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** Though in some cruel irony, [[spoiler:his chastity was part of the reason ''why'' Lord Summerisle chose him to be sacrificed. If he hadn't resisted Willow's seductions earlier in the film, he might have escaped his fate]].

** Or is so at least in the various adaptations. If not, Jonathan's refusal to describe his [[TakeOurWordForIt presumably horrific]] experiences to his friends and wife-to-be suddenly makes much more sense.
** As far as the original ''Dracula'' goes, someone commented that it made being bitten by a vampire sound equivalent to having sex ''without'' actually having sex. So much simpler and less icky, yet equally erotic.

** But one should weigh against this such verses as "There are eunuchs who have made of themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake" (Matthew 19:12), "It is good for man not to touch the woman, nevertheless to avoid fornication, let each man have his own wife and each woman her own husband." (1 Corinthians 7:1-2) This makes it sound as if sex within marriage is a third best for those who haven't the guts to either be [[CelibateHero celibate]] or cut their own tackle off. Furthermore the 144,000 heroes in Revelations who have God's seal on their foreheads and are "the first fruits of the earth" alone of all the world's people can learn God's holiest song are "They which are not defiled with women, for they are virgins". Not a sex-positive statement, really.
** But one should interpret such statements in light of the context of their times. Eunuchs, for example, would be a sort of verbal shorthand for someone important and powerful, since in those days that's what eunuchs generally were.
*** In his parody of apocalyptic prophecy, ''Apocalypse Wow!'', James Finn Garner helpfully comments that Jesus' Virgin Army are [[AManIsNotAVirgin probably a lot tougher than they sound]]
*** In the webcomic ''Apokomon'' (an apocalypse done in Pokemon style), a really overbearing and obnoxious Christian who would probably find it hard to get any kind of date at all, is shown gloating, "Who's laughing now?" when he's chosen to be one of the 144,000.
* [[TheGovernment The]] [[NineteenEightyFour Party]] preaches that sex is like a minor and disgusting operation. Justified in that they are trying to corrupt the sex drive.

** Of course, others interpret it as Susan becoming vapid and shallow non-believer, and this is what banned her, not her interest in boys. Needless to say, YourMileageMayVary.
*** Also the fact that she's not dead helps too.

** Only in the early seasons? Buffy rarely got any ''without'' it going bad or indicating massive depression.
** What's weird is that he expressly says in interviews and the DVD commentaries that he created the character Buffy to subvert this (well, the trope of the blonde girl always being killed off in horror films, but he considers the death = punishment for having sex is a part of that trope).
** While Buffy might have had some trouble with this trope, just look at Willow and Oz. Yes they broke up, but there was no connection between them having sex and their breakup. Also look at the end of Season 7 with Willow/Kennedy and Faith/Robin.

** Later seasons seem to disprove this. For example, Cordy falls back on sex is dangerous when Groo came to our dimension, but quickly decided that she would find a way to "Com-shuck" with him and Angel supports her.
** But then, this is JossWhedon we're talking about. He ''lives'' to torture his characters. Sex is just a handy excuse. And it's not really evil for Angel - just so good that if he has any, he'll risk experiencing true happiness and so lose his soul.

** As of the ending of "Flesh and Stone", it has most definitely [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar gone out the window.]]

* According to one {{urban legend}}, "{{Lie back and think of England}}" was an instruction given to brides or women in general in the Victorian Era regarding how to cope with the sexual demands of their husbands. Childbearing was considered a patriotic duty but at the same time women were not supposed to enjoy sexual intercourse and new brides in particular would even have been ignorant of the facts about sex. One version of this legend has it that [[QueenVicky Queen Victoria]] gave this instruction to her daughter on her wedding night.
** Bit silly considering Victoria was known to enjoy sex with [[KissingCousins Prince Albert]]. She hated being pregnant, though (because it meant less sex). She supposedly asked her doctors for ways she could prevent pregnancy, but they were less than helpful.

** This would be clever if it didn't overlook the exact point of abstinence, which is that extra-marital sex is degrading on account that it reduces the body and the relationship to sensual pleasure without the promise of love; and also the vast amount of sociological studies which have shown that couples are more significantly more sexually pleased if virgins prior to their marriage. But go on believing the strawman if you would like.
*** Would you kindly link to one example of this "vast amount"? A quick googling turns up exactly nothing.
*** Actually, sociology merely states that a strict enforcement of pre-marital abstinence simply results in marriages happening at a younger age: When you can't drink the milk without buying the cow, buying the cow becomes a priority.

* ''FullMetalPanic''. Sousuke is a ChasteHero who is [[InnocenceVirginOnStupidity obviously a virgin]] and doesn't understand anything about sex. And then to contrast, there are the villains from Amalgam who have a ''huge'' array of [[NightmareFetishist weird kinks and depraved tendencies]]. [[StalkerWithACrush Gauron]], a [[InterplayOfSexAndViolence sadomasochistic]], DepravedBisexual [[{{Shotacon}} pedophile]] and necrophiliac who displays most of these kinks towards [[FoeYay Sousuke]]. Gates, AxCrazy {{Lolicon}} rapist who masturbates to animal nature videos (and is very likely a necrophiliac as well, though not as explicitly stated). And the {{Twincest}}y CreepyTwins Xia Yu Fan and Xia Yu Lan, who most likely [[WifeHusbandry had something going on with Gauron]] and are shown to be rather promiscuous (with them seducing the AS repairmen in Amalgam). Even the villainous female scientist who only had a small part in the beginning has depraved kinks. In the novels, she's shown to [[TooKinkyToTorture enjoy Gauron strangling her as much as he does]]. He even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] it by mocking her with amusement. To go further, even [[ThePaolo Leonard]] is not exempt from this - in the novels, when he's first mentioned, he's shown to be a rather loose playboy that sleeps around. Over the phone, he's heard to have had sex with a woman with a high nasal voice.

** This would be clever if it didn't overlook the exact point of abstinence, which is that extra-marital sex is degrading on account that it reduces the body and the relationship to sensual pleasure without the promise of love. But go on believing the strawman if you would like.

** In the Bible, who's evil is God, not sex.

** In the Bible, whose is is God, not sex.

* To qualify for inclusion in the Catholic Church's ''Lives of the Saints'', a female pretty much has to die hideously while still a virgin. Apart from Joan of Arc and a few other demonstrably real historical figures, they pretty much die hideously for insisting on remaining virgins in a long series of variations on basically the same story. Male saints, on the other hand, mostly die for witnessing to the Word and their virginity is [[DoubleStandard rarely the issue]].

* Played straight in ''TheWickerMan'' (the original, no version), in that the straight-laced Christian officer is shocked at the depraved sex and immorality surrounding him on the island, believing that they were evil heathens [[spoiler: - and he was proven right.]]
** Though in some cruel irony, [[spoiler:his chastity was part of the reason ''why'' Lord Summerisle chose him to be sacrificed. If he hadn't resisited Willow's seductions earlier in the film, he might have escaped his fate]].

** Look, this is Joss Whedon we're talking about, okay? He ''lives'' to torture his characters. Sex is just a handy excuse. And it's not really evil for Angel - just so good that if he has any, he'll risk experiencing true happiness and so lose his soul.

* The producers of ''DoctorWho'' went to great lengths during its original run to [[NoHuggingNoKissing eliminate any suggestions of sexual activity]] by any of the TARDIS travelers: the Doctor's first companion, Susan, was not originally intended to be related to him but was then written as his granddaughter for fear of UnfortunateImplications, and when the Fifth Doctor traveled with two female companions and one male, the directors expressly forbid any unnecessary physical contact with the female ones, to avoid the impression of 'hanky panky' in the TARDIS. This may or may not have gone out the window with the revived series.
** As of the ending of Flesh and Stone, it has most definitely [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar gone out the window.]]

** Marian is eventually murdered by Guy in death scene that is deliberately filled with sexual symbolism, and which creator Dominic Mingella calls "the consummation of Guy and Marian." After Marian's death, Robin finds himself in a LoveTriangle with [[BettyAndVeronica Isabella and Kate]], who embody the Madonna/Whore stereotype. Isabella sucks on strawberries, carries money in her garter, wears seductive red dresses, and has escaped an abusive marriage. Kate is a peasant virgin with a crush on Robin who instinctively distrusts Isabella. Naturally, Isabella turns out to be evil, revealed after she tries and fails to lure Robin away from his calling as a hero to the people. She eventually murders him. Lesson: if you're sexually attracted to someone, ''they will kill you.''

* ''BaldursGate II'' allows you to romance party members. Sex with them has an even split on negative consequences. The final dialogue for Jaheira's takes place between you and her the morning after, and the only one where coupling appears before the end of the relationship at all is with Viconia — an evil character. Meanwhile, if you sleep with Aerie, it breaks the romance. The expansion allows [[GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex (literally) Good People To Have Good Sex]], plus you can convert Viconia from TheDarkSide and impregnate Aerie.

* Surprisingly, this seems to be the moral of ''SexyLosers'', though it's a bit more complex than most instances of this trope. The characters who engage in sex aren't ([[DepravedBisexual usually]]) evil at heart, but as they become obsessed with getting more and more sex, they become less and less interested in who they're having sex with, treating others only as tools (or more accurately, blowup dolls.) In one case, it's been openly stated that a character will [[DyingAlone die alone and unloved]] unless he can learn how to actually love people and not just lust after them.

* The ''SouthPark'' episode "Good Times with Weapons" left Butters with a shuriken stuck in his eye, but none of the adults (except arguably Butters' parents) cared—they were more concerned with Cartman's naked walk across the stage at an auction that most of the town was watching. Stan hit the nail on the head: "Parents don't give a crap about violence when there's sex stuff to worry about."

* During the "Hot Coffee" scandal surrounding ''GrandTheftAuto: San Andreas'', MoralGuardians were more concerned with the character having consensual sex with his girlfriend than they were having the main character stealing and killing.

** The real reason was that it had a lesbain scene with an [[DiscountLesbians Alien]]. Even though that is technically impossible because they are monogendered the media doesnt care it looks like a woman and can do it with both kind of proves how big idiots these people were.

* According to one urban legend, "lie back and think of England" was an instruction given to brides or women in general in the Victorian Era regarding how to cope with the sexual demands of their husbands. Childbearing was considered a patriotic duty but at the same time women were not supposed to enjoy sexual intercourse and new brides in particular would even have been ignorant of the facts about sex. One version of this legend has it that [[QueenVicky Queen Victoria]] gave this instruction to her daughter on her wedding night.

In most media, there is a prevalent fear of sex. MoralGuardians have always disapproved of sex more than violence (the Hays Code famously outlawed anything that even remotely implied sex, whereas hangings and executions could be shown "within good taste"), for some reason.

Of course, in the past there was a reason for this trope. Prior to paternity tests, the only way a man could be (reasonably) sure he was the father of a certain child was to ensure her chastity; if she slept around before marriage, she'd do the same after. And the only way a woman could be (reasonably) sure that the father would stick around to raise the child would be if they were married.

A DiscreditedTrope, but it still shows up in UnfortunateImplications. See "GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex" for what's effectively its inversion.

** But one should weigh against this such verses as "There are eunuchs who have made of themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake" (Matthew 19 v 12), "It is good for man not to touch the woman, nevertheless to avoid fornication, let each man have his own wife and each woman her own husband." (1 Corinthians 7 v 1-2) This makes it sound as if sex within marriage is a third best for those who haven't the guts to either be [[CelibateHero celibate]] or cut their own tackle off. Furthermore the 144,000 heroes in Revalation who have God's seal on their foreheads and are "the first fruits of the earth"alone of all the world's people can learn God's holiest song are "They which are not defiled with women, for they are virgins". Not a sex-positive statement, really.

* To qualify for inclusion in the Catholic Vhurch's ''Lives of the Saints'', a female pretty much has to die hideously while still a virgin. Apart from Joan of Arc and a few other demonstrably real historical figures, they pretty much die hideously for insisting on remaining virgins in a long series of variations on basically the same story. Male saints, on the other hand, mostly die for witnessing to the Word and their virginity is [[DoubleStandard rarely the issue]].

** Marian is eventually murdered by Guy in death scene that is deliberately filled with sexual symbolism, and which creator Dominic Mingella calls "the consummation of Guy and Marian." After Marian's death, Robin finds himself in a LoveTriangle with [[BettyAndVeronica Isabella and Kate]], who embody the Madonna/Whore stereotype. Isabella sucks on strawberries, carries money in her garter, wears seductive red dresses, and has escaped an abusive marriage. Kate is a peasant virgin with a crush on Robin who instinctively distrusts Isabella. Naturally, Isabella turns out to be evil, and after she tries and fails to lure Robin away from his calling as a hero to the people, he turns to Kate instead, but is eventually murdered by Isabella.