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** Hector confides to Eliwood in their B-Support that he had a bad dream about Eliwood's son being romantically involved with Hector's daughter and asks Eliwood to make sure that doesn't happen, alluding to Roy and Lilina's relationship in ''The Binding Blade''. Fans took this as Hector being a ''very'' BoyfriendBlockingDad in the future who will do many not-nice things to anyone trying to court Lilina, especially Roy. The thing is, this all took place ''years'' before Roy and Lilina were even born, and when we see Hector ([[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome briefly]]) in ''The Binding Blade'', his last request is for Roy to take care of Lilina, showing that he's mellowed out after getting to know Roy for real as [[NiceGuy an upstanding young man]] [[LikeFatherLikeSon like his father.]] And while some interaction ''does'' shows up in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemHeroes'', Roy's romance (or not) with Lilina is only slightly hinted and although Hector knows, he doesn't mind.
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* The series itself is pretty well known for having lots of BrotherSisterIncest (And [[FlirtyStepsiblings other]] [[KissingCousins kinds]] of incest). There's a legitimate point to this, given that the Jugdral Chronology has ''lots'' of incest (one pairing as a major plot point, a few more strongly implied, and multiple incestuous pairings that players can set up themselves), but ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy of the Holy War]]'' is the only one where it has a bearing on the main plot.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade'':
** Erk is most definitely annoyed by Serra and isn't shy about telling her so. In his B support with Priscilla, he makes a few comments on the stress of having been Serra's escort. Fanon took this to mean he genuinely hates Serra's guts and will loudly bash her to anyone within earshot.
** Legault's flirtations with Heath in their supports result in a lot of fangirls forgetting the other, more plot-driven aspects of his character. Also, Heath is ''not'' the only person Legault flirts with, either.
** MysteriousWaif Ninian has only broken down in tears ''twice'' through the story, and each time ''for very good reasons'', yet fans treat her as if she cried every single time she opened her mouth, and use it to bash her for [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses being "weak"]] or standing in between Eliwood and [[ActionGirl Lyn]] (who has ''also'' cried in canon). It took her appearance in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemHeroes'' to shake off some of her stigma.
** Eliwood's declaration that he has no love for war led to at least half the fandom either bashing him as a "pansy-ass pussy" or painting him as a NervousWreck who flails/cries/goes into cardiac arrest at the sight of blood.
** Hector confides to Eliwood in their B-Support that he had a bad dream about Eliwood's son being romantically involved with Hector's daughter and asks Eliwood to make sure that doesn't happen, alluding to Roy and Lilina's relationship in ''The Binding Blade''. Fans took this as Hector being a ''very'' BoyfriendBlockingDad in the future who will do many not-nice things to anyone trying to court Lilina, especially Roy. The thing is, this all took place ''years'' before Roy and Lilina were even born, and when we see Hector ([[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome briefly]]) in ''The Binding Blade'', his last request is for Roy to take care of Lilina, showing that he's mellowed out after getting to know Roy for real as [[NiceGuy an upstanding young man]] [[LikeFatherLikeSon like his father.]] And while some interaction ''does'' shows up in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemHeroes'', Roy's romance (or not) with Lilina is only slightly hinted and although Hector knows, he doesn't mind.
** ChivalrousPervert Sain says "oh, beauteous one" exactly ''one time'' within the course of the game, but some parts of the fandom treat it like his CatchPhrase.
** Lucius has been mistaken for a woman exactly ''once'' ([[ViewerGenderConfusion in-universe at least]]), even though his feminine looks are commented on by several characters.
** Most fans remember Priscilla for is either her crush on her brother Raymond or her "endless stream of unhappy endings with men". Some have even speculated that she's meant to be "the Literature/MadameBovary of Elibe", completely ignoring that her solo ending ''is'' happy on its own, and that she and Erk can be genuinely happy together. Not all her male supports are romantic, either (Oswin and Lucius, anyone?).
* In the Jugdral Chronology, the protagonist of the first part, Sigurd, does quite a bit in the first half. At the same time, it's unlikely he'll ever shake [[spoiler:the fire jokes]], due to [[spoiler:his final fate]] [[ItWasHisSled being one of the most well-known aspects of the game]].
* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'':
** Eirika will never live down giving the Sacred Stone of Renais to the Demon King-possessed Lyon, allowing him to destroy it. Most of why she's such a BaseBreakingCharacter comes from ''that scene alone''. It doesn't help that she got called "gullible and naive" in one of her DLC cameos in ''Awakening''.
** Innes tells Eirika he'll prove himself worthy of her love in their A level support. Fanfics pairing Eirika with someone else turn him into a competitive JerkAss who sees her as nothing more than a prize to be won. And fans who support Innes as Eirika's favored suitor use Seth's A support with Eirika (in which he first tries to distance himself from her, but later confesses his own love) to accuse Seth of being sexist, creepy, and possessive of her. The DoubleStandard [[DieForOurShip is obvious.]]
* Ike from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn Radiant Dawn]]'' is known solely for his line in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'': "I fight for my friends!" Not so much the line itself, but for the less than stellar voice acting.
* Ever since a certain base conversation in ''Radiant Dawn'', you'd think all Soren ''ever'' did was cry in Ike's arms.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'':
** Cordelia has plenty more reasons than "boo hoo why won't Chrom love me" to be sad, but to some fans she's nothing more than said love. Quite a few of her support conversations ''do'' mention Chrom, including some of her S supports, but she still has a few that bring up her other issues.
** There's actually [[GoodShepherd a lot]] [[DarkAndTroubledPast more]] to Libra's character than DudeLooksLikeALady and StupidSexyFlanders, but since those two are the subject of his recruitment conversation and a support with Virion shown before the game was released, those are all fans tend to remember.
** In regards to ''all'' the Children Characters, the fandom ''loves'' to focus only on [[DarkAndTroubledPast their traumas and experiences]] in the BadFuture, therefore reducing them solely to their [[TheWoobie woobie traits]], ignoring their surprisingly complex personalities.
** Inigo will never live down saying "I want to be manhandled!" [[HoYay to Gerome]] in their supports. The line actually has a very different meaning in-context: he's jealous of [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys all the attention Gerome gets from girls]] and wishes the ladies would fawn over ''him'' that way.
** Because of her {{Stripperific}} clothing and childish demeanor, Nowi is forever "dragon loli", with fans completely ignoring her backstory and personality and the actual depth of her character beyond her appearance.
** Some fans judge Henry entirely by the localization changes to his supports with Olivia, ignoring the other aspects of his character that aren't all that different from the original Japanese version.
** Hearing what fans say about Olivia would make you believe she only exists to "heal Henry's broken heart" or "be the girl who has a sudden FourthDateMarriage with Chrom if you hook them up". Never mind that Olivia can marry guys other than Henry and Chrom.
** Sadly, this is actually ''canon'' for Yarne, who has a reputation as the scared little bunny boy who runs away all the time. Which, granted, he does, but he has [[LastOfHisKind reasons for doing so]].
** Frederick's naked poster of Chrom. It ''is'' a hilarious moment and the HoYay ''is'' there, but that alone set off many a fangirl proclaiming his ultimate gayness for Chrom and ignoring the other aspects of his character. There's another subset of the fandom that find his S Support with Cordelia to be uncomfortable due to its shades of EntitledToHaveYou, and to them Frederick is only remembered as "that guy with the worst S Support in the game." Ignoring all of his other hundred plus supports.
** Lucina makes one comment about joining Chrom in the mixed baths and has one (admittedly poorly-handled) support set where she shrieks at the female Avatar (if she's not her mother) for [[MistakenForCheating supposedly flirting with Chrom.]] This gets her branded as [[IncestSubtext being in love with her own father]] by a good chunk of the fandom.
** To some sects of the fandom, the Female Avatar is defined by her awkward BelligerentSexualTension supports with Chrom, even though she can marry other guys (and can marry Chrom without going through these supports [[GuideDangIt if you know how his auto-marriage works]] ''and'' actually apologizes to Chrom in their A-Support), and the Male Avatar is defined by the fact he can romance his best friend's daughter and sister. (Albeit the former is LessDisturbingInContext due to TimeTravelRomance.)
** Fandom seems to believe that Nah is nothing but a bitchy TinyTyrannicalGirl who forces all her eventual boyfriends into marriage via threatening them to eat them alive. The only support chain where she does so is Inigo's; in the others she is ''at most'' kinda bossy, but never to such a degree. (She's pretty gentle to male Morgan and Yarne, her bossy tendencies are PlayedForLaughs with Laurent, her bugging Gerome is treated as playful rather than mean-spirited.)
** Tharja seems to be almost entirely known, both in the game's fandom and out, as the Avatar's StalkerWithACrush. Many of these portrayals seem removed from the context that she's normally a gloomy, anti-social loner, and the doting {{Yandere}} she acts like whenever the subject of the Avatar comes up is meant to be seen as out-of-character for her. It's to the point that even some of her detractors seem to forget her other questionable character traits, like using her family as guinea pigs for dark magic to the point of turning Noire into a NervousWreck. Unfortunately, even many of her ''official'' appearances in later ''Fire Emblem'' games ignore most of her character and fixate on the way she acts toward the Avatar.
** Chrom is mentioned as having ''maybe'' eaten an unpeeled orange ''once'' in Gaius and Olivia’s B support. Ask fans, and you’d not only think that’s all he ever eats, but also that he canonically doesn’t know how oranges are actually meant to be eaten.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'':
** Soleil is bisexual but largely prefers women; however, she can only S support with men (all the boys in the Japanese version, Forrest and the male Avatar in English). While it's a valid reason for fans to be disappointed, a lot of them are screaming about how homophobic the game is after reading her poorly-written support chain with a male Avatar. All while conveniently ignoring the fact that the kids aren't as tied to the marriage mechanic as their parents, and it's just as easy to leave Soleil unpaired and at A support with another girl. Many have outright ''boycotted'' the game over this.
** Once the above controversy wore off, fans started to see Soleil as a "predatory lesbian stereotype" due to her constant flirting and C-B rank supports with Ophelia. Admittedly, some of her support chains don't handle her flirting well, but some have even gone so far as to say she should be kept away from women, never mind that she ''does'' apologize to Ophelia and has more traits to her than simply chasing girls.
** Oboro's initial character description was two things: her hatred for Nohr and her feelings for Takumi, the prince she serves. More aspects of her personality were revealed over time (i.e her TeamMom tendences, her love of fashion in general, etc.), as well as the translation of her supports that explain her hatred of Nohr and [[spoiler:have her working on it by supporting and potentially marrying two Nohrian guys in the ''Birthright'' path, and fully overcoming it via supporting with other two Nohrian guys and a Nohrian woman more in ''Revelation'']], but some only remember those initial traits. Also, her feelings for Takumi aren't mentioned often outside of her supports with Takumi himself (obviously) and Hinata (Takumi's other retainer who already knows about her crush).
** Azura is the [[MrExposition Miss Exposition]] of ''Fates'', so she explains a lot of plot points over the course of the game. This includes two of the game's more controversial ones (namely [[spoiler:the throne of Hoshido being required to expose the fake Garon's true form, resulting in Hoshido's invasion during Conquest]] and [[spoiler:the curse of Valla preventing anyone from mentioning it by name]]), and this colored the fandom's opinion of her quite badly, with some even ''blaming'' her for those contrived plot points.
** The introduction of the child mechanic was somewhat rushed, and the explanation for the children is clumsily handled and contrived, but the child characters themselves are fleshed out and well-developed. Unfortunately, this isn't enough to stop a lot of the fandom from bashing them and defining them by the clumsy mechanic rather than as characters, or from turning on the parent characters and denouncing them as abusive and neglectful. The fact that this is addressed in-game doesn't mitigate the fans' anger.
** [[HotBlooded Ryoma]], [[SugarAndIcePersonality Leo]], and [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Jakob]] are especially big targets of this: Ryoma for having hit his son Shiro in the Japanese version of the game/yelling at him in English (plus hiding the fact that he's royalty), Leo for chewing out his son Forrest for his WholesomeCrossdresser ways, and Jakob for being competitive with his son Dwyer and calling him out on his laziness. Fans who bash the fathers for these instances conveniently ignore the fact that Shiro ''does'' point out that Ryoma made a mistake and that Ryoma tries harder to be a good dad, Leo ''apologizes'' to Forrest and spends their entire support chain trying to be supportive and encouraging while still firm, and that not only does Jakob care for his son, but that Dwyer himself ''is'' lazy and surly and responds to Jakob just as competitively.
** Takumi is a BaseBreakingCharacter, and his detractors treat him as though all he did was yell at and hate the Avatar before going BrainwashedAndCrazy in ''Conquest''. Some also find it hard to forgive his shooting of Elise [[DisproportionateRetribution for speaking up for Corrin]] in Cheve. (Never mind that he was, as before, not himself at the time[[labelnote:Explanation(Spoilers)]]Players may notice that unlike in the previous battle, where the Hoshido royal boss theme plays while fighting him, "Puppet's Feast," the Vallite boss theme plays while fighting him in Cheve, indicating he has been possessed by Anankos[[/labelnote]].)
** Even though [[SignificantAnagram Rhajat]]'s [[StalkerWithACrush Tharja-esque traits]] were ''somewhat'' amped up in the localization, she still has far more to her character than that. Her detractors, however, stubbornly ignore this fact in order to keep bashing her, "forgetting" that her non-Avatar supports give her several PetTheDog moments and a genuine desire to make more friends.
** Leo's feelings for Camilla, among some sectors of the fandom. Due to ''[[AllThereInTheManual The Making of Fire Emblem]]'' stating that his behavior towards Camilla in their support indicates a past crush on her, some fans believe he never got over it and that it defines him and his relationships with the women he can marry. This despite the fact that these feelings are never mentioned in the present, and Leo is completely capable of falling in love with women despite not being completely flawless around them.
** Kiragi is a sweet and helpful {{keet}} who shows some CuteAndPsycho traits ''in a DLC stage (that was also never released outside Japan)'', and only around a few of his possible mothers (Rinkah, Camilla and Azura). Naturally, the fandom has made him a full-blown CreepyChild who does nothing but cackle psychotically.
*** Much like Sigurd, Flora will also never escape the [[spoiler:fire jokes]], due to the scene in ''Birthright'' where she [[spoiler:kills herself via self-immolation]].
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden'':
** Conrad from the remake has gotten several nasty posts aimed at him on Website/{{tumblr}}, accusing him of being a "woman beater" due to ''one scene'' in which he delivers a GetAholdOfYourselfMan on Celica. Never mind that Boey calls him out on it, Conrad feels bad afterwards, and he ''never does it again''.
** Rinea from the same game is remembered for one of two things: either being Berkut's [[WetBlanketWife wet blanket fiancée]] who constantly calls out his violent streak, or the constant memes surrounding [[spoiler:her death scene, which involves her getting set on fire]], just like [[RunningGag Sigurd and Flora]] before her.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses''
** The game brings us yet another immolation victim in the form of [[spoiler:Bernadetta]], who is burned to death at Gronder Field on some routes. At this point, if any ''Fire Emblem'' character is set on fire, that'll be what they're remembered for. It's worth noting that [[spoiler:Bernadetta]] doesn't actually seem to take damage from the fire, so it's unclear as to whether [[spoiler:Edelgard was really willing to sacrifice her classmate.]] In fact, the fire being called down onto the ballista will only happen if [[spoiler:Petra or the Empire General who replaces her]] is defeated, and it's most likely that players will have defeated [[spoiler:Bernadetta or the Empire General who replaces her]] first.
** Leonie and Cyril have a lot of traits that make them unique and have some well-developed supports with other characters. Unfortunately, because of Leonie's admittedly disliked support with Byleth and Cyril's aloof personality, they've been exaggerated by the fans to be utterly obsessed with Jeralt and Rhea respectively, basically ignoring any other traits or supports they have. Making things worse in Leonie's case is that her A-support with Byleth gives a JerkassRealization and a genuine apology, but true to this trope, [[AccentuateTheNegative the fandom doesn't really acknowledge it]] because of how bad her first impression was to many (fans of hers argue that her B-support being locked until after [[spoiler:Jeralt's death]] was the writers ''really'' screwing her over). Cyril has it even worse, considering his relative popularity compared to Leonie as he lacks the same amount of focus Leonie gets until late enough where people will have no reason to use him. In his case, it doesn't help that players who choose the Black Eagles will have less opportunity to see his better traits, as depending on your choice in Chapter 11 he's either [[spoiler: unrecruitable and an enemy who will stand with Rhea even at her worst]] or [[spoiler: joins with no fanfare in Chapter 12, giving the player little opportunity to use or build supports with him.]]
** Similarly, Dedue gets a lot of flak due to supposedly being obsessed with Dimitri, to the point where some fics try to "fix" him by heavily downplaying his relationship with Dimitri or separating them altogether. To be fair, he does have a couple support conversations and several monastery dialogues that focus on Dimitri... However, he also has several support chains that either barely mention Dimitri(e.g. his supports with Mercedes mainly focus on Duscur culture) or ''don't mention him at all''(e.g. his supports with Annette), and his S-support with a female Byleth has him outright leave Dimitri's service to focus on his marriage to her. It's also made clear that the reason Dedue is so loyal to Dimitri in the first place is because he was one of the few people who [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe treated him kindly despite his Duscur heritage]].
** Leonie also gets a lot of flak for her C support with Marianne, in which she responds to Marianne's gloomy and self-deprecating behavior with a backhanded apology and a refusal to spend any more time with Marianne. While this was hardly Leonie's best moment, she does apologize to Marianne in her next support, and generally isn't this abrasive with her classmates.
** Some people can't get over Alois and Gilbert due to how their S-support ranks are [[BaitAndSwitchLesbians misleading]] and blaming them for the game's dual-male options. Even though they are well-rounded characters and their supports with Byleth still are sweet even if they aren't romantic, since they offer Byleth their UndyingLoyalty regardless of gender, they still get harsh treatment from some fans.
** Rhea's infamous lap pillow scene with Byleth at the end of Chapter 10, in which she [[spoiler:cradles Byleth's head in her lap as the latter regains consciousness after the battle, in which Byleth's consciousness merged with Sothis]] due to its framing, atmosphere, execution, and creepy implications, has had many fans painting her as a MemeticMolester, also not helped by the fact that [[spoiler:romancing her is also possibly romancing your grandma who is also your daughter.]]
** Ingrid gets a lot of criticism for her xenophobia towards the people of Duscur, despite the fact that it only comes up in-game during her supports with Dedue, plus one monastery conversation, both of which are exclusive to Azure Moon (as that monastery conversation is replaced in the other routes by her praising the bountiful resources of Garreg Mach) — meaning that if you play any other route first and recruit her, it's still possible to miss it entirely. Additionally, those same supports see her coming to regret her hostility towards him and apologizing to Dedue for her behavior. It's made clear that Ingrid never had all of the information regarding the Tragedy of Duscur, she was younger and more impressionable when it happened, and it's only because her fiancé Glenn Fraldarius died in the Tragedy that she's facing constant pressure from her father to accept an arranged marriage that will support the Galatea family financially — but none of this matters to the fans who write her off derisively as a xenophobe. Ironically, [[OlderThanTheyThink this wasn't the first time that Intelligent Systems wrote a character that dealt with being a bigot]]; they previously did it with [[VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance Jill]], and she got over it enough to become a fan favorite, but she never (or at least just rarely) had a NeverLiveItDown phenomenon, unlike Ingrid.
** Sylvain’s [[ChivalrousPervert playboy antics]]. While it’s not particularly difficult to view him as a shallow philanderer due to the fact that it’s his most prominent character trait, he’s also another character that falls in line with there being more to him than that meets the eye. Looking deeper into his supports and his actions over the course of the game would reveal that [[spoiler:his laid-back behavior is merely a front he puts on to mask his insecurities and to keep others from having high expectations of him. Not only is he shown to be [[HiddenDepths one of the most intelligent and reflective characters]] in the story,]] he is also far more dark than he initially lets on.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemEngage'':
** At the start of the game, Alear, a Divine Dragon who has awakened from a 1,000-year slumber, is heading to Lythos Castle with their stewards Vander, Clanne and Framme, when some undead foes called the Corrupted appear, resulting in Alear ordering her party to flee until Clanne and Framme's attacking the Corrupted forces Alear to fight. This, along with Alear's fear of the Corrupted, resulted in some players bashing Alear as a coward, despite the fact that Alear rarely displays any sort of cowardly behavior. In fact, not only was there no good reason to engage with the Corrupted in that situation, but there were so many that only Lumera's arrival saved Alear and their companions.
** The game itself suffers from this when it comes to some of the supports, since many of the ones involving the Lythos and Firene cast are relatively one-note and uninteresting. The supports get more interesting once the cast of the other nations join, but unfortunately, that's also when the player starts having more units than they have deployment slots, and getting units that tend to outdo early game units (e.g. Alcryst compared to Etie), making it harder to see many of the supports.
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* The series itself is pretty well known for having lots of BrotherSisterIncest (And [[FlirtyStepsiblings other]] [[KissingCousins kinds]] of incest). There's a legitimate point to this, given that the Jugdral Chronology has ''lots'' of incest (one pairing as a major plot point, a few more strongly implied, and multiple incestuous pairings that players can set up themselves), but ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy of the Holy War]]'' is the only one where it has a bearing on the main plot.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade'':
** Erk is most definitely annoyed by Serra and isn't shy about telling her so. In his B support with Priscilla, he makes a few comments on the stress of having been Serra's escort. Fanon took this to mean he genuinely hates Serra's guts and will loudly bash her to anyone within earshot.
** Legault's flirtations with Heath in their supports result in a lot of fangirls forgetting the other, more plot-driven aspects of his character. Also, Heath is ''not'' the only person Legault flirts with, either.
** MysteriousWaif Ninian has only broken down in tears ''twice'' through the story, and each time ''for very good reasons'', yet fans treat her as if she cried every single time she opened her mouth, and use it to bash her for [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses being "weak"]] or standing in between Eliwood and [[ActionGirl Lyn]] (who has ''also'' cried in canon). It took her appearance in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemHeroes'' to shake off some of her stigma.
** Eliwood's declaration that he has no love for war led to at least half the fandom either bashing him as a "pansy-ass pussy" or painting him as a NervousWreck who flails/cries/goes into cardiac arrest at the sight of blood.
** Hector confides to Eliwood in their B-Support that he had a bad dream about Eliwood's son being romantically involved with Hector's daughter and asks Eliwood to make sure that doesn't happen, alluding to Roy and Lilina's relationship in ''The Binding Blade''. Fans took this as Hector being a ''very'' BoyfriendBlockingDad in the future who will do many not-nice things to anyone trying to court Lilina, especially Roy. The thing is, this all took place ''years'' before Roy and Lilina were even born, and when we see Hector ([[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome briefly]]) in ''The Binding Blade'', his last request is for Roy to take care of Lilina, showing that he's mellowed out after getting to know Roy for real as [[NiceGuy an upstanding young man]] [[LikeFatherLikeSon like his father.]] And while some interaction ''does'' shows up in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemHeroes'', Roy's romance (or not) with Lilina is only slightly hinted and although Hector knows, he doesn't mind.
** ChivalrousPervert Sain says "oh, beauteous one" exactly ''one time'' within the course of the game, but some parts of the fandom treat it like his CatchPhrase.
** Lucius has been mistaken for a woman exactly ''once'' ([[ViewerGenderConfusion in-universe at least]]), even though his feminine looks are commented on by several characters.
** Most fans remember Priscilla for is either her crush on her brother Raymond or her "endless stream of unhappy endings with men". Some have even speculated that she's meant to be "the Literature/MadameBovary of Elibe", completely ignoring that her solo ending ''is'' happy on its own, and that she and Erk can be genuinely happy together. Not all her male supports are romantic, either (Oswin and Lucius, anyone?).
* In the Jugdral Chronology, the protagonist of the first part, Sigurd, does quite a bit in the first half. At the same time, it's unlikely he'll ever shake [[spoiler:the fire jokes]], due to [[spoiler:his final fate]] [[ItWasHisSled being one of the most well-known aspects of the game]].
* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'':
** Eirika will never live down giving the Sacred Stone of Renais to the Demon King-possessed Lyon, allowing him to destroy it. Most of why she's such a BaseBreakingCharacter comes from ''that scene alone''. It doesn't help that she got called "gullible and naive" in one of her DLC cameos in ''Awakening''.
** Innes tells Eirika he'll prove himself worthy of her love in their A level support. Fanfics pairing Eirika with someone else turn him into a competitive JerkAss who sees her as nothing more than a prize to be won. And fans who support Innes as Eirika's favored suitor use Seth's A support with Eirika (in which he first tries to distance himself from her, but later confesses his own love) to accuse Seth of being sexist, creepy, and possessive of her. The DoubleStandard [[DieForOurShip is obvious.]]
* Ike from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn Radiant Dawn]]'' is known solely for his line in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'': "I fight for my friends!" Not so much the line itself, but for the less than stellar voice acting.
* Ever since a certain base conversation in ''Radiant Dawn'', you'd think all Soren ''ever'' did was cry in Ike's arms.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'':
** Cordelia has plenty more reasons than "boo hoo why won't Chrom love me" to be sad, but to some fans she's nothing more than said love. Quite a few of her support conversations ''do'' mention Chrom, including some of her S supports, but she still has a few that bring up her other issues.
** There's actually [[GoodShepherd a lot]] [[DarkAndTroubledPast more]] to Libra's character than DudeLooksLikeALady and StupidSexyFlanders, but since those two are the subject of his recruitment conversation and a support with Virion shown before the game was released, those are all fans tend to remember.
** In regards to ''all'' the Children Characters, the fandom ''loves'' to focus only on [[DarkAndTroubledPast their traumas and experiences]] in the BadFuture, therefore reducing them solely to their [[TheWoobie woobie traits]], ignoring their surprisingly complex personalities.
** Inigo will never live down saying "I want to be manhandled!" [[HoYay to Gerome]] in their supports. The line actually has a very different meaning in-context: he's jealous of [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys all the attention Gerome gets from girls]] and wishes the ladies would fawn over ''him'' that way.
** Because of her {{Stripperific}} clothing and childish demeanor, Nowi is forever "dragon loli", with fans completely ignoring her backstory and personality and the actual depth of her character beyond her appearance.
** Some fans judge Henry entirely by the localization changes to his supports with Olivia, ignoring the other aspects of his character that aren't all that different from the original Japanese version.
** Hearing what fans say about Olivia would make you believe she only exists to "heal Henry's broken heart" or "be the girl who has a sudden FourthDateMarriage with Chrom if you hook them up". Never mind that Olivia can marry guys other than Henry and Chrom.
** Sadly, this is actually ''canon'' for Yarne, who has a reputation as the scared little bunny boy who runs away all the time. Which, granted, he does, but he has [[LastOfHisKind reasons for doing so]].
** Frederick's naked poster of Chrom. It ''is'' a hilarious moment and the HoYay ''is'' there, but that alone set off many a fangirl proclaiming his ultimate gayness for Chrom and ignoring the other aspects of his character. There's another subset of the fandom that find his S Support with Cordelia to be uncomfortable due to its shades of EntitledToHaveYou, and to them Frederick is only remembered as "that guy with the worst S Support in the game." Ignoring all of his other hundred plus supports.
** Lucina makes one comment about joining Chrom in the mixed baths and has one (admittedly poorly-handled) support set where she shrieks at the female Avatar (if she's not her mother) for [[MistakenForCheating supposedly flirting with Chrom.]] This gets her branded as [[IncestSubtext being in love with her own father]] by a good chunk of the fandom.
** To some sects of the fandom, the Female Avatar is defined by her awkward BelligerentSexualTension supports with Chrom, even though she can marry other guys (and can marry Chrom without going through these supports [[GuideDangIt if you know how his auto-marriage works]] ''and'' actually apologizes to Chrom in their A-Support), and the Male Avatar is defined by the fact he can romance his best friend's daughter and sister. (Albeit the former is LessDisturbingInContext due to TimeTravelRomance.)
** Fandom seems to believe that Nah is nothing but a bitchy TinyTyrannicalGirl who forces all her eventual boyfriends into marriage via threatening them to eat them alive. The only support chain where she does so is Inigo's; in the others she is ''at most'' kinda bossy, but never to such a degree. (She's pretty gentle to male Morgan and Yarne, her bossy tendencies are PlayedForLaughs with Laurent, her bugging Gerome is treated as playful rather than mean-spirited.)
** Tharja seems to be almost entirely known, both in the game's fandom and out, as the Avatar's StalkerWithACrush. Many of these portrayals seem removed from the context that she's normally a gloomy, anti-social loner, and the doting {{Yandere}} she acts like whenever the subject of the Avatar comes up is meant to be seen as out-of-character for her. It's to the point that even some of her detractors seem to forget her other questionable character traits, like using her family as guinea pigs for dark magic to the point of turning Noire into a NervousWreck. Unfortunately, even many of her ''official'' appearances in later ''Fire Emblem'' games ignore most of her character and fixate on the way she acts toward the Avatar.
** Chrom is mentioned as having ''maybe'' eaten an unpeeled orange ''once'' in Gaius and Olivia’s B support. Ask fans, and you’d not only think that’s all he ever eats, but also that he canonically doesn’t know how oranges are actually meant to be eaten.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'':
** Soleil is bisexual but largely prefers women; however, she can only S support with men (all the boys in the Japanese version, Forrest and the male Avatar in English). While it's a valid reason for fans to be disappointed, a lot of them are screaming about how homophobic the game is after reading her poorly-written support chain with a male Avatar. All while conveniently ignoring the fact that the kids aren't as tied to the marriage mechanic as their parents, and it's just as easy to leave Soleil unpaired and at A support with another girl. Many have outright ''boycotted'' the game over this.
** Once the above controversy wore off, fans started to see Soleil as a "predatory lesbian stereotype" due to her constant flirting and C-B rank supports with Ophelia. Admittedly, some of her support chains don't handle her flirting well, but some have even gone so far as to say she should be kept away from women, never mind that she ''does'' apologize to Ophelia and has more traits to her than simply chasing girls.
** Oboro's initial character description was two things: her hatred for Nohr and her feelings for Takumi, the prince she serves. More aspects of her personality were revealed over time (i.e her TeamMom tendences, her love of fashion in general, etc.), as well as the translation of her supports that explain her hatred of Nohr and [[spoiler:have her working on it by supporting and potentially marrying two Nohrian guys in the ''Birthright'' path, and fully overcoming it via supporting with other two Nohrian guys and a Nohrian woman more in ''Revelation'']], but some only remember those initial traits. Also, her feelings for Takumi aren't mentioned often outside of her supports with Takumi himself (obviously) and Hinata (Takumi's other retainer who already knows about her crush).
** Azura is the [[MrExposition Miss Exposition]] of ''Fates'', so she explains a lot of plot points over the course of the game. This includes two of the game's more controversial ones (namely [[spoiler:the throne of Hoshido being required to expose the fake Garon's true form, resulting in Hoshido's invasion during Conquest]] and [[spoiler:the curse of Valla preventing anyone from mentioning it by name]]), and this colored the fandom's opinion of her quite badly, with some even ''blaming'' her for those contrived plot points.
** The introduction of the child mechanic was somewhat rushed, and the explanation for the children is clumsily handled and contrived, but the child characters themselves are fleshed out and well-developed. Unfortunately, this isn't enough to stop a lot of the fandom from bashing them and defining them by the clumsy mechanic rather than as characters, or from turning on the parent characters and denouncing them as abusive and neglectful. The fact that this is addressed in-game doesn't mitigate the fans' anger.
** [[HotBlooded Ryoma]], [[SugarAndIcePersonality Leo]], and [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Jakob]] are especially big targets of this: Ryoma for having hit his son Shiro in the Japanese version of the game/yelling at him in English (plus hiding the fact that he's royalty), Leo for chewing out his son Forrest for his WholesomeCrossdresser ways, and Jakob for being competitive with his son Dwyer and calling him out on his laziness. Fans who bash the fathers for these instances conveniently ignore the fact that Shiro ''does'' point out that Ryoma made a mistake and that Ryoma tries harder to be a good dad, Leo ''apologizes'' to Forrest and spends their entire support chain trying to be supportive and encouraging while still firm, and that not only does Jakob care for his son, but that Dwyer himself ''is'' lazy and surly and responds to Jakob just as competitively.
** Takumi is a BaseBreakingCharacter, and his detractors treat him as though all he did was yell at and hate the Avatar before going BrainwashedAndCrazy in ''Conquest''. Some also find it hard to forgive his shooting of Elise [[DisproportionateRetribution for speaking up for Corrin]] in Cheve. (Never mind that he was, as before, not himself at the time[[labelnote:Explanation(Spoilers)]]Players may notice that unlike in the previous battle, where the Hoshido royal boss theme plays while fighting him, "Puppet's Feast," the Vallite boss theme plays while fighting him in Cheve, indicating he has been possessed by Anankos[[/labelnote]].)
** Even though [[SignificantAnagram Rhajat]]'s [[StalkerWithACrush Tharja-esque traits]] were ''somewhat'' amped up in the localization, she still has far more to her character than that. Her detractors, however, stubbornly ignore this fact in order to keep bashing her, "forgetting" that her non-Avatar supports give her several PetTheDog moments and a genuine desire to make more friends.
** Leo's feelings for Camilla, among some sectors of the fandom. Due to ''[[AllThereInTheManual The Making of Fire Emblem]]'' stating that his behavior towards Camilla in their support indicates a past crush on her, some fans believe he never got over it and that it defines him and his relationships with the women he can marry. This despite the fact that these feelings are never mentioned in the present, and Leo is completely capable of falling in love with women despite not being completely flawless around them.
** Kiragi is a sweet and helpful {{keet}} who shows some CuteAndPsycho traits ''in a DLC stage (that was also never released outside Japan)'', and only around a few of his possible mothers (Rinkah, Camilla and Azura). Naturally, the fandom has made him a full-blown CreepyChild who does nothing but cackle psychotically.
*** Much like Sigurd, Flora will also never escape the [[spoiler:fire jokes]], due to the scene in ''Birthright'' where she [[spoiler:kills herself via self-immolation]].
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden'':
** Conrad from the remake has gotten several nasty posts aimed at him on Website/{{tumblr}}, accusing him of being a "woman beater" due to ''one scene'' in which he delivers a GetAholdOfYourselfMan on Celica. Never mind that Boey calls him out on it, Conrad feels bad afterwards, and he ''never does it again''.
** Rinea from the same game is remembered for one of two things: either being Berkut's [[WetBlanketWife wet blanket fiancée]] who constantly calls out his violent streak, or the constant memes surrounding [[spoiler:her death scene, which involves her getting set on fire]], just like [[RunningGag Sigurd and Flora]] before her.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses''
** The game brings us yet another immolation victim in the form of [[spoiler:Bernadetta]], who is burned to death at Gronder Field on some routes. At this point, if any ''Fire Emblem'' character is set on fire, that'll be what they're remembered for. It's worth noting that [[spoiler:Bernadetta]] doesn't actually seem to take damage from the fire, so it's unclear as to whether [[spoiler:Edelgard was really willing to sacrifice her classmate.]] In fact, the fire being called down onto the ballista will only happen if [[spoiler:Petra or the Empire General who replaces her]] is defeated, and it's most likely that players will have defeated [[spoiler:Bernadetta or the Empire General who replaces her]] first.
** Leonie and Cyril have a lot of traits that make them unique and have some well-developed supports with other characters. Unfortunately, because of Leonie's admittedly disliked support with Byleth and Cyril's aloof personality, they've been exaggerated by the fans to be utterly obsessed with Jeralt and Rhea respectively, basically ignoring any other traits or supports they have. Making things worse in Leonie's case is that her A-support with Byleth gives a JerkassRealization and a genuine apology, but true to this trope, [[AccentuateTheNegative the fandom doesn't really acknowledge it]] because of how bad her first impression was to many (fans of hers argue that her B-support being locked until after [[spoiler:Jeralt's death]] was the writers ''really'' screwing her over). Cyril has it even worse, considering his relative popularity compared to Leonie as he lacks the same amount of focus Leonie gets until late enough where people will have no reason to use him. In his case, it doesn't help that players who choose the Black Eagles will have less opportunity to see his better traits, as depending on your choice in Chapter 11 he's either [[spoiler: unrecruitable and an enemy who will stand with Rhea even at her worst]] or [[spoiler: joins with no fanfare in Chapter 12, giving the player little opportunity to use or build supports with him.]]
** Similarly, Dedue gets a lot of flak due to supposedly being obsessed with Dimitri, to the point where some fics try to "fix" him by heavily downplaying his relationship with Dimitri or separating them altogether. To be fair, he does have a couple support conversations and several monastery dialogues that focus on Dimitri... However, he also has several support chains that either barely mention Dimitri(e.g. his supports with Mercedes mainly focus on Duscur culture) or ''don't mention him at all''(e.g. his supports with Annette), and his S-support with a female Byleth has him outright leave Dimitri's service to focus on his marriage to her. It's also made clear that the reason Dedue is so loyal to Dimitri in the first place is because he was one of the few people who [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe treated him kindly despite his Duscur heritage]].
** Leonie also gets a lot of flak for her C support with Marianne, in which she responds to Marianne's gloomy and self-deprecating behavior with a backhanded apology and a refusal to spend any more time with Marianne. While this was hardly Leonie's best moment, she does apologize to Marianne in her next support, and generally isn't this abrasive with her classmates.
** Some people can't get over Alois and Gilbert due to how their S-support ranks are [[BaitAndSwitchLesbians misleading]] and blaming them for the game's dual-male options. Even though they are well-rounded characters and their supports with Byleth still are sweet even if they aren't romantic, since they offer Byleth their UndyingLoyalty regardless of gender, they still get harsh treatment from some fans.
** Rhea's infamous lap pillow scene with Byleth at the end of Chapter 10, in which she [[spoiler:cradles Byleth's head in her lap as the latter regains consciousness after the battle, in which Byleth's consciousness merged with Sothis]] due to its framing, atmosphere, execution, and creepy implications, has had many fans painting her as a MemeticMolester, also not helped by the fact that [[spoiler:romancing her is also possibly romancing your grandma who is also your daughter.]]
** Ingrid gets a lot of criticism for her xenophobia towards the people of Duscur, despite the fact that it only comes up in-game during her supports with Dedue, plus one monastery conversation, both of which are exclusive to Azure Moon (as that monastery conversation is replaced in the other routes by her praising the bountiful resources of Garreg Mach) — meaning that if you play any other route first and recruit her, it's still possible to miss it entirely. Additionally, those same supports see her coming to regret her hostility towards him and apologizing to Dedue for her behavior. It's made clear that Ingrid never had all of the information regarding the Tragedy of Duscur, she was younger and more impressionable when it happened, and it's only because her fiancé Glenn Fraldarius died in the Tragedy that she's facing constant pressure from her father to accept an arranged marriage that will support the Galatea family financially — but none of this matters to the fans who write her off derisively as a xenophobe. Ironically, [[OlderThanTheyThink this wasn't the first time that Intelligent Systems wrote a character that dealt with being a bigot]]; they previously did it with [[VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance Jill]], and she got over it enough to become a fan favorite, but she never (or at least just rarely) had a NeverLiveItDown phenomenon, unlike Ingrid.
** Sylvain’s [[ChivalrousPervert playboy antics]]. While it’s not particularly difficult to view him as a shallow philanderer due to the fact that it’s his most prominent character trait, he’s also another character that falls in line with there being more to him than that meets the eye. Looking deeper into his supports and his actions over the course of the game would reveal that [[spoiler:his laid-back behavior is merely a front he puts on to mask his insecurities and to keep others from having high expectations of him. Not only is he shown to be [[HiddenDepths one of the most intelligent and reflective characters]] in the story,]] he is also far more dark than he initially lets on.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemEngage'':
** At the start of the game, Alear, a Divine Dragon who has awakened from a 1,000-year slumber, is heading to Lythos Castle with their stewards Vander, Clanne and Framme, when some undead foes called the Corrupted appear, resulting in Alear ordering her party to flee until Clanne and Framme's attacking the Corrupted forces Alear to fight. This, along with Alear's fear of the Corrupted, resulted in some players bashing Alear as a coward, despite the fact that Alear rarely displays any sort of cowardly behavior. In fact, not only was there no good reason to engage with the Corrupted in that situation, but there were so many that only Lumera's arrival saved Alear and their companions.
** The game itself suffers from this when it comes to some of the supports, since many of the ones involving the Lythos and Firene cast are relatively one-note and uninteresting. The supports get more interesting once the cast of the other nations join, but unfortunately, that's also when the player starts having more units than they have deployment slots, and getting units that tend to outdo early game units (e.g. Alcryst compared to Etie), making it harder to see many of the supports.
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