed the test. [into mike] Kill her.
-->''[Luke starts approaching Jessica]''
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' No. You can fight this. Luke. ''[Luke tries to punch her, she grabs his fist. Both keep pushing each other, until Luke prevails.]''
-->'''Kilgrave:''' Every move he made was mine. Those tender moments. Those sweet things he shared, it was all me. It was our sexual tension. It was all me! You chose wrong, Jessica. You always have. Stop her, Cage!



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* It's a minor one, but Inez freaks out when Malcolm pulls up a crime scene photo of Luanne. He admits that he found it on an online black market for crime scene pictures. Inez is in as much disbelief as the audience at the fact there really are people who pay money to see such gory material.

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* We see the event that left Inez so traumatized and scarred: Alisa gets loose and attempts to escape to go seek out Jessica. First, she pushes Inez into a glass container hard enough to embed shards, then, as Luann tries to push the emergency button to call for help, Alisa grabs her and snaps her neck. We are given a focus shot of these two, Inez lying maimed on the ground with huge glass shards sticking out of her back, unable to move or turn away from her dead coworker.

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* We see the event that left gave Inez so traumatized and scarred: her lacerations: Alisa gets loose and attempts to escape to go seek out Jessica. First, she pushes Inez into a glass container hard enough to embed shards, then, as Luann tries to push the emergency button to call for help, Alisa grabs her and snaps her neck. We are given a focus shot of these two, Inez lying maimed on the ground with huge glass shards sticking out of her back, unable to move or turn away from her dead coworker.
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** For once, we see Kilgrave lose his superficial charm and come off as sincerely angry when a phone rings.
-->'''Kilgrave:''' Whose is that? ''[cell phone continues to ring as Kilgrave stalks around the room, looking for the phone]'' Whose phone is that?! ''[Kilgrave approaches Clemons, the source of the ringing. Upon getting a silent confirmation that yes, this is his phone, Kilgrave takes Clemons' phone and throws it at a wall, shattering it into pieces]'' THE NEXT PERSON WHOSE PHONE RINGS '''''HAS TO EAT IT!!''''' Crappy fluorescent lights and cockroaches and loud cell phones and the smell of piss! I am trying to profess eternal ''love'' here, people!

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** For once, we see Kilgrave lose his superficial charm and come off as sincerely angry [[RingRingCrunch when a phone rings.rings]].
-->'''Kilgrave:''' Whose is that? ''[cell phone continues to ring as Kilgrave stalks around the room, looking for the phone]'' Whose phone is that?! ''[Kilgrave approaches Clemons, the source of the ringing. Upon getting a silent confirmation that yes, this is his phone, Kilgrave takes Clemons' phone and throws it at a wall, shattering it into pieces]'' THE NEXT PERSON WHOSE PHONE RINGS '''''HAS TO EAT IT!!''''' ''[Kilgrave rubs his hands over his face and paces around the room, trying to compose himself]'' Crappy fluorescent lights and cockroaches and loud cell phones and the smell of piss! I am trying to profess eternal ''love'' here, people!
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* If we could make a whole page out of the stories of Kilgrave's victims...
** One victim is a father whose young son was acting up on a drive. While the car was stopped at a light, Kilgrave got in and made the guy drive on. Kilgrave got irritated by the kid's crying, so he made the father abandon his son on the side of the road. The man spent a week as Kilgrave's chauffeur and when he was finally released, he was arrested for child endangerment, his wife left him and he lost his job. And that's being lucky....
** Kilgrave forced a woman to play the cello for him without rest until she eventually made a mistake. His response was to make her injure her hands.
** Kilgrave forced one woman to follow him around constantly smiling for (at least) hours on end. Painful enough after a time. But what if he wanted her to do something other than ''smile'' for hours on end?

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victims to come forward. There are obvious frauds, but then there are the real stories:
** One victim is a A father whose young son was acting up on a drive. While the car was stopped at a light, Kilgrave got in and made the guy drive on. Kilgrave got irritated by the kid's crying, so he made the father abandon his son on the side of the road. The man spent a week as Kilgrave's chauffeur and when he was finally released, he was arrested for child endangerment, his wife left him and he lost his job. And that's being lucky....
** Kilgrave forced made a woman to play the cello for him without rest until she eventually made a mistake. His response was to make her injure her hands.
** Kilgrave forced one made a woman to follow him around constantly smiling for (at least) hours on end. Painful enough after a time. But what if he wanted her to do something other than ''smile'' for hours on end?
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* A rare non-Kilgrave case: Trish is thrown into a panic when Simpson comes back to her apartment with another officer, and begins furiously trying to break down her door, thinking that Kilgrave has sent him back to finish her off. It's only when Jessica hears Simpson's partner asking him why he's so sure there's a dead body in the apartment that they realize he's back because he thinks he killed Trish.
** On Simpson's end, it's a reminder that Kilgrave's victims ''are'' 100% aware of the stuff they did while under his control. He's left thinking he killed Trish in the last episode, so he comes back and begins vigorously trying to break down the door with a battering ram, desperately hoping to prove himself wrong. While he is relieved to see that Trish is alive and well, the fact that he choked her gets confirmed when Trish shows him the ugly red marks on her neck from where he had his thumbs wrapped around her vocal cords, causing him to mutter, "[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone I'm... I'm a goddamn monster!]]" Jessica has to go off to talk to Simpson in private to get him to calm down.

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* A rare non-Kilgrave case: Trish is thrown into a panic when Simpson comes back to her apartment with another officer, and begins furiously trying to break down her door, thinking that Kilgrave has sent him back to finish her off. It's only when Jessica hears Simpson's partner asking him why he's so sure there's a dead body in the apartment that they realize he's back because he remembers what he did.
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' Kilgrave didn't send him back.
-->'''Trish Walker:''' Then why is he trying to break down my door?!
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' He
thinks he killed Trish.you. I recognize that look.
** On Simpson's end, it's a reminder that Kilgrave's victims ''are'' 100% aware of the stuff they did while under his control. He's left thinking he killed Trish in the last episode, so he comes back and begins vigorously trying to break down the door with a battering ram, desperately hoping to prove himself wrong. While he is relieved to see that Trish is alive and well, the fact that he choked tried to strangle her gets confirmed when Trish shows him the ugly red marks on her neck from where he had his thumbs wrapped around her vocal cords, causing him to mutter, "[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone I'm... I'm a goddamn monster!]]" Jessica has to go off to talk to Simpson in private to get him to calm down.



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** Kilgrave forced one woman to follow him around constantly smiling for (at least) hours on end. Painful enough after a time. Then you have to ask yourself, "What if he wanted her to do something other than ''smile'' for hours on end?"

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* What Kilgrave did to Malcolm. He used to be a promising and successful social worker until he was "recruited" by Kilgrave and became his spy. Since Kilgrave knew that his powers wear off after roughly 12 hours, he forcefully got Malcolm addicted to drugs he supplied in order to guarantee his return and turned him into a shell of his former self. All of this was done in six months. When Jessica confronts him about being the spy, Malcolm admits that all of his actions were partially of his own free will, just so he could get his next fix. All of this just shows how far Kilgrave is willing to go to get Jessica.

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* What Kilgrave did to Malcolm. He used to be a promising and successful social worker until he was "recruited" by Kilgrave and became his spy. Since Kilgrave knew that his powers wear off after roughly 12 hours, he forcefully got Malcolm addicted to drugs he supplied in order to guarantee his return and turned him into a shell of his former self.self (it helped that, as revealed in season 2, Malcolm was already a party animal and a bit of a user). All of this was done in six months. When Jessica confronts him about being the spy, Malcolm admits that all of his actions were partially of his own free will, just so he could get his next fix. All of this just shows how far Kilgrave is willing to go to get Jessica.



* When Jessica's black bag operation fails, Kilgrave gives her an ultimatum: he'll continue to use and abuse Malcolm, whom he'd be able to hook back onto drugs with his powers, or Jess can take over Malcolm's job, and send Kilgrave selfies every day at 10:00 a.m. on the dot. So, in order to protect her friend, she has to send selfies to her former rapist, and follow his precise wishes concerning it. That's the kind of thing sexual assault survivors have nightmares about.

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* When Jessica's black bag operation fails, Kilgrave gives her an ultimatum: he'll continue to use and abuse Malcolm, whom he'd be able to hook back onto drugs with his powers, or Jess Jessica can take over Malcolm's job, and send Kilgrave selfies every day at 10:00 a.m. on the dot. So, in order to protect her friend, she has to send selfies to her former rapist, and follow his precise wishes concerning it. That's the kind of thing sexual assault survivors have nightmares about.



** What he did to the poor guy who called bullshit on how he got those poker winnings: He made him bash his head into a post repeatedly. Since he never revoked the order, it can be assumed that the guy continued to do so until he died or the post collapsed, whichever came first.

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** What **Before that, there's what he did does to the poor guy who called bullshit on how he got those poker winnings: He made confronts him about his blatant cheating at poker: he makes the man bash his head into a post repeatedly. Since he never revoked revokes the order, it can be assumed that the guy continued to do so until he died or the post collapsed, whichever came first.



* Why has Kilgrave been stalking Jessica and ruining other peoples' lives? ''Because he thinks he loves her.'' Terror, disgust and disbelief leave Jessica scrambling for words and trying desperately to make sense of it all. Making this more nightmarish is that this conversation is going on in the middle of a precinct where he's ordered every cop to assume a MexicanStandoff or Russian roulette pose.
* Kilgrave's general behavior at the 15th Precinct. He gets mad when Clemons' phone rings, to the point that he hurls it at a wall and shouts, "THE NEXT PERSON WHOSE PHONE RINGS HAS TO EAT IT!!". He also goes on brief rant about how unpleasant he finds the precinct, complete with shouting about loud, annoying cell phones. It's one of the few times that we see him genuinely lose that superficial charm of his and come off as sincerely angry.
** And he never rescinds that order. Hope no one's phone rang in the next twelve hours or so- [[OhCrap oh shit, it's a police precinct.]] Someone's phone probably will ring within ten seconds of Kilgrave's departure. Then again, his last command was for every one to assume this was all a joke, possibly rendering the command nullified.
** Among the cops that Kilgrave controls is [[Series/Daredevil2015 Sgt. Brett Mahoney]]. This allows you to see how Kilgrave's behavior works on someone we're already familiar with: we see that it's still the same Brett who grew up with Foggy Nelson and who put the handcuffs on Wilson Fisk, but he behaves so differently under Kilgrave's control that he might as well be someone else. Most people would react like Clemons does when Brett points a gun at him.

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* Why has Kilgrave been stalking Jessica Midway through Jessica's attempt to convince Clemons to have her locked up, the door opens, and ruining other peoples' lives? ''Because he thinks he loves her.'' Terror, disgust and disbelief leave Jessica scrambling for words and trying desperately to make sense of it all. Making this more nightmarish is that this conversation is going on in the middle of a precinct where he's ordered every cop to assume a MexicanStandoff or Russian roulette pose.
* Kilgrave's general behavior at the 15th Precinct. He gets mad when Clemons' phone rings, to the point that he hurls it at a wall and shouts, "THE NEXT PERSON WHOSE PHONE RINGS HAS TO EAT IT!!". He also goes on brief rant about how unpleasant he finds the precinct, complete with shouting about loud, annoying cell phones. It's one of the few times that we see him genuinely lose that superficial charm of his and come off as sincerely angry.
** And he never rescinds that order. Hope no one's phone rang in the next twelve hours or so- [[OhCrap oh shit, it's a police precinct.]] Someone's phone probably will ring within ten seconds of Kilgrave's departure. Then again, his last command was for every one to assume this was all a joke, possibly rendering the command nullified.
** Among the cops that Kilgrave controls is
[[Series/Daredevil2015 Sgt. Brett Mahoney]]. This allows you Mahoney]] comes in to see how Kilgrave's behavior works on someone we're already familiar with: we see that it's still tell Jessica she's free to go. Jessica leaves the same Brett who grew up with Foggy Nelson interrogation room, thinking Hogarth had her sprung. Entering the bullpen...she finds every single cop in the room frozen in place, commanded by Kilgrave to [[MexicanStandoff point their guns at each other]] [[RussianRoulette or their own heads]].
-->'''Oscar Clemons:''' What the hell is going on here? Drop your weapons!
-->''[Brett pulls his gun
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**Why has Kilgrave been stalking Jessica and ruining other peoples' lives? ''Because he thinks he loves her.'' Terror, disgust and disbelief leave Jessica scrambling for words and trying desperately to make sense of it all.
-->'''Kilgrave:''' Jessica. You're not surprised to see me. You had to know I'd come for you. Not this fast? I... I will admit to keeping eyes on you. Spies are easy to come by, for me.
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' Do whatever you're going to do to me, but let them go.
-->'''Kilgrave:''' Well, I have to protect myself, so...
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' Then control me, not them.
-->'''Kilgrave:''' I have absolutely no intention of controlling you. I want you to act on your own accord.
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' Act how? Suicide? Is that why you've been torturing me?
-->'''Kilgrave:''' Oh, my God. Jessica, I knew you were insecure. That's just sad. I'm not torturing you. Why would I? I love you.
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' You have been ruining... my life.
-->'''Kilgrave:''' You didn't have a life.
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' As a demented declaration of love?
-->'''Kilgrave:''' No, obviously. I... I was trying... to show you what I see. That I'm the only one who matches you. Who challenges you. Who'll do anything for you.
-->'''Jessica Jones:''' This is a sick joke. You have killed innocent people.
-->'''Kilgrave:''' Oh, well, that... that milquetoast little man-boy? He interrupted me while I was leaving you a present, which, apparently, you didn't even find. Come on! You cannot pretend he didn't irritate you, too. I wanted to slap him after 30 seconds. I know. I realize this will take time. But I'm gonna prove it to you.
**For once, we see Kilgrave lose his superficial charm and come off as sincerely angry when a phone rings.
-->'''Kilgrave:''' Whose is that? ''[cell phone continues to ring as Kilgrave stalks around the room, looking for the phone]'' Whose phone is that?! ''[Kilgrave approaches Clemons, the source of the ringing. Upon getting a silent confirmation that yes, this is his phone, Kilgrave takes Clemons' phone and throws it at a wall, shattering it into pieces]'' THE NEXT PERSON WHOSE PHONE RINGS '''''HAS TO EAT IT!!''''' Crappy fluorescent lights and cockroaches and loud cell phones and the smell of piss! I am trying to profess eternal ''love'' here, people!
** And he never rescinds that order. Hope no one's phone rang in the next twelve hours or so- [[OhCrap oh shit, it's a police precinct.]] Someone's phone probably will ring within ten seconds of Kilgrave's departure. Then again, his last command was for every one to assume this was all a joke, possibly rendering the command nullified.
** Among the cops that Kilgrave controls is Brett Mahoney. This allows you to see how Kilgrave's behavior works on someone we're already familiar with: it's the Brett Mahoney who grew up with Foggy Nelson and who put the handcuffs on Wilson Fisk, yet he behaves so differently under Kilgrave's control that he might as well be someone else. Most people would react like Clemons does when Brett points a gun at him.
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** Worse is the fact that this fate was actually considered at one point for Elena Cardenas over in ''Series/{{Daredevil}}''.

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* There's also the fact that, if someone is prevented from carrying out his orders, they will go insane and do everything in their power to go back to what he told them to do. In the very first episode, Jessica finds Hope lying in a bed in a pool of her own urine because Kilgrave told her to stay put, and when Jessica tries to drag her out the apartment, Hope screams and fights her with all her strength in order to get back in the bed. And then there's Trish grabbing a bullet off the ground and trying to shove it into her skull because Kilgrave told her to put a bullet in her head and her gun was depleted.

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* There's also the fact that, if someone is prevented from carrying out his orders, they will go insane and do everything in their power to go back to what he told them to do. In the very first episode, Jessica finds Hope lying in a bed in a pool of her own urine because Kilgrave told her to stay put, right there, and when Jessica tries to drag her out the apartment, Hope screams and fights her with all her strength in order to get back in the bed. And then there's Trish grabbing a bullet off the ground and trying to shove it into in her skull because Kilgrave told her to put a bullet in her head and her gun was depleted.
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* There's also the fact that, if someone is prevented from carrying out his orders, they will go insane and do everything in their power to go back to what he told them to do, such as Trish grabbing a bullet off the ground and trying to shove it into her skull because Kilgrave told her to put a bullet in her head and her gun was depleted.

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* There's also the fact that, if someone is prevented from carrying out his orders, they will go insane and do everything in their power to go back to what he told them to do, such as do. In the very first episode, Jessica finds Hope lying in a bed in a pool of her own urine because Kilgrave told her to stay put, and when Jessica tries to drag her out the apartment, Hope screams and fights her with all her strength in order to get back in the bed. And then there's Trish grabbing a bullet off the ground and trying to shove it into her skull because Kilgrave told her to put a bullet in her head and her gun was depleted.depleted.



** On the point about his pettiness, imagine that if you say something that slightly annoys the wrong person, they can make you just stand there. Forever. And as far as you know at the time, it very well could be *forever*. All for the crime of being slightly annoying to him. And unlike other forms of this kind of abuse of power (annoying a cop leading to you being arrested on a minor charge or whatever), it requires almost *no effort* for him to do it.
** There's also the fact that he never says "You may use the bathroom if necessary." People frequently have accidents on themselves while under his control; the fact that he never prevents it means he either cares that little for his victims, or he enjoys degrading people in such a base manner. Neither would be out of character.

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** On the point about his pettiness, imagine that if you say something that slightly annoys the wrong person, they can make you just stand there. Forever. And as far as you know at the time, it very well could be *forever*.''forever''. All for the crime of being slightly annoying to him. And unlike other forms of this kind of abuse of power (annoying a cop leading to you being arrested on a minor charge or whatever), it requires almost *no effort* for him to do it.
** There's also the fact that he never says "You may use the bathroom if necessary." People frequently It's shown numerous times that people often have accidents on themselves while under his control; the fact that he never prevents it means he either cares that little for his victims, or he enjoys gets off on degrading people in such a base manner. Neither would be out of character.

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* And let's put a cherry on that sundae: Kilgrave uses Jessica's neighbor as a suicide bomber as payback to Simpson for his previous attempt at getting to him, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard literally returning him his own bomb]]. We ''really'' didn't need to see the woman literally blown to bits on camera with her mangled, bloody limbs lying around.

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* And let's put a cherry on that sundae: Kilgrave uses Jessica's neighbor as a suicide bomber as payback to Simpson for his previous attempt at getting to him, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard literally returning him his own bomb]]. We ''really'' didn't need to see the woman literally blown to bits on camera with her mangled, bloody limbs lying around.For '''anyone''' who has experienced a terrorist attack in RealLife, this scene comes as realistically scary.



* Jeri almost getting a death of a thousand cuts from her wife. Even as unlikable as she's gotten by this point, it's pretty hard to watch. As badly as Jeri was hurt, as much as she screamed, Wendy never even made it past 30 cuts. What we saw was less than a thirtieth of the damage that could have been done.
** To add a bit of graphic subtext, what Wendy was trying to do to Jeri was an ancient Chinese form of torture and execution. Its literal name was ''Lingchi'' or slow slicing, wherein portions of the body are removed methodically over an extended period of time, eventually resulting in death. It was so nasty that it was only reserved for crimes viewed as especially severe, such as high treason, patricide, or matricide, and was banned in 1905. As his parents were in academia, one imagines Kilgrave knowing that sort of information.

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* Jeri almost getting a death of Kilgrave commanding Wendy that if she wants to make a thousand cuts from to Jeri, let her wife. Even as unlikable as she's gotten by this point, do it. While it's pretty hard not necessary for her to watch. As badly as Jeri was hurt, as much as she screamed, make a thousand cuts (Kilgrave gave Wendy never even made it past 30 cuts. What we saw was less than a thirtieth of the damage that could have been done.
** To add a bit of graphic subtext, what Wendy was trying to do to Jeri was an ancient Chinese form of torture and execution. Its literal name was ''Lingchi'' or slow slicing, wherein portions of the body are removed methodically over an extended period of time, eventually resulting in death. It was so nasty that it was only reserved for crimes viewed as especially severe, such as high treason, patricide, or matricide, and was banned in 1905. As his parents were in academia, one imagines Kilgrave knowing that sort of information.
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** "From your perspective, I'd be raping her every day. My skin will be touching hers.
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** It's also profoundly disturbing to see Kilgrave's glee when he's finally convinced that Jessica is under his control again, frantically assuring her that he ''knows'' that she'll grow to love him. He genuinely believes that he's not doing anything wrong, and it's terrifying.

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* '''[[BigBad Kilgrave]]''' is quite literally the living embodiment of NightmareFuel. A man with the power to make you do ''anything'' he tells you to (not just what his actual words literally mean but everything he implies by them as well, see "[[DeadlyEuphemism Take care of her]]"). To give him all your money. To have sex with him. To love him and believe you do. To abandon your own children. To kill your loved ones. [[PsychicAssistedSuicide To even kill yourself on command]]. All that's in the hands of a total and complete sociopath who sees other humans as nothing more than playthings, not even people but toys. He sees no difference between people doing something under his command and doing the same thing by their own will; to him, sex with a woman who he's ordered to have sex with him is not rape, and if someone commits murder by his command, it's their doing and not his. That's Kilgrave and thus it's no wonder Jessica is so terrified of him that when she realizes he's back her gut reaction after fighting an outright PTSD flashback/panic attack, is to try to hightail it out of New York. (Fortunately she changes her mind though.) He is ''by far'' the '''most''' horrific BigBad in the entire MCU.

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* '''[[BigBad Kilgrave]]''' is quite literally the living embodiment of NightmareFuel. A man with the power to make you do ''anything'' he tells you to (not just what his actual words literally mean but everything he implies by them as well, see "[[DeadlyEuphemism Take care of her]]"). To give him all your money. To have sex with him. To love him and believe you do. To abandon your own children. To kill your loved ones. [[PsychicAssistedSuicide To even kill yourself on command]]. All that's in the hands of a total and complete sociopath who sees other humans as nothing more than playthings, not even people but toys. He sees no difference between people doing something under his command and doing the same thing by their own will; to him, sex with a woman who he's ordered to have sex with him is not rape, and if someone commits murder by his command, it's their doing and not his. That's Kilgrave and thus it's no wonder Jessica is so terrified of him that when she realizes he's back her gut reaction after fighting an outright PTSD flashback/panic attack, is to try to hightail it out of New York. (Fortunately she changes her mind though.) He is ''by far'' one of the '''most''' horrific BigBad villains in the entire MCU.
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* [[BigBad Kilgrave]] is quite literally the living embodiment of NightmareFuel. A man with the power to make you do ''anything'' he tells you to (not just what his actual words literally mean but everything he implies by them as well, see "[[DeadlyEuphemism Take care of her]]"). To give him all your money. To have sex with him. To love him and believe you do. To abandon your own children. To kill your loved ones. [[PsychicAssistedSuicide To even kill yourself on command]]. All that's in the hands of a total and complete sociopath who sees other humans as nothing more than playthings, not even people but toys. He sees no difference between people doing something under his command and doing the same thing by their own will; to him, sex with a woman who he's ordered to have sex with him is not rape, and if someone commits murder by his command, it's their doing and not his. That's Kilgrave and thus it's no wonder Jessica is so terrified of him that when she realizes he's back her gut reaction after fighting an outright PTSD flashback/panic attack, is to try to hightail it out of New York. (Fortunately she changes her mind though.) He is ''by far'' the most disturbing villain in the entire MCU.

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* [[BigBad Kilgrave]] '''[[BigBad Kilgrave]]''' is quite literally the living embodiment of NightmareFuel. A man with the power to make you do ''anything'' he tells you to (not just what his actual words literally mean but everything he implies by them as well, see "[[DeadlyEuphemism Take care of her]]"). To give him all your money. To have sex with him. To love him and believe you do. To abandon your own children. To kill your loved ones. [[PsychicAssistedSuicide To even kill yourself on command]]. All that's in the hands of a total and complete sociopath who sees other humans as nothing more than playthings, not even people but toys. He sees no difference between people doing something under his command and doing the same thing by their own will; to him, sex with a woman who he's ordered to have sex with him is not rape, and if someone commits murder by his command, it's their doing and not his. That's Kilgrave and thus it's no wonder Jessica is so terrified of him that when she realizes he's back her gut reaction after fighting an outright PTSD flashback/panic attack, is to try to hightail it out of New York. (Fortunately she changes her mind though.) He is ''by far'' the most disturbing villain '''most''' horrific BigBad in the entire MCU.

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