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* In ''Literature/TheBookOfEve'', [[SinisterMinister Brother Abramo]] imprisons and tortures sinners in an alleged attempt to save their souls. He and his Lambs roam the city, burning down the houses of heretics and coercing sinners into humiliating public penances.
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If he showed up in RealLife, any reasonable person would consider him a WindmillCrusader or worse. But this is not real life. An in-story audience may or may not know it, but the cosmology they use to justify their actions is true. WordOfGod says he is not deluded, and the threats he is facing are not windmills. Note, however, that being right about the cosmology of the setting doesn't automatically mean that they are doing the ''right thing'' from an external standpoint; just because demons are real doesn't automatically justify any actions taken to fight them. Most examples of this trope are therefore likely to be fairly controversial with the audience.
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If he showed up in RealLife, any reasonable person would consider him a WindmillCrusader or worse. But this is not real life. An in-story audience may or may not know it, but the cosmology they use he uses to justify their his actions is true. WordOfGod says he is not deluded, and the threats he is facing are not windmills. Note, however, that being right about the cosmology of the setting doesn't automatically mean that they are he is doing the ''right thing'' from an external standpoint; just because demons are real doesn't automatically justify any and all actions taken to fight them. Most examples of this trope are therefore likely to be fairly controversial with the audience.
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* In the ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality'' novel ''Wielding a Red Sword'', this is played with. Mars takes on the role in his climactic challenge to Satan: if he brings about TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt, the majority of souls will be on the good side of the spectrum and go to Heaven, and Satan will lose the War, which won't be the case if Satan's plot goes off properly and damns the world. [[spoiler: Satan backs down, and Mars doesn't go through with it.]]
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* ''Comicbook/{{Lucifer}}'' contains various subversions of this trope, including the angel Remiel from ''ComicBook/TheSandman''.
* [[ZigZaggingTrope ZigZagged]] in ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'': It turns out that the protagonist's horrible family WAS in fact doing the good Lord's work when they tortured him and murdered his father and all the other horrors they committed in order to force him to become a priest. And their actions would indeed have kept him safe from eternal damnation if he hadn't rebelled later. However, it also turns out that GodIsEvil -- and thus, saving souls for him actually isn't a moral thing to do.
* [[ZigZaggingTrope ZigZagged]] in ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'': It turns out that the protagonist's horrible family WAS in fact doing the good Lord's work when they tortured him and murdered his father and all the other horrors they committed in order to force him to become a priest. And their actions would indeed have kept him safe from eternal damnation if he hadn't rebelled later. However, it also turns out that GodIsEvil -- and thus, saving souls for him actually isn't a moral thing to do.
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* ''Comicbook/{{Lucifer}}'' ''Comicbook/{{Lucifer}}'': The series contains various subversions of this trope, including the angel Remiel from ''ComicBook/TheSandman''.
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*[[ZigZaggingTrope ZigZagged]] in ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'': It [[ZigZaggingTrope ZigZagged]], as it turns out that the protagonist's horrible family WAS in fact doing the good Lord's work when they tortured him and murdered his father and all the other horrors they committed in order to force him to become a priest. And their actions would indeed have kept him safe from eternal damnation if he hadn't rebelled later. However, it also turns out that GodIsEvil -- and thus, saving souls for him actually isn't a moral thing to do.
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* Done in Games Workshop's ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' (RecycledInSpace), where the humanity must be protected through Inquisition.
** But then again, in that universe, Chaos Gods were created by passion, and, well, zealotry ''is'' a passion...
*** Perhaps the Imperium is going to be destroyed by the birth of the Chaos God of zealotry, and then the Tau will take over...
*** The Tau are ScaryDogmaticAliens who are made physically ill by the thought of not doing the ''right'' thing. That is, what they ''think'' is the right thing. Which is to say, what their ruling caste ''[[MindControl makes them think]]'' is the right thing. And that "right thing" is [[RedScare Space Communism]] (They may be on the right track, however, since their atheism [[GodNeedsPrayerBadly just might starve the Chaos Gods to death]]).
*** They aren't. The Emperor tried atheism, and it didn't work.
** But then again, in that universe, Chaos Gods were created by passion, and, well, zealotry ''is'' a passion...
*** Perhaps the Imperium is going to be destroyed by the birth of the Chaos God of zealotry, and then the Tau will take over...
*** The Tau are ScaryDogmaticAliens who are made physically ill by the thought of not doing the ''right'' thing. That is, what they ''think'' is the right thing. Which is to say, what their ruling caste ''[[MindControl makes them think]]'' is the right thing. And that "right thing" is [[RedScare Space Communism]] (They may be on the right track, however, since their atheism [[GodNeedsPrayerBadly just might starve the Chaos Gods to death]]).
*** They aren't. The Emperor tried atheism, and it didn't work.
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* Done in Games Workshop's ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' (RecycledInSpace), where the humanity must be protected through Inquisition.
** But then again, in that universe, Chaos Gods were created by passion, and, well, zealotry ''is'' a passion...
*** Perhaps theInquisition. The Imperium of Man is going the most brutal and totalitarian regime imaginable, and it indoctrinates its people to be destroyed by blindly loyal to it, no matter how hard their toil, how misplaced their loyalty or how misused they are. Because failure to present a united force in the birth galaxy will inevitably lead to the extinction of the Chaos God of zealotry, and then human species at the Tau will take over...
*** The Tau are ScaryDogmaticAliens who are made physically ill by the thoughthands of not doing the ''right'' thing. That is, what they ''think'' is the right thing. Which is to say, what their ruling caste ''[[MindControl makes them think]]'' is the right thing. And that "right thing" is [[RedScare Space Communism]] (They may be on the right track, however, since their atheism [[GodNeedsPrayerBadly just might starve the Chaos Gods to death]]).
*** They aren't. The Emperor tried atheism, and it didn't work.myriad enemies attacking from all sides.
** But then again, in that universe, Chaos Gods were created by passion, and, well, zealotry ''is'' a passion...
*** Perhaps the
*** The Tau are ScaryDogmaticAliens who are made physically ill by the thought
*** They aren't. The Emperor tried atheism, and it didn't work.
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* In the ''Literature/{{Mahabharata}}'', King Shantanu gets to marry the beautiful Ganga, the goddess of the Ganges river, on the condition that he never question anything she does. She uses this to drown every baby she gives birth too; when he finally begs her to stop with the eighth baby, she explains that they are reincarnated sinners who get to clear their ''karma'' this way, and now that he broke her rule she has to leave him.
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* In the ''Literature/{{Mahabharata}}'', King Shantanu gets to marry the beautiful Ganga, the goddess of the Ganges river, on the condition that he never question anything she does. She uses this to drown every baby she gives birth too; to; when he finally begs her to stop with the eighth baby, she explains that they are reincarnated sinners who get to clear their ''karma'' this way, and now that he broke her rule she has to leave him.
