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* [[BigBad Sheev Palpatine/Darth Sidious]] crosses it in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' when he [[FinalSolution orders the clones to execute Order 66]], [[ThePurge which involved the massacre of the Jedi]] and was the last step in his plan to [[TyrantTakesTheHelm becoming Emperor and thus starting his totalitarian reign of the galaxy]].
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* [[BigBad Sheev Palpatine/Darth Sidious]] crosses it in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' when he [[FinalSolution orders the clones to [[FinalSolution execute Order 66]], [[ThePurge which involved the [[ThePurge massacre of the Jedi]] and was the last step in his plan to [[TyrantTakesTheHelm becoming Emperor and thus starting his totalitarian reign of the galaxy]].
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* In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', Sheev Palpatine/Darth Sidious crosses it when he [[FinalSolution orders the clones to execute Order 66]], [[ThePurge which involved the massacre of the Jedi]] and was the last step in his plan to [[TyrantTakesTheHelm becoming Emperor and thus starting his totalitarian reign of the galaxy]].
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* In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', [[BigBad Sheev Palpatine/Darth Sidious Sidious]] crosses it in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' when he [[FinalSolution orders the clones to execute Order 66]], [[ThePurge which involved the massacre of the Jedi]] and was the last step in his plan to [[TyrantTakesTheHelm becoming Emperor and thus starting his totalitarian reign of the galaxy]].
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* ''Radio/StarWarsRadioDramas'': Grand Moff Tarkin easily crosses this when he orders the destruction of Alderaan, resulting in many innocent people dying. Leia is forced to watch the destruction of her home planet before her very eyes, and (as the page quote illustrates) she even points out that this was the moment that Tarkin lost all humanity he may have had.
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* ''Radio/StarWarsRadioDramas'': Grand Moff Tarkin easily crosses this when he orders the destruction of Alderaan, resulting in many innocent people dying. Leia is forced to watch the destruction of her home planet before her very eyes, and (as the page quote illustrates) she even points out that this was the moment that Tarkin lost all humanity he may have had.
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* In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', Sheev Palpatine/Darth Sidious crosses it when he [[FinalSolution orders the clones to execute Order 66]], [[ThePurge which involved the massacre of the Jedi]] and was one of the last steps step in his plan into to [[TyrantTakesTheHelm becoming Emperor and thus starting his totalitarian reign of the galaxy]].
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* The [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Yuuzhan Vong race]] in the Literature/NewJediOrder series goes about crossing the MEH wantonly. Aside from the killing off of many major characters, some of their things involve going against their word and destroying a planet's ecosystem despite losing a contest for its fate, intentionally attacking/destroying civilian targets in order to burden the New Republic with billions of displaced refugees, spreading a lethal disease among civilians, breeding a toxic animal specially designed to butcher Jedi, and butcher hundreds of Jedi, many young adults and teens, sacrifice millions to their Gods, as well as horribly mutilating and exploiting anyone who joins up with them. By the end of the four-year-long war, the Vong had sadistically and brutally murdered 365 **trillion** people, the bulk of whom were presumably civilians.
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* The [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Yuuzhan Vong race]] in the Literature/NewJediOrder series goes about crossing the MEH wantonly. Aside from the killing off of many major characters, some of their things involve going against their word and destroying a planet's ecosystem despite losing a contest for its fate, intentionally attacking/destroying civilian targets in order to burden the New Republic with billions of displaced refugees, spreading a lethal disease among civilians, breeding a toxic animal specially designed to butcher Jedi, and butcher hundreds of Jedi, many young adults and teens, sacrifice millions to their Gods, as well as horribly mutilating and exploiting anyone who joins up with them. By the end of the four-year-long war, the Vong had sadistically and brutally murdered 365 **trillion** ''trillion'' people, the bulk of whom were presumably civilians.
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* The [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Yuuzhan Vong race]] in the Literature/NewJediOrder series goes about crossing the MEH wantonly. Aside from the killing off of many major characters, some of their things involve going against their word and destroying a planet's ecosystem despite losing a contest for its fate, intentionally attacking/destroying civilian targets in order to burden the New Republic with billions of displaced refugees, spreading a lethal disease among civilians, breeding a toxic animal specially designed to butcher Jedi, and butcher hundreds of Jedi, many young adults and teens, sacrifice millions to their Gods, as well as horribly mutilating and exploiting anyone who joins up with them.
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* The [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Yuuzhan Vong race]] in the Literature/NewJediOrder series goes about crossing the MEH wantonly. Aside from the killing off of many major characters, some of their things involve going against their word and destroying a planet's ecosystem despite losing a contest for its fate, intentionally attacking/destroying civilian targets in order to burden the New Republic with billions of displaced refugees, spreading a lethal disease among civilians, breeding a toxic animal specially designed to butcher Jedi, and butcher hundreds of Jedi, many young adults and teens, sacrifice millions to their Gods, as well as horribly mutilating and exploiting anyone who joins up with them. By the end of the four-year-long war, the Vong had sadistically and brutally murdered 365 **trillion** people, the bulk of whom were presumably civilians.
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* ''ComicBook/StarWarsAllegiance'': The action at Teardrop pushes the Empire over the horizon as far as LaRone and his companions are concerned. While Alderaan was concerning, reports and rumors about it were confused and it may not have been officially sanctioned. And while his orders were becoming steadily more questionable, LaRone had never been ordered to fire on unarmed civilians before. He shoots to miss.
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** In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E3ShadowOfMalevolence Shadow of]] ''[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E3ShadowOfMalevolence Malevolence]]''", General Grievous cheerfully shows us what a nice guy he isn't when he orders the ''Malevolence'' to target harmless, fleeing escape pods.
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*** In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E3ShadowOfMalevolence Shadow of]] ''[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E3ShadowOfMalevolence Malevolence]]''",General Grievous he cheerfully shows us what a nice guy he isn't when he orders the ''Malevolence'' to target harmless, fleeing escape pods.pods.
*** In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS4E19Massacre Massacre]]", Grievous outright commits [[FinalSolution genocide]] upon the Nightsisters of Dathomir, massacring all except for a handful without any reservations, and even targeting wounded or disarmed warriors.
*** In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E3ShadowOfMalevolence Shadow of]] ''[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E3ShadowOfMalevolence Malevolence]]''",
*** In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS4E19Massacre Massacre]]", Grievous outright commits [[FinalSolution genocide]] upon the Nightsisters of Dathomir, massacring all except for a handful without any reservations, and even targeting wounded or disarmed warriors.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTalesOfTheJedi'', it's shown that the moment [[TheParagonAlwaysRebels Count Dooku truly became Darth Tyranus]] was [[DiesDifferentlyInAdaptation his execution of Master Yaddle]].
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** Brendol crosses it when he bombards Parnassos and destroys any semblance of civilization still there and forcing Phasma to watch merely to show what happens to those that would dare to incovenience him.
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** Brendol crosses it when he bombards Parnassos and destroys any semblance of civilization still there and there, forcing Phasma to watch merely to show what happens to those that who would dare to incovenience inconvenience him.
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* ''ComicBook/StarWarsDarthVader'':
** Morit [[spoiler: pushing Aiolin into lava, after she saved him from being killed in their fight with Vader. Both of them were plotting against each other, but Morit showed in this act to be far more cutthroat.]]
** While the audience may disagree, Vader apparently felt Aphra crossed this line when she [[spoiler: 1.) blackmailed him after he explicitly warned her otherwise, and 2.) betrayed him to the EMPEROR of all people. By all appearances, he was initially going to honor her request for a quick death the first time around. The second (and last) time, she had expended any good will she'd had left with him.]]
** Morit [[spoiler: pushing Aiolin into lava, after she saved him from being killed in their fight with Vader. Both of them were plotting against each other, but Morit showed in this act to be far more cutthroat.]]
** While the audience may disagree, Vader apparently felt Aphra crossed this line when she [[spoiler: 1.) blackmailed him after he explicitly warned her otherwise, and 2.) betrayed him to the EMPEROR of all people. By all appearances, he was initially going to honor her request for a quick death the first time around. The second (and last) time, she had expended any good will she'd had left with him.]]
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**''ComicBook/StarWarsDarthVader'': Morit [[spoiler: pushing Aiolin into lava, after she saved him from being killed in their fight with Vader. Both of them were plotting against each other, but Morit showed in this act to be far more cutthroat.]]
** While the audience may disagree, Vader apparently felt Aphra crossed this line when she [[spoiler: 1.) blackmailed him after he explicitly warned her otherwise, and 2.) betrayed him to the EMPEROR of all people. By all appearances, he was initially going to honor her request for a quick death the first time around. The second (and last) time, she had expended any good will she'd had left with him.]]
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** While the audience may disagree, Vader apparently felt Aphra crossed this line when she [[spoiler: 1.) blackmailed him after he explicitly warned her otherwise, and 2.) betrayed him to the EMPEROR of all people. By all appearances, he was initially going to honor her request for a quick death the first time around. The second (and last) time, she had expended any good will she'd had left with him.
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* ''Film/RogueOne'': There are many moments when both Krennic and Tarkin commit irredeemable atrocities that crossed this line.
** In the final battle, [[spoiler:Tarkin uses the Death Star superlaser (albeit with a lower power setting, as it doesn't destroy a planet) to destroy the Empire's installation just to kill any remaining rebels and his political rival Krennic. While [[KickTheSonOfABitch Krennic got what he deserved]]]], Tarkin's actions end up killing hundreds, if not thousands, of loyal Imperial forces, showing how little regard he has for lives of the Empire's troops.
** Krennic cemented himself as an irredeemable bastard with his actions on Eadu. When informed that a spy has been leaking out data about the Death Star, Krennic holds Galen's engineering team at gunpoint and threatens to execute all of them unless any traitor confesses. When Galen reveals himself as TheMole and begs Krennic to spare the engineers, Krennic still executes them anyway just to spite Galen for his treachery.
** In the final battle, [[spoiler:Tarkin uses the Death Star superlaser (albeit with a lower power setting, as it doesn't destroy a planet) to destroy the Empire's installation just to kill any remaining rebels and his political rival Krennic. While [[KickTheSonOfABitch Krennic got what he deserved]]]], Tarkin's actions end up killing hundreds, if not thousands, of loyal Imperial forces, showing how little regard he has for lives of the Empire's troops.
** Krennic cemented himself as an irredeemable bastard with his actions on Eadu. When informed that a spy has been leaking out data about the Death Star, Krennic holds Galen's engineering team at gunpoint and threatens to execute all of them unless any traitor confesses. When Galen reveals himself as TheMole and begs Krennic to spare the engineers, Krennic still executes them anyway just to spite Galen for his treachery.
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**In the final battle, [[spoiler:Tarkin uses the Death Star superlaser (albeit with a lower power setting, as it doesn't destroy a planet) to destroy the Empire's installation just to kill any remaining rebels and his political rival Krennic. While [[KickTheSonOfABitch Krennic got what he deserved]]]], Tarkin's actions end up killing hundreds, if not thousands, of loyal Imperial forces, showing how little regard he has for lives of the Empire's troops.
**''Film/RogueOne'', Krennic cemented himself as an irredeemable bastard with his actions on Eadu. When informed that a spy has been leaking out data about the Death Star, Krennic holds Galen's engineering team at gunpoint and threatens to execute all of them unless any traitor confesses. When Galen reveals himself as TheMole and begs Krennic to spare the engineers, Krennic still executes them anyway just to spite Galen for his treachery.
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** Chantique mocking Issues 45 and 46 are this for Chantique. Before it was obvious that she wasn't exactly the most stable individual, but these issues showed just how depraved she really is. She mindrapes Zayne after Snout's death. by showing him 1000 years of pain and suffering, forces him to fight the slave he befriended, mocks him when the slave commits suicide, and she keeps him alive just so that he can drive Jarael away. And it works, with Zayne failing to realize that he was deceived until it was too late. And she does it all to get revenge on Jarael.
*** Also, the little surprise she prepared for hermanipulation.father Demagol. Just these words:
---> '''Demagol:''' "Where are the children? You said they were out here."
---> '''Jarael:'''"You didn't pay attention. I said they were IN the courtyard"
** [[TheManBehindTheMan Haazen]] crosses the horizon when we learn exactly why he warped the Covenant into [[KnightTemplar knights templar]], orchestrated the deaths of hundreds of people, and ruined Zayne's life- purely out of jealousy for Barrison Draay, who he already killed years ago. That StartOfDarkness made Haazen a pathetic, strangely tragic figure - but it also prevented anyone from sympathizing with the present Haazen again.
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---> '''Demagol:''' "Where are the children? You said they were out here."
---> '''Jarael:'''"You didn't pay attention. I said they were IN the courtyard"
** [[TheManBehindTheMan Haazen]] crosses the horizon when we learn exactly why he warped the Covenant into [[KnightTemplar knights templar]], orchestrated the deaths of hundreds of people, and ruined Zayne's life- purely out of jealousy for Barrison Draay, who he already killed years ago. That StartOfDarkness made Haazen a pathetic, strangely tragic figure - but it also prevented anyone from sympathizing with the present Haazen again.
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** Darth Krayt's immediate destruction of 1/10th of the Mon Calamari and slow genocide of the rest via forced labor proved that despite his nice rhetoric, he's as nasty as any other Sith when pushed.
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** [[BigBad Darth Krayt's immediate destruction Krayt]], in a fit of 1/10th temper after losing an important shipyard, orders ten percent of the Mon Calamari species executed on the spot and slow genocide of the rest via forced labor proved that despite his nice rhetoric, he's as nasty as any imprisoned in camps to be worked to death. Even the other Sith when pushed.thought it was a bit much. As for the reader...
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* [[Literature/LegacyOfTheForce Darth Caedus]], the [[FaceHeelTurn villainous]] [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Jacen Solo]], was apparently intended, to be morally grey at first, sliding down into worse and worse acts of NecessaryEvil until the Evil overwhelmed the Necessary. It didn't really turn out like that, considering what he did, including [[spoiler:fridging his own aunt, bombarding [[ThrowawayCountry throwaway planet]] Fondor after they had already surrendered, and lighting decidedly NON-throwaway planet Kashyyyk on fire from orbit.]] Fans lost all sympathy for him long before this was intended to happen.
* Interestingly, what his family considered to be his Moral Event Horizon was comparatively minor, [[spoiler: using a Nightsister Blood Trail to track Jaina to the Jedi's secret base.]]
* In-universe by Sith standards, his MEH would be [[spoiler: killing Mara Jade]]. It cements his commitment to the dark side via sacrificing something he loves and only after does he take his Sith name. Also it's a safe bet that any fans left by that point would surely desert.
* We have an in-universe example with Kyp Durron, a young Jedi who in the Literature/JediAcademyTrilogy gets influenced by an ancient Sith spirit to steal a superweapon out of the heart of the local gas giant and go on a spree with it, causing supernovas which kill the populations of various planets. He then flies to a training camp planet supporting about twenty-five million people where his brother had gone to train, was told by an ObstructiveBureaucrat that his brother had been killed during this training, and fired a nova-causing missile at the sun. Then it turned out that the bureaucrat had simply lied, and the brother was flown over to try and stop him, but it was too late; the only survivor in the system was Kyp, safe in his superweapon. Later the main characters found him and convinced him to stick the superweapon [[HurlItIntoTheSun into a black hole]], which almost resulted in his death; instead he lived, recovered, and [[KarmaHoudini went back to training at the Jedi Academy]]. Because the worlds he'd killed had been ''[[TheEmpire Imperial]]'' worlds, and he felt bad about killing his brother, and he'd supposedly been possessed by a 4,000 year old Dark Lord who made him do it, all was forgiven. Later books [[WhatTheHellHero called him on it]] and called it ''hard''. He'd been influenced, not possessed, or he would have actually killed Luke Skywalker instead of knocking him out. These had still been people who, as the FixFic type novel ''I, Jedi'' says, had had nothing in any reality to do with him. It became something [[NeverLiveItDown he could never live down]], sometimes making him TheAtoner, sometimes making him tired of being reminded of something he did as a teenager when he was in his forties, trying to be a respectable member of the Jedi Council. Some characters are never able to forgive him.
* Thrackan Sal-Solo crossed the horizon in the eyes of the peoples of the Corellian system, especially the Selonians, by holding his first cousins once removed hostage (as leverage on their mother, the Supreme Chancellor) and then trying to vape them. [[note]]The peoples of the Corellian system hold the MamaBear and PapaWolf in ''very'' high honor.[[/note]]
* The destruction of Alderaan is an in-universe Moral Event Horizon for a number of characters. It caused a ''lot'' of Imperials to defect to the Rebellion, which even before then was largely composed of people who had been Imperial citizens or soldiers at some point. They accepted this new influx, even knowing that some of these ex-Imperials had fought against and killed them. After that, though, ex-Imperial recruits were regarded with more suspicion, many Rebels wondering why they hadn't left the Empire earlier, like right after the news about Alderaan got out. Staying in the Empire's service became a subjective Moral Event Horizon; the longer someone had been with the Empire after Alderaan, the less moral they were seen to be.
** This is a plot point for how other characters treat [[AcePilot Baron Soontir Fel]] in the Literature/XWingSeries, who [[DefectorFromDecadence left]] almost a year after the Emperor died, and who had been the Empire's most dangerous pilot in that year. Wedge Antilles [[EasilyForgiven trusted him instantly]], and a pilot who had survived being shot down by him similarly welcomed him, but almost everyone else either was slow to warm up to him or outright refused to trust him. He killed too many Rebel pilots and didn't see what kind of monster he served until far too late.
** In ''Literature/StarWarsAllegiance'', we see that while the viewpoint stormtroopers were just as shocked by the reports as anyone else, official Imperial policies were confused, some saying that the Death Star had been hijacked by Rebels, some saying that the planet had been populated by Imperial sympathizers, some saying that Tarkin had gone power-mad. Sure, the Rebellion had its own claim, but the Rebellion was a terrorist organization, and while they were starting to think that [[EmpireWithADarkSecret the Empire had some deep flaw]], they didn't see any better alternative. Until their unit was sent to slaughter a village, and later one of them was threatened by an officer because [[NeverHurtAnInnocent he aimed to miss unarmed civilians]].
** In ''Literature/DeathStar'', we have a personal example in Tenn Graneet, head gunner on the titular superweapon, who for most of the novel has his character built up. He always thought the Death Star would never really be used on a living planet, just on really big ships and bases and the like. When it comes to it, [[EarthShatteringKaboom he follows orders]]. He realizes that as word gets around, even people serving with him on the Death Star treat him strangely, and knows that someday everyone will know, and everyone will loathe him as both the biggest mass murderer of his or possibly any time, and as someone who [[JustFollowingOrders always, always followed orders]]. Unusually, and unlike Tarkin, who gave the order, ''he'' sees his action as a Moral Event Horizon, thinking that [[BeingEvilSucks they would be right to hate him and one day kill him]]. The guilt doesn't let him sleep, and he knows he will be commanded to do worse -- if he doesn't he'll just be killed for disobedience and they will get another gunner and ''he'' will do it -- and, when they are in range of Yavin and his hand is at the final button, he desperately stalls while telling everyone to "Stand By," hoping that something would happen to stop him. [[ForegoneConclusion And it did]]. Poor bastard. If he ever had a chance at redeeming himself, this would be it--his successful attempt to stall the destruction of Yavin long enough to allow Luke Skywalker to blow up the Death Star would be a spectacular example of RedemptionEqualsDeath.
** In ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'', Daala initially seems fairly reasonable -- wrong, but reasonable -- about the Jedi and their role in the Galactic Alliance, especially considering the actions of Jacen Solo. She even shuts down her "Jedi Court" when the parents of one of the Jedi that went berserk revealed that its head judge was using the imprisoned Jedi as wall art. Then, in Allies, she attempts to force the Jedi to bend to her will and surrender all Jedi that have snapped (despite the Jedi Temple being far better equipped to hold a mad force user.) by laying siege to the Temple with a Mandalorian battle fleet, with orders to "do what is necessary." The Jedi respond by sending out the Grand Master's personal assistant, a young apprentice (on the grounds that nobody could possibly misconstrue it as an attack, but she has the standing in the Order to show good faith), wearing no armor, carrying no weapon, intending only to negotiate. The Mandalorian commander, after ascertaining that she is neither of the Jedi he was sent to "arrest," calmly informs her that "My orders make no provision for negotiation" and pulls out his sidearm and shoots her down without warning. He then proceeds to announce that if the mad Jedi are not turned over promptly, he will order his fleet to vaporize the temple, and that anyone who tries to leave will be slaughtered without warning. Daala's response, on seeing the LIVE BROADCAST TO THE GALAXY, in which troops operating under her direct orders shot a teenaged girl down in cold blood and then threatened to massacre thousands of people? "Good. Now they should take me seriously." These words make her administration look like a terrorist organization.
** Also, ''Ascension'' contains a rare example of a character crossing their ''own'' MoralEventHorizon. After several books of {{UST}}, Vestara Khai finally starts a relationship with Ben Skywalker and expresses interest in turning to the Light Side. Later in the book, she, Ben, and a MauveShirt are sent on a mission, during which an alien predator goes after Ben. Vestara saves him by feeding the MauveShirt to the monster. This causes her to label ''herself'' as irredeemable.
* The [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Yuuzhan Vong race]] in the Literature/NewJediOrder series goes about crossing the MEH wantonly. Aside from the killing off of many major characters, some of their things involve going against their word and destroying a planet's ecosystem despite losing a contest for its fate, intentionally attacking/destroying civilian targets in order to burden the New Republic with billions of displaced refugees, spreading a lethal disease among civilians, breeding a toxic animal specially designed to butcher Jedi, and butcher hundreds of Jedi, many young adults and teens, sacrifice millions to their Gods, as well as horribly mutilating and exploiting anyone who joins up with them.
* [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy Joruus C'baoth]] cements his status as an AxCrazy monster when he {{Mind Rape}}s General Covell into a mindless extension of his own will, and reveals his plan to do the same to the rest of the Empire.
* [[Literature/OutboundFlight The original C'baoth]] has a more mundane one- Force choking Thrawn after the latter disables his ship. Though things had been getting increasingly worse that moment is described as his true fall to the dark side.
* In Star Wars ''Literature/{{Revan}}'', it's quickly established that the [[HumanoidAbomination Sith Emperor]] was a really bad guy and he does a ''lot'' of horrible things. But the sole defining moment? [[spoiler: He '''kills [[UndyingLoyalty T3]]-[[BadassAdorable M4]] by vaporizing him'''. He does this right in front of Revan, making Revan watch as he murders one of his closest friends [[EvilIsPetty out of sheer spite]].]]
* [[Literature/DarthBane Darth Bane]] trilogy:
** Path of Destruction: A couple to choose from, depending on your point of view. Bane realizing he killed his father via the dark side strips him of the Force for a time. Killing rival apprentice Sirak is probably the most mundane example though it is presented as the moment Bane fully embraces the dark side. Killing an entire family including children and leaving the father for last just so he can feed on his suffering is probably the top contender. Though the thought bomb could also count- betraying his allies and dooming the souls of all the Sith and a hundred Jedi to thousands of years of unspeakable, unending agony.
** Rule of Two: As Bane's apprentice Zannah also gets her pick: using Sith sorcery to drive a woman completely insane so that she tears her own eyes out until her consciousness is completely shredded aside from a small part that lives on in a corner of her mind to be tortured by subconscious fears for the rest of her life. And all that for simply having romantic relations with a past lover (whom Zannah was merely using anyway). Or more likely, brutally slaughtering Caleb after the latter healed her master and using the aforementioned spell on her own cousin so he would take the rap with the Jedi, thereby concealing the existence of the Sith.
** Dynasty of Evil: Serra, Caleb's daughter haunted by memories of Bane and the grief of being recently widowed spirals down into darkness culminating in capturing Bane and using her father's knowledge to chemically imprison and torture him. Only realizing what she's done after her best friend is murdered she accepts her fate with her father's stoicism and is killed by the Huntress.
* [[Literature/StarWarsTheOldRepublic Darth Malgus]] despite his obvious commitment to the dark side, conflict and destruction crosses the Moral Event Horizon when he kills his lover Eleena for being his weakness. Ironically it's a Jedi avoiding that same pitfall that causes him to do this. Aryn Leneer, seeking revenge for the death of her Master plans to kill Eleena to hurt Malgus, but pulls back at the last second realizing what it means. This forces Malgus to acknowledge that his love can be used against him and in true Sith fashion kills the last good part of him.
* In the new Star Wars canon novel ''Literature/ANewDawn'', Count Vidian crosses it by throwing one of his subordinates in a vat of acid for questioning him. His attempt to destroy a planet's moon simply to take down a business rival only cements this crossing.
* [[Literature/LegacyOfTheForce Darth Caedus]], the [[FaceHeelTurn villainous]] [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Jacen Solo]], was apparently intended, to be morally grey at first, sliding down into worse and worse acts of NecessaryEvil until the Evil overwhelmed the Necessary. It didn't really turn out like that, considering what he did, including [[spoiler:fridging his own aunt, bombarding [[ThrowawayCountry throwaway planet]] Fondor after they had already surrendered, and lighting decidedly NON-throwaway planet Kashyyyk on fire from orbit.]] Fans lost all sympathy for him long before this was intended to happen.
* Interestingly, what his family considered to be his Moral Event Horizon was comparatively minor, [[spoiler: using a Nightsister Blood Trail to track Jaina to the Jedi's secret base.]]
* In-universe by Sith standards, his MEH would be [[spoiler: killing Mara Jade]]. It cements his commitment to the dark side via sacrificing something he loves and only after does he take his Sith name. Also it's a safe bet that any fans left by that point would surely desert.
* We have an in-universe example with Kyp Durron, a young Jedi who in the Literature/JediAcademyTrilogy gets influenced by an ancient Sith spirit to steal a superweapon out of the heart of the local gas giant and go on a spree with it, causing supernovas which kill the populations of various planets. He then flies to a training camp planet supporting about twenty-five million people where his brother had gone to train, was told by an ObstructiveBureaucrat that his brother had been killed during this training, and fired a nova-causing missile at the sun. Then it turned out that the bureaucrat had simply lied, and the brother was flown over to try and stop him, but it was too late; the only survivor in the system was Kyp, safe in his superweapon. Later the main characters found him and convinced him to stick the superweapon [[HurlItIntoTheSun into a black hole]], which almost resulted in his death; instead he lived, recovered, and [[KarmaHoudini went back to training at the Jedi Academy]]. Because the worlds he'd killed had been ''[[TheEmpire Imperial]]'' worlds, and he felt bad about killing his brother, and he'd supposedly been possessed by a 4,000 year old Dark Lord who made him do it, all was forgiven. Later books [[WhatTheHellHero called him on it]] and called it ''hard''. He'd been influenced, not possessed, or he would have actually killed Luke Skywalker instead of knocking him out. These had still been people who, as the FixFic type novel ''I, Jedi'' says, had had nothing in any reality to do with him. It became something [[NeverLiveItDown he could never live down]], sometimes making him TheAtoner, sometimes making him tired of being reminded of something he did as a teenager when he was in his forties, trying to be a respectable member of the Jedi Council. Some characters are never able to forgive him.
* Thrackan Sal-Solo crossed the horizon in the eyes of the peoples of the Corellian system, especially the Selonians, by holding his first cousins once removed hostage (as leverage on their mother, the Supreme Chancellor) and then trying to vape them. [[note]]The peoples of the Corellian system hold the MamaBear and PapaWolf in ''very'' high honor.[[/note]]
* The destruction of Alderaan is an in-universe Moral Event Horizon for a number of characters. It caused a ''lot'' of Imperials to defect to the Rebellion, which even before then was largely composed of people who had been Imperial citizens or soldiers at some point. They accepted this new influx, even knowing that some of these ex-Imperials had fought against and killed them. After that, though, ex-Imperial recruits were regarded with more suspicion, many Rebels wondering why they hadn't left the Empire earlier, like right after the news about Alderaan got out. Staying in the Empire's service became a subjective Moral Event Horizon; the longer someone had been with the Empire after Alderaan, the less moral they were seen to be.
** This is a plot point for how other characters treat [[AcePilot Baron Soontir Fel]] in the Literature/XWingSeries, who [[DefectorFromDecadence left]] almost a year after the Emperor died, and who had been the Empire's most dangerous pilot in that year. Wedge Antilles [[EasilyForgiven trusted him instantly]], and a pilot who had survived being shot down by him similarly welcomed him, but almost everyone else either was slow to warm up to him or outright refused to trust him. He killed too many Rebel pilots and didn't see what kind of monster he served until far too late.
** In ''Literature/StarWarsAllegiance'', we see that while the viewpoint stormtroopers were just as shocked by the reports as anyone else, official Imperial policies were confused, some saying that the Death Star had been hijacked by Rebels, some saying that the planet had been populated by Imperial sympathizers, some saying that Tarkin had gone power-mad. Sure, the Rebellion had its own claim, but the Rebellion was a terrorist organization, and while they were starting to think that [[EmpireWithADarkSecret the Empire had some deep flaw]], they didn't see any better alternative. Until their unit was sent to slaughter a village, and later one of them was threatened by an officer because [[NeverHurtAnInnocent he aimed to miss unarmed civilians]].
** In ''Literature/DeathStar'', we have a personal example in Tenn Graneet, head gunner on the titular superweapon, who for most of the novel has his character built up. He always thought the Death Star would never really be used on a living planet, just on really big ships and bases and the like. When it comes to it, [[EarthShatteringKaboom he follows orders]]. He realizes that as word gets around, even people serving with him on the Death Star treat him strangely, and knows that someday everyone will know, and everyone will loathe him as both the biggest mass murderer of his or possibly any time, and as someone who [[JustFollowingOrders always, always followed orders]]. Unusually, and unlike Tarkin, who gave the order, ''he'' sees his action as a Moral Event Horizon, thinking that [[BeingEvilSucks they would be right to hate him and one day kill him]]. The guilt doesn't let him sleep, and he knows he will be commanded to do worse -- if he doesn't he'll just be killed for disobedience and they will get another gunner and ''he'' will do it -- and, when they are in range of Yavin and his hand is at the final button, he desperately stalls while telling everyone to "Stand By," hoping that something would happen to stop him. [[ForegoneConclusion And it did]]. Poor bastard. If he ever had a chance at redeeming himself, this would be it--his successful attempt to stall the destruction of Yavin long enough to allow Luke Skywalker to blow up the Death Star would be a spectacular example of RedemptionEqualsDeath.
** In ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'', Daala initially seems fairly reasonable -- wrong, but reasonable -- about the Jedi and their role in the Galactic Alliance, especially considering the actions of Jacen Solo. She even shuts down her "Jedi Court" when the parents of one of the Jedi that went berserk revealed that its head judge was using the imprisoned Jedi as wall art. Then, in Allies, she attempts to force the Jedi to bend to her will and surrender all Jedi that have snapped (despite the Jedi Temple being far better equipped to hold a mad force user.) by laying siege to the Temple with a Mandalorian battle fleet, with orders to "do what is necessary." The Jedi respond by sending out the Grand Master's personal assistant, a young apprentice (on the grounds that nobody could possibly misconstrue it as an attack, but she has the standing in the Order to show good faith), wearing no armor, carrying no weapon, intending only to negotiate. The Mandalorian commander, after ascertaining that she is neither of the Jedi he was sent to "arrest," calmly informs her that "My orders make no provision for negotiation" and pulls out his sidearm and shoots her down without warning. He then proceeds to announce that if the mad Jedi are not turned over promptly, he will order his fleet to vaporize the temple, and that anyone who tries to leave will be slaughtered without warning. Daala's response, on seeing the LIVE BROADCAST TO THE GALAXY, in which troops operating under her direct orders shot a teenaged girl down in cold blood and then threatened to massacre thousands of people? "Good. Now they should take me seriously." These words make her administration look like a terrorist organization.
** Also, ''Ascension'' contains a rare example of a character crossing their ''own'' MoralEventHorizon. After several books of {{UST}}, Vestara Khai finally starts a relationship with Ben Skywalker and expresses interest in turning to the Light Side. Later in the book, she, Ben, and a MauveShirt are sent on a mission, during which an alien predator goes after Ben. Vestara saves him by feeding the MauveShirt to the monster. This causes her to label ''herself'' as irredeemable.
* The [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Yuuzhan Vong race]] in the Literature/NewJediOrder series goes about crossing the MEH wantonly. Aside from the killing off of many major characters, some of their things involve going against their word and destroying a planet's ecosystem despite losing a contest for its fate, intentionally attacking/destroying civilian targets in order to burden the New Republic with billions of displaced refugees, spreading a lethal disease among civilians, breeding a toxic animal specially designed to butcher Jedi, and butcher hundreds of Jedi, many young adults and teens, sacrifice millions to their Gods, as well as horribly mutilating and exploiting anyone who joins up with them.
* [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy Joruus C'baoth]] cements his status as an AxCrazy monster when he {{Mind Rape}}s General Covell into a mindless extension of his own will, and reveals his plan to do the same to the rest of the Empire.
* [[Literature/OutboundFlight The original C'baoth]] has a more mundane one- Force choking Thrawn after the latter disables his ship. Though things had been getting increasingly worse that moment is described as his true fall to the dark side.
* In Star Wars ''Literature/{{Revan}}'', it's quickly established that the [[HumanoidAbomination Sith Emperor]] was a really bad guy and he does a ''lot'' of horrible things. But the sole defining moment? [[spoiler: He '''kills [[UndyingLoyalty T3]]-[[BadassAdorable M4]] by vaporizing him'''. He does this right in front of Revan, making Revan watch as he murders one of his closest friends [[EvilIsPetty out of sheer spite]].]]
* [[Literature/DarthBane Darth Bane]] trilogy:
** Path of Destruction: A couple to choose from, depending on your point of view. Bane realizing he killed his father via the dark side strips him of the Force for a time. Killing rival apprentice Sirak is probably the most mundane example though it is presented as the moment Bane fully embraces the dark side. Killing an entire family including children and leaving the father for last just so he can feed on his suffering is probably the top contender. Though the thought bomb could also count- betraying his allies and dooming the souls of all the Sith and a hundred Jedi to thousands of years of unspeakable, unending agony.
** Rule of Two: As Bane's apprentice Zannah also gets her pick: using Sith sorcery to drive a woman completely insane so that she tears her own eyes out until her consciousness is completely shredded aside from a small part that lives on in a corner of her mind to be tortured by subconscious fears for the rest of her life. And all that for simply having romantic relations with a past lover (whom Zannah was merely using anyway). Or more likely, brutally slaughtering Caleb after the latter healed her master and using the aforementioned spell on her own cousin so he would take the rap with the Jedi, thereby concealing the existence of the Sith.
** Dynasty of Evil: Serra, Caleb's daughter haunted by memories of Bane and the grief of being recently widowed spirals down into darkness culminating in capturing Bane and using her father's knowledge to chemically imprison and torture him. Only realizing what she's done after her best friend is murdered she accepts her fate with her father's stoicism and is killed by the Huntress.
* [[Literature/StarWarsTheOldRepublic Darth Malgus]] despite his obvious commitment to the dark side, conflict and destruction crosses the Moral Event Horizon when he kills his lover Eleena for being his weakness. Ironically it's a Jedi avoiding that same pitfall that causes him to do this. Aryn Leneer, seeking revenge for the death of her Master plans to kill Eleena to hurt Malgus, but pulls back at the last second realizing what it means. This forces Malgus to acknowledge that his love can be used against him and in true Sith fashion kills the last good part of him.
* In the new Star Wars canon novel ''Literature/ANewDawn'', Count Vidian crosses it by throwing one of his subordinates in a vat of acid for questioning him. His attempt to destroy a planet's moon simply to take down a business rival only cements this crossing.
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* ''Radio/StarWarsRadioDramas'': Grand Moff Tarkin easily crosses this when he orders the destruction of Alderaan, resulting in many innocent people dying. Leia is forced to watch the destruction of her home planet before her very eyes, and (as the page quote illustrates) she even points out that this was the moment that Tarkin lost all humanity he may have had.
* ''ComicBook/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'':
** Chantique mocking Zayne after Snout's death. And her manipulation.
** Raana manipulating Shel into trying to kill Zayne. After that pretty much any sympathy the audience had went out the window.
* ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'': ''Ascension'' contains a rare example of a character crossing their ''own'' MoralEventHorizon. After several books of {{UST}}, Vestara Khai finally starts a relationship with Ben Skywalker and expresses interest in turning to the Light Side. Later in the book, she, Ben, and a MauveShirt are sent on a mission, during which an alien predator goes after Ben. Vestara saves him by feeding the MauveShirt to the monster. This causes her to label ''herself'' as irredeemable.
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* ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'': ''Ascension'' contains a rare example of a character crossing their ''own'' MoralEventHorizon. After several books of {{UST}}, Vestara Khai finally starts a relationship with Ben Skywalker and expresses interest in turning to the Light Side. Later in the book, she, Ben, and a MauveShirt are sent on a mission, during which an alien predator goes after Ben. Vestara saves him by feeding the MauveShirt to the monster. This causes her to label ''herself'' as irredeemable.
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* ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'': ''Ascension'' contains a rare example of a character crossing their ''own'' MoralEventHorizon. After several books of {{UST}}, Vestara Khai finally starts a relationship with Ben Skywalker and expresses interest in turning to the Light Side. Later in the book, she, Ben, and a MauveShirt are sent on a mission, during which an alien predator goes after Ben. Vestara saves him by feeding the MauveShirt to the monster. This causes her to label ''herself'' as irredeemable.
* ''Radio/StarWarsRadioDramas'': Grand Moff Tarkin easily crosses this when he orders the destruction of Alderaan, resulting in many innocent people dying. Leia is forced to watch the destruction of her home planet before her very eyes, and (as the page quote illustrates) she even points out that this was the moment that Tarkin lost all humanity he may have had.
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* ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'': ''Ascension'' contains a rare example of a character crossing their ''own'' MoralEventHorizon. After several books of {{UST}}, Vestara Khai finally starts a relationship with Ben Skywalker and expresses interest in turning to the Light Side. Later in the book, she, Ben, and a MauveShirt are sent on a mission, during which an alien predator goes after Ben. Vestara saves him by feeding the MauveShirt to the monster. This causes her to label ''herself'' as irredeemable.
* ''Radio/StarWarsRadioDramas'': Grand Moff Tarkin easily crosses this when he orders the destruction of Alderaan, resulting in many innocent people dying. Leia is forced to watch the destruction of her home planet before her very eyes, and (as the page quote illustrates) she even points out that this was the moment that Tarkin lost all humanity he may have had.
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** And before all Saul crosses it pre-game when he [[spoiler:bombarded Carth's home planet]]. He was [[spoiler:Carth's trusted mentor and friend]], and he made the decision to ''kill his family.''
** Malak uses it as an EstablishingCharacterMoment by ordering the wholesale orbital bombardment ofthis: [[spoiler:Good luck repenting Taris just because he's ''impatient'', killing millions, if not billions of people during just because it's taking too long to search for Bastila. Not only are we talking [[TheSociopath total sociopath]], but someone who is a textbook case of [[EvilIsPetty wasteful villainy]]. It says a lot that the bombardment fellow above voices an ''objection'' to the order.
** If Chuundar didn't cross it selling his political opponents into slavery to shore up his position as Chieftain, then he's crossing it by imprisoning his brother, Zaalbar. And if that isn't enough ofTaris, Malak.]]a line cross [[spoiler: ordering the party to go and kill their father]] completes a trifecta of "this guy is a dirtbag."
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* In ''Franchise/StarWars: VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'', right after you decide to follow [[KarmaMeter the Dark Side path]], the game makes it plain what an ultimately depraved monster you have chosen to become by allowing you to [[{{Brainwashed}} Force Persuade]] Zaalbar to kill Mission, his best friend, because she refuses to either join you or run away to save herself, and she's too nice to be brainwashed into going Sith herself. And Bastila ''compliments'' you for it. Mission is a 14-year-old orphan girl who by this point in the game has not only helped save your life at least twice but whom you've taken under your wing as a surrogate daughter, ''and who at this point in time is the only member of your party still believing that you can be turned back to the Light Side''. You get to hear her anguished cries of betrayal and disappointment as she dies.
** And before all of this: [[spoiler:Good luck repenting killing millions, if not billions of people during the bombardment of Taris, Malak.]]
* ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'' allows the players to do many horrible things to [=NPCs=], but killing one of the three Jedi masters you spend the game searching for is considered this. Towards the end of the game, the surviving masters will gather and confront you in one location. If a single Jedi master were killed, the rest will consider you BeyondRedemption and attack you, forcing you to kill the rest as well. In other words, killing one locks you into killing all of them, effectively putting you on the dark side path. [[spoiler:If you did not kill any of them, Kreia will still do it in your place.]]
* ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'': Emperor Valkorion and his BigScrewedUpFamily have crossed this in a nutshell.
** Valkorion treated his sons like dirt and mind-raped his daughter until one of his sons rebelled and murdered his twin just in time for their little sister to commit genocide. All so they would become psychotic, flawed heirs for someone to usurp in his name. When the player character learns of the second one, they can comment that this is a new low for a planet eater.
** Arcann '''glassed five planets'''. Because he "wanted someone, nobody in particular, to squeal about some secret, infantile organization that almost nobody in the galaxy knew about". [[spoiler:Even he doesn't think he can atone for all that he's done if he's "redeemed" and joins the Alliance.]]
** Vaylin mentally re-enslaved an entire species months after they gained free-willed sentience. And then ordered one of them to murder another as a test run because she was impatient. And then she murdered the technician who helped her with the mind shackles for good measure.
* In ''Franchise/StarWars: VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'', right after you decide to follow [[KarmaMeter the Dark Side path]], the game makes it plain what an ultimately depraved monster you have chosen to become by allowing you to [[{{Brainwashed}} Force Persuade]] Zaalbar to kill Mission, his best friend, because she refuses to either join you or run away to save herself, and she's too nice to be brainwashed into going Sith herself. And Bastila ''compliments'' you for it. Mission is a 14-year-old orphan girl who by this point in the game has not only helped save your life at least twice but whom you've taken under your wing as a surrogate daughter, ''and who at this point in time is the only member of your party still believing that you can be turned back to the Light Side''. You get to hear her anguished cries of betrayal and disappointment as she dies.
** And before all of this: [[spoiler:Good luck repenting killing millions, if not billions of people during the bombardment of Taris, Malak.]]
* ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'' allows the players to do many horrible things to [=NPCs=], but killing one of the three Jedi masters you spend the game searching for is considered this. Towards the end of the game, the surviving masters will gather and confront you in one location. If a single Jedi master were killed, the rest will consider you BeyondRedemption and attack you, forcing you to kill the rest as well. In other words, killing one locks you into killing all of them, effectively putting you on the dark side path. [[spoiler:If you did not kill any of them, Kreia will still do it in your place.]]
* ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'': Emperor Valkorion and his BigScrewedUpFamily have crossed this in a nutshell.
** Valkorion treated his sons like dirt and mind-raped his daughter until one of his sons rebelled and murdered his twin just in time for their little sister to commit genocide. All so they would become psychotic, flawed heirs for someone to usurp in his name. When the player character learns of the second one, they can comment that this is a new low for a planet eater.
** Arcann '''glassed five planets'''. Because he "wanted someone, nobody in particular, to squeal about some secret, infantile organization that almost nobody in the galaxy knew about". [[spoiler:Even he doesn't think he can atone for all that he's done if he's "redeemed" and joins the Alliance.]]
** Vaylin mentally re-enslaved an entire species months after they gained free-willed sentience. And then ordered one of them to murder another as a test run because she was impatient. And then she murdered the technician who helped her with the mind shackles for good measure.
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** In the final battle, [[spoiler:Tarkin uses the Death Startested superlaser (albeit with a lower power setting, as it doesn't destroy a planet) to destroy the Empire's installation just to kill any remaining rebels and his political rival Krennic. While [[KickTheSonOfABitch Krennic got what he deserved]]]], Tarkin's actions end up killing hundreds, if not thousands, of loyal Imperial forces, showing how little regard he has for lives of the Empire's troops.
** Krennic cemented himself as an irredeemable bastard with his actions onJedha City, ending Eadu. When informed that a spy has been leaking out data about the Death Star, Krennic holds Galen's engineering team at gunpoint and threatens to execute all life in of them unless any traitor confesses. When Galen reveals himself as TheMole and begs Krennic to spare the city and making the planet uninhabitable.engineers, Krennic still executes them anyway just to spite Galen for his treachery.
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* In ''Film/RogueOne'', Krennic crosses it when he orders the Death Star tested on Jedha City, ending all life in the city and making the planet uninhabitable.
* Perhaps one of the most famous crossings, Wilhuff Tarkin in ''Film/ANewHope'' crosses it when he [[EarthShatteringKaboom destroys Alderaan]] [[KickTheDog just to spite Leia]]. In-Universe, this event is seen as one for the Galactic Empire as a whole.
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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'':
** In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E3ShadowOfMalevolence Shadow of]] ''[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E3ShadowOfMalevolence Malevolence]]''", General Grievous cheerfully shows us what a nice guy he isn't when he orders the ''Malevolence'' to target harmless, fleeing escape pods.
** When it becomes clear that he's going to lose Ryloth in "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E21LibertyOnRyloth Liberty on Ryloth]]", Count Dooku orders a scorched-earth campaign against the planet, just to send the galaxy a message about "[[PyrrhicVictory the cost of a Republic victory]]". Wat Tambor also crosses it with that action, explicitly ordering the bombing of Twi'lek villages containing women and children, stating "the inhabited ones first."
** Cad Bane's first appearance has him shooting an unarmed hostage InTheBack, then trying to blow up the Senate chambers with the hostages inside, even after getting what he wanted. Then, during the Holocron arc, he makes it pretty clear that he isn't friendly through torturing a Jedi to death and kidnapping infants.
* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsResistance'': In "Rebuilding The Resistance", Commander Pyre orders the destruction of three shuttles containing unarmed recruits. Tam is not happy with this.
* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheBadBatch'':
** Vice Admiral Rampart crosses this when he carries out Tarkin's orders to [[spoiler:bombard Tipoca City, destroying all of the cloning technology and facilities there rather than allowing the Kaminoans to keep it, after stealing everything the Empire could use, including personnel, and leaving Crosshair to die in the process]]. It's unclear how many Kaminoans were killed, but given that the next episode reveals that [[spoiler: ''every'' facility and city on Kamino was destroyed]], this effectively makes Rampart responsible for carrying out a planet-wide OrbitalBombardment on an entire species.
** In his one and only appearance, Lieutenant Nolan, already a confirmed {{Jerkass}} who hates clones and prefers TK Stormtroopers, crosses over the line when he [[spoiler:spitefully lets the fatally injured Commander Mayday die from his injuries, even after Crosshair ''[[AintTooProudToBeg begged]]'' him to help. Crosshair then angrily and justifiably executes him.]]
[[AC:Other media]]
* ''ComicBook/StarWarsAllegiance'': The action at Teardrop pushes the Empire over the horizon as far as LaRone and his companions are concerned. While Alderaan was concerning, reports and rumors about it were confused and it may not have been officially sanctioned. And while his orders were becoming steadily more questionable, LaRone had never been ordered to fire on unarmed civilians before. He shoots to miss.
* ''Literature/StarWarsPhasma''
** Brendol crosses it when he bombards Parnassos and destroys any semblance of civilization still there and forcing Phasma to watch merely to show what happens to those that would dare to incovenience him.
** It is up to debate which moment may serve for Phasma considering the amount of stuff she pulls out: arranging her own clan's and family's death; killing off the Scyre and her own brother without regret; abandoning Siv, who was always loyal to her, in a barren wasteland; murdering Frey, her own niece, just to get rid of witnesses or murdering Brendol Hux, the man that saved her from Parnassos and granted her a place in the First Order.
* ''VideoGame/StarWarsSquadrons'': Compared to older ''TIE Fighter'' games that had you quarrel with pirates and imperial warlords, the Imperial part of the campaign conquers that horizon proudly. The campaign starts out with you hunting down survivors of Alderaan, with other pilots pointing out that those refugees are obviously guilty of ''something'' [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical because they hide among criminals]] from [[InsaneTrollLogic the Empire that's hunting them down.]] Later on, you get to carry out a diversionary attack [[spoiler: to draw enemy forces away from the Nadiri Dockyards by attacking Mon Calamari. The attack starts simple enough against some fuel depots, but then moves on to civilian freighters and finally a ''medical frigate''. Even Grey hesitates at this, but Kerrill assures him that it's only carrying supplies; no patients. Nevermind the actual medical ''staff'' or regular crew, or the fact she might be lying... fortunately, many civilian targets are optional objective and can be freely ignored, unless you care for HundredPercentCompletion.]]
!!''[[Franchise/StarWarsLegends Legends]]''
* ''ComicBook/StarWarsDarthVader'':
** Morit [[spoiler: pushing Aiolin into lava, after she saved him from being killed in their fight with Vader. Both of them were plotting against each other, but Morit showed in this act to be far more cutthroat.]]
** While the audience may disagree, Vader apparently felt Aphra crossed this line when she [[spoiler: 1.) blackmailed him after he explicitly warned her otherwise, and 2.) betrayed him to the EMPEROR of all people. By all appearances, he was initially going to honor her request for a quick death the first time around. The second (and last) time, she had expended any good will she'd had left with him.]]
* ''ComicBook/StarWarsLegacy'':
** Darth Krayt's immediate destruction of 1/10th of the Mon Calamari and slow genocide of the rest via forced labor proved that despite his nice rhetoric, he's as nasty as any other Sith when pushed.
** Vul Isen crosses it when he wipes out 80% of the population of Dac. Not to mention his poisoning of Da Soocha for harboring Mon Cal refugees.
** [[spoiler:Roan Fel may have very well crossed it. He decided to have Darth Maladi create the Alpha Red (actually Omega Red) bio-weapon so he can use it on Coruscant. In exchange, he has her released so she can try to kill Cade.]]
* ''ComicBook/StarWarsRepublic'': Sheyf Tinté [[spoiler: betrays Quinlan's parents to the Anzati and forces him to use his psychic powers to relive their deaths because she believes it will prevent the Jedi from taking him to Coruscant.]]
* ''Radio/StarWarsRadioDramas'': Grand Moff Tarkin easily crosses this when he orders the destruction of Alderaan, resulting in many innocent people dying. Leia is forced to watch the destruction of her home planet before her very eyes, and (as the page quote illustrates) she even points out that this was the moment that Tarkin lost all humanity he may have had.
* Chantique mocking Zayne after Snout's death. And her manipulation.
* Raana manipulating Shel into trying to kill Zayne. After that pretty much any sympathy the audience had went out the window.
* ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'': ''Ascension'' contains a rare example of a character crossing their ''own'' MoralEventHorizon. After several books of {{UST}}, Vestara Khai finally starts a relationship with Ben Skywalker and expresses interest in turning to the Light Side. Later in the book, she, Ben, and a MauveShirt are sent on a mission, during which an alien predator goes after Ben. Vestara saves him by feeding the MauveShirt to the monster. This causes her to label ''herself'' as irredeemable.
-->-- '''Leia''', [[Radio/StarWarsRadioDramas radio adaptation]] of ''A New Hope''
MoralEventHorizon in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' franchise.
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[[AC:Films]]
* In ''Film/RogueOne'', Krennic crosses it when he orders the Death Star tested on Jedha City, ending all life in the city and making the planet uninhabitable.
* Perhaps one of the most famous crossings, Wilhuff Tarkin in ''Film/ANewHope'' crosses it when he [[EarthShatteringKaboom destroys Alderaan]] [[KickTheDog just to spite Leia]]. In-Universe, this event is seen as one for the Galactic Empire as a whole.
[[AC:Animated series]]
* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'':
** In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E3ShadowOfMalevolence Shadow of]] ''[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E3ShadowOfMalevolence Malevolence]]''", General Grievous cheerfully shows us what a nice guy he isn't when he orders the ''Malevolence'' to target harmless, fleeing escape pods.
** When it becomes clear that he's going to lose Ryloth in "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS1E21LibertyOnRyloth Liberty on Ryloth]]", Count Dooku orders a scorched-earth campaign against the planet, just to send the galaxy a message about "[[PyrrhicVictory the cost of a Republic victory]]". Wat Tambor also crosses it with that action, explicitly ordering the bombing of Twi'lek villages containing women and children, stating "the inhabited ones first."
** Cad Bane's first appearance has him shooting an unarmed hostage InTheBack, then trying to blow up the Senate chambers with the hostages inside, even after getting what he wanted. Then, during the Holocron arc, he makes it pretty clear that he isn't friendly through torturing a Jedi to death and kidnapping infants.
* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsResistance'': In "Rebuilding The Resistance", Commander Pyre orders the destruction of three shuttles containing unarmed recruits. Tam is not happy with this.
* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheBadBatch'':
** Vice Admiral Rampart crosses this when he carries out Tarkin's orders to [[spoiler:bombard Tipoca City, destroying all of the cloning technology and facilities there rather than allowing the Kaminoans to keep it, after stealing everything the Empire could use, including personnel, and leaving Crosshair to die in the process]]. It's unclear how many Kaminoans were killed, but given that the next episode reveals that [[spoiler: ''every'' facility and city on Kamino was destroyed]], this effectively makes Rampart responsible for carrying out a planet-wide OrbitalBombardment on an entire species.
** In his one and only appearance, Lieutenant Nolan, already a confirmed {{Jerkass}} who hates clones and prefers TK Stormtroopers, crosses over the line when he [[spoiler:spitefully lets the fatally injured Commander Mayday die from his injuries, even after Crosshair ''[[AintTooProudToBeg begged]]'' him to help. Crosshair then angrily and justifiably executes him.]]
[[AC:Other media]]
* ''ComicBook/StarWarsAllegiance'': The action at Teardrop pushes the Empire over the horizon as far as LaRone and his companions are concerned. While Alderaan was concerning, reports and rumors about it were confused and it may not have been officially sanctioned. And while his orders were becoming steadily more questionable, LaRone had never been ordered to fire on unarmed civilians before. He shoots to miss.
* ''Literature/StarWarsPhasma''
** Brendol crosses it when he bombards Parnassos and destroys any semblance of civilization still there and forcing Phasma to watch merely to show what happens to those that would dare to incovenience him.
** It is up to debate which moment may serve for Phasma considering the amount of stuff she pulls out: arranging her own clan's and family's death; killing off the Scyre and her own brother without regret; abandoning Siv, who was always loyal to her, in a barren wasteland; murdering Frey, her own niece, just to get rid of witnesses or murdering Brendol Hux, the man that saved her from Parnassos and granted her a place in the First Order.
* ''VideoGame/StarWarsSquadrons'': Compared to older ''TIE Fighter'' games that had you quarrel with pirates and imperial warlords, the Imperial part of the campaign conquers that horizon proudly. The campaign starts out with you hunting down survivors of Alderaan, with other pilots pointing out that those refugees are obviously guilty of ''something'' [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical because they hide among criminals]] from [[InsaneTrollLogic the Empire that's hunting them down.]] Later on, you get to carry out a diversionary attack [[spoiler: to draw enemy forces away from the Nadiri Dockyards by attacking Mon Calamari. The attack starts simple enough against some fuel depots, but then moves on to civilian freighters and finally a ''medical frigate''. Even Grey hesitates at this, but Kerrill assures him that it's only carrying supplies; no patients. Nevermind the actual medical ''staff'' or regular crew, or the fact she might be lying... fortunately, many civilian targets are optional objective and can be freely ignored, unless you care for HundredPercentCompletion.]]
!!''[[Franchise/StarWarsLegends Legends]]''
* ''ComicBook/StarWarsDarthVader'':
** Morit [[spoiler: pushing Aiolin into lava, after she saved him from being killed in their fight with Vader. Both of them were plotting against each other, but Morit showed in this act to be far more cutthroat.]]
** While the audience may disagree, Vader apparently felt Aphra crossed this line when she [[spoiler: 1.) blackmailed him after he explicitly warned her otherwise, and 2.) betrayed him to the EMPEROR of all people. By all appearances, he was initially going to honor her request for a quick death the first time around. The second (and last) time, she had expended any good will she'd had left with him.]]
* ''ComicBook/StarWarsLegacy'':
** Darth Krayt's immediate destruction of 1/10th of the Mon Calamari and slow genocide of the rest via forced labor proved that despite his nice rhetoric, he's as nasty as any other Sith when pushed.
** Vul Isen crosses it when he wipes out 80% of the population of Dac. Not to mention his poisoning of Da Soocha for harboring Mon Cal refugees.
** [[spoiler:Roan Fel may have very well crossed it. He decided to have Darth Maladi create the Alpha Red (actually Omega Red) bio-weapon so he can use it on Coruscant. In exchange, he has her released so she can try to kill Cade.]]
* ''ComicBook/StarWarsRepublic'': Sheyf Tinté [[spoiler: betrays Quinlan's parents to the Anzati and forces him to use his psychic powers to relive their deaths because she believes it will prevent the Jedi from taking him to Coruscant.]]
* ''Radio/StarWarsRadioDramas'': Grand Moff Tarkin easily crosses this when he orders the destruction of Alderaan, resulting in many innocent people dying. Leia is forced to watch the destruction of her home planet before her very eyes, and (as the page quote illustrates) she even points out that this was the moment that Tarkin lost all humanity he may have had.
* Chantique mocking Zayne after Snout's death. And her manipulation.
* Raana manipulating Shel into trying to kill Zayne. After that pretty much any sympathy the audience had went out the window.
* ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'': ''Ascension'' contains a rare example of a character crossing their ''own'' MoralEventHorizon. After several books of {{UST}}, Vestara Khai finally starts a relationship with Ben Skywalker and expresses interest in turning to the Light Side. Later in the book, she, Ben, and a MauveShirt are sent on a mission, during which an alien predator goes after Ben. Vestara saves him by feeding the MauveShirt to the monster. This causes her to label ''herself'' as irredeemable.
